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So Much New Content Edition

>Official Pokémon Go Updates
http://pokemongolive.com/en

>Latest APK Update
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/niantic-inc/pokemon-go/pokemon-go-0-67-1-release/pokemon-go-0-67-1-android-apk-download/

>Databases
https://pokeassistant.com/
https://thesilphroad.com/
http://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/
https://pokemongohub.net/

>Pokéstop & Gym Maps
https://www.pokemongomap.info/
https://gymhuntr.com/
https://gymsear.ch/

>Evolution Calculator
http://pogotoolkit.com/

>Nest Atlas
https://thesilphroad.com/atlas

>Battle Advisor
http://tripledex.com/

>Combat Simulator
http://pokebattler.com/

>Best Moves & Movesets
https://pokemongohub.net/generation-2/pokemon-go-generation-1-updated-best-move-sets/
https://pokemongohub.net/generation-2/pokemon-go-generation-ii-best-movesets/
https://thesilphroad.com/pokemon-go-moves
http://www.pogomoves.com/index.php

>Best Attackers
https://pokeassistant.com/main/index?locale=en
http://i.imgur.com/NrQ6PlX.png

>Nest Migration Countdown Clocks
http://nestmigration.com/
http://kingpcs.com/pokemongotimer.html

>IV Checker Websites
https://pokeassistant.com/main/ivcalculator
https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/pokemongo-iv-calculator
https://thesilphroad.com/iv-rater

>IV Checker Apps
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tesmath.calcy&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.orangefish.app.pokemoniv&hl=en

>Trainer Level Speed Calculator
https://trainerlevelspeed.de/

>Pokédex Progress Chart Template
http://i.imgur.com/tYQ4CEe.png

>General Map Scanner
http://pokehuntr.com

>City Map Scanners
https://pastebin.com/7qwbmQA3

>Spoofing Guide
http://pastebin.com/HBuZnR72

>Master Decoding
http://pastebin.com/5upnQpSE


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YELLOW DEVIL
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1st for Venusaur cucking Vaporeon
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fuck you hanke
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>fight Blissey
>uses Hyper Beam
>knocks out first mon
>second mon pops out, dies instantly
>first mon pops back out at full health
>dies instantly again
>second mon pops back out at full health, doesn't die
>wastes 15 seconds on the timer
BRAVO
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To all the people asking about coins and gyms

>pic related
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spoofers need to be gassed
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>>32840377
Unsurprisingly that has been an issue since day 1
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I don't want to wait hours for my Hanke Bucks REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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FsuAtl here...

Just want to let you pathetic faggots know that you're all homos. Fuck y'all. Retards can't handle me. I know, y'all just jealous. But guess what? IDGAF! Stay off my duck for real. Keep my name out ya mouth. Stay outta my streams. Don't come to my chats. I don't care. Eff you and eff your buds. I don't care what you heard. Reports? LMAO!!! Niantic ain't gon do shit. I have unlimited accounts anyway. You can't stop me. You can't be me. Just give up. Get my nuts out ya mouth for once. Pathetic retards. Oh and your friend mystic is s bitch. Fuck him yo. Bitch ass faggot. Now go away.
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>>32840390
You'd think they'd have fixed it by now
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Worth evolving?
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>>32840396
>Stay off my duck for real

Chris?
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>>32840408
He must really love his Golduck
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This is Toto his my pet gator,he eats all the aardvarks and possums that fuck up my lawn at night.
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>>32840358
>francais
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>>32840403
>lvl 2
What IVcalc is that?
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I'll ask again, I got 250xp at my first few pokestops today. Was that a first time today or first time since the update bonus?
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>>32840396
pics or didn't happen, faggot
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>>32840384
>Haven't played this game since last winter
>Check out spoofing and botting still works perfectly

What did Nianac accomplish exactly? I still don't understand why they restricts people from playing in buses and subways
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>>32840421
IV Go
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WAIT

Can members of any team join a raid?
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>>32840440
Yes
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>>32840440
yes baka
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>>32840419
SLUTTY FRENCH INSTINCT GIRL GETTING IT IN THE BUM
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>>32840439
Aren't these IV checker apps risky? WHy not just use a webstie, seems safer than Niantic accidentally banning you or some retarded shit.
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2016
>Explore and capture Pokémon in the real world and have fun with Pokémon Go!
2017
>Walk eggs and watch as the new updates and autistic faggot cheaters ruin every gym system in the world of Pokémon Hacking Simulator!
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>>32840440
Yes
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>>32840449
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>tfw there's a Sprint gym on top of a restaurant I visit frequently
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What does the slash on my mon even do?
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>>32840390
I know. It's pretty fucked up for a game to have the same glitch for almost a year.
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Raids are live where I live (Australia) if anyone cares. Raid passes, Max revives and Max potions available in the store. I'm lvl 35 and have 'no nearby raids' in my raid tab while my friend is lvl 34 and it still says 'no raids for your lvl' or whatever.
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>>32840432
The accomplished a naughty finger wave at spoofers. Only this time the gyms are worse. I'm just going to get my daily spin and catch, maybe walk eggs and buddy candy and that's it. They took a dying game and gave spoofers a metal bat to finish it off.
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It was a good run
RIP

So like what the fuck? 3 am gym players are going to take all the spoils
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>>32840477
It means HANKE THE NIGGER KEK is coming for you anon. The only way to appease him is to rape his children invfront of his wife.
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>>32840361
This. Venusaur (even my shitty sub 80 Iv) has been fucking ridiculously high cp water types in their boipussies all day lads. Is he dare I say it? A viable option?
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Did they do away with battle animations? How can you tell if a hym's being attacked?
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>>32840500
Oh wow, the spoils of 1 to 6 gold. How thankful they should be.
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So IV's are basically useless now compared to high CP, right?
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>>32840500
git gud
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>>32840396
lets pull a /b/ here.

timestamp it, or your a liar.
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I love the update. it shows the worst players and how sad their existence really is. Like this Mystic cuck right her. When gyms went live not even a hour after they open this guy had Blissey's and Chansey's in almost all the gyms spots he took. After busfagging around the city this autistic had 48 gym spots with 27 3000+ Blissey's, 19 random CP Chansey's and 2 3400+ Tyranitars. I didnt even get to fully bussing around my city so he could even have more that I didnt see.
OH!

and he has a 2nd account with the exact same mons as well but it's a lvl 34 account.
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>>32840516
The opposite actually.
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>>32840528
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>>32840457
I won't claim to know how it goes, would I be at risk? I mean it doesn't alter gameplay, just reads data right?
Do these websites just show off the bat or do you need to input for a calc? I tried the old calc and it just way too long.
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>>32840528
> 2 accounts
> both have 27+ Blisseys, 19+ Chanseys, and 2+ Tyranitars
Either a NEET who plays this game too much, or a cheater. Which is it?
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>>32840534
36 lvl actually
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>>32840549
Cheater. No one has that kind of time on their hands... I think.
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>>32840506
Venu's always been a nice water counter, people just like Exeggutor since it does ore than just grass.

Also is Petal Blizzard or Solarbeam better?
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>>32840422
Update bonus. I got it too. Praise hanke.
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>Metal Coat and Electabro I got home

wtf I love Hanke now
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>>32840417
And this a Garto he kills the local ursaring that get too close to the house and scares way stary dogs while I play pogo.
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>>32840549
nah he spoofs his mons. before the update and back a few months this fag would take on the gyms at 3 in the morning and he was (and still is in) in a gym that was on private property that was only accessible via GPS joysticking
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>>32840417
What's his opinion on Furret?
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>>32840577
I know a few like that, there is a park that is inaccessible after hours and fucking spooffags would always take it after close. I reported the people that did it but those accounts are still active because Niantic doesn't give a shit.
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>>32840579
he says if he catches him in the yard again he'll eat his feet but other wise he's ok.
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>20 coins in 10 hours

awesome, in some years I will be able to buy 1 (one) incubator
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>>32840564
Aww, I was hoping for a bonus 200 every time I hit a bogeystop for the first time that day.

>>32840543
I thought they didn't like any 3rd party apps. That and >allowing an app access to record your screen in the year of our lord 2000+17
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>>32840603
Do you have a girlfriend?
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So has Gary just been getting berries fed to him like the hedonist he is, or is this not a live feed of their motivation?
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>>32840606

Just give me your money already
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>>32840609
Is this a proposition ?
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>>32840625
Only if you give me your son's boipussy.
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>>32840591
>>32840577
For reals? I thought Niantic was cracking down on this. Meanwhile I can't collect stops while on a bus.
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>>32840609
Depends ,Are you a French girl?
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I finally decided to try and do a lil spoofing, seeing as a gym and pokestop are just out of reach of my bedroom, but I finally began to think of doing it, the most recent android security app disabled it from working. welp.
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>Not "New Gyms Are Fucking Garbage" Edition

Missed on that one op.
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>>32840358
sauce plz
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>>32840616
There is a live feed, so yes.
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>>32840660
good
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>>32840607
they don't, but I wonder how they would catch me. Not like I'm teleporting across the globe or using a special .apk. Your other point is quite reasonable though.
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>>32840346
is there any confirmation where raids will be held during their public release? will they only be in select cities or will they be at random everywhere?
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Can you still spoof on iOS?If Hanke is going to cheat me, I should do the same.
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>>32840403
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>>32840616
>The Rock Bible Based Church
That's pretty rad, my dude.
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So how are you supposed to collect coins if you're in a city? None of my gyms last more than an hour, especially for Instinct.
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>>32840694

There's always the store goyim :^)
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>>32840694
very slowly
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>>32840694
lmao ruralfags kingz now
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>>32840671
It's not fair, this same Mystic team Spoofs the entire town while a valor team spoofs all of route 9
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>>32840679

Yes and we already reported a spoofie nigger who streamed a live raid on GookTube in the previous thread
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>>32840694
Pull out your credit card and purchase hanke coins. Instinct pays twice the price.
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>>32840457
>>32840607
I'm still using it. As >>32840543 stated, it doesn't directly affect gameplay.
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>>32840709

>Instinct pays double the price

WHAT THE FUCK?
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>>32840694
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>>32840678
The only oinfo we have is that the first raids will appear in sponsored pokestops
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>>32840717
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>>32840694
>Get a squad
>Go Put full 6 pokemon at once
>wait for a while and keep them feed
This works for me.
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>>32840766
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>>32840579
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>>32840795
OH MY GOD, FURRET IS JUST SO CUTE I WANT THEM ALL
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Why the fuck do you need to kill a single Monster 4 or 5 times that's holding a gym by itself? Waste of time.
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>>32840800
Yeah it was totally better fighting through 10 mons multiple times to knock out a couple of mons.
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>>32840795
>new girl joins my city discord
>her avatar is a drawn furret
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Just got back from an evening walk and the same old spoofer is a holding down the new gyms like nothing else changed with his multi accounts... Great. Why did I even start playing mobile games in the first place...
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>>32840804
I'm talking about a single Monster in that single gym you stupid nigger that can't read you have to beat that fucker like 5 times which is such a waste of time


The old system seems even better now especially with the coin Gainage...
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>>32840822
I actualy like this change.
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>>32840828
How many coins have you earned today dedicating your time for items to participate in Gym Battles?
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Is this thing broken? This dps is the worst, why is it saying it's the most optimal?
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>>32840828
Yeah great change. How many coins have you accumulated since gyms went live?
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I just dont get why the battles cant be turn based, with 4 moves, and the pokemon you place in the gym just acts like a normal trainer NPC pokemon from the actual games.
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>>32840800
>Why the fuck do you need to kill a single Monster 4 or 5 times that's holding a gym by itself?
It's the only way to roll
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>>32840822

Not to mention if the trainer is camping nearby or spoofing, he can just heal it right up after those battles.
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>>32840832
4 or 5 ?
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>>32840798
Toto says that's too
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what are gym points and why do I give a fuck?
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>>32840842
you are like small child, watch this
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>>32840850
I'll bet that Furret's got a big pecker. :^)
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>>32840570
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>>32840835
Oh shit anon Small World? But yeah that guy is a complete fucking idiot missing the point. with more waste of time involving gym battling one or two or three mons, spoofers are still around, way way less coins than before, and daily have to visit gyms if no one else is helping you, I think I'm done with this game, I don't even want a zapados or khangaskhan anymore... Thanks niantic.
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Does anyone know the max amount of coins you can get at once? I assume it doesn't just stop after 10 hours
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>>32840887
100 a day. One Pokemon in one gym for 10 hours gets you 10.
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>>32840899
That is fucking retarded.
I'm okay with the cap limit for a day, but if your mon stays in for 30 hours, you should get 30 coins.
Fuck you Hanke, I will be doing voodoo magic tonight so that your wife gets raped by several Koreans and you are forced to raise the next Elliot Rodger like the good cuck you are.
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>>32840899
>10 coins per gym in 20 hours
>1 coin be gym per hour
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>>32840908
Be thankful you're on a team / in an area where you have any hope of keeping mons in gyms for over an hour, entitled little child.
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>>32840836
It would take literal hours to take down a gym
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>>32840839
That just happened to me I took out a gym with three mons and some guy on a different team waited till I left a church and then killed my Mon and added his... but I noticed my phone and waited across the street and watched as no one showed up and my monster was replaced. At this point I don't even want to spoof... thank God the update dropped today because it made me realize why I am even playing this game, there is no reason it is not even a fun rat race.. good luck with this game guys, I'm out.
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>>32840868
Watch what you fucking idiot? You running around for hours just to collect 10 coins? Later, have fun. I am not going through o Lazy incompetent Niantic nigger hoops and Ladders just to get a Zapados this summer, if they even come out... Enjoy your random shit IVs from raids. I'm sure that will keep you playing. Adios amigos it was fun.
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I'm wondering how much player numbers are going to drop after this update.
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>>32840932
It was a meme you dip. Lurk more tismo.
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>>32840937

a lot, let's hope is enough for Niantic to roll back or at least attempts to fix the coin changes.
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>>32840941

>i was just pretending u gays le xd

kys
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Any way to spoof using an emulator on PC? There's a single gym and a single pokestop nearby and nothing else and my android is 7.0 and apparently a model that can't be rooted. :/
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I literally have no hope of collecting coins this way. I barely had 15 mins to sweep 3 gyms and get 3 coins before they start falling. This might be it for me.
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>>32840941
I meme that you only understand you fucking retard do I have to be a wannabe weeabbo like you to understand it?
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>>32840943
Or Nintendo fires and replace them like they should have done months ago... can't wait to hear about them in the news fucking up future generations of Pokemons and future gym and PVP designs. Enjoy! -Niantic
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>>32840832
>>32840842
>>32840868
>>32840932
>>32840941
>>32840949
>>32840956

This fucking place sometimes...
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>>32840932
>>32840949
>>32840956
loling @ u
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If you poor bastards are so concerned about coins, you should be trying to get better jobs instead of complaining that you may have to spend $10 on a video game. I like the new gym system and look forward to raids.
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>>32840985
Hi Hanke!
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>>32840985
I didn't know Hanke could make you a a shuckle spending cuck so easily, wonder what he will force you to spend money on the next new bs item in the shop ? Berries? Oxygen?
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>>32840865
Help
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>>32840908
...it works exactly like that you dolt. The limit is just on total coins per day. If your pokemon is in for 100 hours, you get 100 coins. If you have 5 return after beimg i 20 hrs, you get 100 coins.

The issue is if in that same day you have another mon come back when it had coins to give you, you dont get them because you already got 100 today.
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This game is going to die even before the Chicago event LOL! At least it lasted a year, ish.
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what happens when you level up a gym badge?
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first for simpsonsposting

pic related, how I feel about the new gym system
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>>32840985
Sup Hanke, but seriously though, this basically ensures certain teams in certain areas can't collect coins.
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>>32841014
Just like how it died 5 months ago am-i-right?
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>>32841019
Not much different than it was, then.
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>>32841015
You get more items from that gym when spinning.
No badge is 2, unlike usual stop of 3. +1 per badge rank and +1 if you team has the gym.
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>>32841020
Why don't you ask Niantic about their continually slumping sales? Oh they don't want to discuss those figures with you? Maybe by the end of the summer they'll sell you the option to spoof legally?
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RAIDS REPORTS:
You can get TMs from 3+ leveled raids
Raid bosses IVs work the same way as egg hatches
For magikarp (lvl1) user get: A rare candy and 3 golden razz
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>>32841027
Fuck you talking about? Just sweep a few, collect your coins, who cares if they fall in 30 mins. What aren't you getting?
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>>32841032
desu is there a record of slumping sales? I'm sure it's lower now than it was last summer, but that's not a fair comparison.
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>>32841035
Raids have level difficulties? What are the ranks?
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>>32841038
Enough coins for my time and effort for a basic tasks of the game
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Fag here...

Just want to let you pathetic faggots know that you're all homos. Fuck y'all. Retards can't handle me. I know, y'all just jealous. But guess what? IDGAF! Stay off my duck for real. Keep my name out ya mouth. Stay outta my streams. Don't come to my chats. I don't care. Eff you and eff your buds. I don't care what you heard. Reports? LMAO!!! Niantic ain't gon do shit. I have unlimited accounts anyway. You can't stop me. You can't be me. Just give up. Get my nuts out ya mouth for once. Pathetic retards. Oh and your friend mystic is s bitch. Fuck him yo. Bitch ass faggot. Now go away.
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>>32841038
>collect your coins
bruh
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>>32841019
Give it some time. Everyone is out right now trying out the new system, and the people who were able to hold 7+ gyms a day are scrambling trying to reclaim what they "lost".

I have feelimg people will figure out the optimal timing to hit gyms so it isnt 5 battles all the way through. Of course just like the old system, if your town is plauged by spoofers/bots you are boned.
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>>32841040
I hope bots and spoofers are keeping the sales up I just hope...
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>>32841049
This copy pasta won't get old fast.
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Lets say my pokemon sits on a gym for 24 hours,do I get 24 coins in the event he comes back? What if he doesn't come back?
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>>32841032
Pics or your arguement has no basis.

Also nice moving the goal posts. There are several game out there that have servers running that the company basicallu makes no money on like battlefield bad company.
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So what was your Net income today /ppg?

Only got to 20 Coins exactly. Kinda disapointing but hopefully they can increase how much you earn per hour. 5 would be great
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OK, what's going on here. I'm trying to take a gym down my street, and every time I knock the team down about 400CP or so, it's immediately rejuvenated by the time I start the next match. What the fuck is happening? Earlier, I tried to berry up my own gym when it was being attacked, and it wouldn't let me, so what's going on here?

To make matters worse, there's no one around the gym, so I guess this is some spooffag.

>>32841053
dope
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>>32841072
0
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>>32841038
>just go single handedly kill 10 blisseys, put your mon in and get your 10 coins

Yeah, it's the same shit man.
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>>32841066
You get 24 coins. The limit is on daily earning just like before (100 per day). In order for him to leave completely though, he has to lose in battle, just like before.
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>>32841049
>"You can't be me"
>wanting to be a wigger
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>>32841072
None, gyms didn't last an hour.
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>>32841072
4 dollarydoos. I've still got cunts in gyms, turns out those fuckers are holding and people are feeding them. Fuck everything
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>>32841072
3 so far. One still farming at 7 hrs and counting. Averaged 20 before so not much off
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>>32841072

20 coins as well, I still have 6 pokemons in gyms tho.
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>>32841080
If it's a single Blissey you only had to defeat it once, move on to next one, once I hit four I would collect. My gyms don't last an hour but before it didn't matter.
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>>32841083
>uses quotation marks while greentexting
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What's a good spoofing app for Android? I'm on 7.0 I believe if that helps
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>>32841080
Shit like was a huge reason why gyms had to be redone.
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>>32841094
Where the fuck are you that single mon gyms existed for more than 30 seconds
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>>32841093
Fuck you. I had make a spoofing account tonight to feed my level 40 fortress i put in an all american shithole called atlantic city
>tfw in atlantic city for business
>too vanilla to cheat on my gf
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>>32841105
Not them, but like they'd tell and draw in the spoofing fucks from here
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>>32841100
>7.0 I

Anon...
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>>32841072
9 coins + one gym that I've held for 10 hours. So effectively 19 coins. Gonna grab a bunch of gyms in town at 3am.
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>>32841083
Forgot to mention
DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY RACE?
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Guys, I'm nervous as fuck. I took a break from this game between Novermber to March. For legendary raid passes, it says "hose who were very active in the gym system to give them a chance at catching legendary Pokemon at a later date."
I'm still only level 30 but have 5 Lucky Eggs left. I fought many gyms and accrued enough coinage for 400 box space and 500 bag space. Tonight, I got 14 badges and many of them I still have possession of the gyms. Will I make the cut?
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So how is this gym system improved?

There's less spaces so less people can be in the same gym, you have to maintain the gyms more and give your pokemon berries and shit.

You get less coins for it too, all while spoofers are uneffected.
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>>32841072
2. Is everyone with gyms sticking for a while in busy areas or in low traffic gyms?
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>>32841121

>So how is this gym system improved?

It improved hanke's wallet
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>wake up to the notification of Pokemon having returned from gyms
>it's just my Snorlax from nearby with 6 coins, at 16 now
>been holding seven more gyms for 10 hours now

Feels good man, but I gotta get out soon to reclaim the turf in view distance.
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>>32841121
If you can hole a gym for longer than 10 hours your coin gain only goes up. What aren't you faggots getting about this?
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>>32841121
Rotation is easier so camping gyms are harder. Spoofers are cheaters of the system, so they always get to slither by the drawbacks.
Additionally you can't have the same mon in the gym to prevent maximum tierwhoring the whole gym.
Also, the fact that they're stops, CP deteriorates, and gym badges are earned regardless of fighting means everyone can participate in them much more instead of getting stalled out by 2.5k CP Blisseys.
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>>32841118
Only lv 35 and above for now
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>>32841149
That's for participating in raids, but have Lvl 35 players been given legendary passes? Are legendary raids active now as well?
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>>32841150
No legendary raids yet. They probably want to make sure normal raids work before even attempting to tackle those.
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>>32841121
Spoofers are affected if they dont 24/7 play and fly to their gyms giving berries each time. Even then, the super obscure gyms never get battled so omce they reach max coins, the pokes are trapped in their until taken down with no reward.

Bots are the ones unaffected.

Id say for the non-exploit crowd, it keeps everyone on the same low coin income. No groups of high level players dominating entire cities (moderate size ones at least) since the cut in overall spaces makes them fight each other more. Instant space also makes it easier for people to just hop in too, no training needed (and no 'training range' mons taking up storage). Beyond that, its much more difficult to shave mons out now since it requires more battles. If a gym is built well (tank first to protect those behind) shaving will make most gyms far weaker overall.
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>>32841155
Fair, so the legend passes haven't been given out yet?
Thanks
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Say I accrue a total of 100 coins for day 1 with all my pokemon still in the gym. When day 2 rolls around will they collect more before returning to me, or will it not count because I never received the day 1 coins during day 1?
If that was too confusing phrasing, will coins be considered officially collected by game code before or after they reach my wallet?
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>>32841159
>the pokes are trapped in their until taken down with no reward.

This is the worst. I live in a suburb where 90% of the "players" in the gyms are multi-account spoofers. I can get into said gyms, sure, but nobody's battling them so I can't do anything.
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is motivation loss per minute higher for higher cp pokemon?

i'm wondering if it's worth now evolving my second bliss and powering her fat ass up to level 37
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>>32841171
Coins only come to you when the pokes who earned them leave the gym. If you had, say, 10 gyms held for 10 hrs day 1, you get no coins. Its only when you pokemon fully loses motivation meter AND THEN loses a battle does it return to you with coins if it earned any.

If for whatever reason the above scenario plays out another 10 hrs, but immdiately after all your gyms go down, you only get 100 coins, despite having 200 hrs worth of defense because the daily limit is still 100 coins.
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>>32841136
>If you can hole a gym for longer than 10 hours
By doing what, camping at one place for hours feeding berries, or just living somewhere with few players?
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>>32841159
>>32841175

How do you know you get no coins if the demotivate naturally out of a gym? has there even been enough time today for that to even happen to one yet?
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>>32841185
Ohhh.... that sucks then.
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>>32841180
Yes, it is percentage based.
Source, my 17 cp krabby lost no CP over the course of 10 min when others in the same gym did.

CP is not much a factor anymore, but it does make the battle against them slightly harder, since all the HP amd ATK stat increases defending pokes had are now gone.
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>>32841187
That was a glitch.
One of mine came back after starving to death and I got coin.
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I don't mind the Motivation meme. The point of it for me is to exercise, and I'm already adding km going back to feed berries at the end of the day. As far as the hankebux payout/reward system goes, fuck you hanke
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>fight blissey for what feels like forever and take the gym it was in for myself
>stay there for an hour just collecting nearby pokestop items
>eventually the gym I'm in gains a new defender
>think it'll probably be fine to go home now since nothing has happened
>as soon as I go home my pokemon is returned
>walk back over to the gym a while later to see it full of my team's defenders but my pokemon is gone
>it's full so I can't place my pokemon in it

Did my own team kick me out of the gym somehow? Is that possible? Or is it more likely that the gym was beaten by an enemy team then a group of my team took it back?
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>>32841180

yep, 3k pokemons drop faster than 2k+ pokemons, aren't you glad you leveled up and worked hard to power up your pokemons?
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>>32841187
Yes. When the CP of a mon is red, its motivation is at 0. It will still sit in the gym until it loses the next battle.
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>>32841212
Oh, well that's stupid. If it starves it should be sent home.
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>>32841207
ya dun got spoof'd
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>>32841207
Welcome to multi accounting. They can easily just fight your poke, then leave and repeat to fuck your meter over.
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>>32841207
If the new defender is still there, you probably got shaved out. If both you and the new defender were removed, then either an enemy team or shavers took you two both out, then new players filled the gym up.
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>>32841217
And it will...once it gets beaten.

This is literally the same as the last system, in that mons CAN rot away in gyms that dont get fought.
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>>32841207
>>32841221
>>32841223
Yet another reason why Spoofing is heinous.
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>see nearby gym
>try to take it on
>first 'mon is Gyarados, so I lead with Jolteon
>take it down with 70 seconds to spare
>both my and his HP start rubber-banding
>he eventually stops attacking
>network error
>network error
>network error
>network error
>6 seconds left
>game finally normalizes
>he has less than 10% HP left
>my Jolteon faints
>my Vaporeon faints
>my Rhydon faints
>constantly switches between the three for the next 20 seconds
>times up
>all three are fainted
>didn't put a dent in the gym

I guess Niantic didn't think this game was unplayable enough.
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>>32841234
Right, but you could just hit the collect button the receive your reward. If the reward is to be collected upon the mon expiring, why not send it the fuck home when it starves?

Again, that part is stupid. So far I like everything else.
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>>32841136
Because in most active communities, the turnover rate is high. In the old system, you grabbed as many gyms as you could and then cashed out. Now, you need to wait hours to get a fraction of the same amount you used to get.

If you live in a dead community, then great. Your mon will be in there forever. But that also means you don't know when you'll have coins since you actually depend on someone from another team to bring it down.

This gym update made it a huge hassle to earn cons regardless if the player community is active or dead, those who benefit the most will probably those who cna reclaim gyms during the week and then reap the rewards when people play during the weekend, but that's about it.

I had hoarded some coins before this update though, so I have already maxed out my bag again and still have plenty left for incubators, but since the coin revenue is abysmal now, I'll return to my old habit of only using incubators for 10 km eggs.
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>>32841207
Multi accounting has been nerfed to an extent, but yes it's still possible, just harder.
It works similarly in that you remove one Pokémon from the (now) 6 spaces through a different account, but now you have to wait ~20 minutes to put something back in due to a message that says "your gym is under attack! Come back later" giving the kicked mon a chance to come back. But that sucks.
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>>32841236
Multi accounting isnt spoofing, but its still abusing the system. They just have 2 email addresses and log out to switch over. Literally the whole reason shaving is an issue.

Spoofing is just people cheating but not actually being where their GPS says they are. Anything after that is a different matter.
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Who here /legendary/? Caught this little bastard and my goodness was it a tough son of a bitch
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Just to be clear, If I'm fighting a gym and someone walks buy and feeds all the pokemon berries, that heals them in real time?
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>>32841253
>that's not even the current screen layout

0/10
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>>32841242
Because it can still earn coins while hungry.

If a mon reaches minimum motivation at 2am but gets sent home at 8am, it still collected coins for 6 extra hours.
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>>32841245
But before every gym was filled to the top with 36+ spoofers and it was impossible to get into any gym, while they cashed in every day.
Atleast with the species cap it gives it more variety.
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>>32841259
Fair point. There has to be some kind of middle ground here though. Who cares how many coins it gains once you hit the cap and it never comes home for whatever reason.
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>>32841266
Just make the 'mon come back fully healed after 10 hours. There's nothing to gain holding it longer than that.
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>>32841254
Can't give pokemon berries while someone is attacking the gym
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>>32841242
Niantic took several steps before to help gyms not just stay one team. Increasing prestige lost/gained by using smaller CP mons was the first time.

Gyms can still sit 1 team for a bit, but the thought is now even solo players will see the motivation is low enough to see its worth it to only have to fight 6 pokes 1 or 2 times each. The old way every solo guy whould just say "fuck that" and move on. Now they eventually get low enough that people will attack them.

The "set timer to collect" issue also made a caste of people who effectively ran towns, even without exploits. Now every one of them are also getting less coins per time spent playing, so it evens the field more.
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>>32841275
100hours*
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>>32841275
The reason is that you can still get coins after 10 hours. The proper time would be 100 hours since thats the daily cap, still.

Anything beyond 10 hours in is better than the old system on a per pokemon basis.
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>go to take a gym
>there's a guy there
>beat the gym
>gives me badges for defeating his six mons
Guys is autism contagious?
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>>32841297
Ninja'd
>>32841287
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>>32841297
I thought Pokemon could only get up to 10 coins each. Can one Pokemon really come back with 100 coins?
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>>32841298
I don't think so...
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>>32841266
Wouldnt that help to a degree agajnst spoofers though? If they have multiple accounts then the point is null, but trapping their mons in places people cant actually go (demilitarized zone) seems fine.

Really the only honest players it affects are those in super rural areas, which could be an issue.
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>>32841311
THE DAILY LIMIT IS 100. POKEMON GET 1 COIN PER HOUR.


READ THE DAMN THREAD. ITS BEEN SAID MANY TIMES NOW.

Fuck man.
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Of the 3 IV checkers in the OP, which is generally the best/most accurate?
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>>32841311
24 coins for 24 hours my man. You'd need 4 mons to be untouched for a day, and then one more for four hours. The fastest way is to get 20 gyms and wait 5 hours, much safer and likely you'll get the coins. I'm just taking over my town while everyone sleeps.
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Just went to check the gym,someone's been feeding my blissey for me and the gym is filled with the same except gym shitting pokes.
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>>32841349
I get the feeling we are going to see a sweet spot for gym turnover. Having a couple "forever gyms" was good in the old system, but now you might have more hours spent than the coins you get, and having that one come back just fucked the rest of your earners that day who return. Also 20 in 5 hours is not doable in a lot of areas, wether it be number of gyms or number of players per volume.

At least for my city, i feel like if you some how manage 60-80 a day you'll be doing pretty hot, but only the really active (or most bots feeding/picking when ripe) will get there
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My town has about 13 Gyms and is completely dominated by Instinct, mainly because all the taxi drivers in town play regularly and all picked the same team. So obviously all the gyms are back to being maxed-out Instinct gyms with the same mons as before, and I have absolutely no incentive to take them down; I'm the only active Mystic player in town, and Valor has two semi-active players left who usually don't bother with gyms, so I'd be fighting gyms on my own for no reward (Valor and Mystic gyms never last more than 30 minutes here, ever. No exceptions. Not even at 3am).

But you know what the best part is? The best way for me to fight back against Instinct is to not fight back at all. If I don't knock their mons out of gyms, they don't get any coins; their defenders are stuck there doing nothing for them, aside from building up a coin reward that they only receive when I feel like letting them have it. Sure, I don't get any coins either this way, but it's not like I would get them anyway with the current system.

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
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>>32841363
People havent learned yet. It seems the cp loss over time and by battles is % based, so honestly lower CP mons are more item efficient (as far as healing goes).

Since everything leaves the gym in like 5 fights anyway, 'high teir' pokes just make the individual battles slightly more annoying. They nerfed the crap out of bonus HP/damage defenders got, so blissey isnt too great anymore. Even no dodging i took out a 2600 one on about 50s with alakazam (2461).
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>>32841382
They come back after a certain amount of time.
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>>32841382
So long as njantic doesnt add this "recall button" people want or they figure out they can make new accounts, sure.

If so, just make a new account for yellow and trade over your pokes once thats a thing.
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>3000+ gets ubercucked
>anything below is fine
My army of 2600 Vaporeons are ready
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>>32841388
Read the fucking thread.
>>32841259
>>32841245
>>32841234
>>32841212
>>32841185
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>>32841388
How long?
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>>32841382
>taxi driver gang
>Instinct

Had a tiny giggle
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>>32841399
Here
>>32841398
They dont come back until beaten, just like before. Only change is at 0 motivation, its just 1 battle.
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>that 20cp ivysaur near my house is still in the gym 12 hours later
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leave blisseys fat pink fairy pussy to me.
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>>32841385
No one cares about efficiency when bots and spoofers feed all mons in gyms 24/7,it's a logistics war now
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Spoofers actually won
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>tfw 1500 item bag

Nice. Not sure if I even need to buy more Pokemon slots if they were to expand upon that too since keeping prestigers is pointless now. Gonna hold off transferring them because I want to see if this update gets adjusted later down the road (maybe defending mons lose more motivation if the attacker's CP is similar), but I doubt it. Hoarding mons for lucky egg hauls also isn't a big concern for me since I'm currently Lv 36 and there are no particular benefits for reaching the higher levels apart from marginally higher CP mons to attack with, high CP defenders aren't as crucial since they'll lose motivation anyway so only their first battle will be tough.
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>>32841440
>he thought spoofers weren't gonna win
>again
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>Trainer club account is still down
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>>32841440
I like Pokémon as much as the next person but the weather in my hometown stayed above 3 digits from midday till sundown. People aren't going to go walk. I was lucky enough to have collected my pokemons a while back during winter.

I mostly just sit by a gym and smoke a joint or cigg, but for anyone trying to get back into its either spoof, have your shitmons get pussy wrecked or melt your balls off trying to hatch/catch something worthwhile.
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>>32841348
>IV
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>>32841463
Yes, IVs are still relevant
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what level do you have to be for raids
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>>32841501
30
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>>32841501
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>>32841501
25 you just have to taste hankes special sausage.
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>Literally no way to hold a gym unless you spoof now

Bravo Hanke
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>>32841525
You would think he would really care about his own game.
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>>32840444
Trips confirm
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New player here, how the fuck do I get to level 30? Took me all fucking Day to go from 22 > 23.
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>Put a 2.5k mon in a gym
>Instantly loses 200cp

What is the point?
This update is trash, literally all graphics and no thought into gameplay.
Gym bugs are even worse than before
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>forcing cooperative gameplay on a mostly dead game

What the fuck were they thinking??? Someone please explain this to me. It's like they don't realize their players are literally made fun of for still playing the game. Now they expect us to find more people to play with?
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>>32841540
Walk through a major city with a lucky egg on and catch everything,then mass evolve and hatch eggs at the same time.
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>>32841543
You do know they don't enter the gym with full cp, right?
They don't "lose it"
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>>32841549
>they don't lose it, they just don't have it
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>>32841540
Mass evolve + lucky eggs during double exp events. You're already level 23 though. It's not like CP really matters with the current gym system.
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>>32840346
This thing is shit. I am sad.
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>>32841545
You can play with the other losers anon it's ok or you could be a school teacher and go on field trips to take gyms with your class in a zerg.
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>>32841534
Of course he does. Because he's a spoofer.
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>31k XP away from level 35
>only 25 evolutions ready

Should I do it lads?
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>>32841543
>What is the point?
You can feed it for FREE gym badge points. I think that was the point.
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>>32841566
Given the coin shortage, nope.
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>>32841566
no, have patience and catch some shit
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>tfw they thought i would improve this game
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>6 spots per gym
whats the point?
every gym within sight was filled with the same spoofers that I saw playing 5 months ago before I had a chance to try anything out
and now it notifies them when their mon drops so they'll just pop it back in instantly anyway
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>>32841415
This guy is incredibly good now

Plowed through a TTar and Snorlax barely wasting any potions on him. C/EQ tho.
Same for Ursaring.
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>>32841595
wow its almost like the combat system is a glorified finger exercise and there is no challenge to beating anything
wow wow wow
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>Still tap and swipe battle 'system'
>Gym bugs worse than before
>Gym sniping is back
>No more training for gym spots, first come first serve
>Cp now almost irrelevant
>Players getting punished for having high CP mons through ridiculous CP decay rate
>Cant hold a gym unless you spoof
>Reduced coins for almost everybody because Jew tricks

Holy fuck they actually spent months developing this piece of shit update
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I made 7 coins just in one gym.

M-,maybe it ain't so bad as long you keep getting the gyms.
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>>32841595
Potions are now something you don't need to stock up on. Took down all gyms without even fully healing my attackers since a simple Revive was enough for the most part. The first round is the toughest, but once their CP drops, it all becomes much easier.

Gyms takes time. Resources, not as much.
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What the hell are Gym points? the little bar under the gym badge??
What does it do?
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>>32841599
Wasn't it always like that?
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>>32841619
yes, I wasn't saying otherwise
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has anyone determined exactly what happens when you beat a mon?

does its level drop by 1 or something?
0.5?

the note just say they 'lose CP' which is god damn pants on head hanke because CP doesnt affect anything
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>>32841606
>they spent months working on this instead of working on trading, pvp or actual new content

fucking hold me anon
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>>32841566
if you don't have sponsored gyms your screwed
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>>32841616
Agreed, it's actually manageable in less than 30 minutes as opposed to the previous system that could take hours. This actually benefits players that go solom
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So are prestigers worthless now?

I found that with a team half the CP of the defender there was no change in motivation lost after a battle.

Hoewever, I did notice that the last battle took away double. Not sure if its a visual glitch or not.

What do you think? Transfer prestigers?
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>>32841628

It depends on how high the enemies CP is. Sometimes they lose 300-400cp if beaten. Sometimes its 100ish.
Just going by personal experience
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>>32840703
It's okay anon, at least you're not a Mystic player getting constantly cucked by Instinct
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>>32841606
>>Gym sniping is back
huh?
they never removed it

>Cp now almost irrelevant
>Players getting punished for having high CP mons through ridiculous CP decay rate
CP is fucking stupid anyway
ordering by CP was retarded, I'm glad thats fixed
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>>32841638
The last battle will always take out the remaining 900-800 CP no matter what. So yeah, they're pretty much useless now. I'd hold on to them, in case Niantic realizes how shit the new update it.
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>>32841645
but that means absolutely nothing by itself
CP does not affect anything
its an output meant to measure the mons stats

if CP is reduced it is because the stats were reduced, or level has been scaled down (which is part of the CP formula)

so what is actually most likely happening is the mon loses levels when beaten or motivation drops, I'm just wondering how much

alternatively they lose amounts from their base stats, but I would think that levels would be more intuitive
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>>32841638
If you're hurting for free space, transfer them. Otherwise, there's no rush. Watch the new meta develop before making permanent decisions.
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>>32841662
>Watch the new meta develop
or you can make it yourself
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pre-update
>on average, gyms full of ~8 spoofers, ~2 legit players
>difficult to get a gym spot
>the spoofers team-cheat and knock out the last mon to get spots anyway

>post-update
>instead of 10 spots being fought over, its now 6 spots being fought over
>now even more competitive to get a gym spot
>(team-cheating is gone which is good)
>(order system is fixed which is good)
>apparently some stops were converted to gyms but nothing within vision of me changed

? ? ?

do you get anything besides coins from gyms now anyway?
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>>32841670
its not competition to get a gym spot, it's luck
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>>32841670
pain and regret for playing this game
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>>32841670
>team cheating is gone
Oh you poor fool.
Gyms potentially hold raids which, you need passes to play, and which you can buy in the shop, which right now seems like they give the best items around. Rare candies, TMs, among potentially legendary or really powerful Pokémon.
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So best defenders now are basically just raw defense stats? Damage is negligible with how the CP gets lower and with how you can buy potions and revives if you really wanted to. Only resource to use/stall/waste is attackers time.

Every gym will likely be: Blissey/Chansey/Snorlax/Steelix/Umbreon/Lapras

That is assuming everyone catches on.
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>>32841670
>>32841675
>>32841677
>>32841678


wait it just occurred to me that team-cheating isnt even gone, I don't know why I thought that

there really needs to be more to the game than just 'gotta catch em all'
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>>32841683
I bought an account off ebay that I will be using to shave a spot in any full gyms I find.

Just fight the first pkmn and leave over and over.
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>>32841679
>Umbreon
hot damn finally
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>>32841509
>>32841514
Which is it
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>>32841692
35 as of now.
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>>32841689
>I bought an account off ebay
Wow, you're retarded.
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>>32841696
7 bucks for a level 38 account with no slashed pokemon thats my team is more than worth it so i dont have to bother with setting up my bots again.
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>>32841695
How are you supposed to take part if you aren't highly autistic what the fuck
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>>32841705
it's in beta test right now, that's how people are playing. level 35 can try it.

it will be rolled out to everyone soonTM. To be honest, IF they make a level cap, its probably going to be something simple like 10, 20 at the absolute maximum and even then I would be astonished.
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Wow, my area is on lockdown already. I have 13 defenders for 12 hours already.
Also, one of my badges turned bronze over night, what gives?
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Has anyone found a raid after dark? I've been watching Jonno hunt for hours and he hasn't found shit.
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>>32841679
>steelix

I know he has high def, but isn't his HP too fucking low, and also type weaknesess?

How about treeman,wigglytuff and vape?
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GYMS ARE LIVE
>>
GYMS ARE LIVE BOYS!!!!!!
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>>32841720
NO THEY ARE NOT SHUT UP WITH THAT STUPID MEME ALREADY
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>>32841720
why do I keep falling for it :(
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>>32841719
The ones I listed are based off pure tankyness (calculated with the defense formula used for gyms) with glaring/common 2x weaknesses excluded. Tyranitar, Dragonite, Gyarados, etc. are all incredibly easy kills, and not even good defenders any more.

Steelix still does rank that high even with his HP. The weaknesses is up in the air, not as bad as the more common old mons like dnite, rhydon.

The list goes:

Blissey/Chansey/Snorlax/Steelix/Umbreon/Lapras/Vaporeon/Wob/Miltank/Muk/Donphan/Tentacruel/Slowbro/Slowking/Hypno/Lanturn/Noctowl

Much more interesting mons imo. Literally all that matters is avoiding obvious 4x weakness and stalling for time. movesets are ultimately meaningless on defense
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>>32841731
how about new CP mechanics? How does it affect motivation? Should I worry about my low CP (~1500) good IV (>90%) umbreon/steelix/lapras?
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>>32841679
in my city gyms are mostly a mix of random trash from the level 10-20 passerbys who get free slots alongside 1 level 30+ player who was clearly the one who earned the gym in the first place
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>>32841740
question is, should I rather put:
800 CP chansey,
3000 CP vaporeon or
1400 CP lapras

into a gym?
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>>32841731
cheers m8
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>Getting only 20 stardust for each berry fed
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>>32841740
>>32841744
I am writing up an autism post about this for the new thread but every Pokemon has minimum 6 fights before they kicked out. Each.

So your 800 CP Chansey and 3000 CP Blissey will take up the same number of fights if nobody else is helping and/or feeding it berries. Same for a 10 CP Magikarp or Pidgey.
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>>32841758
>I am writing up an autism post about this for the new thread

Brilliant. You're doing God's work anon, tHanke you.
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>>32841749
np
>>32841740
>>32841744
Nothing has been found out 100% for-sure, but from what I can tell I'm very confident that you should just go with whatever the highest CP is of their overall maximum

So, for example if Pokemon A is 900 and has a cap of 1000.

And Pokemon B has a cap of 2000 but is 1000

You should go with Pokemon A

Essentially what CP is is a number to show the overall power of a pokemons stats. But we dont care about Attack at all when defending, which is HEAVILY factored into CP formula.

All you want is to waste time and deter people from wanting to bother with your mons.

There are exceptions; Blissey, Chansey, and Snorlax are worth a lot more than most other mons due to their absurd tankiness. If you can put any of those in, particularly the Blissey/Chansey, you should unless they are literally garbage (very low amount of CP toward their max)
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do we hate the new gym system yet or is it still the honeymoon phase

have you guys figured out how much less coins you get now
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I thought I should let you guys know that while I was messing around with Motivation decreasing, etc. I also ended up leveling up my gym badge for the gym near my house.

When my defender got sent back to me, after 1 hour, I got two (or three) coins. I am 100% positive that I got more than one coin, which means that the coins you get per hour of defending a gym starts at one per hour and SCALES UP with your gym badge.

I don't know how far the gym badge scales up, but if it gets to level 10 for example, then thats 10 coins an hour.

I haven't seen this posted on here or TSR, so feel free to eat your hearts out and also contribute with findings.
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why can't i join raids
is the update shit
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>>32841771
>So, for example if Pokemon A is 900 and has a cap of 1000.

>And Pokemon B has a cap of 2000 but is 1000

>You should go with Pokemon A

co basically i should consider that CP arc over mons head?
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>>32841778
This also makes sense because it makes the "hometown" advantage interesting, and makes you feel like you're fighting for YOUR SPECIFIC gyms because YOU have an upgraded gym badge and makes those gyms near you more valuable.

This adds to the incentive to turnover gyms, and also makes it more likely for people to be social and form alliances with other Trainers
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>>32841773
I like it.
>have you guys figured out how much less coins you get now

Implying I fucking care. Coins are side issue, I sitll have 3k left from pre-update. All I care about is FUN
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>>32841784
Yep, that's basically it.>>32841784
raids are in beta
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>>32841784
See >>32841758

CP only matters for the first couple times the Pokemon gets beaten or if there's a steady berry stream for it because every loss reduces a large chunk of its CP.
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>>32841788
so honeymoon
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>>32841440
they've been winning since day 1, faggot

get fucked
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>>32841791
It needs to be noted that CP DOES matter because higher LEVEL (not necessarily CP) Pokemon have higher defense/health than lower level Pokemon. So, a Blissey and Chansey at 2000 and 600 respectively can fight the same amount of fights, but obviously the Blissey is better because it would waste much more time due to more health/defense as a base but also due to higher level.
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>>32841670
Well I kind of like the idea that it makes gyms less stagnant as you actually need to feed berries to your mons to keep them in, so you can no longer drive out to the middle of nowhere and take over a gym and assume it'll stick for a few weeks.

The fact that there's now more pokestops also benefits more rural areas because they already have problems getting enough items.

Downside is that it takes pretty long to take out a fully staffed gym. Whether that Blissey is at the front or at the back, you're still gonna have to fight it four or five times. But at least it gets significantly easier every time.
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New thread when
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Is this a glitch? As you can see, my Pokémon's been in the Gym for 12h without being fed and it's doing fine.
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>>32841817
I'm making a new thread, hold on a second
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>>32841819
someone else on your team has fed it berries
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>>32841823
don't anon

NEW THREAD
>>32841822
NEW THREAD
>>32841822
NEW THREAD
>>32841822
NEW THREAD
>>32841822
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>>32841819
>this update, a Pokemon's stamina is directly proportional to its fat content, ie Snorlax lasts like a thousand times longer than a skinny bitch like Alakazam
>Gyms are somehow even more polarized towards Blissey and Snorlax

Honestly I wouldn't even be surprised.
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>>32841044
Not the other anon, but there are 5 levels of difficulty for raid bosses level 5 assuming to be for legendaries
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>>32841135
a cute!
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>>32841679
How good is Shuckle then?
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