/hdt/ Highbrow Discussion Thread

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I had an idea of redesigning how Pokémon battles work, for sundry reasons.
I made this to illustrate how to think about Pokémon battles, while redesigning the way that they work.
"Abilities" does not mean what it normally does here.

I want to impregnate Latias

>>32900559
Hahaha. You missed a period.

>>32900582
That's a puntuational error, not a grammatical one.

What does Lurantis smell like?

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>>32900582
This is a pun.

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>>32900609
Human languages, sadly enough, lack the finesse to describe smells properly. This is because scent is actually the most complex sense.
Humans can actually discern 1 trillion different smells.
Septimus Piesse, a French perfumer, made many discoveries related to odor.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16378/16378-h/16378-h.htm
Piesse actually invented a musical instrument for releasing Odors, and he showed how some smells go well together.

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>>32900609
>>32900695
This is how Piesse's Perfumery Organ looks.

I dont like landorus's hairdo

>>32900604
It's spelled "punctuational".
I looked for information and found that the definition of Grammar is not consistent.
You make an interesting point.

How are pokemon eggs made?

>>32900784
Thank you.

>>32900742
I don't like it either. It offends my sensibilities.
But I don't like any of the genies, so there is no surprise.

>>32900794
It might just be game mechanics.That's another way of saying "Game Freak introduced something illogical or preposterous (all Pokémon lay eggs) because it made for something that takes less effort to program")
For shame, Game Freak!

>>32900865
I misplaced a parenthetical mark.

>>32900865
So they fuck to make eggs then?

>>32900900
No, not all Pokémon come from eggs. This can be easily proven by the Diary in the Pokémon Mansion on Cinnabar Island, stating "FEB. 6 MEW GAVE BIRTH".
One does not give birth to eggs. This was also in the Japanese original version.
Of course, Pokémon Origins altered that line of text, so they may have retroactively removed that reference.

>>32900993
I remember an old thread about the complex rl lore of the lake guardians, apparently their "helmets" make up a three of life or something. I'll try to look it up when I'm not on mobile. It had diagrams and everything.

This reminds me though, Palkia and Dialga. I think Dialga's symbol and type are diamond and steel because it's supposed to endure the passage of time like a diamond by being hard like steel. Palkia's symbol is a pearl because, between the game itself, space is said to "expand", wich is what a pearl does in a way starting out as a grain of sand, and it does so while inside a clam in the water hence the water type.
inb4 Donkey Kong

I legitimately wanna know. If pokeballs soothe wild pokemon and force them to become tame, how much abuse, wrongdoing and violating would it take to break the daze?

>>32901268
>three
*tree

I've been thinking quite a bit about how terrains work in the real world. It makes sense that paralysis and burns are prevented under misty terrain due to being suppressed by moisture in the air, but how does the terrain prevent sleep? Also, how does electric terrain prevent sleep? And how does grassy terrain work?

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>>32901274
I don't think that it can be broken.
>>32901370
Why can't one have two status ailments at the same time? (Ignoring confusion, etc.)

So this thread is for highly advanced autism with literal underage faggots that correct grammatical errors as if this was a YouTube comment section?

>>32901507
>Comments here should be well written. We mock every grammatical error here.
Did you even read the post?

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>>32901540
I'll take that as a yes.
>implaying that making the statement of well written comments will make this any less autistic or true to my statement.
Guess /vp/ gets progressively worst as the day pass. Or is just another summerfag thing.

I can tell tnay dis yhreads are very fun and lively

>>32901567
>implying that anyone here is denying that this thread is extremely autistic
Would you seriously rather have another wa*fu thread instead?

>>32901608
He's a poster who gets his jollies by derailing productive discussion threads. We'll christen him "Progressively Worst".

>>32901608
Don't tell me that they filtered the word waifu

>>32901719
>Productive discussion.
>On something that adds nothing on anything other than stroking your autism.
Can you not?

What is this thread

>>32900021
Your babbling in the Latias thread was one of the most autistic things I've ever seen on /vp/.

>>32901774
What do you even want?

Competitive battling? Art? Game discussion?

Do you just want meme circlejerking?

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>>32901883
I want to bully.

What could be the best way to tame or befriend legendaries like Genies or the Regis?

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>>32902114
You may be able to help them in a moment of weakness.

>>32902114
Use a Master Ball, feed it three rainbow-colored Poké Beans, have it hold a Soothe Bell, and then bike around for an hour or two.

>>32902114
Show them the world. Take them on adventures. And also >>32902384 >>32902422

I have been thinking, that in a world where all humans were replaced with Pokémon, how the Typing would be connected to the careers taken.
Electric, Ground, Steel: Electrician
Grass, Fire, Normal: Baker
Steel, Fighting, Water, Ghost: Plumber
Fire, Ground, Water: Firefighter
Grass, Ground, Water: Farmer

>>32902566
Would firefighters really be fire type when their main purpose is to put out fires?

>>32902588
I think the logic is fire types would be able to go into fires and save people within them without taking damage, if they have Flash Fire anyway.

Would male Pokemon cross dress?

>>32902698
That makes sense. I think volcanion would suit the role really well, with its typing and design and all. Phanpy and donphan too.

>>32900021
>>Anything in foreign languages.
No, foreignposting is NOT okay and should be brought to >>>/int/ or >>>/bant/

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>>32902422
>not Luxury Ball

>>32902771
Pendejo mal nacido.

>full autismo coming thru

A human and it's pokemon have the same relationship as a human and his pet, pokemon are essentially pets that could very well overpower you but are taught or choose not to, be it because of friendship or because you can provide your pokemon of things they are simply unable to get.

Something similar, for example, happened between humans and wolves at least 10000 years ago. We needed something from them and they needed something from us, creating cooperation between them which is why we domesticated the grey wolf and got the current dogs as a result.

Humans and pokemon shared the common willingness to survive, but humans where the first ones to domesticate other species for mutual convenience and soon the first human societies were born, this is also why you can find "early route" species close to human civilization.

Even then, this didn't happened with all the species around, as fully grown species can be dangerous if not raised from their base form like the pseudo legends or many of the low friendship pokemon, and others are naturally dangerous like grimer or ferroseed.

I'm slightly drunk, bear with me, I just wanted to get those thoughts off me

>>32902706
Not for any fetishistic reasons, but possibly for humor.

>>32902908
Pokemon are like pets you can fuck

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>>32901268
Here it is: https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/29328044/

>>32903115
Do you fornicate with your pets?
>>32903125
It's quite detailed.

Do you think artificial pokemon like Pory line or golurk have emotions and deserve the same threatement as any other pokemon?

>>32903503
All pokemon should be treated with respect and kindness, even if they cannot express it in return; so whether they have emotions or not is irrelevant.

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>>32903562
That is well-said.

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I can't speak for anybody else, but it feels like I lose brain cells when I look at the newest Deviantart submissions.
Filtered e621 (e926) is still lacking anything good, also.
Good art is hard to find.
(This picture made me chuckle.)

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>>32904348
That picture of a Latias Miltank hybrid will haunt me.

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>>32904348
>>32904376
Made me smile, thanks for these.

As for tasteful art, I think this one comes pretty close. I found it via google images a while ago.

Fairy type is totally the ayyylium type

It's often associated with the moon, including lots of rabbit pokemon being fairy (like azumarill and wigglytuff) when the rabbit is associated with the moon in japanese folklore (see: the rabbit pounding mochi/medicine on the moon).

Lots of fairy types are the infamous "pink blobs" and/or are in the Amorphous egg group (Gardevoir for example). This associates them with things that are slightly unearthly in form. Clefable, one of the "pink blob" fairies, is straight-up associated with the moon and evolves using the Moon Stone.

This is not to say that all aliens or pokemon associated with the moon are fairy type (we have Beeheeyem, Deoxys, and Umbreon as proof of that), just that fairys are aliens and/or associated with the moon. Think frogs vs toads and how all toads are frogs but not all frogs are toads.

Alternatively I'm reading into it too much and they just seem unearthly because fairies are not really of this world; you could substitute "extradimensional" or "paranormal" for alien if you wish. That's not as fun though.

>>32904463
The moves Moonlight and Moonblast also happen to be Fairy-type.

I am lacking punctuation

Mock me

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I'm happy there's a thread like this around /vp/. I have been wanting to talk about my autistic Pokemon ideas somewhere.

I always wondered how would Sturdy work in real life. Even if they don't lose HP from One-hit KO moves, would they still feel pain from those sort of moves?

>>32902970
woukld they ,et ne if it was for fetsihs stuff?

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>>32904397
This one is similar.

>>32904508
i think it's something like super armor from smash
>>32904463
>extradimensional
>literally wielders of something so outlandish that we call it magic or fairy
>not funny

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>>32904509
Your license would get revoked.

>>32904508
I don't think so. They don't receive any damage from them so I'd assume that those moves don't affect them at all, thus they don't feel any pain.

>>32903485
No. Which is why pokemon are great.

What would Pokemon food chains look like?
The Pokedex in Sun and Moon alludes to a lot of possible chains. For example, Mareanie is said to eat Corsola, but what eats the Mareanie? And what does Corsola eat?

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>>32904737
Mareanie is based on the crown of thorns starfish, so maybe you could look at what real-life animals eat the crown of thorns and then see what those animals' Pokemon equivalents would be, then say those are the Pokemon that eat Mareanie.

To that end, I found a site that says the crown of thorns starfish is eaten by the giant triton snail, the stars and stripes pufferfish, the titan triggerfish, and the humphead maori wrasse. I guess the Pokemon version of the pufferfish could be Qwilfish, and the triggerfish could be Bruxish, but I don't know about the sea snail or wrasse.

As for Corsola, the dex says it absorbs nutrients from water, so I guess that's what it "eats".

>>32904871
The humphead wrasse can also be Bruxish, since Bruxish is shaped like one.

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>>32904538
then so be it

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>>32904928
I'm never going to need this picture.

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>>32905000
mmm thanks

Do Pokemon create real fire, water, etc? Or is all just imitation, "moves of that ttpe"?

>>32906499
I'm inclined to say they create real fire, spray real water, etc.
Running out of PP is because they ran out of water reserves/chemicals to create fire, etc.

>>32906499
There may be something connected to turning elemental energy into matter.
Can you drink the water produced by a Water-Type?
What happens when you drink a Vaporeon?

When I found Ever Grande City for the first time, it bothered me severely.
There is not a single house in that place, so how can it be called a city?
Sometime later, something snapped, and I realized that it WAS the best city.
I think that Game Freak was trying to illustrate something important.
It's a city of FLOWERS. (Why not count them?) How many Pokémon live there? You can't see them in the overworld, after all. (Victory road has some, but I wouldn't count that as being part of the city.)
Perhaps, the developers were trying to say that the best city is the undisturbed natural world.
...I still hate them for it. But it's an interesting philosophical point.
Perhaps it only counts as a city because of the presence of the Pokémon League. It's a city by technicality.
It has no crime, no debt, no fires, no unemployment, no traffic, and no pollution. This makes it the best city.
Has anybody else though about this so deeply?

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>>32907031
*thought, not though

>>32907031
I thought the city was underground.

>>32907071
Hmm... It is outright stated that in Lavender Town, the graves in the Pokémon tower were moved underground. You aren't allowed to see them.
So it is possible, that there is something underground.

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What do you think each UB reacted over being in other dimension?

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>>32900627
Pokemon don't have periods, stupid! They lay eggs!

>>32909629
We know of at least one Pokémon that doesn't lay eggs (Mew), unless this has been retroactively removed from the canon. See >>32900993 .

>>32908887
nihilego - wanted to bodysnatch little girls
buzzwole - wanted to rule tinyarms
pheromosa - wanted to purge world of filth
xurkitree - wanted to eat all electricity
celesteela - wanted to go home
kartana - wanted a princess to love
guzzlord - wanted a snack

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Check this out.

>>32911689
Can humans impregnate pokemon?

>>32912068
I think not. We probably don't share an egg group with any of them.

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>>32912068
If all legendary Pokémon share a breeding group, then the question is whether humans are in the legendary Pokémon breeding group.

>>32912033
Interesting. Then how would naming dual-type pokemon work?

>>32912714
First name = first type
Last name = second type

>>32912701
What if humans are in the ditto egg group?
Then they could impregnate all pokemon.

>>32912714
It's your choice, really.
(I suppose you could pick the primary type every time, if you were into that kind of consistency.)
I would choose whichever I fancy more.

>>32912737
Hmm... That's not a bad idea.

>>32912738
Humans can't use the move Transform.

>>32912738
Humans aren't in any egg group since they breed differently than Pokemon do

>>32912755
Are you sure?

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forgot pic

>>32912908
Ditto can ONLY use transform; Mew and Smeargle also can use Transform.

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>>32913012
This got me thinking.
If mew and smeargle can both use transform, shouldn't they be able to breed with any pokemon, similar to how ditto does it?
Mew being unable to breed is most likely just gameplay/lore segregation, so I'll let that slide.
But that still doesn't answer why smeargle can't breed with all pokemon.
Im starting to think egg groups might just be bullshit.

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I'm particularly enamoured with the idea of pokemon having so many different types. One thing I've done is translate them into uncommon languages, including latin.

I've recently seen someone else doing the same thing but the thread was dead before I could respond, so here's my own take on them.

Normal : Normalis
Fire : Ignis
Water : Aqua
Electric : Fulmen
Grass : Herba
Ice : Glacies
Fighting : Pugna
Poison : Venenum
Ground : Terra
Flying : Volucris
Psychic : Mens
Bug : Bestiola
Rock : Petra
Ghost : Spiritus
Dragon : Draco
Dark : Tenebra
Steel : Ferrum
Fairy : Mythologia

Some of them I'm not too proud of, any correction appreciated.

>>32914379
Yeah, I'm that guy from that other thread.
"Normalis" isn't the word I would use, since it comes from "Norma", a carpenter's square. It means "right-angled" more than how we use it in English. I would say "Ordinarius", because it conveys the meaning more accurately.
"Ignis" is a literal translation of the English name, but the Japanese name is more accurately translated as "flame", which is "flamma" in Latin.
I see no problem with "aqua".
"Fulmen" isn't a bad translation either, but "Electricitas" could also work (the quality of having electric charge, not the English meaning of "Electricity")
"Herba" is a good word. "Gramen" could also work, but it's not as common of a word, and it means almost the same thing.
"Pugna" literally means "A fight". "Pugnans", from the verb "Pugno", means "fighting" as a participle, (i.e. a verbal adjective)
"Venenum" could work, but I also like "Virus".
"Terra" has more meanings closer to "land" than "ground".
I would use "Humus", or possibly "Solum" instead.
"Volucris" works, but "Volans" also works.
"Mens" means "the mind". "Mentalis" would be the adjective from that.
"Bestiola"... I had not thought of that. I was so sure that "Cimex" was the only word for "bug" in Latin. It could work.
"Petra" isn't a native Latin word. (My internet cut out, so I wasn't able to check if it was actually used.) "Saxum" is the closest that I could get to the English meaning of "Rock", but "Rupes" isn't far behind.
"Spiritus" is inadequate. (It literally means "a breathing", generally used to describe the living.) I would say "Phantasma". "Manes" works, but it has a unique meaning.
"Draco": this is as good as it will probably get. The problem is that the Romans understood it to literally mean a kind of serpent. "Imperator" (emperor) would capture the Japanese meaning more accurately. I would use "Draco" anyway.
About "Tenebra": I said "Dolosus", meaning "tricky" or "crafty". "Nefastus" also captures the meaning of being "evil" or "wrong".

>>32914379
>>32915274
Continued:
So it seems that Petra is, indeed, a Latin word.

For "Psychic" type, the name in Japanese is "ESPer". (Extra-Sensory Perception.-er) In the card games, it's "Chou", which means "Super-, Hyper-, Ultra-, Extra-, Mega-, Para-, Trans-" in English. Latin Wikipedia wasn't of much help.
https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecinesis
So in the spirit of the Japanese original, I say that it should be "Magis" or "Magnopere".
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0059:entry=magnopere
Here it says that "Magnopere" is often used with words denoting mental action.
I want to use the verb "Mentior", but it is connected with deceiving.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dmentior
"Cogito" is better.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Dcogito
So "Psychic" could be "Magnopere (Cogitans)".
"Ferrum" means "Iron" as well as "Steel". "Chalybs" means steel exclusively.
It's not easy to translate "Fairy". "Diva" and "Mythicus" seemed to be the only possibilities, until I found "Fada".
https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fada

>>32915431
>>32915274
>>32914379
So here is my personal translation (having not turned everything into adjectives yet):
Ordinarius
Aqua
Flamma
Electricitas
Herba
Glacies
Pugnans
Virus
Humus
Volans
Magnopere?
Cimex
Saxum
Phantasma
Draco
Dolosus?
Chalybs
Fada