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Bad fanart thread No fetishes, just bad art

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Bad fanart thread
No fetishes, just bad art
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tumblr art is somebody's fetish
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This is supposed to be flannery :^)
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inb4 someone actually shows up defending this
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>>32879105
what the fuck
that's just generic shanuiqa with a pokeball
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I think hau is my least favorite part of this picture
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>>32879100
>>32879105
You two are pathetic. Different interpretation =/= bad art.
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>>32879100
so basically bad tumblr art?
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>>32879117
>>32879106
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>>32879117
>>32879106
EASIEST PREDICTION OF MY LIFE

I'm surprised how many tumblrtards faggots /vp/ actually has.
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>>32879117
Nope. bad art = bad art.
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>>32879117
>different interpretations
>just makes them black
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>>32879117
Ah, but different interpretation that strips away the identity of the character is bad.
Having a bad artstyle is a whole different problem.
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>>32879117
i dont think making characters black and/or obese is "interpretation" but that might just be me
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why
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>>32879117
Flannery isn't supposed to be a filthy nigger you dumb fuck.
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>>32879117
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>>32879117
But brendan, flannery, or lisia are not black
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>>32879156
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>>32879119
Tumblr can have good art, it's just that a lot of the time when they draw humans they look the same and are very ugly. There's also the obviously forced diverse characters in everything which isn't a bad thing I guess, but it certainly is creepy.
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>>32879100
Idk, Wally is pretty cute, but that is nothing new
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>>32879156
Think I saw a dog shit on the road today that looked more like Llima
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>>32879156
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>>32879100
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>>32879205
UNDERRATED POST
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>>32879117
I'm honestly not sure if you're baiting or not.
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>>32879228
I was. I honestly don't know how such a bad bait got so much replies.
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>>32879228
Think you are right.
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>>32879252
I suppose since tumblrinas are actually like this that it wasnt so much bad bait as it was a very good impersonation.
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>>32879117
>Different interpretations

>lol what if I drew this character black? xD
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>>32879105
Doesn't work as Flannery fanart but is fine own its own.

That's basically my biggest issue with a lot of tumblr fanart, they're so focused on virtue signaling, headcanon, or whatever they over look the actual character. The rest of it is just inexperienced people who haven't looked into the fundamentals drawing stuff for fun and I don't mind that. They'll learn eventually or stay mediocre. Tumblr art is just this decade's bad anime art.

And sometimes you'll get some really stylish art that might not be good in loomis sense the but has cool use of gesture and color.
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>>32879351
And it still work. I guess being in Summer helps.
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>>32879353
Yeah that's what I first tight when I saw it. She could do an amazing Lenora, but instead of focusing on the actual diversity in pokemon, she had to make her own
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>>32879183

There might be people out there who are terribly racist which I am against, but honestly, people that promote diversity while making every character drawn with only one specific skin tone you're heavily promoting while shutting down the actual original skin tone they have seems awfully racist too.

Don't even get me started on people who draw black people without knowing about their fucking palms of their hands and feet. Or people that draw black people as black only. There are several tones, not just one kind of black.

If you want to promote diversity, at least consider all skin tones, not just one. And I don't mean "lol let's make this character have a skin color completely different from their actual original one".
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>>32879100
>look up artist
>they're like 16
This is the same as DA Sonic OCs, let kids have their fun.
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>>32879431
>"lol let's make this character have a skin color completely different from their actual original one".

They only do this if they're making the character darker, if vice versa you're going to get shit. Same with making a fat character skinny, and if someone made a canonically gay character straight I can't imagine how they would react.
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>>32879100
The May is cute
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>>32879480
>actually taking the higher ground
This is vp
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>>32879556
Yeah, may and wally are totally fine
Dunno why they ducked up the other two????? Lisia is the whitest character in oras
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>>32879100
>>32879105
>>32879113
>>32879131
>>32879156
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>>32879578
After so many iterations of this kid's art sucks, you gotta mix it up some.
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>>32879113
It seems all the retarded Deviantart kids went to Tumblr, and now the Deviantart kids are growing up.
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>>32879480
No! Otherwise they'll never learn.
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>>32879655
So why do they need to? It's okay to suck at a hobby.
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>>32879679
also someone crop that miltank face
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>>32879685
Either be good at it, or get laughed at for being bad at it.
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>>32879692
There you go Anon.
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More cringy tumblr shit
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>>32879480
Didn't you know that Japanese artists can already pump out doujin-quality art at that age?
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>>32879708
This isn't bad though. Would fit nicely in a gijinka thread.
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>>32879708
What's bad about it exactly?
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>>32879721
>>32879722
Gijinkas are a cancer that needs to be eradicated
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This is a vivillon gijinka
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>>32879708
there's nothing wrong with this one.
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>>32879708
that heliolisk is pretty amazing
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>>32879731
Holy shit
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>>32879726
So that's a - well, your - problem with gijinka in general, not "cringy tumblr shit".
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>>32879731
wtf im straight now thanks for curing my gay
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>>32879721
>>32879722
>>32879735
>>32879746
>>32879750
>having shit taste
Mixing humans with pokemon design is disgusting, I can't see the appeal in it at all
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>>32879707
nice, saved
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>>32879708
tumblrnoses were a mistake
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>>32879731
Kill me
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>>32879708
this is ever-so-slightly better than average tumblr nose, a little closer to a muppet or animal crossing nose
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>>32879731
I ain't having this in my History or in my hippocampus, so can some brave/dumb soul tell me if that's supposed to be his package or what's left of his lunch?
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>>32879768
>>shit taste
go back to /a/ or /v/
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>>32879768
Like I've said, it's your particular problem with gijinka in general, not exactly a Tumblr thing. Also;
>Implying I have to like gijinka to say that
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>>32879806
Looks like the former, it seems to be in front of the leg.
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>>32879850
My Sunday school teacher was right!
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>>32879909
I've seen worse
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>>32879731
Sorry about your prostate cancer, Vivillon.
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>>32879850
Thats actually pretty cool
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>>32879708
So, is Steven Universe the new MLP or something?

Also TOP KEK at all the retards praising this.
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>>32879716
Weeb pls
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>>32879731
>>32879769
>No fetishes, just bad art
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>>32879850
That's what I call edgy
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>>32879953
>top kek
when did i go back to 2015
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>>32879982
>>32879769 isn't fetish art, it was tagged as fat acceptance
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>>32879708
not waifus?


but pangoro is badass af
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>>32879117
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>>32879131
CHUBBY AND TRANS!!
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>>32879708
These would be fine without the triangle noses
Do people think that looks good??????
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>>32880230
not really. it's your generic buff guy.

>>32880423
>tfw when you stupid bait works
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>>32880550
I actually like this.
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>>32879100
And I bet half of them are trans or some shit too.
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>>32879731
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>32879100
>>32879113
>>32879131
>>32879369
>>32879909

Eugh, why is it that these same-face characters are popular on Deviantart and Tumblr? They're just ugly and uninspired.

I mean, people can draw whatever they want, but you're not going to become a better artist if you use Steven Universe/Disney as your reference for drawing people.
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>>32880545

I wonder if misty likes to be choked
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>>32880550
>Zelda Philips CDi
Drawfag here. Realistic noses are hard.
I know that's a shitty excuse. These tumblr artists really should learn how to draw proper noses. But I guess they're going for a simpler, more stylized look.
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>>32880688
I'm a drawfag too, and yeah noses can be hard but certainly aren't the hardest thing
Triangular noses are bullshit and honestly aren't a good representation of a nose

It's more like a rectangle with a ball on the end and two pyramid like structures on the side. No nose just goes to a point like that, they have nostrils. I'd honestly just rather see a dot than a triangle, because unless you got a shit character like gru from despicable me where every defining feature is exeggurated beyond belief, my eye should not be drawn immediately to your fucking nose, you should see a face as a whole

I can identify that snape has a hooked nose but that's not what my eye is immediately drawn to when I see alan rickman's face

It's lazy and ugly
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>>32879105
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>>32880819
I'm not disagreeing with you. And the fact that they're always a different color than the face certainly doesn't help. If they used more subtle colors, it probably wouldn't be so bad.
That said, I usually don't put a lot of detail into noses. I'll usually just draw a darkened shape to indicate shade on the underside of the nose.
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>>32879100
The only one that looks passable is Wally
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>>32879731
And this is much worse
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>>32879708
If he didn't have a tumblr nose that heliolisk would be perfect
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>>32879105
It's cute as an original work, but how the fuck is this Flannery?
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>>32880550
This isn't bad

It's just the color that makes my eyes scream for help.
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>>32880943
That ones adorable
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>>32880819
That drawing is pretty cool, though. Don't know if you were calling it shit.
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>>32880672
Because ugly characters make ugly women feel better about themselves.
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>>32881006
I like a lot of that artists work, but she draws may/sapphire sooo ugly
She turns her fat, black, and into a werewolf basically
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>>32880545
>filename
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>>32879100
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Yuck
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>>32879961
>dude weebs lmao!
I'll rather appreciate art made by a group that actually makes quality art and get insulted for it, then to appreciate art made by a group that are inexperienced and not get insulted for it.
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>>32879117
>blatant bait gets this many (You)s
You faggots are the reason why /vp/ has gone to shit.
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>>32879353
wow theres lots of tumblr blogs with awesome pokemon art
the best thing of tumblr is the art, not every artist there distort the characters
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>>32881528
Got any recommendations for good art blogs or anything that reblogs a lot of fanart?
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>>32879117
wow the art os nice but its not flannery
>its ok adding a darker color skin to a character
>i love realistic art
>but that girl is not fucking flannery
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>>32880550
Some faggot fucked up Grimsley. An hero.
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>>32879100
>give them awful looking faces/make them black
stop
at least with a decent amount of fetishes you can logically project them on the characters
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>>32879117
You're one of them.
Get out.
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>>32879117
There's a difference between accentuating features that could be plausible (not realistic, just accepted by fans that could see it that way) to a given character and just tenuously holding on to the character's name.

At that point, it may as well have been an OC.
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Steven's Universe was a mistake.
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>>32879117
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>>32881767
Not just that, cost cutting animation techniques inspiring a generation of "fundamentals are oppressive" type fake drawfags. Canada is salting the wound with toilet water as far as their cartoons go, too.
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>>32881218
Not really bad. Just looks weird and creepy because it's in that weird grey area of realistic and cartoony. I'm sure if he drew something else it would look fine.
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>>32881710
The fuck does that even mean? That I am one of the guy who posted the bad art? Did you seriously failed your comeback?
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>>32879768

> I can't see the appeal in it at all
That's your problem, I love shit like this
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How do they look at their art and think it looks appealing in any form? God these people need mental help.
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>>32880550
This one is not bad, it's gross on purpose and I'm actually okay with that because Guzma and the new Grimsley are shit.
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>>32881874
It's this generations 'Anime style', a bunch of young teenagers using styles or trends they see around them to learn how to draw, naturally it's a bumpy start because they're trying to jump into a style right away unlike artists who have worked their way into that style who know more of what they are doing.

Now get off your phone.
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>>32879708
They should learn how to draw a nose
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>>32881899
The "anime" period was weird because it also 90s kids who were either starting to cut their teeth on the stuff or also had exposure to western animation also going through some changes. It wasn't too out of the way to see stuff inspired by Animaniacs or Static Shock in addition to your Gundam Wing and Slayers and being inspired by both sides. When your sources for anime were Fox Kids, Kids WB and Cartoon Network, there was a fair chance you didn't just watch anime for inspiration.
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>>32879105
>>32879100
Can someone explain this trend of drawing white characters as black?
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>>32882092
I'd say "diversity", but I rarely - if ever - see a black characters drawn white. So I don't know.

"Racism", maybe?
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>>32879992
What do the hip kids say these days?
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>>32882126
Top fef
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>>32882092
>>32882115
>be black
>like anime
>shit, there are virtually no black anime characters, and even less are playable
>i'll make these characters black instead to compensate
Alternately, some people see that a character is somewhat brown (i.e ORAS Brenden) and exaggerate it, much like how artists draw May with huge tits, Chicken-chan as a loli, or SM Red as a bara. It's fan interpretation, but it only becomes an issue when black people are involved.
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>>32879113
>Those noses
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>>32882153
Why not just watch anime with black characters or seek out games with black characters in them?

Seems like that grievance is based more on tunnel vision than exploring your hobby.
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>>32879105
This is a good drawing but if she's Flannery then I'm Flannery
>>32879100
This is just shitty art, I don't know why some tumblr artists think this artstyle is cute
>>32879131
Same with this
>>32879156
ESPECIALLY THIS
>>32879556
in what world is that cute
>>32880943
this is cute
>>32881218
gross
>>32881236
this one is fine
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>>32882092
>white
They're Japanese. They have Japanese names and live in a region based off Japan
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>>32881218
I'd take this over that dumpy barnyfag any day
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>>32882196
Maybe not Flannery, but Glacia is definitely white.
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>>32881700
>awful looking faces/make them black
Redundant
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>>32882174
Because there are very few and far between, especially in mainstream Eastern stuff. Excluding creatable characters, how many black people do you see in JRPGs? How many lead? I can think of a handful, but none in games that 13-17 year olds would play, except maybe FF.
They were barren in Pokemon games until about gen V, and there wasn't a playable black protag till gen VI.
I remember almost 10 years ago when I was messing around with SSBB texture hacks and put this mod on Ness that made him look like Will Smith from the opening of Fresh Prince, black skin, shirt with yellow+green stripes. It was a joke skin, but it really had me thinking how cool it would be if you played Earthbound as a black kid. That's all the art posted ITT really is, "what if" stuff.
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>>32882174
Because so little exists, at least they did more around the time this trend started, people do seek out those that do exist with black characters but they want more than what they were getting, people want main characters, playable characters, positive characters and a lot of that happens to be primarily pale.

I never really cared about the race bending, it's not bad when an artist knows what they're doing, it's just blatantly obvious when the artist doesnt know what they're doing, and/or is just doing it to follow the trend for tumblr brownie points.
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>>32882153
>Alternately, some people see that a character is somewhat brown (i.e ORAS Brenden) and exaggerate it, much like how artists draw May with huge tits, Chicken-chan as a loli, or SM Red as a bara. It's fan interpretation, but it only becomes an issue when black people are involved.

Fan interpretation is something like not quite sticking to the source material pound-for-pound but still having certain elements of the character intact. You're talking about "Last Airbender"ing the cast and making shit a possible self-insert, riding on a character's established fandom for exposure purposes.

This is less about race and more about being a scoundrel while championing a well meaning cause such as representation as one's shield.
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>>32882153
And those people get made fun of for drawing cowtit May or Loli Moon. For some reason calling regards out only becomes an issue when they're black :^)
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>>32882274
Retards*
Autocorrect pls.
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>>32882249
JAPANESE PEOPLE AREN'T BLACK
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>>32881541
https://realisticpokemon.tumblr.com/

https://scenic-pokemon.tumblr.com/

http://artsymew.tumblr.com/

there's much more that i don't remember now
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>>32882288
JRPG =/= Japanese protagonist. There are a million blonde hair+blue eyes JRPG protagonists, as well as characters with no real race, like pic related, and even shit like made up races, like brown skin and white hair. It shouldn't be too out there for an actual black person to appear every now and then.
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>>32881538
>https://realisticpokemon.tumblr.com/
>https://scenic-pokemon.tumblr.com/
>http://artsymew.tumblr.com/

opsss
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>>32882320
Do you really expect Anime to be realistic?
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>>32882288
>>32882333
>there are no black people in Japan
>anime shouldn't be realistic
Pick one.
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>>32882320
JRPG means developed by Japanese people usually got Japanese people. Moreover the regions in Pokemon are based on real locations, most of which were in Japan (which has almost no black population) and where appropriate (US/France) they did show up. People just aren't going to design with a minority in mind and for good reason.
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>>32882362
Usually for*
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>>32882356
Bang up job there.
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>>32882356
The vast majority of the audience are not black. Anime is also typically unrealistic in its nature.
However you can not expect them to pander to black people who are not their primary audience
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>>32882362
Pokemon also is a game featuring fantasy animals fighting and evolving into different fantasy animals, there's an electric rabbit mouse and a set of floating keys with feelings, they are kept inside balls

realism is out the window
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>>32882333
You invalidate nothing, just so you know.

Also, ever watched pic related?
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>>32882249
JRPGs are made with Japan in mind, so their sensibilities will be catered to first. Games with international settings that could have a black guy are limited, even downright questionable in their depictions, but I don't think they really give much thought on diversity or inclusion. Nor do I think their lack of it is necessarily malicious or excluding. It's just sort of "there."

Nintendo is a company that has gained international appeal, but expecting them to play up to it, probably doesn't seem to be in the cards since they're more about ideas and concepts rather than who represents them. They're not going to think progressively, because they don't really have to and even if they did, it's not like they're going to hire a consultant to depict those aspects of said character(s) in a relatable way beyond appearance.

Your best bet is making a fangame/indie-clone of Earthbound with a black kid, because Itoi sure as fuck won't.

>>32882259
True, but the point being made is that there are characters you don't have to racebend when a series either

a) Has black or dark-skinned characters, even if they are characters of the day or side characters with a few good parts

or

b) An anime or game these types of people either never heard of or seen has a black/dark-skinned character ought to be acknowledged

It just seems like a big misdirected way of representation when you miss the actual character who is supposed to "look like you" and actually looks worthy of fanart, cosplay or toys. Not saying one can't admire or see oneself in the non-black/brown character, just seems kind of blind to me as some settings aren't supposed to be diverse in the first place (like Rumiko Takahashi's work being all about Japanese people's wacky lives) or just selectively diverse (Midori's Days having the American foreign exchange student).
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>>32882362
pokeworld is a fantasy world inspired on our own. The races don't apply like this. People irl doesn't have colorful hair and Archie, for example, is black but is from Hoenn. Misty is redhead from Kanto, etc... So get out of here with your bullshit.

ps: that flannery art is bad though
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>>32882320
Megami Tensei series games are the only JRPG released internationally that blatantly takes place in Japan. Everything else is just contemporary medieval inspired fantasy worlds, give or take some anachronistic elements. The latter does leave room for diversity, but again character design leans on either what the artists want to draw or what the people in character think their audience will go for. In a Japanese production committee, that's not gonna go very far.
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>>32882356
There are black people in Japan.
Not natively. Gaijin that speak the language just aren't unheard of.
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>>32882383
>>32882392
POGEUMAN IS A FANTASY HUUUUUUEHUEEEEE. But their races aren't. They have Japanese, American, French, Chinese, African and Polynesian equivalents right down to the dialect they use when speaking. Trying to equate that to stylized hair is a disingenuous argument. Your desire for a black character where they don't belong is fucking stupid.
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>>32882421
>There are black people in Japan
Literally .01%
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>>32882388
>>Nor do I think their lack of it is necessarily
malicious or excluding. It's just sort of "there."
I agree entirely, it's not as if they have a quota to fill or anything. However, because of this, fans take the matter into their own hands resulting in things like >>32882259 and >>32879105.

Everything eventually results to the fanart posted above, which is the whole reason we're having this surprisingly civil discussion. The initial question posted was "Why are these characters being drawn black", to which the answer was "because there aren't many black people in JRPGs".
Regardless of how you feel about what racebending actually represents in regards to the character in question, this is why people do it.
>>Your best bet is making a fangame/indie-clone of Earthbound with a black kid, because Itoi sure as fuck won't.
I learned this a while ago, that's why I'm making my own games now.
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>>32882436
no bro. More likely they are final fantasy kinda of characters. The race doesn't apply in pokemon world like in our world.
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>>32882443
for a japanese game, pokemon has a quite good amount of colored characters and lots of homoerotic tease. I don't think game freak doesn't care at all. But this is not the focus of pokemon
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>>32882459
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>>32882442
No =/= not a lot
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>>32882498
>Too small of a population to even be recorded as an existing minority
They're an anomoly. For all intents and purposes that's non-existent.
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>>32879100
Not sure if this counts as a fetish or not, I mean it sure as hell ain't mine but there are libs who fap to special pronouns
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>>32882509
But
but
but
...
why does the guy look more like a female than the actual female?
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>>32882388
>JRPGs are made with Japan in mind, so their sensibilities will be catered to first.

Good.

>Games with international settings that could have a black guy are limited, even downright questionable in their depictions

So?

>but I don't think they really give much thought on diversity or inclusion.

Nor should they. "Diversity" and "inclusions" are Marxist worldviews aimed at subverting and attacking whites. They have and should have no place in video games.

>Nor do I think their lack of it is necessarily malicious or excluding

Even if it was intentionally, its not wrong. Rejecting diversity is what normal and healthy people did and is the reason why diverse society are dysfunctional. Rejecting diversity should be applauded, and racial homogeneity should be embraced.

>because Itoi sure as fuck won't.

Thank god, it would be fucked up and only a non-white like you would be satisfied with that. How can Ness be a black kid? Earthbound is a parody of 1950s America, and a white child is what 1950s America was. To turn it into a black, when blacks do not behave like whites, is an assault on that character. It's racial politics pure and simple.
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>>32882509
Democracy was a mistake.
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>>32882509
Definitely fetish. Also,
>Girl was still given pink
>Boy was still given blue
So is this guy trying to be progressive or not?
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>>32882521
>>32882509
Humanity was a mistake
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>>32882526
You already know they're both just Futa.
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>>32882526
Is progressive because he subverts expectations of characters who subvert expectations
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>>32882153
>ORAS Brendan
Brendan is literally a pasty Jap kid who moved to Hoenn from Johto.
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>>32882516
Not everything you don't like is a slight that brings you one step towards your mythical race war.
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>>32882092
Something something post-modernist neo-marxists
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>>32882509
>draw a girl and call it a boy
>draw a boy, slap some tits on it, and call it a girl
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>>32882153
>annoyed that not everything is about you.
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You shouldn't pander to the small vocal minorities. Remember what happened in Fahrenheit 451. Media became some bland mindless thing because no body wanted to offended anyone.
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>>32880943
Wtf is wrong with this? It looks pretty and cute as heck
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>>32882770
Guy's probably this one >>32879726.
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>>32879117
kill yourself land whale
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>>32880550
this is very unsettling but I guess that was the purpose, so the artist kinda did a good job.
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>>32879480
The problem isn't the quality of the art it's the style.
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>>32879113
gladion looks a bit like beavis
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>>32882516
>>>/pol/
>>32882509
I'd fuck them both
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>>32879100
I actually don't hate the art. Like the style isn't awefull but every facet of what it represents and is based on triggers me so hard...
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>>32879992
There was a revival of the phrase in 2016 because of the us presidential election. Where have you been?
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>>32882509
I seriously don't get these people who draw all of these SJW pandering bullshit. Don't they ever stop to reevaluate their artwork?
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>>32879105
this is great. most other things in this thread are terribly done no amount of muh style and muh cartoons can save.
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>>32883232
underrated post
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>>32883151
Take your pol whining to /tv/.
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ITT: people on the internet draw whatever they want, /vp/ gets triggered hard and deliberately imports cancer to make a shit board worse

good job

also whoever drew that black flannery did pretty well I'm only an amateur but copic markers scare me
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>>32883376
People can draw whatever they want, sure, but people are also allowed to criticize other people's drawings and give them advice on how to get better. 4chan isn't the best place for it for obvious reasons, but other art websites outside of Tumblr/Deviantart would really slam their drawings for how unrealistic they look. A good artist doesn't stick with the same art style forever and is determined at trying new things and becoming better.

This is the Internet. Not everybody is going to like what other people draw. You should know that by now.
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>>32881820
it's bad because it's done in that "lol what if pokemon were scary and real" style that normies point at and scream "epic" to unironically
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>>32883324
Of course not. The thing about "pandering" is that as long as the viewer likes it, all else be damned.
This is why trying to please everyone often destroys an artist. You're the one holding the pen; don't let other people move your hand.

Granted, not all of them are bad, I at least admit that much.
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>>32879105

Niggers are desperate for media representation even though they are over-represented in everything nowadays. People who are defending this shit art are definitely niggers themselves.

Disgusting.
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>>32882249

>MUH REPRESENTATION
>If a JAPANESE game doesn't feature black characters, it's racist!!!!

Other races never complain about this. It's only you niggers for some reason. Must be because you are so fucking insecure and too stupid too realize that the world doesn't revolve around you.
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>>32883428
>>32883449
>>>/pol/
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>>32879850
>Alakazam with Kadabra's star
consider me triggered
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>>32883376
>people are allowed to produce content but not criticize it
>complains about the board's quality instead of improving it with good threads and posts
>going into a thread about a subject you don't like just to complain about other people being there
You are part of the problem Anon
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>>32883458
>Gets told
>"G-go b-back to /pol/ x((, you're hurting mah feelins'!!! "
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>>32879100
>Post bad art
>*Posts Dumblr art*
That's cheating, OP.
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>>32883449
Only because America fuels racial tensions for the Democratic party to secure minority votes. Can't be letting people think for themselves now can we?
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>>32883395

most of the posts in this thread are far from criticism. neither racebending nor muh representation are a criticism of the style and technique. I mean, it's pretty clear that the point of this thread is making fun of these drawings because there is no point in putting criticism where the artist can't see. which is fine in idea- we habitually have cringe and autism threads. the problem is that this thread is solely attracting shitposting and muh /pol/ muh sjw discussions that don't belong here and only serve to shit up the board even further.

I also think that this new-ish steven universe trend is horrendous. before these retarded faces and "round" blob bodies there was that red tumblr nose, elbow etc. trend, which you don't see often these days. it's obvious that many of these artists just latch onto whatever style is popular at the moment to satisfy themselves, just like the sonic craze in early 2000s and disney/slayers/saber marionette trend in 90s, and are not looking to improve.
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>>32879708
This isn't terrible but it's certainly not good.

People who say there is nothing wrong with this are retarded, the noses alone are completely uninspired and generic tumblr meme nose. It's actually becoming as big as a meme as "Big anime eyes" were in the 90s.
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>>32883499
There is nothing wrong with the "tumblr" nose if you just ignore it
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>>32883502
I guess.
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>>32881872
I love the juxtaposition of the pacifier and the bat.
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>>32882442
Wow, I didn't realize Okinawa's population was that low.
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>>32879105
This drawing is great tough, but it sure doesn't look like Flannery.
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>>32883539
>Tropical Japanese People = African People
>inb4 "American military personnel families count"
>They're American
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>Post Tumblr fan art
>Discourse
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>>32883539
>Tanned japs are negroids

Are you fucked in the head?
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>>32879100
> shit on Tumblr
> can't do better

Kek
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>>32881738
The Misty in this image makes my dick rock solid.
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>>32883711
That's like saying you considering a burned cake to be bad, but can't give criticism because you can't bake a cake.
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>>32883711
I honestly expect this excuse to pop up before we got to 200 replies.
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>>32883400
That doesn't make it "bad art" just because you don't like the subject matter. It's objectively well drawn.
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>>32879697

Edgy.
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>>32881102
>vs Machamp
OK THATS IT IM TRIGGERED
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>>32881218
Like that black flannnert iasue....He redesigned the Pokemon
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>>32883493
The newest trend is drawing heart-shaped mouth like yuri on ice
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>>32879716
>thinking they can all draw that well at that age
>thinking every Japanese artist draws that well at all

When will this "Japanese are good at everything" meme die?
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>>32881218
I understand the artist is doing a "what if Pokemon were real?" thing but there is no god damn way that thing is going to be able to fly on those wings.
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>>32883867
They don't realize that fanart that gets posted around is good because someone thought it was good and saved it. pixiv is equally full of horribly drawn furry/fetish shit and blurry photos of scribbles some 14 year old did in 30 minutes
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>>32883867
When these same weebs actually go on Pixiv and look at every little shit that was posted, and not just the "top pick of the day".
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>>32879953
those designs look nothing like steven universe's character designs
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>>32881738
From left to right: fuck, hold hands, date for a few days and realize she's batshit crazy
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>>32883901
There is no way that Erika is sane either. Those eyes say differently.
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>>32882196
>>32882436
Square mind
You are so fucking dumb that cant understand a concept of fantasy world with diverse races.
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>>32882362
There's black people in pokejapan though. So ethnies in Earth are not the same in pokemon.
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>>32883932
who? Unova and Kalos has some but I'm drawing a blank on Kanto through Sinnoh.
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>>32883917
But she's too cute and pure
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>>32883395
What are other good art sites besides Tumblr and DeviantArt?
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>>32883477
Kill yourself
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>>32883493
Said everything
Finally someone with brains
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>>32883973
Pixiv, twitter, and furaffinity are basically the only other sites the hobbyists post. There's artstation which is meant for employment and professionals, but like anything where anyone can post quality can be questionable.
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>>32883962
>claims she's cute and pure
>wants to stain that purity by holding hands with her
You sick fuck
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>>32883932
Brock, Dahlia, Phoebe, ORAS Brendan, ORAS Team Aqua, and Spencer. And some other random trainer classes in ORAS.
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>>32883869
It's bad because that shit is not Dragonite. The artist has talent but the style and concept is terrible.
If it were a fakemon would be ok.
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>>32883990
There is nothing wrong with the style.
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>>32883989
tan=/=black

I'll give you Dahlia though she's probably Latina.
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>>32883982
I do that like pixiv concept. I hate browse in that site and where I live is too slow

Twitter is not exclusive for art

Art station is great but not so interactive unless you want to make commissions

I'll look for the other site you said

Tumblr was great but now is full of sjw. I wish there were another site like that without this kind of people


>Thanks
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>>32883986
Hey don't tell me you wouldn't do it if you could
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>>32884026
Just a warning, but Furaffinity is a furry site with lower standards than deviantart. There's no good art sites for amateurs, it feels like.
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>>32882153
its Brendan you illiterate fuck
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>>32883990
That artist actually has two artbooks depicting "realistic" Pokemon with in-dept "dex" entries. Some of them are fine but I dislike the majority of them because he turns Pokemon into basically animals for the sake of realism and then writes paragraphs on how it makes sense

He also draws a lot of dinosaur art
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>>32884000
Headcanon
Most of those characters are black. Why the denial?
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>>32884000
Latina is not a race your fuck
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>>32884051
If is the proposal turning Pokemon into animals is ok. A creative idea.

But is not a good depiction of realistic Pokemon, he is just making up thing and taking too much liberties.
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>>32881872
This is fucking great
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>>32882330
>https://realisticpokemon.tumblr.com/
>https://scenic-pokemon.tumblr.com/
>http://artsymew.tumblr.com/
The first two are great sites.

The last one reblog shit and sometimes good art
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>>32879708
What the fuck are the first and last ones supposed to be?
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>>32884106
Not really, I wish people would stop mistaking lots of details for good.
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>>32884056
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Hispanic_vs_Latino
What's the right term then?

>>32884114
heliosk dragle
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>>32884121
Whats the point you can't understand tha Latino is not a race? What you point as Latino are usually mixed race Spanish/portuguese speakers. Usually used by people who live in USA to portray Mexicans.
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>>32884114
No I just didn't like some of the art of the last Tumblr. It has some sjw and most pics are too cartoonish and generic.
The art of the other two looked more selected and unique.Just my opinion ofc
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>>32879117
M.night Shyamalan's the Last Airbender movie was ALSO a "different interpretation" of the Avatar series. But according to you, I guess it doesn't equal a "bad movie".
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>>32882509
Tanisha and Trista, more like Tranisha and Tranistan
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>>32883989
>Brock

Tanned

>Phoebe

Polynesian

>Oras Brendan

LOL

>Oras team aqua

All tanned because they are pirates. Even Matt has a tanline

Pretty sure you're the one who's in denial here.
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>>32884421
I'm willing to see where you're going with the others, but Matt is about as black as it gets.
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>>32884421
Oras Brendan and Brock are the only ones who are tanned. Brock is arguable though

Phoebe being Polynesian is your headcanon. she looks black
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>>32884436

>"They are black because I said so!"

Team Aqua is tanned from spending so much time outside since they are pirates. A clear contrast from Team magma who are pale because they stay in caves. It's common sense.

>>32884473

>Wears Hawaiian clothing
>"Headcannon"

>Claimin a brown character is black isn't headcannon

Wew
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>>32884473
Do you even have sources that there black. All this stuff you claiming is also headcannon, don't say cuz they look black they can look hispanic for all I know
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>>32879100
Its funny and sad how that is literally every tumblrina's art ever.
>>32879104
Pretty much.
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>>32884473

>she looks black

Brown skin isn't a negro only trait. Also, she looks like Mallow to me I.e. not black.
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>>32883819
> excuse
sounds like an observation
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>>32884436
Literally has a tanline on his stomach. Same color as Marlon. And don't you think it's weird that they'd change the race of an entire team set in pokejapan after ten years?
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>>32884488
Ok if you want to think they are not black Ill not argue with you. Hispanic is not a race, not surprised that retards like you say that
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>>32884473

>She is black because I said so!!!
>Not headcannon
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>>32884473
It's not like GF ever explicitly states "and this character is the Pokemon world equivalent of a black person/Arab/etc." (with a few exceptions like Lenora I guess) so most of this race talk is pointless. I'm not saying that for instance a character like Elesa is black, mind you
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>>32884528
>Lenora
>black
she is clearly Okinawan or a Japanese person with a darker shade of skin
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>>32884521
Keep believing your own little fantasies/"headcanons " then. You say they can't be anything other than black yet show no evidence to support your claim. You're an hypocrite of the highest order.
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>>32884473

Gary is black too. There is nothing to prove that he is but he's black because I want him to be!
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>>32884543
Okinawans are not that dark and she lives in the states. I can understand being concerned about people trying to make everything black that isn't but she clearly is.
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>>32884558
I was being sarcastic, I find it funny how fan content can get Anon's little panties in a twist
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>>32884511
>observation
Sure, because hand-eye coordination affect your cognitive ability to learn the theoretical part of art as a whole.
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>>32884543
she is not black, she is hispanic
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>>32884606
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>>32884473
>>32884487
>>32884528
>>32884506

you are all cringey trying to discuss ethnicities in pokemon that is anime style and trying to force ohers believe you.
There's nothing that point they are polynesian, negro or mongoloid wtf. They can be as well mixed race or arab cause why not. Don't make difference, neither of you have substance to affirm anything,
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>>32884606
Wrong. She's arabic because I said so.
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>>32884543
there no black in pokemon world. Lenora is a tanned islander
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>>32881767
What does this have to do with su?
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>>32884524
>>She is is NOT black because I said so!!!
>>Not headcannon
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>>32879100
>going on tumblr/deviantart for bad fanart
That's fucking easy mode.
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>>32884637
Don't say bullshit. She is indian
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>>32879105 Isn't bad but it's bad if you think that's supposed to be flannery.
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>>32879117
There's a different between drawing Flannery with a different hairstyle and drawing a girl with an Afro and calling her Flannery.
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>>32884677
If she drawed Flannery with red dreads and a darker skin would be more beliviable
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>>32883362
Take your marxism whining to /pol/
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>>32879105
Who's the artist of this anyway? All I'm finding on Google are links to this thread on the archive and flower pots with red flowers in them
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>>32884670
Has there ever been an "Indian" character in Pokemon anyway?

Aside from Lenora, of course.
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>>32884688
The closest I can find is larvestart from Twitter, but apparently they changed their Twitter username long ago and I unfortunately can't find the source of their Flannery image.
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>>32884660
>Design clearly based on Polynesian/Hawaiian people
>Even wears traditional Hawaiian Clothing

Vs

>"She's black because I said so!!!!!!!"


You tell me which "headcannon" has more substance, nigger.
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>If they are brown they must be negros!

Are black posters really this dumb?
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>>32884751
Thanks Anon, I found it
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As a black man, I can say for sure that Mallow is a black girl. Anyone who disagrees with me is a racist. Everyone who denies this are headcannon makers!

I will also conveniently ignore the facts that she is paler than Kiawe or Olivia and that her design screams "Generic Hawaiian girl"!

My opinions are facts. Even if I told you that Alola was based on Africa and not Hawaii, you'll have to agree with me or else I'll label you as a racist shitsucker who doesn't belong here!
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>>32881528
The best thing about Tumblr is the porn.
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why do people on tumblr or the like think characters (in every series not just pokemon) canonically islander, Hispanic, south Asian, ect are black?
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>>32884632
>rants in broken English
>calls us cringey
I kek'd
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>>32884834
The porn there is horrible, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Doujin artists have spoiled me.
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>>32884863
No, some of the good artists have blogs on there, or do commissions. There are blogs in which people compile really good hentai images of porn gifs. There's also loads of really good guro on Tumblr.
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>>32884847
Because these people are most likely blacks themselves. Simple as that, they want to feel important and be cared for. If they truly wanted some representation they'd create their own culture, like India did with Bollywood and all the other stuff.
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>>32884877
>guro
At least you're not a vorefag
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>>32884847
It's a social justice thing for the most part. Like I'm sure some of it is people projecting/alternative universe/wanting to see their own traits on characters they like, but for whatever reason social justice stuff has gotten big in the past five years so showing you care about diversity has morphed I'm gonna draw this character as a different race/trans/whatever.
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>>32884910
Most of the artists who draw characters as trans etc. are queer and the ones that draw characters as black are usually African American themselves, from what I've seen

And the ones who draw characters as "chubby" are either fat, a fat fetishist or both
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>>32884877
The guro on Tumblr tends to be a lot more abstract and artistic, which makes it feel a lot more classy and tasteful. Plus, that infamous image of Cirno is from Tumblr.
>>32884906
No, sorry. I find that guro is made even more excellent when vore in incorporated.
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>>32884932
It's alright Anon, I don't see the appeal myself but I hope you have fun with your fetishes and continue to find quality images
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>>32884932
>that infamous image of Cirno
Say what now?
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>>32884781
Well they are niggers after all
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>>32882388
Why are you talking like including diversity in a worldbuilding is inherently good and necessary?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>
Why do we not have mods?
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>>32884888
>If they truly wanted some representation they'd create their own culture, like India did with Bollywood and all the other stuff.
We tried that, basically. When segregation was in full swing, black neighborhoods were the domain of black-owned businesses, and they flourished as best as they could under the circumstances. Large corporations realized that the color of your skin does not change the color of your cash, and moved in with their superior capital and lower prices and the black-owned businesses largely couldn't compete. As for media, it's damn hard to get a foothold in an already saturated market. Bollywood exists because India was largely a media vacuum despite a huge population, while trying to compete against American cinema in America is an ill-fated endeavor. People still try, though they don't get much exposure.

Even then, black culture has certainly evolved on its own and even found distinct footholds in American culture at large, particularly in music.
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>>32884993
Go to Encyclopedia Dramatica's page on Touhou.
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>>32885050
And food. I don't mean the fried chicken meme but a lot of American food staples, especially traditionally Southern food, is African American in origin dating back to the days of slavery

But I guess this isn't the place to have this discussion
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>>32885094
A lot of things changed for me when I found out the "lol blacks love watermelons" thing was born from a successful attempt to disenfranchise the roots of black business.
>Watermelons are African plants can grow in harsh conditions
>Slaves bring them over to America
>post slavery, black land owners would sell Watermelons for a profit
>white people saw this and got anally devastated
>started a smear campaign of "look at these dirty negros and their dirty watermelons!"
>it actually worked and now watermelon is used as a racist stereotype despite it essentially being a symbol of early black entrepreneurs
The same thing applies to chicken too, it's pretty depressing desu.
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>>32884888
because for sure black is a culture like india lmao
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>>32884827
it's quite easy to see who is north america here or not.
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>>32884698
i already said that Lenora is an islander, and not indian
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Blacks are entitled immature people.
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>>32882126
top jej
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>>32885014
Because it doesn't hurt to expand lore.

There's a fine line between diversity by choice and diversity by force. Nintendo IPs have been doing the former for years.
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>>32884827
>As a black man, I can say for sure that Mallow is a black girl

Mallow's family are Pacific Islanders that settled in Hawaii but aren't natives themselves. They could be Malay, Filipino or whatever. I base this on absolutely nothing.
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