ITT: Underrated sets

I hate how many retarded verlisfags are there on this board

>>32869708
Yeah sure, that would be a great set if Steel and Ghost types didn't exist.

>>32869708
And just like Typlosion Ambipom continues to be a mememon used by retards wich prevent him from dropping to a tier where it would actually be good.

>Meme Resort
>Assvest on frail attacker with no resistances nor recovery
I'd win way more fights by sticking to the standard set.

>>32869783
Typhlosion was banned from NU last gen, so karenfags that wanted to use it had to do so in RU.

>>32869708
just use fake out, king's rock fling and thief to meme the opponent before it dies.

>>32869708
If you really need to go dull retard at least go LO or Sashed

>>32869708
I remember i used that in the battle mansion

>>32869708
>opponent sent out any ghost type!

>>32869708
I think your forgot the last two moves, OP.

>>32869708
>Assault vest
Why not life orb? do you have any idea how much power you're throwing away just for a boost to its shitty special bulk?

Also, ghosts.

>>32870312
OP's memeset works on the idea that ambipom fakes you out turn 1 then proceeds to spam a 140 STAB move for as long as it can. If you had to use 3 moves instead of 1 before last resort, ambipom simply wouldn't survive long enough to do its thing.

>>32869708
>Ambipom (M)
it's okay everyone, OP's at least smart enough not to use a weaker female Ambipom

You are like a little baby, watch this!

Ambipom (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Double Hit
- Beat Up
- Snatch

>people see I'm leading with Ambipom, probably using a retarded set like OP's
>they sent out a ghost type
>defeat by 6 (or less) technician-boosted super effective hits
>Snatch any boosts from Mimikyu or Aegislash thinking I'll swap
This is a great lead, I use Snatch instead of Taunt because I face shit that sets up a lot but you can change it. Beat up also hits rocks and steel for neutral damage.

>>32871718
I remember you. You posted the replay snatching Swords Dance from Gliscor. It's cool but a bit risky for my taste.

This is the Ambipom set that I usually use.

Ambipom @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: Atk/Spd
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- U-Turn
- Return
- Thief

Lead with Fake-Out, and if it's a Pokemon that can't be knocked out with the follow-up Return, use U-turn to switch to A pokemon like Ferrothorn. Either that or switch to slow volt switcher like Probopass and set up another Fake-out round.

I like using Ambipom, but if you want to use it as well as you can, you basically have to build your team around it.

Guess I'll contribute...

Ambipom @ Normal Gem
Ability: Technician
Jolly Nature
EVs: Atk/Spd
- Fake Out
- U-turn
- Double Hit
- Acrobatics

This a set I made all the way back in X/Y. Basically if you want somebody else to have life orb you can use a normal gem, Z-move lite. If you yourself get flinched or can't connect with fake out turn one...normal gem boosted double hit does huge damage to pokemon uninvested in defense and that don't resist normal type. Acrobatics give more coverage/damage after using your gem. U-turn should be obvious.

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>>32869728
Same

My Qwilfish I use on rain teams (fucking no one sees it coming, they always think it's for hazards or some shit) also sometimes I put the poison z-crystal on it.

Qwilfish @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 92 HP / 252 Atk / 164 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Waterfall
- Poison Jab
- Explosion

Dusclops designed to be an Entei counter in UU. All of Entei's moves have low PP (Sacre Fire, Extreme Speed) or hurt Entei with nasty rtecoil (Flare blitz) or are totally irrelevant/filler (Bulldoze) This Dusclops counters Entei, especially choice Band, perfectly.

Dusclops @ Eviolite
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Spite
- Night Shade

>>32871718
>>32871969
What's the difference between using Double Hit or Return besides one can break sub/sash?

>>32872068
Somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe technician boosts double hit and not return. There still both STAB so it's just a matter of preference.

>>32872039
252+ Atk Choice Band Entei Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Dusclops: 118-141 (41.5 - 49.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

How is that an Entei counter if it gets BTFO before it can KO back, or just dies most of the time if sneaky pebbles is up? If you switch it into any other choice band move it'll be fine, but unless I'm missing something that's not a counter.

>>32872091
I remember hearing that max happiness STAB return still does more than Technician boosted STAB Double Hit, but I've never actually done the math before.

>>32872101
Yeah it's a matter of preference really, high damage or moderate 2 hits of damage.

>>32872101
35 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 2 = 157.5
102 * 1.5 = 153

Well, here's a set I've actually found quite useful. Yeah its a bit memeish, but it works great as my teams anchor:

Braviary w/leftovers
252 HP/252 atk/4 defense

Crush claw/return
Brave bird
Roost
Bulk up

Its a new set I've been experimenting with and it works surprisingly well as my teams secondary tank. What do you think, /vp/?

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>>32869708
Gallade (M)@ galladite
Evs:252 attack,252 speed, 4hp jolly
Bulk up/swords dance
Psycho cut
Drain punch(bulk up)/ close combat ( swords dance)
Knock off

>>32869708
Change assault vest and add the move substitute

Bam 2x better

>>32872096
Why can he not rest?

>>32872121
Of course, Double hit has an accuracy of 90%, while Return is 100%. I'd rather trade a tiny increase in base damage for reliable hits.

>>32874126
But Double Hit breaks through Sturdy/Sub/Focus Sash as well.

>>32872849
counters are things that can switch in and take hits still. dusclops would die after rocks and two sacred fires if it switched in.

>>32874165
Ambipom already deals with Focus sash/Sturdy with Fake-Out. The only thing it has over Return is Sub breaking.

Not really worth the trade in my book.