Uber when?

When USM come out and give it a broken move via tutor.

Soon™

>>32825794
>grenigger
>op
lando-t shill detected

>>32825794
When the current Smogon tournament is over, there is supposedly going to be a suspect test for it, in which is likely to get banned. That is just heresay from a few Council members, but it makes sense.

Never ever. Usage is already dropping.

>>32825804
Greninja's already broken without 'em. Now Lele on the other hand...
>earth power lele

>>32825914
>in which is likely to get banned
It's not february anymore. Greninja's not even that good now with AV Mage being everywhere.

>>32825983
I meant Smogon World Cup. I forgot the exact title. It starts some time at the end of this month and extends into July. They don't want to screw with the metagame until after.

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>>32825972
>earth power lele
Please yes.

>>32826086
I mean that people have adapted to Gren since then. Bulky Mew and Mantine are good for sponging Gren too.

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OU when?

MOTTO
MOTTO
TSUYOKU

>>32826515
When it will only be able to be accessed by killing a mon with Mew.

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>>32826515
How bad Kyurem really is makes me sad sometimes. It's stats are only slightly less than fucking Yveltal.

>>32827736
And Xerneas.

>>32825794
So have they even decided what they'd with with Ash Greninja? Technically it needs Greninja, but its a special Greninja can only ever have Battle Bond.

Or are both just so broken they'd ban Ash Greninja as well regardless

>>32827845
It won't be dragged to Ubers by Protean frog, they are being treated as separate Pokémon.

>>32827845
They would just ban Battle Bond.

>>32827845
Neither of the frogs are broken, A-Ninja needs a kill and even with a specs its easy to check it till it gets it, the other ninja while not needing a kill to be effective the meta has adapted to it so its not as good as before. Both are very good but not on the level of Mag or Lando.

>>32827861
Alright, thank you, I remember it was a hot debate right when SM came out, but I stopped following it.

>>32825983
>Greninja's not even that good now with AV Mage being everywhere.

252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Assault Vest Magearna: 133-156 (36.6 - 42.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Nice check you got there.

>>32825794
Hopefully never, I fucking love using that frog.

>>32825794
Blame the anime pandering

>>32828063
>Using an outdated set.

252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Hidden Power Fire vs. 200 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Magearna: 96-117 (27.3 - 33.3%) -- 13.2% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock

54 SpA Magearna Fleur Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Greninja: 270-318 (94.7 - 111.5%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

Have you ever used a Magearna ?

>>32829862
Oh wait forgot to change the type of the frog.

56+ SpA Magearna Fleur Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Greninja: 148-175 (51.9 - 61.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO