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People have been spamming USM nonstop due to the whole "USUM reminds me of SuMo so I'm going to use USM because redundant to put the U twice."
Back many years ago when emojis didn't rule the Internet, we had this thing call a forward slash.
It's this: /
You an see it twice in the board's name, /vp/.
However, people will often be lazy and call this board vp without the forward slashes. That is because the forward slashes are implied. We all know they are there, so there's no point in typing them unless we want to.
Trolls have twisted this logic around in promoting USM over USUM, and I'm here to set things straight.
Around the era of Diamond and Pearl, D/P was the common abbreviation. Very few people actually used DP. It was always R/B/Y, G/S/C, etc. You can look this up in archives and find that using the forward slashes was much preferred. Around the time Platinum came out, the forward slashes became implied, so instead of typing D/P/Pt every time, people would just say DPPt. No one would call it DPt, because "t" does not stand for "Platinum."
Now, fast forward to today.
B/W became BW
HG/SS became HGSS.
B2/W2 became B2W2
X/Y became XY.
OR/AS became ORAS
S/M became SM
If you call it "USM", you are implying that it's US/M, just like if you call it BW2, you are implying that it's B/W2.
The abbreviation was NEVER (BW)2 or U(SM). Can you type them out like that and be correct? Yes, it IS technically correct.
This is basic math.
(B2)/(W2) = (B2)(W2) because it is "culturally implied" that there is a / between (B2) and (W2), just like (D)/(P)/(Pt) = (D)(P)(Pt) is correct because the parentheses imply that what is enclosed is its own game and what is between the sets of parentheses have /s in between them.
U(SM) implies that Sun and Moon ARE THE SAME GAME, which they're not, so you can't use USM as the abbreviation since it DOES. NOT. APPLY. Only USUM can work because US is its own game and UM is its own game, therefore (US)/(UM) = (US)(UM) = USUM
Understand?
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autism
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>>32704024
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>>32704024
i know you're 100% right but i'm just going to call you autistic so we can deflect this argument wow am i getting sleepy or is it just me??
we should all close this tab and go to bed soon :)
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>>32704024
>expecting anyone to read all that shit
Autism
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>>32704024
You don't call it DPt because the P stands for different things in each game (Pearl, Platinum).
There's a 2 in each Black 2 and White 2, so BW2 is fine. There's an Ultra in both Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, so USM is fine. It's like the distributive property.
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>>32704098
>call people autistic while having ADD
cool story bro
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>>32704024
I use USUM but I am going to start calling it USM just to spite you faggot
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>>32704126
I don't care if you use it out of spite or to troll. My arguments is to ignorant fags like >>32704119 who has no idea what he's talking about and actually believes in his core 100% that he is right when he is WRONG.
Hell, if I get this triggered by ignorant fags calling it USM, I'm going to use USM in threads where USUM is mostly used just to get free (You)s.
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>>32704149
Nothing I said was faulty. If you're going to cite your own argument about the slashes, the fact that you're justifying calling the slashes implied can validate leaving distribution/parentheses implied.
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>>32704024
>being so triggered by simple abbreviation to the point of writing a multiple paragraph essay about it
Holy autism. UlSuUlMo or bust.
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I've been calling it USUM
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>>32704024
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>>32704024
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people will call it both until one settles. deal with it
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>>32704024
I still use / so is US/UM for me.
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>>32704186
That's the problem with you uncultured Reddit newfags. It has been in Internet culture for years that / is implied. Literally NOBODY used BW2 before Reddit spammed it everywhere.
Did ANYONE call B2W2 "(BW)2" before? No, not ever, because that LOOKS STUPID. Can you say U(SM) and be correct? Yes. Can you say USM and be correct? Yes, if what you're implying is that you're actually saying U(SM), because U(SM) LOOKS STUPID and when the dust settles, NOBODY will choose that nomenclature. NOBODY will call it U(SM), they will ALWAYS call it US/UM if they ever add anything outside of letters to the abbreviation.
This is a simple cultural issue. Calling it USM (outside of trolling, baiting, etc.) is just plain WRONG.
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>>32704024
>No one would call it DPt, because "t" does not stand for "Platinum."
You wrote this whole post just to push your little retarded agent, huh?
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>>32704239
And what are you going to do to stop me?
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>>32704245
Absolutely nothing.
I already said I don't care about people who openly admit it's US/UM or USUM and just post USM to piss people off and get free (You)s. I do that myself all the time, because it's hilarious. I'm only directing my argument at those people who are so braindead (aka Redditfags) that they literally believe it's 100% correct to use USM and have the nerve to unironically, seriously quote every single USUM post they see as a SuMo-tier abbreviation as if the two are even remotely comparable.
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>>32704024
>B2/W2 became B2W2
It was always BW2. Sometimes BW/2.
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>>32704239
If your only ability to argue lies in appealing to popularity and repeating that something looks stupid/wrong then you wasted your time making this thread, because many people DO use BW2 and USM. Just because a set of people use B2W2 and USUM doesn't negate the existence of the other. Your 'logic' is just rationalized bias.
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>>32704251
And yet you care enough to reply and show how mad you are.
Regardless it was always BW2 from the very start and just like that it'll be USM.
Stay triggered.
I bet you said SuMo too.
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>>32704277
See >>32704280
I'm not arguing against trolls like you. I'm saying that people are so stupid they actually think it was always BW2 and USM and anyone who says B2W2 or USUM is wrong.
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BW2 and USM are objectively correct.
Stay mad faggot.
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>>32704024
Holy hell this is raw autism. Gonna repost this everyday until USM comes out.
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>>32704286
>I'm saying that people are so stupid they actually think it was always BW2 and USM
Dude, no one bothered with the other 2 when it was revealed because there was no point. Black and White 2 still refers to both sequels just like USM refers to both.
I'm not seeing why you're so angry about this.
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>>32704315
The hell are you on? Everybody used B2W2 until autisitic Redditors took it over and spammed BW2 everywhere. Saying BW2 over B2W2 is literally the "lazy emoji culture" everyone on 4chan hates.
The reason I'm mad is because I keep saying USUM is threads and you stupid Redditfags keep telling me I'm wrong and to start using USM, effectively derailing ANY thread in minutes all because of an acronym.
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>>32704323
>Everybody used B2W2 until autisitic Redditors took it over
No. No they didn't.
You'd see BW/2 which was more in line to how things were originally and that turned to BW2 but B2W2 happened once in a blue moon.
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ULTRA SUMO.
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>this entire thread is basically two guys trying to outbait each other
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>>32704349
I don't think it's so much outbaiting as much as it's one baiter and one legitimate autist.
I mean, no one is this commuted to bait that they would fly into a rage because of an abbreviation.
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>>32704024
You know, you are right... but you are still autistic as fuck
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>>32704367
Unless...
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>>32704386
But he's not right. USM is right.
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>>32704367
More like both of you are autistic baiters who have no lives.
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USM at least sounds catchy, which is up most important in the current generation. If you can't catch there attention, then why even bother ?
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>>32704395
>witnesses are baiters
You have become bait incarnate anon
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>>32704392
But he's right. USM isn't right.
It's not 'Pokémon Ultra Sun and Moon', but 'Pokémon Ultra Sun' and Ultra Moon'.
Ultra Sun = US
Ultra Moon = UM
Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon = US/UM
USM could only be right if the name was "Pokémon Ultra Sun and Moon" but that's objetively false, it's "Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon". It sounds fucking stupid but that's how it is
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>>32704024
it's like how people use BW2 or B2W2. nobody cares unless it's SuMo, then we have a problem
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>>32704411
You do realise that the Ultra is being applied to both games right?
So instead of being Ultra Sun version and then Moon version it's Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon together.
Just like BW2 was it's just that BW2 and USM are more fitting abbreviations.
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>>32704435
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>>32704435
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_%26_White_2
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What if gen 8 games are called Pokemon U____ & S____ , whose third version is Pokemon M____ ?
USUM is the best choice because it allows more possibilities for future games' names.
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>>32704449
BW2 fags blown out literally forever. B2W2 reigns supreme!
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Oh, here's a good one.
Remember Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages?
Guess what?
They call it OoA/S or OoA/OoS. They have NEVER called it OoAS
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>>32704460
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>>32704454
Pokemon Ulna & Scapula followed by Pokemon Metacarpal
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>>32704449
You do realise the first result in google when searching for BW2 is Pokemon right?
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>>32704483
but that doesn't support my argument
this your first time on the internet?
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>>32704460
>They call it OoA/S or OoA/OoS.
Strike another one against OP
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>>32704483
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>>32704501
What about it?
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It's BW2. Using basic regex, the full expression would be (B|W)2, i.e. either Black or White followed by a 2. If you remove the parentheses and vertical bar, you get BW2. It's a similar situation with USM, where the full expression is U(S|M).
Also all the games prior to XY had the word "Version" at the end of its name. Why don't we call RBY RVBVYV instead if mentioning all the words in the name is necessary for the expression? The entire point of these expressions is that you can identify the set of games you're talking about in as few characters as possible.
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>>32704460
Actually they're called OoX when people refer to the two games together.
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>>32704024
I call it Ultra SuMo
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>>32704524
>2017
>still using google
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>>32704534
No one uses Ask anymore old timer
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And now here I come and ask: why even care? Like actually why even care? I've read through the entire thread and I'm dumbfounded at the stupidity in it. People will call it USM or USUM just like how many did with SM/SUMO. If a game appears in the future and it needs the USM abreviation, fine we can change it, now call the previous USM USUM. Nothing is ever set in stone, things always change. And thinking that the only reason people use USM is because they're idiots is idiotic in itself. I want to believe this is bait, but your behavior is telling otherwise.
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>>32704525
That's not how it works Redditfag scum. It's not about describing the games in as few characters as possible. It's about referring to them in the correct manner. If you go by your own twisted logic, (B|W)2 has six things you have to type while B2/W2 only has five, completely destroying your argument. People say B2W2 instead of BW2 because BW2 looks absolutely retarded.
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>>32704525
>It's BW2
Except it's "Pokketo Monsuta Burakku Tsu-Howaito Tsu" (Black 2 White 2), not "Burakku Howaito Tsu" (Black and White 2).
Try again.
>Also all the games prior to XY had the word "Version" at the end of its name.
Except that's wrong you fucktard. "Version" wasn't always used and it's a western thing, the actual name have no "version" at all. It's not "Pokémon Emerald Version" but "Pokémon Emerald" from "Pocket Monsters Emerald", not "Red Version" but "Red", not "Black 2 Version and White 2 Version" but "Black 2 and White 2".
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>>32704542
Because USM is correct. There is no other way to do it, and if you do it any other way, you are wrong.
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>>32704532
USUUMO
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I have read the whole thread and carefully weighed everyone's opinions to help me take a side and I think I've finally come to a conclusion.
I don't care.
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nigga just call it whatever you wan't what the fuck who even cares lol
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>>32704592
Because USM is right.
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>>32704552
>>32704554
You don't quite understand how abbreviations work do you.
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>>32704598
no it's left
what's your point nig if a guy wants to call it USNUMN or Ultra Sol y Ultra Luna it ain't gonna be any different for you it's still gonna be the same game lol
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>>32704051
fpbp
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>>32704628
Because USM is right.
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Call it USUM and say it like Oo-some, like awesome with Oo in the front.
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>>32704267
Nope, BW/2 was used to refer to Black, White, Black 2 and White 2
It's been BW2 or B2W2
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>>32704671
You obviously don't have any idea what you are talking about.
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>>32704671
>BW/2 was used to refer to Black, White, Black 2 and White 2
There was already a catch all term for that anon and it wasn't BW/2
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>>32704051
fpbp
>LE EPIC REDDIT WAR WITH ABBREVIATIONS XD
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>>32704554
We only care about the Western versions, otherwise we would include Pokemon Green with RBY. Also it literally is "Pokemon Emerald Version".
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>>32704024
People say BW2 because the first "2" is arbitrary. Same goes for USM.
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>>32704571
based
We now call it USUUMO to make newfags sperg out
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USM is the only correct choice.
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why not SM2?
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>>32704698
>We only care about the Western versions
>otherwise we would include Pokemon Green
(You)
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>BW2 is okay but USM isn't
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Here are the results from yesterday
Personally, i'm just gonna refer to them as "ultra"
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>>32704962
BW2 isn't OK you retard
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You're not OK.
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>>32704024
i use SM and USUM
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USuUMo
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>>32705638
USuMo
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USUM is the equivalent of saying B2W2
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>>32704800
the correct would be S2M2
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People say BW2 instead of B2W2 because it's aesthetically easier I guess.
I wouldn't be surprised that it's USM considering official Pokemon tweeted out #ultrasunmoon instead of ultra sun ultra moon.
Japanese tweets are also just simplifying it to ultra sun moon as well in their tags.
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>>32704189
Nah, you gotta go UltSuMo. That way, it's easy to pronounce like a word!
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>>32704367
I've seen some shit.
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University of Southern Mississippi is what I'm calling it and you can't fucking stop me, fag
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as USM, is in fact US/UM, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Ultra Sun plus Ultra Moon. USM is not a Pokemon game unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Nintendo 3DS system made useful by the 3d graphics, wireless play and vital system components comprising a full Pokemon Game as defined by GameFreak.
Many /vp/ posters discuss a modified version of a Pokemon every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Pokemon which is widely discussed today is often called "USM", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the US/UM system, developed by the GameFreak.
There really is an Ultra Sun, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Ultra Moon is the other game: the game in the series that has its time shifted by twelve hours. Ultra Sun is an essential part of this generation of games, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete generation of games. Ultra Sun is normally bought in combination with the Ultra Moon game; whole system is basically US with UM added, or US/UM. All the so-called USM discussions are really discussions about US/UM.
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>>32704024
>Implying people actually use B2W2
>Implying sun and moon aren't the same game
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>>32704024
>this entire post
USUMfags, everyone.
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I have been saying usum because you can kinda say it Like how you can sat oras, but this thread makes me want to call it UlSuUlMo
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everyone says B2W2 and USUM, even TPC uses USUM
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>>32704024
I agree with you but you are so mad, holy shit
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>>32704024
Do we use B2W2 or BW2?
The answer is obvious.
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>>32707986
B2W2 because BW2 implies Black (original) and White 2, not Black 2 and White 2.
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>>32704024
There are people dying, Kim.
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>>32704239
>Literally NOBODY used BW2 before Reddit spammed it everywhere.
Oh please shut the fuck up newfag.
Guess how the OU meta was called after BW2?
Yeah, fucking BW2 OU, not B2W2 OU.
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>>32708078
BW2 is ambiguous, BW isn't nor is B2W2
people just type out BW2 because they're lazy, not because it makes common sense
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>>32707967
This - I agree with you but you put a disturbing amount of time into your post
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>>32708078
>NOBODY used BW2 before Reddit spammed it everywhere
http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue22/bw2_ou_meta
Here's an article of early 2013 attesting people have always been using the term BW2.
Proven wrong.
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>>32708172
''Proven wrong'' meant to >>32708098
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>prefer BW2
>prefer USUM
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>>32708185
why are you replying to me when I'm not the same guy?
>>32708201
USUM is official
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You're all fucking wrong.
They're called "Pocket Monsters: Ultra Sun Edition" and "Pocket Monsters: Ultra Moon Edition"
So if you are too lazy to type that out then at least use the proper abbreviation of:
"PM:USE&PM:UME"
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>>32708258
Japan never used "edition", only "version" and even it was exclusive to Crystal
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>>32708268
HEY ANONGo fuck yourself.
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>>32708223
officially wrong
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>>32704024
Whatever is easiest to say.
"USUM" sounds right to me.
And nobody says B2W2 because it's an extra syllable and doesn't roll off the tongue as well as BW2.
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>>32704671
Correct
>>32704684
>>32704685
Wrong
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>>32708501
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/usum/
>opens site of the game
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/usm/
>TPC's version of a 404
really makes you think
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>>32708258
1 There's no "edition" in the japanese versions of the games
2 "Pokémon" is still a official way to short "Pocket Monsters" so the name is (just like the west version) Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon. We don't (neither they does) type "Pokémon" twice because we are talking about 2 different versions of the same basic game so it's legit to say "Pokémon Ruby & Sapphire", "Pokémon Diamond & Pearl", etc, but it's different with Gen 5 games because "Black & White 2" ("BW2") means Black 1 and White 2. It's the same for Gen 7 games, it's Black TWO and White TWO, and ULTRA Sun and ULTRA Moon.
Last gen 5 games are Pokémon Black 2 and White 2, or "Pokémon B2&W2", and last gen 7 games are Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, or "Pokémon US&UM".
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>>32708656
this pretty much ends the debate right here. when people ignore the official source and just continue to live in delusion, there's no point in arguing any further.
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>There are people here who are actually so dumb and unintelligent that they think BW2 can only mean Black 1 and White 2 when it grammatically can also mean "Black and White" 2
The American school system folks.
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>>32708656
>>32709190
This
Feels good not being a USMfag
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>>32704024
UltraSuMo
This is final
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>>32704024
I'll bite the bait.
>People have been spamming USM nonstop due to the whole "USUM reminds me of SuMo so I'm going to use USM because redundant to put the U twice."
No, because USM is just easier to type.
Reading further, the / does ring a belll.
Both USUM and USM work. the former is the official abbr. though. And thank fuck none of them sound retardedUnless you want to read USUM as AWESOME
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U want SUM fuck?
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>>32704024
SuMo was retarded but w.e it's not that big of a deal in the end, I just went on with life. But an abbreviation is really governed by simplification. SM is more acceptable than SuMo as the correct abbreviation, but it's still simplified to a point and in terms of syllables is exactly like SM anyway. It sounds stupid to me still but I don't comment on every fucking post, that just publicly rebounds the autism back on me. I suppose the only other annoyance is that it's hugely influenced reddit, not the most accepted bunch and one step from being tumblr. (As of 4chan isnt either).
USUM makes sense because it's the two part title of both games. Where SuMo had a useless u and o. That being said USM is also acceptable because of what you explained autistically here.
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Based on http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/title/series/
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/other/gb-rg/
Pokémon Red and Pokémon Green = Pokémon R-G
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/gba/fl/
Pokémon FireRed and Pokémon LeafGreen (shortened like if was just Fire-Leaf for some reason) = Pokémon FR-LF
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/other/gbc-gs/
Pokémon Gold and Pokémon Silver = Pokémon G-S
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/
Pokémon HearGold and Pokémon SoulSilver = Pokémon HG-SS
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/gba/rs/
Pokémon Ruby and Pokémon Sapphire = Pokémon R-S
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/oras/
Pokémon OmegaRuby and Pokémon AlphaSapphire = Pokémon OR-AS (well or ΩR-αS, you know)
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/dp/
Pokémon Diamond and Pokémon Pearl = Pokémon D-P
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/series/bw/
Pokémon Black and Pokémon White = Pokémon B-W
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/
Pokémon Black2 and Pokémon White2 = Pokémon B2-W2
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/xy/
Pokémon X and Pokémon Y = Pokémon X-Y
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/
Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon = Pokémon S-M (based on next game's acronym)
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/usum/
Pokémon UltraSun and Pokémon UltraMoon = Pokémon US-UM
"BW2" and "USM" are wrong
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>>32709346
No, Ron. I don't want sum fuk.
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>>32709368
*FR-LG
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USM is perfect because an acronym should also be easy to say, be as short as possible and get the point across. It rolls off the tongue well, is short, and gets the point across with no confusion.
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>>32709368
BW2 and USM aren't official, that doesn't stop fans from making it shorter.
At least it's not something retarded like sumo
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>>32709368
The reason why the acronyms are extended to 4 letters is because the titles have differences in their adjective. You can't call Fire Red Leaf Green just FRLG because each letter is different. USUM has redundancies as both of their titles have the modifier "Ultra" so one of the Us can be removed in favor of a shorter acronym without losing meaning or causing even slight confusion.
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>>32709461
Just FLG* or LGF* Fucked that up.
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>>32709461
>>32709434
it would be fine =/= it's the actual official acronym
I think USUM looks fucking stupid but it's still the acronym of the game
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>>32709472
TPC simply fucked up there but it's FRLG, not FL
they prolly didn't care as much back in 2004
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>>32704024
>S/M became SM
Oh yeah, remember when oldfags used to say S/M way back then? Good ol' times.
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>>32709368
according to pokemon itself, it's b2w2 and usum. again, i have no idea why autists are still arguing for bw2 and usm other than their desire to be lazy...
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>>32709505
You're wrong. Get over yourself. USM is correct, and no amount of whining is going to change that.
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>>32709505
Not what we need to call it, though. No one in common speech or text is gonna call it USUM.
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>>32709543
except half the board does already. stupid leftists spreading their delusional propaganda.
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>>32704098
>can't read a few paragraphs
Threadposter, thou art illiterate.
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>>32709543
people already use B2W2 and USUM and we don't even think when we do
you're just a lazy slob
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>>32709536
He didn't say that's what everyone should do, he's saying is the official way, but it's stupid. He's correct in this, and I will continue to use USM.
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>>32709536
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/usum/
Try again.
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>>32704024
This is actually the most autistic post I've seen on /vp/
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>>32709557
Had nothing to do with being lazy when normal acronym usage shortens things as much as possible and makes them easy to say. That's the purpose of a fucking acronym, you dolt. USUM goes against the point of using an acronym. Not using it. Saying it out loud is an even worse affront.
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>>32704024
People used BW2 from day one you fucking idiot.
If you're too dumb to understand the abbreviation then let me help you out:
Black and White 2 became BW2
Ultra Sun and Moon are becoming USM.
If you want the "culturally implied mathematical parenthesizes" then they would go
(Black, White) 2=>(BW)2
Ultra(Sun, Moon)=>U(SM)
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>>32709583
>Saying it out loud is an even worse affront.
you don't say acronyms out loud, you idiot
and, if you do, you spell the letters
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>>32709620
>People used BW2 from day one you fucking idiot.
same thing with B2W2 and USUM, you fucking moron
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The only reason Gamefreak calls these things B2W2 and USUM is because they can't trust their potentially stupid players to not get confused. If you guys want to use USUM it's fine, but if you criticize people for using USM it just means you assume everyone else is retarded and it makes you look bad by going along with Gamefreak's watered down, babby mode style of doing things and you're part of the problem.
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>>32709623
>You don't use acronyms in speech
You've never talked to an actual person, have you?
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>>32709645
B2W2 doesn't imply Black 2 and White 2, it implies Black 1 and White 2
and there are situations where this actually matters (Reshiram learns Blue Flare in BW2--Black 1, not 2, and White 2)
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>>32709632
B2W2 was always used by a tiny minority. It is comparable to the amount of people using DPP instead of DPPt.
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>>32709645
Nobody is criticizing people using BW2 or USM. That's not the argument here. You can use BW2 or USM all you want, and everyone will get what you mean. The argument here is that there are people SO AUTISTIC that they actually believe B2W2 and USUM are both unofficial and incorrect while BW2 and USM are supported by The Pokémon Company when clear evidence shows otherwise and are continuing to live in delusion by spreading the lie that acronyms are supposed to be as short as possible when that's not how it works. Its abbreviation is dependent on what the creator WANTS it to be abbreviated as, and there are multiple sources showing that the OFFICIAL acronym is USUM. That is the OFFICIAL acronym, and there is NO way around this. It's like all the stupid DiaPers that pronounce Arceus as "ar-sea-us" instead of the official pronounciation "ar-key-us." It's wrong, and nothing's going to change this.
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>>32709682
I ASSUME you meant BW2. However, CONTEXTUALLY when has one (1) acronym ever been used to describe multiple (2+) games of different sub generations ever?
Your argument is absurd and never caused confusion before.
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>>32709733
if you go on bulbapedo to check stuff (and lots of people do), they do this there all the time
it's hardly the best example but it is done on a rather known fan site
>I ASSUME you meant BW2.
exactly, which is why BW2 is ambiguous and B2W2 is not
acronyms are good because they're short but if they are not 100% clear, then they're pretty much useless
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>>32704051
This. USM, USUM, BW2, and B2W2 are fair. When said aloud, "Ultra Sun and Moon" as well as "Black and White 2" both make total sense to all non-retards.
Theoretically slashes/ampersands would change this but there's no reason to use those in the first place. Just don't be an idiot with USUMO and you're fine.
>>32704800
Because it's not a sequel.
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please tell me someone is making an autistic collage of this thread since its what this thread deserves
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>>32709682
Why does Black, and White 2 need an abbreviation? The amount of scenarios you would need to refer to just those two games are very few. Abbrevations are used for long terms that are frequently brought up. You're example isn't even true, Reshiram has the same level-up movepool in all gen V games.
It's like saying RS should be RuS since once in a blue moon you want to refer to Red and Sapphire together.
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>>32704965
I kinda like that actually
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>>32709785
>Why does Black, and White 2 need an abbreviation
it doesn't, which is exactly why BW2 is dumb
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>>32704542
>it's dumb to care about linguistic coherency and consistency.
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>>32709760
Bulbapedo really isn't the best example. But that's literally the only place it seems to be a problem, and even then it doesn't justify changing the acronym and making it harder for everyone else.
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>>32709859
OK, I agree
the problem is that people criticize those who use B2W2 and USUM even though it's correct and official
no one is really asking BW2fags and USMfags to stop being themselves but they are obnoxious
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>>32709806
BW2 is used for Black 2 and White 2 and is shorter and easier to type than B2W2, the whole point of abbreviations. And since you would have to be a moron to think it referred to Black 1 and White 2 then there should be no problem.
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>>32709927
>and easier to type than B2W2
it takes the same amount of time, you scrub
git gud at pressing keys on a keyboard
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>>32709899
I agree with you they can use those as well. Either one is technically correct, one is a more feasible acronym and one is the official one, which can't be argued.
The reason offenders are everyone else like USUMO and shit.
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>>32709932
>Making an acronym longer because it proves my superiority
Don't tip your fucking fedora at me.
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>>32709932
Oh sorry, should probably type out Pokémon Black 2 and Pokémon White 2 each time. Won't save any time in the long run at all due to my well honed key pressing skills.
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>>32709946
>>32709974
now seriously, I don't notice a difference in typing 2 twice, it barely takes another second, if that much at all
muh it's faster is reasonable if you guys are slow at typing or something
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>>32704098
>having ADD
>calling others autistic
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USM makes a better COLLOQUIAL acronym for most, if not all, intents and purposes.
Official shit is just there to be as clear as possible so idiots don't get confused and get them sued or make an autistic shitfit. Those who use it are not at all incorrect, but the usage is needlessly less efficient, however only slightly. Really no reason for concern.
End of story.
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>>32710012
It's inimical to the purpose of an acronym and you know it. It's not a matter of time. I'm not judging people for using USUM, but you brought elitism into this.
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>>32709821
Excuuuse me princess, but your in a AMERICAN site.
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>>32710035
But that's the problem. USM fags keep calling out people using USUM in every single thread and telling them they're wrong when they're not. Its the USM fags who won't shut the hell up and leave the official USUM abbreviation alone.
Basically:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7umpTk05HgI
Carlson is USUM
and the racist lady is USM
Completely delusional, demented, and insane. They don't shut up and demand that THEIR way is right when it's not.
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>>32710012
Please tell me you aren't unironically calling "it's faster" a unreasonable point when discussing acronyms. Yeah you're saving like a quarter of a second every time, but I'm probably going to refer to them a lot in the upcoming months, then it saves up a significant amount of time in the long run. That's the whole point of abbreviations.
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>>32709946
>being on the Internet
>being on a text message board (with images)
>not typing at least 90 WPM
And I type faster than that, so 90 WPM really should be the baseline.
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>>32708656
/thread
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>>32710072
Each side had their autistics. This is true in every facet of life, especially politics. Just don't attribute faults to a specific side, but specific special snowflakes, and you'll have a better time and get better results.
When I see on the news a conservative saying "liberals are like this" or vice versa, all I can do is shake my damn head, family.
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>>32708656
/thread
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>>32708501
I say USM and you're retarded.
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UMUS
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>>32704024
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>>32710422
>waterfox
>actually using a Firefox fork
lol
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>This whole thread
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Just call it Ultra S&M
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>>32704024
>B2/W2 became B2W2
No it fucking didn't, nobody says B2W2, everybody says BW2
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>>32711557
BW2fags, everyone
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>>32711569
I've never seen a person say B2W2 on /vp/ before this thread.
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>>32711557
>>32711584
I've ALWAYS said B2W2, you're full of shit.
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>>32711584
it has been in use ever since GF announced the games
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>>32711591
>https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp
>BW2
>27943 results
>B2W2
>6882 results
That's 5/6, close enough for a 'everybody' hyperbole.
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>>32711634
you'll also find more posts calling you a faggot than actually having a conversation with you but I guess you're going to excuse it as well
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>>32711643
I see nothing wrong with stating that everyone calls each other faggots on /vp/. If that is what you're implying.
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>#PokemonUltraSunMoon
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>>32711823
>TPCi over TPC
lol
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ULTRA SUMO
>ULTRA SUMO
ULTRA SUMO
>ULTRA SUMO
ULTRA SUMO
>ULTRA SUMO
ULTRA SUMO
>ULTRA SUMO
ULTRA SUMO
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>>32709368
>>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/gba/fl/
>Pokémon FireRed and Pokémon LeafGreen (shortened like if was just Fire-Leaf for some reason) = Pokémon FR-LF
By your reasoning it's officially Pokémon F-L
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>>32704534
>current year faggot
>using any search engine other than google
>smug anime gril
Christ what level of irony are you on
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RBY
GSC
RSE FRLG
DPPt HGSS
BW BW2
XY ORAS
SM USM
It's simple stuff.
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>>32712046
*B2W2
*USUM
my bad
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>>32712067
You are fake news.
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>>32704051
>Implying autism isn't the only reason humans aren't still in trees.
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>>32704024
What does it matter unless you can't understand what they are talking about?
USM or USUM, I know what they mean, so it's a non-issue to anyone who isn't a retarded control freak.
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its always been SUMO, so now its USUUMO
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>>32704024
Out of habit I just started saying USUM but I'm starting to like USM. It's simpler. The reason I hated SUMO was because SM serves the same purpose and it's simpler. USM serves the same purpose as USUM and honestly looks better. USUM is UGLY.
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>>32704024
I'm not gonna read all that.
Just know that BW2 always was the more popular abbreviation.
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>>32704024
USM and USUM are both valid terms.
>The abbreviation was NEVER (BW)2
I've seen a lot more people refer to Black 2 and White 2 as BW2 (and also Black and White as BW1) than B2W2. B2W2 is also fine but don't act like it's common.
I just really hope "SuMo" dies off now, but I imagine shitposters will keep using terms like "USuMo" just to shitpost.
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>>32709434
>USM is perfect because an acronym should also be easy to say
Is there really any difference in the pronunciation of USM and USUM? I feel like both would be "us'm," but maybe that's because I'm American.
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>>32709682
Do you get confused when people say RSE because it might mean "Red, Silver, and Emerald?"
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Alright cool, glad we could settle that this debate is dumb, they're both correct, and people who get autistic over one or the other are no better than SuMo and DiaPer faggots.
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I'm gonna call it Ultra SuMo and you can't stop me, anon.
:^)
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>>32709656
I think he means you don't pronounce acronyms, at least in reference to Pokémon games. It sounds incredibly awkward to say aloud "Arbee double-you" instead of just saying "red, blue, and yellow," or "jee-ess-see" instead of "gold and silver"
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>>32712975
In a conversation, I'd probably just say Gen 1/2/etc.
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>>32711634
As much as USM is okay to use, a lot of BW2 results are JUST for the the sequels and not for the entire gen.
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>>32711860
Thank fuck the games weren't called Mega Sun and Mega Moon with a Mega Hariyama
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>>32713416
>Mega Hariyama
>when we get Ultra Evolutions instead
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>>32708656
I'm convinced.
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>>32704024
>No one would call it DPt, because "t" does not stand for "Platinum."
Official merch, lad. Plenty of people adopted it.
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>>32704449
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>>32705638
UlSuUlMo
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Since the abreviation to Ultra Moon is UM and the abreviation to Ultra Sun is US the only logical combination of those are USUM.
USM is the combination olf Ultra Sun and regular Moon, and nothing more than that.
Also, if you are refering to Black, White, Black 2 and White 2 at the same time you say 5th gen, not some random arrrange of letters.
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B2W2 and USUM are the official abbreviations but for convenience sake BW2/USM is perfectly fine because everyone knows what you mean, it's a context thing like with all abbreviations.
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>>32711883
OK. Say FL then, but don't say BW2 or USM
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>>32715532
At least someone isn't braindead here.
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>>32715486
Why would anyone need to group Ultra Sun and regular Moon together?
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ULTRA SUMO
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>>32716185
I didn't say I agreed with your logic
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>>32717149
>my
>implying
Just stay mad you stupid USMfag
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>>32717321
University of Southern Mississippi is a college of peace
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>>32704024
>"B2/W2 became B2W2"
>using "troll" unironically
>finishing your wall-text with "understand?"
Holy shit. Not only you're a huge newfag, but it's impossible you're older than 13.
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