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What went wrong?
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Should've gotten Draco Meteor.
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>>32915745
Grass/Dragon is a horrible typing
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>>32915753
should've evolved Luvdisc into Alomomola
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>>32915745
it has a bizarre ability that isn't necessarily good
Lightning Rod I guess makes thematic sense but it has a 4x resistance to Electric so it's not like it really needed it. It would've been better off if they retconned it to whatever Drampa's ability is called or something, its name escapes me atm
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immunity ability that needs to be declared before it's usable so nobody will fall for it
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>>32915763
>what is switching

Also the ability you're thinking of is Berserk
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>>32915745
Lose to Ash-Greninja.
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>>32915745
Is Special.
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>>32915775
Go back to 2006, gyaravire fag
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>>32915745
No Electrify
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>>32915745
shit special movepool
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>>32915763
>Berserk with paper thin defenses and shit defensive type
What the fuck are you smoking?

Grass type + Lightning Rod makes it immune to powders and twave, so it can't be crippled except with niche shit like Glare. Its problem is it lacks offense, coverage, and can't pivot effectively. It also couldn't boost its offense reliably before Work Up in SM, but the jury is still out on that.
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remove the +10 points in defense and put them into attack

that way its:
70/120/65/145/85/145

and give it tehcnician

>90 bp:
>bullet seed
>double kick
>dual chop
>rock tomb
>bulldoze
>brutal swing
>aerial ace

>hidden power
>dragonbreath
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>>32915790
>>32915823
this shit
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>>32915753
This! when the strongest special dragon attack you can get is dragon pulse something is wrong
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>>32915839
Technician doesn't fit thematically. We've been over this a thousand times.
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I'm ok with how it turned out. It's not great, it'll never tear OU a new asshole, but it's usable. That's all I really wanted.
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>>32915856
who is we
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>>32915856
who fucking cares

>>32915854
>ampharos
>charizard
>salazzle
>clawitzer
>blastoise
>milotic
>lapras
>archeops
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>>32915856
Change the name into 'Christmas Tree Up My Ass" and now it fits thematically.
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>>32915876
>who fucking cares
Gamefreak, you fucking idiot.
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>>32915756
Gotta finish the set of dragons 4x weak to ice.
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>>32915745
Grovyle evolved and became one of the ugliest looking fuckers there was till the newer gens went full retard
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>>32915824
>using work up on literally anything
>accusing someone else of smoking

I bet you use Howl Arcanine
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>>32915876
Think that anon meant strongest dragon STAB and out of everything you listed only Ampharos uses dragon pulse which is actually worst than mega Sceptile so no clue where you're going
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>>32915900
Yeah I guess Dragon Dance sucks because it's only +1 offense.
>muh speed
>implying it doesn't already outspeed everything
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>>32915745
>Giga Drain
>Dragon Pulse
That's basically all it's got going for it. It got the short end of the stick for a primarily Special Attack oriented Mega when it comes to it's available moves.

Physical Sceptile can work, but it's just not that impressive as a Mega.
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>>32915856
Pokémon with Technician
>cat
>mime
>mantis with claws
>artist dog
>capoeira dancer
>kangaroo mushroom
>cricket
>hand tail monkey
>masked anthro rose
>chinchilla
>fighting spirit
What's the cohesive theme exactly?
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>>32915960
They all practice very technical crafts.
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>>32915915
>Move that embiggens 2 good stats is as bad as move that embiggens only one good stat

really makes you think

>>32915745
because it's mixed
Mixed pokemon haven't been good since like Gen 4
The only mixed pokemon we see today are shit like a special pokemon using a niche move like U-turn
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>>32915960
Things that move with extreme precision and tactile skill. "anthro rose" is a dancer, "chinchilla" is a groomer, monkey uses four hands to climb, artist, mime, musician cricket, all things that require tactile skill. Any fighting type by default works with Technician since technique is what defines the type.

Nothing about sceptile fits.
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>>32915981
Stop saying embiggen, you sound like a retard even if it's a real word.

The point is +1 offense makes a big difference. The speed is redundant. Also, mixed sceptile with earthquake was a thing even last gen, and with work up it can actually KO tranny.
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>>32915988
>t. Gamefreak apologist
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>>32916003
>t. butthurt faggot upset that his fanfiction got BTFO
Maybe learn something about the game you're discussing first.
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Lightningrod is more a thing you use for a switch-in, having to mega evolve first kind of throws off the usefulness.
I suppose you could use double battle hijinks?
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>>32915999
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>>32916027
>I AM SILLY
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>>32916030
who are you quoting?
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>>32916036
you
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>>32915999
What the fuck are you even on about? Where in a Sceptile set do you have room to even run Work Up, first of all? A +1 attack boost is shit. I don't know if you know this, but it's exactly half as effective as a +2 attack boost but it has the same cost: one of your precious movepool slots.

Why would you ever fucking do that? You know off the bat that you need both your STABs and then you're going to need moves to hit the Steel-types that you can't reach with them. If you pick HP Fire then Heatran and Toxapex both force you out, and if you pick EQ then you can't do anything to Bulu, Tangrowth, or Skarmory. So what then? You already wasted a slot for Work Up so now you have an even shittier version of your shitty Mega that you're running for whatever shitty reason. I guess you can justify Work Up since it boosts EQ's damage but it's only really relevant against Heatran, who is OHKOed outright after SR anyway

>+1 0 Atk Sceptile-Mega Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 192+ Def Toxapex: 130-154 (42.7 - 50.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery


Also, in what dimension is more speed redundant? It's true that Sceptile has no way to boost its speed since off the top of my head it doesn't get DD, but that doesn't mean speed is excessive. Anything at base 81 will outrun it at +1. That means Gyarados, M-Sharpedo, Lele and tons of other Scarfers I don't care to list.

Also embiggen is a perfectly cromulent word
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>>32915745
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>>32916014
Mega Scep is utter trash in doubles. Too frail.
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>>32916115
>sceptile must be 4 attacks to 2-3HKO more targets as opposed to 1HKOing fewer targets
What the fuck is Sceptile going to do against Toxapex in the first place? How is that relevant? Nothing is going to cover every opponent unless it's named Greninja.

Remind me what move gives it +2 SpA? A +1 boost on 145 offense makes a difference. In fact
>+1 252 SpA Sceptile-Mega Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 64 SpD Toxapex: 159-187 (52.3 - 61.5%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
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>>32915753
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>>32915745
x4 ice weakness on something you want to switch into the pokemon that tend to carry hp ice the most.
It does fuck with rotom-w and mow though
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>>32916149
Is that a jojo reference?
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>>32915763
>Lightning Rod I guess makes thematic sense
It does? How so?
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>>32916935
Trees are tall and get struck by lightning
that's all there is to it
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>>32916027
It's a perfectly cromulent word. Look it up in the dictionary.
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>>32916972
...that's it? Still doesn't make much sense.
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>>32916988
>Cubone has a drill
>Rhydon has a horn
>these somehow make more sense than a natural lightning attractor, even knowing that Sceptiles whole gimmick is that it grows trees from its ass instantaneously

really makes you think
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>>32917010
>Cubone has a drill
A bone, you mean.
Either way, I don't know where you saw me saying that. I don't think Lightning Rod fits those Pokemon either. I didn't mention them because the topic is Mega-Sceptile, not Lightning Rod.
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>>32915745
Grass/Dragon is one of the worst typings in the game

No Draco Meteor
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>>32915876
>clawitzer
>blastoise
Mega Launcher grants pseudo STAB on D-Pulse. To bad Dragon coverage is inferior to Ice Beam though.
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>>32915960
Holy shit!! Is this a motherfucking Jojo reference???
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>>32915745
Switch both of its attacking stats around and add +10 to both. Now you have a passable mixed attacker.
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>>32915745

At some point, having a stupid high speed stat becomes useless. At 110 base speed, you will outspeed just about everything else in OU that isn't a mega or using a scarf. Not only does its speed do absolutely nothing for it (except make it a somewhat decent revenge killer), but it's offensive stats are comparable to that of other megas, while having completely shitty defensive stats. If they wanted to make these super fast, low bulk mega mons (Beedrill/Sceptile) work, they should've given them much higher offensive stats. This goes without even mentioning the shitty movepool.
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>>32916027
>not a pic with embiggen as a wall of text
you even try?
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>>32915745
>no draco meteor
>ability that make it immune to electric, even when its 1/4x resistant
>no flamethrower and/or earth power
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