Alpha/Beta/unused content thread

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these house rooms might be seen in ultra sun and ultra moon but idk

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Not sure if this counts or actually means anything, but Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire have unseen data on cry listings and index numbers. While most people know about the index number listing, and Chimecho being the last one listed, the cry data is much more interesting, and can likely give some background on when Pokemon were added into the game.
>Kecleon is the first Pokemon on the list. It was also heavily used to advertise Gen III early on, so it was likely the first Pokemon made for the gen.
>Electrike's line is the first evolutionary line listed. Otherwise, there's nothing too interesting going on with them.
>Latias was added very early on, and was also a Pokemon that was shown to have a few revisions, like the Latias/Blaziken hybrid concept art. Latios, however, is one of the last Pokemon added.
>Sharpedo was added very early into the game, was used for advertising, and was usable in early demos of the game. Carvanha, on the other hand, is added a bit later. The Sharpedo in the demo is underleveled, so Carvanha probably didn't exist at the time, and Sharpedo was just a one-stage mon.
>two unused Pokemon in between Taillow and Swellow.
>Poochyena and Mightyena are added much later, they were likely fodder mons for Magma and Aqua to use, and nothing more.
>Despite appearing everywhere in the final game, Linoone's line are some of the last Pokemon to appear.
>Chimecho is still the very last Pokemon, like it was in the index data, appearing after the event legendaries.

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Gastrodon and Shellos didn't have different forms at one point.

>>32806960
>>32806975
The two unused crirs are probably the original Shellos and Gastrodon.

>>32806975
They were originally Gen 3 pokemon too iirc.

>>32806960
>we could have had a game where Zigzagoon didn't exist
Where did it all go wrong

>>32806960
Gen I's index number listing was also pretty weird. Ivysaur and Blastoise were added much earlier than the rest of their lines. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pokémon_by_index_number_(Generation_I)

>>32807008
What's wrong with Zigzagoon?

D/P/Pt has a lot of unused tracks that are mostly just different instruments for the lead or just not having a lead.

this is better than the final
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jt69o6STn4

Also this is pretty cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2bzkYzveTs

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>>32807048
>What's wrong with Zigzagoon?
WT

>>32807048
Zigzagoons are the cockroaches of Hoenn, fuckers are everywhere with high encounter rates. Also has a stupid face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdMDZ6I44QQ

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>>32807083
>Cockroaches oh hoenn
yes
>Also has a stupid face
no

>>32807133
Is that supposed to be a tattoo or his scar?

>>32807129
Spooky

Also, does anyone know if any Cyrus concept art exists online? He's my favorite character, so... just curious. There only seems to be the character art from the games.

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>>32807174

>>32807205
upvoted XD

>>32807205
FUCK

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There's a model for Serena with her wearing a white exotic tee, dark blue skinny jeans, and black shoes. The colors for the exotic tee and skinny jeans don't show up ingame, and the shoes don't exist at all.

>>32807504
>They could've reused this design for Alolan Serena
Fuck

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>>32806882
>>32806889
>>32806897
Don't forget the Golf Course.

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Posting both alpha and beta

>>32806913
Torchic?

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>>32806874
Great thread idea OP. I find this kind of stuff really interesting, and it can be pretty fun looking for unused/prototype/alpha/beta content in games yourself too.

Look at this big ass froakie

>>32807504
>tfw Pokémon Z Serena will look like this.

>>32806960
Yeah I remember kecleon episode in johto saga anime before blazakin showed up

In the German translation of Pokemon Ruby (Pokemon Sapphire won't work), there is a way to access the debug mode from the title screen. Just press Select and it'll take you there. You can also press L+Start in-game and bring up another debug menu from there.

There's been a few unused things revealed from this debug menu. Here's a video on how it works and another video on two unused cries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swLhURtm6T4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQROgrqj18o

>>32809010
That's... not actually true. A debug build of Ruby - one that happened to be in German - leaked a few years back. You can't access the debug mode on every German Ruby cartridge, only the debug ROM works.

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"Pokémon AGB"

>>32809249
Pokémon Advanced Gameboy

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>>32808384
Yes

>>32809845
Wtf this is so much better than the human in a chicken suit we got

>>32806960
Here's the Latias+Blaziken hybrid. Makes me wonder why Latios was created, since you never encounter both at any given point in RSE, and they don't have much background unlike the legendary beasts from GSC.
Ruby and Sapphire were also going to have players use more than 6 Pokemon or give them more than 4 moves and wild double battles (a feature that was introduced in Gen IV when you're with a partner, and refined in Gen V as dark grass),

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>>32810294
forgot pic, my bad.

>>32808960
The stupid child I used to be thought Kecleon was something like a lost, hidden of forgotten Gen II Pokémon and started to search for it in the game.

>>32810637
I mean, it wouldn't exactly be stupid. A lot of people think Skarmory is a Gen 3 Pokemon due to only appearing on a really obscure route in Gold and Silver. Chimecho could be seen as a preview for Gen 4, since it has the lowest possible encounter rate in the game. I really like it when they throw us a preview Pokemon in the game to give us a bone regarding the next gen.

Unused songs used most likely for instrument tests in development or place holders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2bzkYzveTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkARCOqBprI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qBwSNIDk_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgcaburduKk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enozaj_CzMs

>>32810301
I love this one.
The character design looks like they wanted Gen 3 to be set in the distant past or something.

>>32807170
possible damage fighting an ice pokemon, also is left arm is black due to frostbite

>>32808362
Wait, is it an actual location in the game?

>>32811981
Yes but it's inaccessible because they cut it to make the deadline for the game.

>>32806874
super interesting shit related to OP's image.
http://www.glitterberri.com/pokemon-gold-silver/spaceworld-97-demo/

>>32806882
>>32806889
>>32806897
>>32808362

Are there any videos on YouTube showing videos of inaccessible areas using a WTW code/hacking?

In Pokemon Colosseum, there are some unused Shadow Pokemon that were going to be in the game: Kecleon, Minun, Spoink, Baltoy, Castform, Psyduck, Teddiursa, Wobbuffet, Wailmer, Porygon2, Xatu, Whiscash, and Magcargo.

Source: https://tcrf.net/Pokémon_Colosseum

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>>32809845

>>32808362
>>32812080
Only a very very small portion of the course is in the game, to add scenery to the area surrounding the Hano Grand Resort. It's just scenery, not a whole area which was cut from the game. It's possible that it was planned to be accessible at some point, but given how little of the course is actually present in the game, it's not a fair assumption that it was only removed late in development due to time constraints.

>>32813896
How do you explain the golfer trainer class? There's only two of them in the entire game and they're both placed right next to each other in a spot that can easily be ignored.

>>32813917
As I said, it's possible that it was planned earlier on in development, but I really don't think the existence of an area which purely exists for aesthetics and the existence of a couple of golfers is enough to conclude that it was an idea which got scrapped due to time constraints

>>32814346
I mainly draw the conclusion because of Kahili not being in the story at all, where with the rest of the E4 you personally knew them and had some sort of bond, so I assume the same was meant to be done for her.

>>32809042
Ah, my bad. It's still interesting seeing unused stuff from the ROM, though.

>>32806960
I suspect Electrike was going to be the original Rattata of the generation, but they eventually opted for Zigzagoon instead.

>>32810886
Sootopolis was probably meant to be even more lost civilization-like than it was.

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Beta Torchic is a cute

Does anyone remember some interview where they said that originally you were going to have to convince pokemon to join you rather than catching them, or did I imagine that?

>>32810723
iirc, they use the MIDI for the older songs as placeholders in the beta version that they present to shareholders, and possibly as a sound test before new music is designed

>>32814538
I think that the golf course could possibly have been another trial site with Kahili as the captain, since she uses flying types in the E4 and there is no flying trial captain in the game. This could be because they didn't really add many new flying types to gen 7, although I think Toucannon would have been an awesome totem pokemon

>>32816560
well the poke pelago works sort of like that, could've been a mistranslation

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>>32806874

>>32816560
I'd be down for Shin Megami Tensei: Pokémon Edition

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>>32816560
>Pokemon is even more of a MegaTen rip off than we originally envisioned

Gen III had an unused Ability that was removed from the games in later generations: Cacophony. It's effect is the exact same as Soundproof, and it was likely meant to be the Whismur line's ability.

>>32816616

itll probably be in ultra sun/moon, theyll probably do what bw2 did and shuffle up the order of gyms (trials in this case) and add new ones

>>32810294
You could catch Latios in Emerald if you pick a certain color after the credits.

>>32817191
While it's possible they might do that, I wouldn't get my hopes up. They've had plenty of unused or unseen areas in previous games that never became accessible in the next release.

>>32806882
So Gamefreak didn't bother coming up with postgame or making all pokemon available, but they did make time to create a toilet?

>Order and Chaos
>Past and Future
>Plus and Minus
>Good and Evil

>>32817315
Fuck, wrong thread.

>>32807129
What the hell is wrong with his face

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>>32807504
Not unused but I always found it funny that XY reuses the same models for most trainers.

>>32814662
Probably makes sense, since Gen IV had an early electric type in the form of Shinx. I wonder what Electrike's line looked like back then, since almost every other mon that was added first got significant redesigns.

>>32809845
the headband is so cute !

>>32818710
Wow I can't believe I've never noticed that.

>>32817290
it's a metaphore

>>32806874
Ledyba looked so badass

>>32818710
Many of adult male trainers in SM look the same too

Worker, firefighter, janitor, swimmer

>>32817290
Yeah, They had time to show where their company went

>>32807205
kek

>>32817290
People who make and model the maps are not the same people who write and script the scenarios.

>>32819280
Beedrill's line looked pretty different too early on.

>>32807504
cute shoes

>>32817191
>Thinking USM will have the same increased amount of content as BW2

>>32807170
A scar, Ghetsis has a mysterious injury down his right side; he has the scar over his eye, his right arm is rarely used and looks burned when it is, and obviously he needs a walking stick.

I've seen theories that it's from an encounter with Reshiram, Zekrom or Kyurem, or that Alder's Volcarona burned him. I don't think there's any theory with any evidence though.

>>32823433
I like to think that's because of his Hydreigon, but it's my headcanon only.

>>32823444
I think that makes sense. I imagine he isn't the kind of guy to treat his Pokemon nicely, so maybe his Hydreigon got fed up with him and attacked him.

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>>32822274
You're right (assuming this is the actual beta design and not a fake). This Beedrill design reminds me of Ledian.

>>32806960
I wonder if they were planning to have a Swellow evo and then changed their minds.

>>32825879
Dragonair smoking a cigar. That's all I can see.

>>32825879
The old Beedrill kind of reminds me of Ledian.

>>32825879
Is that a fucking standing roach with gloves?

>>32817354
It's Ghetsis. He's missing an eye for some reason GF never elavorate.

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>>32807008

who the fuck has an opinion on zigzagoon

>>32830560
It's a shitmon that takes up half the region's wild encounter tables, and ORAS didn't fix this at all. Fuck Zigzagoon and fuck Wingull.

>>32830363
no, that's N. I'm not sure why he looks like that, either.

>>32809845
This should be our terror bird fossilmon.

>>32807129
jesus christ, N?

damn what the fuck was the original b/w story going to be like? edgy? more leaned towards teens? seriously that n concept art the fuck

>>32810723
i'm really curious about all seemingly g/s/c music was about? i have a feeling they were originalyl going to use team rocket again, but they just scrapped that all together probably because it was to repetitive? or were we going to visit johto/kanto again?

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>>32825879

>>32830592
Masuda just learned from Tajiri-senpa when Raticate was littered all over Johto like the black plague

You know, instead of fixing issues Masuda likes to add more

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Groudon pre-evo

Might be originally intended to be as a pseudo normal pokemon

Dumping some the old pokemon

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>>32832002
Possible original gen 3 starters

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>>32832011
Grass starter

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>>32832018
1st evolution

Final evolution doesn't seen to be found anywhere

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>>32832021
Water starter

>>32806960
>>two unused Pokemon in between Taillow and Swellow.
one of these must be the shellos that was removed/not implemented fully

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>>32832039
1st evolution

No final evolution

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>>32832045
First evolution of >>32806913

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>>32832049
water microbe

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>>32832054

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>>32832058
early rotom

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>>32832073
early togedemaru design?

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>>32832075

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>>32832086

>>32832075
Shaymin

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>>32832092

>>32806960
>>Kecleon is the first Pokemon on the list. It was also heavily used to advertise Gen III early on, so it was likely the first Pokemon made for the gen.
But Bulbapedia says that after Gen 1 they're all in the Pokedex order. Where can one find this info for all Generations?

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>>32832138
early concept for Gogoat, made back in BW

>>32825879
The way the sprites look it seems like they were working on the Pokemon games with computers from the early 80's to me. That's the vibe I'm getting just from looking at the picture. it's kind of unsettling too.

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>>32832144
possible early concept for Gardevoir

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>>32832151
And that's all

>>32832107
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Ruby_and_Sapphire_beta#Cries

>>32832159
Where did you find all this early concept art from? It's interesting to see that they left so much out from the original games or changed whatever they chose to the point of making it completely different than what they were going for.

>>32806874
Who is that semen demon?

>>32825879
>crown on Poliwrath
>King's Rock to get Politoed
It makes sense now

>>32832181
Found them in this >>32793463

It's unknown if they're real or fake, so take them with a grain of salt.

But yeah, I pretty much agree what you said. But I would absolutely love an artbook of all pokemon designs, including the unused or early pokemon designs.

Way to flood a perfectly good thread with fakemon.

>>32832113
Awww, I really like this one, I hope they end up recycling this design somehow

>>32832132
What do the moonrunes say?

>>32832281
No clue

>all this fake shit