PTCG/PTCGO General

Asking again in new bread

Is it normal that my Lunala ETB had 3 Fairy, 4 Psychic, 6 Fire, and 7 Metal instead of 5 of everything?

>>32637818
Yes.

Third for Sylveon is ridiculous and The Pokémon Company doesn't care about balance as long as each new set introduces cards that can't be beat by cards from the previous set.

>>32637940

Sylveon is only ridiculous if you're ridiculously bad. Learn how to time your N's and don't waste resources and you should auto win every game if you play a deck that's not shit.

if you lose to sylveon it's your fault.

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Can't wait for SR Fairy energy.

>>32637940
>Sylveon
>ridiculous

Say that to trash bag mon you idiot.
Daddy Sylveon has done nothing wrong

>"I'm so sick of Darkrai!"
>"I'm so sick of Yveltal!"
>Garbodor comes and kills them
>"UNFAIR BAN THIS CARD"

>>32638056

Doesn't Sylveon run hammers, Max Potion and VS Seeker?

Got a decklist that beats Garb?

>>32637974
It's worse than a mill deck in every regard. You need to OHKO three in a row.

Set up your bench and they either Lysandre or GX two of them back and continue disrupting.

Can't OHKO? They just max potion and attach another basic energy. Run hex maniac? You lost the coin flip. Run Carbink? They have a silent lab etc.

It is obviously beatable, but it shouldn't be this easy to consistently disrupt ANY opponent without punishment. And it looks like it's only going to get worse next set.

I just concede as soon as I see a Sylveon, would rather get onto an actual competitive and fun match as opposed to 20+ minutes of nothing.

To be honest I just feel bad for anyone that actually plays Sylveon.

>>32638056
There are ways around Garbodor and it makes matches more complex as opposed to brain dead.

>>32638084
this. I'm a fairy fucker, but I'd rather keep playing m-gard despair ray, than shaming myself at building a sylveon deck.

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>>32638084
>>32638095

Feed me more

>>32638095
M garde despair ray is so suffering. I thought 2 lele 2 stretcher 1 oricorio would help with the brick hands, I even added skyla, but my hands are straight up masonry son. Maybe it's time to get a 4th shaymin

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>on the VS ladder
>face the only man playing M Scizor
>He Lele's into Skyla
>Skyla into N

>>32638137
Did you win though?

>>32638111
Run Mallow.
Then You can stretcher a Dragonite, pull a Lele and a Shaymin for what ever two cards you need. Also it's 3 stretchers.

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>>32638152

He conceded right after.

>>32638111
>>32638171

What's your decklist?
I have three fairy challenges and would like an updated Despair Ray.

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>>32638179
>lurantis bulu
You wouldn't fuck a bug

>>32638179
Jesus Christ the cards in this game look like shit.

>>32638179
>blingfags

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So how are you guys dealing with Sylveon being the strongest?

>>32638258
>strongest
>cant even make top 32

uh.......

>>32638288
>shitty regional
>mattering

???

>>32638301
>deck that's shit in a best of three
>mattering

???

>>32638306
>Your opinion
>mattering

???

>>32638311
>"opinion"

Ok kid, have fun with all your rounds going to time.

>>32638288
>>32638301
>>32638306
>>32638311
>Greentext
>Greentext

???

>>32638315
I'll be having fun when you start complaining here that i'm taking too long.

>>32638328
That's not specific to sylveon players. The timer system is just shit.

>>32638021

>making secret rare energies as an booster pull

DISGUSTING

>>32638258
i want a Delinquent Sylveon to hammer me until my prostate Flares up and my life N's

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>>32638356
Dude Nice

>>32638356
I say it'd take quite a bit of Handiwork to recover from that

Sylveon is kinda shit from what I've seen. Control is all well and good but it's not the same as winning.

>>32638429
Once Silent Lab rotates out it get hard countered by Carbink in all relevant scenarios. It already has a tough time dealing with some decks. That said it destroys absolutely anything that needs to set up. Also kills item lock.

>>32638137
So he could use VS seeker for Skyla and search some item he need? I think he just put that card on the trash for that...

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Shit, I think I waited forever, but it's finally here.

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>>32638466

Anybody got a good Espeon deck?

>>32638482
Garb

>>32638102
Hurrrrr durp xD I'm le epic trell BC I like le card you don't like XD TROLLED FOR LE EPIC WIN XD

Nah, faggot, I don't give a shit about you personally and I run a Sylveon deck as well, I still think the card itself is ridiculous at the very least in terms of energy costs. You're not a special snowflake for running le epic card that is generally disliked and you should go back to le raddit.

>>32637974
I don't like running N and the idea that its necessary to stand a chance against Syl is ball-slapping stupid.

>>32638056
I can consistently beat Garbodor with my Elixir/WaterPatch Lapras deck, Garbodor is crazy good but it isn't near the level of unfun and brain-dead that Syl is.

>>32638073
Kek

>>32638137
He probably was looking for something specific that turned out to be prized.

Unbelievable that you could not conceive of a possible reason for a player to have done that other than "heh he's obviously of inferior intellect ;)"

>>32638454
Another plausible reasoning.

>>32638498
>Don't like running N

Nigga what

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Wew Lad

Seriously on the Sylveon discussion.

>Magical ribbon max potion and energy
>Repeat
>Repeat
>Repeat
>Magical ribbon 2PuzzleOfTime and Energy, grab two potions
>Potion for the turn
>Potion for the next turn
>Magical ribbon 2PuzzleOfTime and Energy, grab two potions
>Potion for the turn
>Potion for next turn

All they had to do was make magic ribbon cost one additional colorless.

Also, it baffles me how they can make shit like Syl so stupidly broken as outlined above (8 max potions accessible for a 200HP mon whenever you like at no penalty is broken as fuck) and at the same time they can make WishiWashi so unbelievably garbage.

>Five energy for an enhanced hammer. All they had to do to make it viable was allow it to kill any energies.

>>32638084
>I just feel bad for anyone that actually plays Sylveon
I don't feel bad for them, I just am severely disappointed in TPC for introducing a card that makes the game this fucking brain-dead.

I started playing this game a few months ago and I think Sylveon will be the reason I quit. I don't even run into it often but it's just so egregiously unbalanced of a card that this game is not worth investing in anymore because clearly they are incapable of fostering a fun and competitive roster.

>>32638356
i'd let Sylveon handiwork my rocket

>>32638776
>>32638716
>>32638658

it baffles me how anyone can lose to sylveon. Like, I just don't understand. Are you mentally retarded? Do you just play awful decks?

If sylveon keeps using magical ribbon and doesn't attack you or place damage on you, guess what? They can't win either. Use that to your advantage. If you can't, you're pretty much just letting a deck of troll supporters beat you, which means you have a shit deck or you're too impatient/stupid(!) to deal with stall.

Max potion doesn't matter if you can keep hitting them while they're being faggots searching for cards. They discard your energy? Attach another one, or stop being fucking stupid with your attachments and attaching to the active when you know they have a grunt, dumbass. How about hold that DCE and wait until you can N them and catch them with a bad hand? Oh yeah, by the way you even have the advantage of using N to erase their magic ribbons whenever you need to, that should put the advantage heavily in your favor especially if you run 3-4 N and Lele.

oh and if it's impossible for your deck to hit 200 damage or at least 2HKO with minimal energy investments, guess what? You're not running a competitive deck anyway and deserve to get wrecked.

I agree it's a shit card, but it's NOTHING compared to sableye from a few formats ago. There are so many more shit overpowered unbalanced cards to whine about, I don't know why you picked sylveon to complain about.

>>32639071

I mean, it is nothing like Sableye in terms of disruption, you're right. Sableye was nothing like Sylveon it terms of damage, though. And Sylveon has no problems shifting gears from disruption to attack mode if you decide to get cute with energy attachments, Ns, and everything else you rambled on about. This isn't like Wailord where a good player could beat it 90% of the time if they had a gameplan going in. Don't get me wrong, if you've got gameplan going into the Sylveon matchup, I'm sure you can easily be favored, but don't throw around that hyperbole about needing to be retarded to lose to it. The deck has offensive capabilities on par with other decks and that's what makes it a threat.

>>32639071
Holy shit, that projection was astounding.

Insecure about your intelligence?

Sylveon Gx is an interesting card but have you tried teching a a couple of lines of trevenant?

>Sylveon can't ko without Kukui
>Not a gx
>if the sylveon has more than 7 supporters/Trainers in hans it dies
>Runs on 2 colorless energy so it can be put into any deck

>>32638356
>tfw you'll never sycamore away your life and get a new one

>Play honchkrow
>Battle a deck wizard all exs deck with 4 pokemon center healing ladies.

The ultimate counter...

>>32639153
>Tech a stage one in

I don't want to sacrifice 4 spots in my decks. This problem could have so easily been avoided if Magical Ribbon cost [F][C].

Wahh
1 energy

wahh

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>>32639306
>I don't want to adapt
I don't know what to tell you then. Whining won't do shit about it.

>>32639365
I know, I'm just disappointed. Thank you for the suggestion.

What deck should I make? I've tried a bunch of new stuff; none of it is as fun as Despair Ray Gard for me, but that's shit now.
And why the fuck are so many people running hammers these now?

>>32639702
Sableye Vileplume
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHVs6S7nIE

>>32639734
That actually looks pretty fun, thanks.

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>>32639734
>limitation
>pass
>Limitation
>pass
fun indeed

>>32639784
I imagine it works well with Trev

>>32639784
Get ready to have your ass pounded in sylveon

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Post your leles bois

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>>32640050
Bought a single GR earlier, got lucky. May whoever redeems this code have some similar luck.

>>32639702
I'm just running my old yanmega deck.
It's not optimal because I haven't played since SS and I'm missing a bunch of cards, but it fucks with all the energy denial decks.

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Bow Down

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>>32637789
Someone got the original picture without the watermark?

Is here a please go check the top 8 decks of the last tournament?

>>32641436
yes, they have it on the official site and they also have 9 different garbodor lists on charizardlounge.

>people who hide their decklist

lmao

Can I use US cards in the UK? Including in tournaments. Is there any difference at all?

>>32642213

nope, you'll get banned.

I once went to a tournament with mexican energy. Never making that mistake again

>>32642221
Mexican is gonna be in Spanish though, and I'm pretty sure the UK cards have American spelling

Oh well

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>>32640050

I'm not sure if I'll ever need a forth. Super Scoop-up is coming back after all.

Is the meta still full of decks with EX that can 1HKO anything? I left around roaring skies time because I got sick of those type of decks, and I was just wondering if the meta slowed down at all.

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>>32640050
;^) all legit pulls

>>32638466
Is this official? Where can i some?

>>32642493
GX now, more disruption and irritating garbage, goal is to still hit big but I think that's just what the game is. Feels less rewarding to make creative decks now than before imo.

>>32642526
Yes. Order them from Nippon for ridiculous prices.

>>32642622
Finally I can have a waifu sleeve without having the judge making me unsleeve my custom one.

HKY-(Charizard)D(Blastoise)N-(Charizard)QT-YMM

If you post pulls I have another

>>32642607
One reason I loved ptcg so much was because of all the fun and goofy decks you could make. EX were a mistake.

God damn, Mallow is freaking hot.

>expanded tourney is giving out Emerging Powers and XY base set
>only way to get Guardians is theme
Uh

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>>32643109
Thanks anon!

>>32643419

Here's the other like I said. Don't forget to post pulls.

HN(Squirtle)-KTP(Squirtle)-DT(Squirtle)-(Squirtle)TN

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>>32643498

Thanks, Anon!

>>32643144

Lana soon

>>32643144
>>32643954

>tfw you know you're gonna blow all you can to get a FA acerola as soon as she gets a card, no matter how bad it is

>>32643972
There's something else I'll be blowing.

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what is going on

>>32643998

usually glitches for me after the first round

chances are it didn't reset

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>>32643972
>as soon as she gets a card
So, in Burning Shadows?

>>32644023
Oh I'll definitely be getting two or three of those for my Koko deck. I don't care how many packs they will be

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I'm the best theme lunala player in the world

Anyway what do these trophies thingies do ? Some of them can be trade unlocked ?

>>32644023

Something is burning in the shadows allright

If you know what I mean

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>when your opponent thinks trash garb is good enough for expanded

>>32644152

they keep track of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finishes, nothing else

>>32644167
Dunno but I've been seeing it a lot in expanded recently for no real good reason other than:

>in expanded they rush through their deck fast so I'll do damage faster!

But let's ignore how archeops literally shits evolution decks and that sableye exists.
Oh and night march does the whole one prize attack thing better.

>>32644253
Evolution decks should run evosoda or wally to get around archeops tbbh

>>32644350
The more you fill your deck with shit like that, the more you're likely to just clog up your deck and die.

There's a reason that even greninja just accepts the archeops auto-loss if it comes down early enough and some just decide to run no evosodas and only one wally.

>>32644363

Considering the amount of stage 2 gx that they're pushing I'd expect at least some evo support in the next few sets, so maybe that won't necessarily still be the case moving forward

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Suggestions on how to improve this deck? Just started out, finished grinding packs and bought a couple more. I made this with what I pulled and some of the Lunala starter deck. Ran this for about 10 games in standard and only lost once.

General strategy at the moment is get Trevenant and Drampa out, load em up with energy and swing, switching out depending on the situation.

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>opponent uses hammer
>works 100% of the time

>>32644515

Considering adding ultraballs if you depend on a big pokemon that you don't have many of in your deck, and also more big time drawing supporters like sycamore, N, Hala, Lillie... Any that can give you a new hand if you run out / if your hand is bricked.

Ultraball also synergizes with those because for those of them that just draw you up to a certain number, ultraball can allow you to discard stuff that you don't need so you can dig deeper

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>opponent plays shaymin-ex

Thanks for the 2 prizes nerd

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>>32644614
>opponent plays Tapu Lele GX

Thanks for the 2 prizes, faggot.

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>>32644614
>There's two shaymins on the bench

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>>32644614
>>32644629
>Opponent plays Pokémon

Thanks for the prize cards, fool

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>opponent goes all-in on nightmarch when they saw me compressor a karen

>Play bidoof
>win

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BEST IN WORLD

>that last match against some guy with a green XY theme deck with lysandre, vs seeker, sycamore and pokemon center lady

Jesus that was tight, that deck is unfair in this format

>>32644614
Someone's it has to be played or you'll lose anyway

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>>32644152
>>32645295

You're good. Can you stop begging for praise now, fag?

>>32645391

Okay now rub my tummy while I roll on the floor

Sylveon GX is the best

What should a post-Guardians Volcanion deck look like? How well does it stand up to Garbodor?

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>>32645887
>They introduced control decks into pokemon
>It's everything I ever wanted
We need Jace and Sylveon art

I don't get all the sylveon hate. I've not ran into any issues against it, it's basically just a lesser Junk Hunt w/ Puzzle of Time. And even THAT, as stupid as it is, isn't impossible to beat.

y'all need to get good at this children's card game instead of complaining about it

>>32646045
Jace and Shiny Sylveon*

>>32642607
>>32643132
Quit playing standard. Expanded and Legacy are still full of wacky decks that are fun to play.

>>32637789

god mallow makes my dick so hard.

>Charizard's GX attack

OH BABY

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>>32646263
Charizard-GX – Fire – HP250
Stage 2 – Evolves from Charmeleon
[C][C][C] Wing Attack: 70 damage.
[R][R][R][C][C] Spirit Tempest: 300 damage. Discard 3 [R] Energy from this Pokemon.
[R][C][C] Raging Out GX: Discard the top 10 cards from your opponent’s deck. (You can only use 1 GX attack per game.)
When 1 of your Pokemon-GX is Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Water (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2

>>32646274
>discard top ten cards
wew

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>>32646274
It's shit

>>32646274

it's amazing! I can't wait for supporter or tool which let us re-use GX attacks :^)

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>>32646356

>>32646274
I want to make a Charizard Sylveon deck
*thinks*

>>32646356
>Pokemon tool card
>If the pokemon this card is attached to uses a GX attack, flip a coin. If heads, don't flip your GX emblem.

>>32646398

don't tempt fate pls

>>32646362
more like a Charizard-Houndoom deck

>>32646402
>Meowth-GX (60HP)
>Ability Payday: Treat all coin flips made during your turn as heads
>Golden Shower GX: This attack does 50 damage times the number of heads you have flipped in this match

:^)

>>32646420

as long as there's a lysandre around that sounds fair i mean

How long untill the type of limited tournaments available changes in the tcgo ?

is it every day or every week or what

this game don't want connect with internet... jesus [plus sleeves textures are buggy as fuck during duel]

>>32646485
Type of limited tournaments
You mean rewards? Every week.
If you mean type Standard, Expanded and Legacy are always there, then sometimes a 24 tickets tournament appears, usually standard.

>>32646274
Why'd they make his first attack 3 colourless? It's just bad.

What was the point of making such a useless card?

>>32644160
anon you should probably seek medical assistance.

>>32646060
Its not very good. Games against it tend to be long and slow though since the player is searching every turn. On the versus ladder this is a pain. In RL this just doubles the likelihood of it never doing anything remotely decent competitively.

>>32646791
So he has something to do if he's in the active spot building up energy obvioisly. Did you really need that question to be answered?

At least it's better than WiWaGX.
>Do 20 damage while you try to attach 4 more energy without dying so you can do 120 damage :^)

>>32646844
It's released alongside Kiawe, as result the energy cost is actually basically irrelevant since you can power it up on the first turn.

Honestly though the issue is that it's second attack requires you to fucking discard 3 fucking energy for an attack that literally overkills everything in the fucking game as is. If it did 200 DMG for 2 energy discard then it would be decent or if it did 200 dmg and you can't attack next turn then it would be decent but the fact that you discard three energy all at once makes it absolute shit.

And it's GX attack is hot garbage, it's trying to be a lategame win condition but the other attacks are trying to end the game through prizes. There's no synergy.

>>32646887
>as result the energy cost is actually basically irrelevant since you can power it up on the first turn

>see 1st turn Charmander charged 4 energies
>Lele into Lysandre
>smack Charmander by Tauros, optionally with FFB if it needs 70 to KO

>>32646887
Your a fuckin retard.

He can use the 70 damage attack after he discards three energy. How is this concept difficult for you to comprehend? You won't always have access to kiawe.

>>32646920
That's part of the issue as well with any charizard strat and it needing a rare candy + evo as well.

But literally about no tauros runs FFB now, you'd just hit it with the lele itself.

>>32646962
>lol its fine just do 70 dmg next turn
>and then fucking 3HKO shit when they 2HKO you back

You're probably gonna try to back pedal then and say >but then you can attack with the 2nd move again!

No you can't because it fucking discards specifically 3 FIRE energy and not energy in total.

It's 2nd attack is hot shit, it discard way too much and overkills way too hard.

>>32647005
I didn't say it was a good or effective attack but it does give the Mon something to do when it isn't fully powered and if you can't comprehend that then you are incredibly stupid.

>>32647005
>But literally about no tauros runs FFB now, you'd just hit it with the lele itself.
Just an option. You'll need two Lele or one switch for this. Or escape rope if opponent has only mon on the bench.

>>32646791

>fucking gf, stop shilling charizard!
>make shitty card, almost useless
>ew, gf, what a bunch of morons

>>32647061

I know that gf isn't responsible for card game

>>32647005

eee...maybe I'm retarded but there's literally Fenergy supply for these 3 energies, you only need rotate between charizard and the supply

>>32647072

>use ho-oh to put 3 charizards on your bench
>use kiawe x3 and set substitutes/whatever
>1hko everything with supply support
>you can also move all energies to one charizard for 4th attack

>>32647084

Ho-oh-incineroar-charizard meta

jesus

>>32647101

wew, it could be worse, we could get a card that changes all evolved mon on your discard pile into fire types

Greninja break is a dumb deck for dumb people with no resource management or decision making, built around abusing a pokemon who's every stat is grossly inflated and auto losing when you don't get your turn 2 bullshit.

Carry on.

>>32647084
Kiawe x3 is gonna take 3 whole turns of not attacking. Kinda slow without Wish Baton.

>>32642238
Yep. In LA we are allowed to use Spanish, English, Portuguese and French cards.

YZ9-QRVT-6CR-2XP

Make sure you post what you pull!

>>32643526
Nnoooiiicee

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>>32647195
thank

>>32646274
Only liked the GX.

Question for my m gard ex players
Turn one seems to be the most important turn in the deck and I daresay piloting it past turn 1 is braindead because all you're trying to do is blast shaymins into dudes. The question is: hoopa lines and lele lines. Getting hoopa in hand is the first priority, and I typically try to grab 2 garde ex and 1 shaymin. Is that optimal? Do any of you grab perhaps a garde ex, m garde ex, and a shaymin? Then lele. The best case scenario is you throw her down turn 1 to thin the deck. I like turn 1 mallow for a guaranteed 2 combo cards, but is it perhaps wiser to go hex maniac?

Also curious to see if anyone has tried to tech in genesect ex for cheeky drive changing

>>32647255

Piloting m gard is never brainless and the deck is about resource management, keeping your shaymins, dragonites and one lele in your deck for as long as possible.

Most of the time you don't want to grab three things with hoopa ex, especially not right at the beginning, because bench space is critical, you brick HARD if you fill your bench too fast and can't find all you need to attack (and compared to a lot of other decks, it's a lot - 4 cards on top of your basic).

With your hoopa you grab whatever you need based on your hand, there's not a set solution.

>>32646274

Jesus what a bad card. Will Chaizard ever not be big cost/big damage shit?
It's gonna be popular in the physical game and vise like $20.

Resell dem Chaizards, lads. :^)

>>32647772
if they made charizard a non shit card it would be too expensive for kids to play with.

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Used to play tcg way back when, trying to relearn so i can annoy my nephew that has gotten to the age where pokemon is great.

2 main questions, is garbodor one of the best (semi) budget options right now, because it seems really solid? leaning towards a bunnelby/garb kinda mill deck.

and is the GUR whiscash good enough to make a meme deck out of ( i was thinking mallow +octillery but that might be too much deck thinning)?

>>32647837
Garbodor is everyone's favorite. People are either playing it or trying to play around it. So yeah, for maybe 8 USD at most you can pick up a playset, even though you only need 3. Bear in mind that it does much better with GX partners like Drampa or Espeon, but those aren't necessarily bank breakers.

GUR Whiscash is a known meme deck. A similar option that's slightly easier to use is Typhlosion, but you can give Whiscash a try if you're looking to dick around.

>>32647893
appreciated.

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>>32646274
>discar 3 energy
Maybe blacksmith is getting reprinted

>>32648312
>Blacksmith being reprinted when volcanion is still standard

God no

>>32648312
>he doesn't know about Kiawe

>>32647837
according to recent results, Garb is the best deck in format. People are still figuring out how to play around it, most of the top tier decks use item-heavy engines. Once people start building without, Garb will drop a bit, but for now it's absolutely a fantastic deck.

PRC Whishcash makes for a better deck if it's the Pokémon you want to use rather than the card. But GUR Whiscash can work as a meme. The Sorched Earth/Mallow engine is not to be trifled with now that Garb is the meta, plus of course it works nicely with the attack. But it will only ever be a meme since the energy cost is so steep. Still, a fun deck when it works.

Is it safe to consider Garb the new anti-meta deck?
It makes opponents not want to set up as fast as they can which is literally every top tier deck.

>>32648587
I tweaked my Darkrai deck a couple of days ago and haven't had many issues with Garb. I'm very strict with my item use, and maybe run a lot more energy than necessary, but it reduces the need for items as it's simple.

>>32648669
Show it to me senpai

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>that feeling when you plug your boot into some mongoloid's ass after they spam well played over and over
>force them to concede/deck out and spam hello

>>32648601
Yeah but it cripples you against decks that don't rely on item cards to be strong.

>>32648587
>your turn ends
no thanks annon

>>32648708
Can't get to the tcgo atm, but I remember some stuff

Darkrai EX
Yveltal
Lele
Sudowoodo
4 N, Sycamore, ultra ball and Lysandre. Stadium that reduces retreat for dark and psychic, elixers are the only really necessary items here because I run 2 vs seeker, not massively important but helpful. Also 4 Choice Band, helps out a lot more than I thought. Exp share is also useful just to keep that energy in play.
I have like 14 energy too.

I made a couple of tweaks due to some suggestions I got yesterday, but you can play around with it easily and find something more consistent, because it's not amazing desu. Just works really well against Garb, I can either kill the Trubbish almost constantly denying the set up, or just have so few items used that it isn't a threat.

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>>32648853
>sacrificing one turn for five turns worth of energy attachment

>>32648867
>still trying to play Darkrai in Garbodor meta
Do you just go in hoping they won't draw Field Blower?

>>32648882
If they run 2 and actually use them, it can easily get tough, otherwise it hasn't been too bad at all. And that's only happened once where 2 exp share and a choice band were prized, but I still managed to pull through.

>>32648779
Sometimes I spam well played if they are not doing anything (i mean literally). Like if they are just not putting their pokemon down at the start of the game, "Well played!".

That being said I fuckin hate when people are just rude for no reason. Like sending stupid msgs or emojis when they get a kill. Or you let them get the final kill rather than concede and they just spam you to gloat instead of just take their kill since you're showing them the consideration.

>>32649445
when they're taking forever to play I spam Hello!

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Ideas? Trying to see how lean I can go on items.

>>32649971
Why you don't use Carbink break or Rayquaza for energy acceleration?

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>haven't really been playing the ladder
>just got up to the pack on the first tier
>open it
wew lad

>>32648834

Only one that comes to mind is Greninja?

>>32650049
because carbink is too slow for the amount of space it takes up, and ray is only good in dce decks

>>32649971
I play quad Zygarde now and again. May as well go all out T1 wins. Choice Band, Kukui, 2 Brooklet/4 Scorched, 4 Mallow.

Is there any way to make a Passimian deck even work well enough to not lose every game?

>>32650472
No. Mememonkey is a meme for a reason. It's not a real deck.

>>32650075
That fucking Bronzong one that faggots still have a boner for.

>>32646887
>since you can power it up on the first turn
Second, at earliest. And you'd only be able to attack starting turn three, and only every other turn.
Card's shit, best Kiawe target will be the mega zards.

>>32647108
You just described every viable deck but vespiquen.

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>put down trubbish
>opponent concedes instantly

Fuck you and your shaymeme 10-hour setup deck, buttmunch.

>>32650722
>opponent is running garb
>drop lele into brigette t1, N into ultra ball into solgaleo and a sol burst t2
>total items played:1


this kills the garbagebag.

>>32650830

may want to count again my nigga

>>32650895
still one.

>>32650924

count for a third time my dude

>>32650930
one ultra ball = one

>>32650945

how are you getting a solgaleo out on t2

and don't say wally because you are already playing briggette and N

>>32650830
>t2
>stage 2
meanwhile the other players drampa is actually hitting for 180 t2

>>32650953
you know I didn't even make the original post but i still got owned. fuck.

Got a couple of those legacy bundles hoping for some energy.

Landed the one electric holo and a couple of special energy.

We will never have nice looking energy again.

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>>32651076
?Doesn't know about the SR energy.

>>32651099
Those look horrible.

>>32651122
but its a great card?

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>>32637789
>Opening randomly acquired packs
>Shaymin EX

I quit

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>>32651076
I think the Generations energies look pretty nice, the stripes are quite stylish.

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Sylveon's true purpose.

>>32651177
u maek me sick!

>>32642622

these aren't on ebay so i might have to actually order off a japanese site

>>32651177
This is literally the most awful build I've seen in a while. Here's some bullet points.

>11 energy with mix of 8/3
>10 total basics so your chance to start with anything consistent is utter shit
>big malsada, nice theme deck
>cassius in this sort of deck
>ninja boy at a fucking 4 count
>no head ringer, whistle
>fucking skyla
>town map because you can't memorize your prizes

It's complete shit.

>>32651177
>>32651177
>Expanded

0/10 does not pass the night march test.see you after class

>>32651177
is to lose. Congratulations.

>>32651177
Sorry, forgot to explain the strat.
>go second
>immediately ninja boy Eevee in and energy evolve into Sylveon
>immediately either get either Garbodor in play or energy destruction tools (hence Wally)
>set up for Sableye to make it all renewable
>PoT, crushing hammers, etc

>>32650960
Then it dies to a sunsteel strike while failing to KO Solgaleo by a comfortable margin and their garbodor can't do shit except drop a 20 damage trashalanche after resistance.

>>32651544
Hey, here's a fucking idea.

JUST FUCKING PLAY SABLEYE GARB WHICH DOES THIS 100x MORE CONSISTENTLY.

Stop trying to change a deck that's basically perfect and has very little bad matchups.
There's a reason Alex Koch like sableye/garb and calls sylveon awful.

>>32651596
Ive been farming your shit deck all day with garb, by turn 3 when you can attack with him ive already dealt 300 - 360 damage. There are decks that have a positive match up against drampa/garb, but yours isn't one.

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Metronome Clefable reprint when?

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Trades from League today. I left happy.

>played Pokemon for the first time at a card game store with a friend
>had fun
Am I doing it right?

>>32652566
Yes. Now the card lust will set in and you'll want all kinds of cool stuff.

>>32651418
Post your deck, faggot.

>>32651418
Town map is so you can get important cards out of prize first, did that really not occur to you?

>>32652531
Nice! Boundaries Crossed Bianca is my fave

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Should I just go ahead and buy this?

I'm worried that TCPI isn't going to even print this card, which is so annoying.

I won't be able to use it in official tournaments, but I can at least use it at league

>>32637789
d...does her titty look like that oran?

>>32652353

They print a Clefable every third set or so. One day one has to be playable.

It's my favorite pokemon

>>32652644
It's Alex Koch's deck because it has tournament results with 1-2 card differences due to GUR. Go ahead and netdeck and critique it if you want, I don't care enough.

>>32652767
I know what town map does mongrel, but it's pointless without DCEs since it means you're attaching single energies a turn and your attack costs 3 energies meaning it takes 3 turns to charge it.

But go ahead and put in DCEs in the deck too lol.

>>32653106
I just want some good Pokemon that aren't legendaries, starters or nostalgia bait. Imagine if they could do what they did with Garbodor, but with Pokemon that people actually give a shit about.

>>32653125
What

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>>32651153
I like generations energy, wish it was a bit more uniform but they're still nice.

I don't like the way they do steel energy, wish it was something more smooth like this.

>>32653168
Google "Alex Koch sableye" and you'll find his decklist and who he is.

He top 8s regularly regionals with sableye and probably the best sableye player in the world.

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Golisopod-GX – Grass – HP210
Stage 1 – Evolves from Whimpod
[G] First Impression: 30+ damage. This attack does 90 more damage if this Pokemon became your Active Pokemon during this turn.
[G][C][C] Armor Press: 100 damage. During your opponent’s next turn, this Pokemon takes 20 less damage from your opponent’s attacks.
[G][C][C] Cut Cross GX: 150 damage. Switch this Pokemon with 1 of your Benched Pokemon. (You can’t use more than 1 GX attack per game.)
When 1 of your Pokemon-GX is Knocked Out, your opponent takes 2 Prize cards.
Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 3

This card will be fun.

>>32653254
First attack is... Fine. Probably good in combination with float stone or no retreat pokemon like koko promo. 120 is efficient.

Second attack is pretty fucking expensive for a 120 attack and 20 dmg reduction.

That GX attack is FUCKING awful though. 150 damage or 180 with a choice band and all it does is switch you from the active? That's fucking it?

Golisopod is another disappointing GX pokemon that I can't see having heavy play. I'd rather use the non-gx variant to be honest.

>>32653213

yep he's really good at saying "junk hunt" and fetching two crushing hammers from the discard pile

>>32653270
120 for 2 energy attachments isn't too bad, considering you will also probably run non-gx Golisopod, damage reduction is handy too.

The GX attack is nice to force them to lysandre it back out or be forced to maybe attack something like a Tauros.

Genesect EX could be a good tec in the deck. DCE being used for that second attack when you can't get a switch out as well as being useful for normal Golisopod or Trevenant.

>>32652809
They'll print it in English for sure, they're not gonna pass up a chance to drop a moneybox with a FA trainer and 2 evolutions packs.

lurantis bulu or ninetales gx? I would have to buy a lot of components for lurantis bulu, and I already have a ninetales and tapu koko promos, but pokemon is cheap so I could do either

>>32638531
There are some lists out there that are consistent without running every staple

Would you a Copycat?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Copycat_(Expedition_138)#Gallery

>>32637789
how much is sylveon worth?

>>32653294
Go to next expanded regionals with sable/garb and then tell me what your record is anon.

Using a busted deck and using a busted deck well are different things consistently.

>garbodor
>darkrai
>sableye
>vileplume
>trevenant
>charizard
>mewtwo
>gengar
>machamp
>ho-oh
>lugia
>eeveelutions

what other pokemon does TPC irrationally love?

will there be at least 1 of these cards printed in every set from now on?

>>32653254
This card is amazing
1 energy, combo with zoroark float/koko and a lot of switches and you're hitting 120 every turn
add a choice band for 150
add 1 promo lurantis for 170
2 for 190
a kukui for 210
post rotation without lysandre as well he'll be essentially untouchable on the bench
a stage 1 grass with a tool and a few stage 1 bench sitters is nothing much to ask for, and should be possible consistently every game
pairs fairly well with a few non gx golisopods
second attack is mediocre at best
GX attack is good, once a game 1 hit KO and then put a wobb/tauros/whatever in the active it'll win you some games help a lot in others and go completely unused in some
very good card

>>32655086
Gardevoir?

>>32655099
The only thing I dislike about it is the GX attack, but I honestly don't know what else they could have done.

Damn FA Hala is so cheap online for being a staple card in early use GX decks.

Show the Ultra Beasts already.

>>32655775

here you go

*unzips*

>Play Vileplume
>No one can use any item cards ability
>9/10 players concede immediately
HAHhaha this is so easy wtf

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Is this worth it? Never really use rayquaza

>>32656092
you are trading trash for trash so, idk

>>32656108
Left seems less trash, i did it

>>32638573
why are you running that gyarodos

>>32656120
Megafug is usable till shit rotates out

>>32653270
>That GX attack is FUCKING awful though. 150 damage or 180 with a choice band and all it does is switch you from the active? That's fucking it?


They probably had in mind Donphan or something, but the GX limitation kills any viable strategy behind the hit and switch. If you run normal Golispod you could still run a GX one or something I guess.

>opponent slow plays when I'm just doing an evo challenge

What a fucking faggot, holy shit

>>32655086
>charizard
>mewtwo
>eeveelutions
>irrationally love

those cards are fanservice. Shit like Garbodor is what is truly mystifying.

>>32637789
Holy shit this is a lewd card for an English release.
>Literally no clothing on the sides
>bra strap would have to be microscopic for her to be wearing one
>Oran and Pecha Berries are totally not innuendos
Like did the TCG just stop caring about censorship? if so post more

>>32656386
Add Darkrai too

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>>32656426
It's pretty obviously an edit.

>>32656108
People use one dragon fug in ray decks for some reason.

>winning wheel fails to give you something five fucking times in a row when you only have five of them unlocked

This is fucking stupid
That update cant come soon enough jesus

>trainer mail
>the ball they needed
>trainer mail
>the attachment they needed
>trainer mail
>the supporter they needed
>trainer mail
>the stadium they needed

woooo such a fun and skill intensive card I'm really glad this card is in the game

>>32653254
ehh, not great, but will get much better once Lysandre leaves standard.
>retreating to bench to heal off over and over
>hits Lycanroc for weakness
Could see a run as a centrepiece in some Tier 3 deck.

>>32656690
Same here anon, feels bad.

>>32656710
It's a card that increases consistency and reduces the probability of getting RNGfucked.
You can complain about the card being mandatory, but it does make the game more skill based.

>>32656840

drawing your entire deck in three turns and executing your one dimensional "hit every turn with the attack your synergy enhances" gameplan is not "skill based"

>>32656855
Do you prefer not being able to draw for shit and the guy who ends up drawing more of his gameplan cards first wins?
The "skill based" part of the game is preparing your deck and adding counter measures to other decks, if you are not able to draw these countermeasures the meta ends up being full of the one deck who can set up faster.
Draw power is a neccesary evil.

>>32656855
Play garbodor then

>>32656840

Consistency is the polar opposite of skill in card games m8

Skill in normal cardgames comes from building your deck with cards that actually do things and synergize with each other in a way that ends up making a good gameplan.

Deckbuilding in pokemon is putting 10 cards that do something, and 50 that just thin your deck untill you can draw those 10 cards, and then whoever goes first and can do that first wins.

There's really nothing to be celebrated about those cards, excessive consistency is a bad thing in a cardgame, it leads to uniformity in decks (something that pokemon greatly suffers from), strong first player advantage (again, something pokemon suffers greatly from), and every game playing out the exact same (ditto). All of those things reduce the skillcap of the game because they lead to factors irrelevant to skill being more often than not the deciding factors.

>>32656881

>the meta ends up being full of the one deck who can set up faster

that's always been the case and is still the case. Universal, non-conditional draw power is the very reason why that happened in the first place.

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Good shit for three packs. Post those pulls if you redeem the codes.

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>>32657586
Got the middle one, thanks anon!

>>32657620
No problem, glad you got something good!

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>>32655099
>garb isn't cute as a button

Gulag urself any time my famrade

>>32657701
Meant for >>32656386

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I really like Garb/Trev
>try to avoid playing items
>get fucked by Trevenant
>try to avoid having items in hand
>get fucked by Garbodor

>>32657888
It isn't really a problem if you have abilities. Oh wait...

>>32657713
You have some incredibly shit taste.

Pokemon Ranger removes the effects of Lapras' Blizzard burn, right?

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So when are they going to ban or create hate cards for this literal pile of shit?

>>32658032
correct

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Can anyone offer me some critique on my Golisopod deck?

>>32658126
>>32658126
Aim for consistency

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>>32658069
They already did

>want to get into the game
>don't want to buy Tapu Lele since expensive

What are the chances she will drop in price?

>>32658126
Your deck is incosistant and lacks a primary focus. Pick to build a deck around Lurantis OR Scept OR pod.

>>32658186
It's the same deal as Shaymin, either buy it or have a subpar deck.

>>32658126
>Sceptile ex
Dig into your carotid artery with a razor blade.

>>32658186
None, she'll be in the 30's until the price rises as GUR becomes less available.

Anyone else never content with their decks? As soon as I finish one deck, I start looking at what else I can build and it never ends.

Seems to me like everyone here hates the game and is only playing from sunk cost fallacy.

>>32658551
Just vocal minority.

I personally like the game but hate certain mechanics of it like the prizing system leaving some games lost before first draw but I've accepted it's part of the game.

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>>32658551
I hate any card that says "Your opponent can't" and Garb is part of that because he says "you can't" without even being on the field. Nothing says fun like a fighting a normal deck then they late game two piles of shit and 1 shot everything for the win.

Toad was the reason I stopped playing before but now Garb and Vileplume are pushing me to bail again.

At least with toxin garb you can work and play around it it even had a a requirement to be powerful. Plume just says turn 1 fuck you and trash Garb just says fuck you for just existing or having the the threat of existing in someones deck.

>>32658551
>everyone here

Where do you think we are?

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Hey /vp/ i bought 4 packs yesterday and pulled this. I'm scared

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This big guy is crazy good in Solgaleo.

>>32658126
I'd chop out Sceptile / Ariados line for more Fomantis / Lurantis. Run 4 choice band. 4 Professor Sycamore instead of 2/2 Professors.

Run 1 Revitalizer. Where's your forest of giant plants?

>>32658766
No fucking way.

I've burned through 200 GUR packs and still no DCE ;_;

>>32658831
>200 GUR packs

Do you just burn the commons?

>>32656426
isn't it past your bedtime

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Right after I get finished trading for 3 of your dumb ass. Go fuck yourself.

In Birmingham regionals m8s playing Sylveon stall. Wish me luck in my annoying adventures.

>>32658837
Nah, I trade them in for booster boxes

>>32658825
I like running Ariados because with Golisopod+Lurantis set up it pushes damage into the 210/turn range which is good for OHKOing some GX pokemon like fucking Ninetails. Someone here said for 2-stages it isn't necessary so I removed FOGT but I'll probably throw it back in.

>>32658195
I'd like to build it around Golisopod

How does Volcanion beat Greninja? Even with Altar of the Sunne, it's still an awful matchup.

Ladder is now full of Garbodor drampa netdeck.


Lol

>>32640050
Pulled one yesterday on PTCGO. Pretty nice since I started playing it this week.

>weakness

When will this horrendous meme end? Just make it +20 instead of >automatic OHKO

>>32659397
This. A deck should be at a disadvantage against its weakness, but it shouldn't automatically lose because of it. Mirror matches in this game are also a joke because of the way weakness works.

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Guzma – Trainer
Supporter

Switch your opponent’s Active Pokemon with 1 of their Benched Pokemon. Then, switch your Active Pokemon with 1 of your Benched Pokemon.

You can only play 1 Supporter card during your turn (before your attack).

>>32659573
so do all the fags waiting for Lysandre to rotate just quit forever now?

>>32659096
You target the froakies for ez prizes to slow them down. If they start only one froakie and you keep ko'ing it they basically lost.

You basically just rush them down.

>>32659579

hopefully

also Birmingham regionals are on right now

showmatch is currently sylveon vs lycanroc or some shit

>>32659579
It WOULD be more balanced if pokemon wasn't full of shit like float stone and free retreat pokemon.

But it is so the card is basically just another Lysander.

>>32659641
I can't fathom how people can get up this early to play tcg.

I don't know how I'll fucking be able to do it later this year if I decide to actually go for my worlds invite.
Assuming I find a deck I want to play that isn't garbador.dek

>>32659096
get a significant board advantage before they get duplicates off or you lose. So basically hope they get a shit start.

>>32659642
Still, it requires a LITTLE more thought than Lysandre.

Lysandre was just a brainless card, at least with this you need a multi card combo to pull off snipes with your active. It'll be good in decks where you set up on the bench and keep an active screener out like Wobbs. But won't be as good for them as not having Lysandre around would be.

Goncalo at it again on stream.

Zoroark/Deci/Umbreon.
I don't know how he manages to make these decks and still go 4/0

>>32659993
link?

>>32660261
Match is over, it was I believe round 4.

Currently the match is Darkrai/Dragonair v Ninetales.

Both 5-0 currently.
https://www.twitch /pokemontcg_eu

HAHAHAH

VOLCFAGS BTFO
ORICORIO TECH TOO STRONG

>>32660730
Explain

>>32661093
Interesting how garb variants are still a huge pool, but it's about expected.

I think day 2 won't be a lot of garb variants based on the stream highlights so far.
Decks really have changed, I wonder if this means we'll soon get into a cycle of:
Everyone runs item decks -> Garb takes over -> People play Slower Decks -> Item Decks come back -> Garb comes back

Or if it'll just end up being slow format decks to avoid getting the autoloss.

>>32660924
Volc deck lost a game from wayyyy ahead to a 6 counter Oricorio attack.