What went wrong?

they stopped adding more

Say what you will about the others, Magnezone is a legit improvement

>>32788454
Aside from being introduced in the worst region? People have shit taste. The cross-gn evolutions look good. I agree that Magmortar and Rhyperior don't look as good as their pre-evos but they don't look bad

>>32788454
your taste

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>>32788454
I think all of them are ok except Rhyperior, who just looks kinda ugly compared to the greatness that is Rhydon.

I personally love Magnezone.

Gamefreaks should retcon gen 4 and gen 5.

>>32788454

Magnezone and Trangrowth are good.

>>32788454
Tanglegrowth is the objectively best grass design.
Literally not up for debate.
He's the Britney Spears and all the others are Mandy Moores.

Electivire and Magnezone are great. Magmortar and Rhyperior aren't fantastic, but the only one that is irredeemable trash is Lickilicky.

>>32788454

Electivire, Tangrowth, and Magnezone are good designs that improve upon the originals

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YES

>>32788454
>not liking Magnezone, Electivire, Tangrowth.

Ur gey.

>>32788454
F

I'm rather fond of Tangrowth myself, and I'm not entirely sure what it is that makes people not like it. Would someone who doesn't like it mind weighing in?
I'm not looking to get into a shit-flinging bout, I'm just curious.

If they kept the beak would magmortar look better?

>>32788499
I honestly think banning anyone who likes gen 4 and 5 would improve the quality of this board.

>>32788454
Lickilicky, Tangrowth and Electivire are all good

>>32788555
I love it now, but originally I was slightly put off by the fact the vines don't cover every square inch of its body. I realize now it looks better as-is, but I'm wondering if that could possibly a reason?

Either that or the "it just gets bigger" claim.

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>>32788478
>Gen 1
>anything but good
irrelevant.

>>32788570
Better, but not quite. I made an edit of Magmortar with a beak last year in one of the redesign threads. The pink legs is off putting, so those need fixed.

>>32788555
>I'm not entirely sure what it is that makes people not like it.
Umm, because not everyone has the same taste?

Memes aside, I do think it’s kinda doofy looking and Tangela is cuter, but I have no qualms with the design overall.

>>32788454
Relatively good designs by themselves but since you have to compare them to their pre-evos they look like huge lumbering fucks with some shit thrown on them. Gen 1 designs and Gen 4 designs clash way too much.

>>32788454
Rhyperior (to an extent), Tangrowth, and Magnezone are alright.
Although Tangrowth might be too simple, even compared to Gen 1.

>>32788454
Rhyperior is the only bad one. Even then Rhydon already ruined the line anyway so it doesn't matter.

The only truly terrible one is magmortar. Rhyperior is disappointing but not awful, the rest are fine.

>>32788723
This.
Nidoshit 3.0 already ruined Rhyhorn.

>>32788741
Is he? I think he is the best one, looks like he is ready to fuck your shit up.

Magnezone is ok.
Rhyperior is awful.
The rest is just average.

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>Magnezone and Tangrowth
>bad in any way
Who started this meme.

>>32788454
All downgrades, except maybe tangrowth.
Tangela is cuter, but tangrowth is neat.

>>32788454
>What went wrong?
Literally nothing.

>>32788798
Tangela is a greasy hair nerd.
Tangrowth is a qt who needs his belly rubbed.

>>32788593
>>32788478
I meant the cross-gen evos are from the worst region. I thought that would be implied since OP was asking what went wrong with the cross-gen evos

God i never realized i hate all of those apart from electivier

>>32788454
Nothing. They all look great.

>Everyone forgets Yanmega exists

I love how people always talk shit about Lickilicki, as if Lickitung was a great design and its evolution is a huge downgrade.

>>32788871
Like Weavile, Mismagius and a number of other cross-gen evolutions, Yanmega didn't shit on a Gen 1 design, but a Gen 2 design.

>>32788883
Same with Magmortar.
They act as if magmar was good.

- Rhyperior loses Rhydon's signature ears. Its drill isn't pointed upward like Rhydon's.

- Magmortar's awkward pink color scheme and its body being too fat.

- Not Electric/Fighting. Replacing the lightning bolt pattern on its stomach. Yellow fur stops at its feet.

- Designer was too lazy to show the individual vines on most of Tangrowth's body (no vines in center of body, etc.)

- Magnezone's magnets are not always red and blue.

- Swirlee on its head. No rings on its legs. Its tongue is too short. Loses its long and thick tail. Awkward white patch on its chest.

>>32788454

all of those except lickilicky and rhyperior improved on the original

>>32789560
>- Rhyperior loses Rhydon's signature ears. Its drill isn't pointed upward like Rhydon's.
Do you even know what signature means? Rhydon's signature are the tail and the drill. I agree with you in the drill question.
>- Magmortar's awkward pink color scheme and its body being too fat.
The body is ok, but I'm with you about the random pink.
>- Not Electric/Fighting. Replacing the lightning bolt pattern on its stomach. Yellow fur stops at its feet.
The pattern that looks like angry eyebrows should get back too, despite I like it the way it is. They should change that two tails and make only one.
>- Designer was too lazy to show the individual vines on most of Tangrowth's body (no vines in center of body, etc.)
THIS
>- Magnezone's magnets are not always red and blue.
Meh. Magnezone is cool the way it is.
>- Swirlee on its head. No rings on its legs. Its tongue is too short. Loses its long and thick tail. Awkward white patch on its chest.
Lickilicki is a total loss.

>>32788593
jeez, that image and that genwun makes you stink of reddit

Nothing, they made shitmons better

>>32788454

I feel bad for tangela. He had 100 Special in gen 1. Then got 40 Sp.Def in gen 2. If they didn't garbage out his Sp. Def stat he'd have been a pretty good pokemon. Not like 100 Sp.Att and 100 Sp.Def would have been broken

>>32788802
KYS

>>32789273
Magmar rules, bitch.

>>32788454
Tangrowth and Magnezone are GOAT though. Lickylicky is okay.

>>32788454
The only thing I would change on any of them is Rhyperior's color scheme. Also, where's Gallade?

>>32790464
Does Gallade evolve from one of the 151?

>>32788454
Only ones that went wrong were Rhyperior, Magmortar and Lickiliky.
I wish we still got cross gen evolutions other than eevee.

>>32790484
Magmar was already shit though.

>>32788454

The only thing that went wrong is your taste.

Electivire's fine

>>32788484
/thread

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>>32790519

Other than Electrivire? Nothing. And Electrivire is still cool on its own.

Magnezone and Lickilicky are by far the best Sinnoh crossevos.

>>32790368
garbage taste

>>32788454
I actually like Magmortar being a fat killer clown with cannons for arms, I just wish they didn't add pink for no reason and maybe kept his beak.

>>32788454
Most of them are different enough that they have their own personality so I have nothing against them, and Tangrowth is one of the few cases where "it just gets bigger" actually worked out well. The only one I don't like that much is Lickylicky who just doesn't seem different enough. He doesn't look like an upgrade or a more powerful or bigger version of Lickitung, he's just more of the same.

>>32788454
At least half of those are FUCKING RAD and had better designs than their originals

The only one that's objectively shit is Lickilicky, but lickitung was already a shit-tier meme pokemon so its not like we lost anything from it

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>>32788454

>>32788892
But Yanma can't be a Gen 2 mon, it's not an amorphous blob with paws

>>32788892
Yanmega is one of the most solid crossgen evos. You have shit taste.

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>>32788593

>>32788541
>it just gets angrier

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>>32790756
I don't think I would change anything about this. Solid taste, anon.

>>32788622
You're a retarded cunt

>>32788454
the only complain that I have with tangrowth is the lack of detail (a bunch of amorfus green instead od vines)

>>32791675
*of
fixed

>>32788454
I agree and I respect people who like them but I just don't get it. They are terrible designs and one of the many reason I want GF to leave my shitmons alone.

>>32791764
Left alone means not even eviolite.
No reason to want that, other than to be a petty and short sighted retard.

>>32788892
>disliking gen 2 cross evos
this must be bait

>>32788571
le genwunner face

>>32788454
Rhyperior is the only bad one desu.

>>32788798
>magnezone
>downgrade of mageneton
wew

>>32788454
>Hating Safety Rhyno
>Hating Fire Blastoise
>Hating Handbra Yeti
>Hating Caveman Vines
>Hating Magnet Saucer
>Hating Lord Licks-a-Lot

>>32788454
Superior ones:
>Rhyhorn
>Equally terrible
>Electivire
>Equally boring
>Magnezone
>Equally terrible

>>32790752
this

>>32788454
They got fat.

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Get out.

>>32788454
magmar was always a terrible design
whether you like the arm cannon or not at least it doesnt have buttcheeks on its forehead

Magnezone is completely legit. Fucking UFO made of magnets, what's not to like?

Rhyperior has actually grown on me a lot, I like how the red armour represents the Protector and it has a wrecking ball for a tail.

Gen 2's evolutions were overall better though. Yanmega, Gliscor, Mismagius, Weavile, Mamoswine, all good stuff.

>>32788454
I prefer pretty much every 4th gen evo here. Not that I hate any of the gen 1s, Electabuzz is still my fav, but they did good changing designs that most people didnt pay attention to too much anyways.

That is other then Rhydon who I personally dislike for ruining the greatness that was Rhyhorn, I just find it really bland and the armor plating compared to its first stage was really lack luster. The only reason I like Rhyperior more is that if I cant have a bad ass tank Rhino, I might as well have some heavy duty rock monster.

>>32788523
if by mandy moores you mean more successful in life, then yes.

>>32788454
>hating based Magnezone
What, did you want 5 Magnemites?

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>>32788454
:)

>>32793352
that could actually work given magnezone is meant to represent a mothership
give it a docking bay and a bunch of magnemites

>>32793376
I've always thought they get so attracted they smelt into a UFO

>>32788454
Rhyperior is an abomination that should have never existed. It's one of the worst pokémon ever, a dumb fatass with retard teeth, a stupid nose that doesn't even fit the previous design idea anymore, a bald head with a crappy ginger toupee.


Magmortar too but Magmar also sucks in the first place.
Electivire is good even though the face looks too different from Electabuzz.
Tangrowth is okay but it pissed me off that the black part is just a black body part instead of being something mysterious like with Tangela.
Magnezone always looked dumb to me because it seems it has a sumo wrestler haircut which I cannot unsee.
Lickilicky is plain ugly but Lickitung is also pretty ugly and forgettable.

Togekiss is a fat bird thing and not what I expected from the first fairylike creature in the series.
Porygon-Z is cool.
Ambipom is another abomination with that stupid face.
Yanmega is cool.
Honchkrow is alright.
Mismagius is cool.
Gliscor is cool.
Weavile is alright, not a fan of the headpiece but whatever.
Mamoswine looks to different from its previous evolution to the point you wouldn't think they're related at all if you didn't know about pokémon, but the design itself is cool.
Mantyke, Bonsly, and Chingling are "what's the point?"
Mime Jr. and Munchlax make more sense as baby pokémon but they're kinda ugly anyway.
Gallade is alright.
Probopass is silly and dumb looking, but in a good way. Maybe it's because I don't like Nosepass that much.
Roserade is cool.
Dusknoir has the Mamoswine problem but not that badly.
The Eevolutions are good.

14/26 Not that terrible and damn I didn't notice there were so many 4th gen cross evos.

>>32788454
Their pre-evolutions.

>>32793434
>Tangrowth is okay but it pissed me off that the black part is just a black body part instead of being something mysterious like with Tangela.
Tangela's is too, though. You can see that it's just a black orb with shading.

>>32788454

Magnezone, Tangrowth and Electivire are great though.

>>32788454
The first three were going to be controversial anyway because they already looked like they could be final forms, but Electivire is particularly badly designed.
Magmortar is equally ugly to Magmar.
Many people have argued about the proportions of Rhyperior. I shall not.
Tangela was utterly already forgettable, so it was easy to improve.
Magneton was already a bad design, so it was easy to improve.
Likitung was an utterly already forgettable, so it was easy to improve.

>>32794255
tl;dr
Tangrowth and Lickilicky are improvements because they were already forgettable.
Magneton was an improvement because it was already a lazy design.
I'm neutral to Rhyperior and Magmortar.
I hate Electivire.

>>32788474
This

>>32788454
In competitive it is Tangrowth > Magnezone > Rhyperior > Magmortar > Electrivire > Lickilicky

>>32788478
>>32788495
>>32788723
>>32789585
>>32790484
>>32791984
>>32793434
How can you retards have such shit taste??? Rhyperior is the best one of that group. It's actually one of my favorite pokémon. What the fuck is so wrong with it? Its rock armor looks badass and makes the design much more interesting compared to the blandness that is Rhydon.

>>32793434
>Rhyperior is bad
Kys faggot.

>>32795505
>>32795520
2/10, made me reply