Suffering Chart

You're copying /a/ by representing the board in the top right corner. You sure you want to do that?

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d 25

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Do you guys have the imgur gallery of pic related like images?

I think it would be a good idea use those illustrations in the chart

Copying from last thread:

Move Flareon and Looker over 1 spot each to the left, and then Fighting down a spot: Fighting hasn't suffered as much as Bug, so having it there on the same row doesn't make sense.

On the same note, move Rock down a single row, and psychic down 3 rows, and Grass two rows.

Gengar should also be moved down by 3 rows at least. It got fucked by losing levitate, but it's still been OU for 6 generations and is still a very decent mon.

>>32624836
/v/ also did that

>>32624836
Yes. We deserve each bit of suffering we get.

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Suffering: 90
Deserving: 35

>>32624801
Who is the guy dressed as red in 100/100 spot?

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>>32624801
Move Celebi to the right, she was an annoying fucker in a terrible movie
Also rate movie characters
>Molly Hale
>Latias
>Sir Aaron
etc.
Pic related

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S: 50
D: 65

>>32624858
Viol, the male PC in Clover.

>>32624858
The male /vp/tan.

Come on. This bullshit of putting /vp/tan messed up with both Talonflame and Pokémon Go perfect positioning.

Pheromosa
S 25 D 85

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>Bonnie (PM GALS)
S:55
D:10

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S: 20
D: 65

>>32624898
This, Talonflame in the corner was perfect.

>Team Rocket Trio

Suffering: 70
Deserve: 25

If we go to each character (to fill more spaces, since I can't see it being complete)

James:
s 40
d 20

Meowth
s 70
d 35

Jessie
s 60
d 50

>>32624801
Don't use fakemons

>Poison Type
25 in each

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s: 95
d: 45

>Poison
S 45
d 15

Ground
s10
d45

>>32624836
I can see Viol being there but Vanille should be 50 suffering/10 deserved

Mega Sharpedo
S 95
D 85

It deserve to suffer because it sucks and it's ugly.
But his face is always "KILL ME" because he's suffering pain.

>>32624801
Zinnia deserves to suffer more

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S 20
D 20

We need more PokeSpe characters

Also S60 D40 is Festival of Champions Red (Not PokeSpe Red)

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S 10
D 20

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>>32624860
Suffering 60
Deserved 10

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s 35
d 95

>>32624801
who's the chick with the collar next to suicune guy?

>>32625005
Lyra (Bee-J1)

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Deserve 25 (was just a robot used by Giovanni)
Suffer 25 (killed itself upon sentience and starred in the musical)
Maybe musical James should be added instead at a different place?
His performer was miserable and embarrassed through out the whole thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnw0BXKk8Ow

>>32624898
agreed

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s 80
d 40

>>32624898
Move Lilly one square up and place /vp/ tan in 50/50

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Deserve 70
Suffer 90

>>32625026
Search in the chart before posting.

>>32625015
sounds like a whiny cunt. S75 D90

We can use good webcomics?

S 75
D 40

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>>32625031
Pic for reference

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S 25 D 45

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Arceus movie 12

Suffering 95
Deserve 45?

Almost dies in the past (in two separate timelines) because it was nice enough to help out Alamos Town. And in the 2nd timeline it ends up almost drowned in molten silver after being attacked

On the other hand, it was Arceus' fault that Dialga and Palkia ended up fighting and it did try to kill humanity. But that was only because it was almost killed in the past. So it would be retroactive deserving to suffer

>>32625028
Oh, didn't spot him

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>>32625039

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S: 65
D: 25

>>32624898
Agreed, drop those two and put GO and Talonflame back in their proper spots

>Genesect
S55
D100

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Anyone remember Hale?
D: 90
S: 80

Pheromosa in Suffering 25 Deserved 85

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Remember this?

S35 d95

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>>32625004
Does he count as an e celeb

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Suffering: 90
Deserving: 45

>>32624842
D 45

>Silver
S 35
D 70

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Tierno
S 15
D 80

This guy is so lame.

Is OP still here?

Where should Pokémon Shuffle go?

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Deserve 70
Suffer 0

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>>32625090
Yes

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if you put bulbagarden dude, you gotta put this one too
s 35 d 90

also move fake shaymin to s 45 d 95

>>32625097
It deserve some suffering, but I think it actually suffers more than it deserve.

>>32625108
Already in the chart.

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Suffering: 55
Deserving it: 35

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Suffering: 5
Deserve: 70

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Deserve 15
Suffer 25

>>32625110
Remove tentaquil, ballio and sonichu

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s: 10
d: 75

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Suffering is 10
Deserving is 75

>>32624801
I put Iris on s 10 d 85 last thread why is she at s 85 d 30? Did someone get it before me?

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Where she goes?

>>32625126
Great post.

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S 35
D 85

>>32625144
It actually suffered more because Gamefreak fucked with the power plant there.

>>32625152
Are we going full randomly now?

>>32625145
Also if moves are allowed move her to s 15 d 75

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>>32625153
I think he is talking about the Walrein from Battle Tree.
Evil bastards they are.

>>32625154
Wait shit someone got that too fuck

>>32625135
Mr Ploxy comics deserve a place in the chart more than Sonichu.

we need a ?/? character like /a/ had kyubey

>>32625133
She's already on the chart

>>32625133
post the full pic

>>32625153
>Gen 4 stallrein
>quick claw + sheer cold battle frontier faggotry
>randomly

>>32625171
Screw it, replace it with that pic then
>>32625174
Google Houndoom Jasmine

>>32625110
What did Looker do?

>>32624842
He was super cucked

It's getting hard to know what's not on here. Here's some suggestions. Use what's good and don't what isn't.

Slowpoke without its tail
>25 Suffering 15 Deserving
Bill turned into a Pokémon
>20 Suffering 50 Deserving
S.S. Anne captain throwing up into trash can
>medium low Suffering, very low deserving
Whismur
>medium Suffering, exact same Deserving.
Jirachi
>maybe 55 Suffering, 15 Deserving.
Similarly, Victini
>maybe 40 Suffering, 25 Deserving
Premier Ball
>maybe 40 Suffering, 20 Deserving.
Doduo
>20 Suffering, 20 Deserving
Dodrio
>30 Suffering, 30 Deserving

>>32625186
Fuck you Jasmine is fine

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Pokemon XD should go around here

>>32625195
>Jirachi
>15 Deserving
>Iron Head+Serene Grace
Jirachi is my favorite Pokemon but give it a little more than that

>>32625166
We've generally decided against a ?/? Space. /a/ only had it because they literally had like 7 threads about where he should be placed.

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s 55 d 95

>>32625197
How fucking dense can you be

>>32625196
It's a better picture conveying suffering which is what this chart is all about
Besides, the pic is already fairly known IIRC

>>32625214
Jasmine should be cute not suffering
Only 100/95 sufferers should really use suffering pics

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suffering at 70
Deserving at 20

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s 25
d 75

Fuck off him and his stupid nicknames.

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>>32625110
Put Snivy at the left of Tierno @ 75,15

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Golem

Suffering 60
Deserve 15

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>>32625230

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Deserve 85
Suffer 85
>>32625230
>He puts stars on his Pokeballs

>>32625142
>was looking for sauce
>it's just an ask response and not actually from a dicksucking doujin
gtfo

>>32625201
I was thinking mostly about movie Jirachi. I don't know a ton about battle stuff for it.

Plus, I mean, it should still be pretty low. It just gets shit on all the time. It literally grants people wishes for nothing and people just exploit it every opportunity they get.

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s 50
d 10

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>>32624801
suffering 0
deserved 65

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Is Amb*r already on here

Someone care to explain why darkrai is at 0 suffering?
Dark void got a massive nerf
100 deserving is alright btw

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Deserve 15
Suffer 25

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suffering at 100
Deserving at 85 for being a little bitch.

>>32625262
Darkrai is at 5
Do you even know how to read a cartesian chart?

>>32625264
>Houndoom Jasmine pic got in
Based
Thanks OP

>>32625262
Mystery Dungeon Darkrai

>>32625246
Most of the mons themselves are placed based on meta unless it's anime or movie versions

>>32625264
Revert Jasmine's picture please

>>32625264
Use an anime image for Malamar and move Iris to 30S

>>32625274
It's actually 0 < darkrai < 5
>Fucking smartass

Use a different pic for Whismur, the one we have is weirdly purple.

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S 95
D 40

This poor kid did nothing wrong

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Deserve 100 (a kid died because of one of these things)
Suffer 55

>>32625306
Scratch that, move it to 65

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s: 95
d: 40

>>32625076
You forgot to move Grass down 2, rock down 1, and psychic down 3

GSC Mom
>5 Suffering 20 Deserving
>use my hard-earned money on fucking dolls and useless status items without my permission why I oughta

>>32625309
Then swap it with Porygon-z

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Suffer 95 because the Trump jokes never stopped to the point where Gamefreak was actually interviewed about this except with Yungoos
Deserve 35

>>32625299
>"This poor kid did nothing wrong"
>D 40
What did he mean by this?

>>32625315
Come on, check what coordinates are already filled and choose one that isn't. If you want to change, justify.

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Suffering 70
Deserving 90

>>32625315
Fuck me, I meant deserve 40

Skarmory at S 20 D 75, and Ferrothorn right next to it.
Heatran at S 20 D 100.

Fuck bulky steels.

Wouldnt Masuda be
S 5
D 100

Verlisify

100/85

>>32625299
Put him at D 0 S 85.

If those are Brock's Geodude and Zubat swap them.
At least Zubat gets to evolve.

what a garbage chart
most of them are, but still
>37 posters
ah.

>>32625352
Embrace the memes, man.

>>32625352
At least we aren't /jp/

>>32625288
If Lyra can have her pic, Jasmine should have the one she has now as well

>>32625367
I don't know what pic you are talking about but there was no reason to change Jasmine's

>>32625321
Lel

Pokémon Red/Blue
>Suffering 50 Deserving probably 25
>It's a little rough around the edges but generally still pretty fun despite /vp/ circlejerking
Pokémon Yellow
>Suffering 35 Deserving probably 25
>More overall polished, so viewed more highly, but the meta is still generally as broken as the original
Pokémon Green
>Suffering 55, Deserving 55
>Not released outside of Japan, just a more broken Pokémon RBY, with worse sprites.
Anyone have ideas for the other games? This could fill some spots.

The truth is that we don't have enough material to fill 400 squares. A 200 square chart, maybe

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>>32625352
Feel free to contribute anon. Dazzle us.

>>32625372
The one at S25 D35
The context is that Whitney's prepping her up for S&M where she's the S and Lyra's the M

>>32625383
Not him but source to the pic

Full pic i mean

>>32625379
I think we may just be crazy enough to succeed. Even a freaking move is represented on there.

>>32625373
>Pokémon Red/Blue
Less suffering. It still gets a lot of praise that it doesn't deserve.

>inb4 we still need to put all games

>>32625389
>a freaking move
To be fair Stealth Rock has been the most meta defining move for the last decade and is a meme of its own

>>32625379
This is probably true. /vp/ is generally more niche than like /co/, /a/, or /v/. It's still pretty fun though, and I feel like we could have enough stuff to fill this size board if we have enough time to think of it.

We've started doing routes and towns, now. Pretty soon we're gonna start doing pokeballs and items to fill up the remaining spots.

>>32625388
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/530715

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Put Anime Fug in D40 S5

>>32625039
>>32625050
This

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Suffering 65
Deserving 45

>>32625390
That's valid.

OP, move Red and Blue, but put Tentacool or Tentacruel in the space I suggested for it. Does that work?

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Deserve 75
Suffer 20

>>32625367
That pic is for Lyra (Bee-J1) not for Lyra (HGSS)

>>32625418
Is that the guy who sells James the Magikarp?

If not, we should have that guy somewhere.

>>32625425
He is

>>32625264
Pokemon Trainer (Brawl)
25 Suffering
15 Deserved

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(80,35)

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Suffering 60
Deserving 35

>>32625422
If that's the case then both Jasmine pics can be on the chart

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Deserve 80
Suffer 35

>>32625448
Jasmine Houndoom pic isn't from a comic

What's the name of the guy who picture himself as Butters and has a crush with Serena?

He needs maximum suffering.

>>32625457
Yes but it can interpreted as Jasmine (HG/SS) and Jasmine (infamous Houndoom pic)

>>32625463
He was on there before but was taken off to remove e-celebs

Sonichu is just an exception because he's so goddamn big

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>>32625340
Fuck it, we're adding e celebs

>>32625476
No

Also remove that Rowlett ripoff

>>32625476
No e-celebs, Pokemon has so much shit in it we can still fill the board

/a/ took like 7-8 threads relax

>>32625379
We still don't use the PokeSpe characters

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Suffer 80 (it's barely collected and near lost last I checked)
Deserve 30

Put Sonichu back and swap it with Heliolisk, but put Heliolisk at s 25, d 65

He's too iconic to not include.

>>32625422
Please explain

>>32625488
>>32625488
>Pokemon has so much shit in it we can still fill the board
There's so much that we don't have anything more to fill it.

>/a/ took like 7-8 threads relax
More people means more discussion about it.

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>no kris on here yet
Absolutely disgusting.

S 80
D30

>>32625488
>Pokemon has so much shit in it we can still fill the board
We used a fucking stage play to fill a square. Come on, we are running out of options.

>>32625515
Manga characters, webcomic characters, NPCs, that creepy Pokemon PC game, Pokemon Learning League, My Pokemon Ranch, etc

>>32625507
Is a different version of the same character
>>32625504
>Put Sonichu back
No

>>32625515
>that we don't have anything to fill it
Pokemon has
803 creatures
56 Gym Leaders
28 Elite 4 Members
8 Champions
8 Evil Teams
A shitload of spin-offs that expand on Pokemon and introduce their own characters
an anime
TCG
and a bunch of other shit

and you're telling me we don't have enough to fill a 400 square chart?

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Suffer 0
Deserve 60

>>32625504
I am on team Put Sonichu Back

>>32625535
I had a good laugh.

Someone suggest coordinates for the other games like with RBGY. Which games suck and which don't is a topic brought up on /vp/ literally like eight times each day, and it would fill a ton of squares that haven't been filled yet.

Pokémon BW2
>Deserve 15
>Suffering 25

Pokémon Emerald
>Suffering 80
>Deserve 30

We should have done mainline games earlier. Now he don't have any more space.

What about Black Kyurem?

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s 85 d 45

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(25, 10)

Made this for the 40 of you
http://www.strawpoll.me/13064701

>>32625527
>>32625532
Filling with random shit? At least e-celebs has some meaning than putting a shit just for the sake of putting it.

>>32625560
e-Celebs have less meaning than things actually in Pokemon, which the chart is for

no other board has e-celebs on their charts either, why the fuck should they be on ours

Mega Garchomp: 75, 75

S 70 D 95

Exeggutor
S 75 D 25

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s: 25
d: 65

>Pokémon Toasted Oat Cereal with Marshmallow Bits
S5 D40

>>32625549
Kyurem in game is a terrible beast, in metagame is near the 0

>>32625568
/co/ had Pan Pizza and MrEnter

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>>32625572
For s 70 d 96

>>32625579
Yeah but that movepool

>>32625568
Because Pokémon is a fucking culture that include e-celebs and they're part of the fandom.
At this point, there's no sense in letting them out. The chart is already a mess. We should start over, then.

>>32625593
>We should start over then
Good idea, that way we'll never finish!
fuck off

>>32625593
>Start over
/v/ went over column by column to sort things out after initial completion

>>32625560
Manga, webcomic, and NPCs count
The Snowpoint City bitch has more meaning than Versilify

>>32625579
With in game I mean pokedex, just like Spiritomb

>>32625597
We are doing this just to finish or to make a good job? If it's the first, add e-celebs.

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s 10
d 25

>>32625606
A good job of course

>>32625606
We are too specific a topic.
We should reduce the amount of squares from 400 to 100 to make a good job to start with.

Anything in the fandom counts which means e-celebs count, so everyone shut the fuck up and just put them in

>>32625550
May don't suffered more than Dawn

Switch grass type with Leaf please

>>32625526
There's nothing wrong with the Stage Play Anon
Nothing wrong

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s 15
d 30

>>32625560
>>32625593
>>32625606
>>32625613
Fuck off Sonichu

>>32625626
Strawpoll has E Celebs on the favorable side

>>32625608
I want to make Mallow suffer.

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s 25
d 20

What should have been the priorities:

>Games
>Pokémon Types
>Regions
>Main Characters
>Main NPCs from the main games
>Characters from the anime
>Gimmicks, like Battle Frontier, PWT and Game Corner

I'm okay with e-celebs at this far, but if we won't use them, remove Pokémon Sage, Pokémon clover, Tentaquil and some stuff like that.

>>32625626
I voted no but add Sonichu

>Kanto
Suffer: 40
Deserves: 80

>Hoenn
Suffering: 20
Deserves 100

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s 5
d 25

wew
i think that's all the sun & moon for right now

>>32625476
Move A-Persian to around 30D
Move grass type to same coloumn as bug type, no reason for it to deserve more suffering.
Also move Darkrai to at least some suffering. For goodness sake dark void got nerfed. And replace that spot with the fairy type.

Move N to d30

>>32625560
What specific tiles do you take issue with?
The ones that you feel don't belong?

Team Rocket Grunt (Gen 1)
>30 Suffering 25 Deserving
>burgles fossils, Pokémon, TMs, and ultimately cutting-edge technology. Gets fucking rocked by a 10-year-old in battle (probably multiple times). Fades into obscurity.
Team Rocket Grunt (Gen 2)
>35 Suffering, 50 Deserving
>Terrorizes local animals, disrupts wildlife, takes over a radio station, and requires the intervention of the area Champion to stop. Fades into obscurity with no law enforcement intervention.
Team Magma/Aqua Grunt
>60 Suffering, 65 Deserving
>try to throw world ecosystem out of control due to fanatic love of Pokémon. Realize their intentions are misguided and disband when plan falls through. Highly loyal, they have nothing when the team is disbanded.
Team Galactic Grunt
>70 Suffering, 70 Deserving
>Told leader has the key to ruling the universe. Destroy a lake, run a cultish crime syndicate in Veilstone, and don't know the power they're messing with. Apprehended by law enforcement/Agent Looker when disbanded.

>>32625657
That Darkrai is the PMD Darkrai. Game Darkrai should be at around s45 d90.

Let's make some reviews. Does Black from Manga, Ratata, Hydreigon, triple battles and Nanu really suffered 100?

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d 40

>>32625686
Ratata yes
Hydreigon should be lowered
Nanu should be lowered
Triple Battles maybe

>>32625686
Being a shitmon is like 80 suffering

Should Iwata really be 85 suffering?
I remember two years ago that someone on /v/ described what kind of illness he got and it wasn't pleasant in the slightest.
It was the kind of agony that would last for weeks

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d 50

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>>32625651
Couldn't fit Hoenn

>>32625678
Team Plasma Grunt
>50 Suffering, maybe 40 Deserving
>Preach a good ideal in not taking Pokémon for granted, but organized and radicalized by a megalomaniac who does not really believe in what he's selling and only tolerates them for his own personal gain. Steal Pokémon in the name of liberating them. Well-meaning, but still criminal.
>I don't remember them in BW2, someone help me out if they're any different.
Team Flare Grunt
>uh
>I actually don't remember their motivation.
>They're pretty kinda forgettable to be honest.

Do people hate Pokken or something here? Why is it 100 suffering?
I never seen it got flack.

>>32625708
I was the one who suggested Iwata at 85/25. I would put his suffering higher, but some entires were already filled and he didn't deserved more than 30.

>>32625717
If I remember right it was because it was criminally underrated, undersold, and underadvertised despite being a pretty solid game.

That's why it's pretty low "deserved".

>>32625717
Pokkén suffers a lot because the lack of content and cover since it doesn't even got DLCs and people don't care about it in mainstream, but it doesn't deserve to suffer because it's a fucking great game and one of the most underrated in the franchise.

Switch cosplay kid with either Pokken or Ratatta.

Alder
s35
d15

>>32625745
With XY Ash.

Also, put BW Ash S50 d55

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d 20

>>32625713
Add Korrina in S35 D15
Put B2W2 in S55 D20
Remove S5 D60 and S90 D45

Manga Zinnia S100, D70

You know how /co/, /v/, and /a/'s charts were given specific labelings at some parts because of how similar characters who were closely put together were?
I don't see it with this

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d 95

>>32625763
BW2 didn't suffered enough to be 55. That thing received a lot of praise and still does.

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d 5

Professor Tetra
0 Suffering
35 Deserved

>>32625768
Exactly, our chart is a fucking mess. Pokémon has sufficient canon to make charts for each canon, but it would have a lot of irrelevant content there because there's not so much important stuff to completely fill it. Since we are merging everything, it is as it is now.

>>32625768
Only /co/'s had labels at the end of it, though.

>>32625719
/v/ had him extend beyond the left corner

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D 35

>>32625791
I saw /v/ add some like "Did nothing wrong" and "CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT"

>>32625713
Is grass really worse then bug? I think the two should be swapped.

Also, move Psychic over 3 or 4 spots to the right. It was OP as fuck gen 1, so it does deserve the suffering it gets to a degree.

So what's the point of having one of these charts for every board?

>>32625763
That shitty 3D model needs to die

Stuff we still need to add:
>Regions
>Protagonists
>Rivals
>Professors
>Gym Leaders/Elite 4/Champions
>Teams Flare and Skull
>Main Games
>Side Games
>"Champ in Making!" Guy
>"Technology is Incredible!" Guy
>Anime protagonists/teammates
>Anime antagonists/rivals

What else?

>>32625815
It's meant to be fun, anon.

You remember fun, right?

>>32625817
Sonichu
We have other webcomic characters I don't understand why he isn't allowed

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(65,65)

>>32625717
It's not people hate pokken, really, it's just that it's unloved and unsupported

>no marketing
>Nobody talks about it or watches streams
>didn't even get the extra characters the arcade version got
>the smash, FGC, and general pokemon community all don't really care about it
>Didn't get at evo a second time even though the community nearly matched Marvel in terms of donations
>everybody thinks it's dead even though it still has a decently active online and competitive scene

>>32625731
it actually sold pretty well, 1.3 million copies as of last december, which only makes it's lack of attenion and dev support worse

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>>32625713
Come on, OP, use this images >>32625404

Is official art

>>32625822
This.

>>32625829
>>32625404
Stop, please.
If YOU want to use it by yourself, sure, but stop forcing this here now.

>>32625829
Get the fuck out of here already

...Wait, actually, no. OP, put something representing all of this art style in high Suffering high Deserving. That I'd be alright with.

Pokémon Generations in S60, D25

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>>32625763
Couldn't fit Korrina

>>32625855
Why is gengar in twice

Protagonists:

>Red
S 45 D 30
>Gold
S 35 D 40
>Lucas
S 35 D 20
>Hilbert
S 50 D 35
>Hilda
S 50 D 40
>Calem
S 10 D 50
>Sun
S 25 D 55
>Chicken chan
S 25 D 50

>>32625866
One is PMD Gengar, the other is non-PMD Gengar.

>>32625855
Put pedo-hypno that kidnapped the girl in the forest of Sevii Island in s40-d85

>>32625868
If we fill up the board then we can shift things to where they should go. Just suggest stuff and say if it has a high or low suffering/deserving. If it's on the board we can change it but if it's not and the board is full it's gonna suck trying to compromise.

Bonnie
45S 30S
Clemont (Anime)
45S 20S

>>32625885
Flareon's already there


Magcargo
Somewhere high suffering low deserved

Pokémon Pinball in S55 D15
TCG game in S50 D15

kanto
S5, D60

so many other things in the chart are suffering because of kanto.

>>32625894
Kanto is already there.
S40, D80

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s 10
d 65

Is Tobias already in?

If not, he should be bottom suffering and 80-100 deserving

>>32625855
Add PokeSpe Red in S:70 D:50
Use the game image for Lugia

What is S90 D100?

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These three somewhere in the middle.

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>>32625881
Couldn't fit Bonnie
>>32625924
It's probably regarding Sylveon

Poke Spe protagonist:

>Red
High suffering Mid deserving
>Blue
Mid suffering High deserving
>Green
Mid suffering Mid deserving
>Yellow
High suffering High deserving
>Ruby
High suffering High deserving
>Y
High suffering Mid deserving

Why is chesnaught in 85 deserve 100 suffering?

Also, why is Zinnia listed twice?

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>>32625939
If 100D 75S is supposed the spammer, then perhaps you should add like, a male symbol undernath pic related to make it more obvious

>>32624801
if 5,100 is pokken then 100,5 should be smogon

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>>32625872
The (30,65) is Gengar in general.
The (95,60) is the Meanie Team's Gengar in PMD. I suggest you replace it by pic related instead, to get the idea.

Bonnie s20 d35

>>32625939
30,60 for chandelure, cucking it when it was supposed to have shadow tag and instead giving it to mega gengar

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>>32625924
fairy deniers insisted that sylveon was going to be flying type

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s: 5
d: 45

>>32625579
That cereal tasted like sand

We're only missing two types so
>Flying
S 60 D 30
>Electric
S 35 D 65

>>32626015
I think electric suffers more because t wave nerf

Nate: s- 40 d- 45
Rosa: s- 45 d- 50
Lucas: s- 30 d- 45

>>32625990
Gen 6.5 fags suffer 85 and deserve 100

>>32626038
I think you mean they suffer 65

>>32625968
seconding this

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d: 90

>>32626043
S65 D65

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>>32625939
Suffering 90
Deserved 85

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>>32626038
Give a good picture

>>32626100
The bag is Suffering 90 too, but it has lower Deserving.

>>32626108
We're still missing basically all of the main series games. Anyone want to hazard an opinion? I just want them all on the board.

>>32626108
Use Blue SM design

Nintendo Lawyers at 40 suffering, 85 deserved. For an image, use a headline of something where "Nintendo Cease and Desists..." something with that part cropped

>>32626114
We need to fix some character's position

>>32626108
i feel that johto should be somewhere on that chart.

>>32626108
Smogon needs to be higher on both deserving and suffering.

>oras
S 85 D 100
>dppt
S 70 D 40
>hgss
mid high
>frlg
mid middle
>bw
left low
>xy
mid low

>>32626108
You need to play for hours and hours in the gambler to get a Porygon

The gambler deserve much more

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>>32626140
I don't necessarily agree with all your points but I'm tentatively glad the games are on the board at least.

I don't really have room to talk I guess, though. I'm equally biased.

Pokémon Gold/Silver
>med-low Suffering, similar Deserving
Pokémon Crystal
>low Suffering, lower Deserving than GS

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d 95
:^)

Pokemon Shuffle d50 s85

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>>32626169
I have a better image

>>32626207
What did poor Yellow (Pokespe) do to get that high deserving?

>>32625950
(70, 100) is PokeSpe Zinnia
(85, 95) is game Zinnia

>>32626207
Why is electric 60 deserved?

>>32626241
also, why is fire 50 deserved?

>>32626207
Spiritomb (Game) S45 D85
Shaymin (Movie) S55 D70
Use the game image for Whitney and Suicune
Use the SM image for Red

>Ash AG
45D 75S
>Ash SM
40D 20S

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>Gen 6.5 fags
S 65
D 65

>>32626207
Please remove D90 S90

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>>32626318
Replace it with this if you remove it

>>32626207
Are Ruby and Sapphire on here? I see emerald.

If not just put them next to Emerald at either 45 or 55 Deserving.

>>32626207
Use Flareon, Geodude, Zubat and Tentacool game image
Use HGSS opening Ho-Oh image
Use Emerald opening Fug image

>>32626318
Absolutely do NOT remove d90 s90. That anon shitting up the thread earlier is on the board now and he needs to STAY on the board and be shamed for his shitty suggestions. At least until we have something better and no more empty spaces.

>>32626207
Put Gambler in 90S 75D
Put Voltorb Flip in 90S 30D

I just want to take a second and say this is a good-ass thread and I'm having a lot of fun doing this.

Good job, OP. I'm actually excited to see the end result after we've finished this thing.

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Last one for today

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Location: 40,15
Space Above: SM Ash
Below: Miror B
Left: Crystal Ver.
Right: Cheren
It got a fuck ugly design and shitty special stats despite having a deep special movepool

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This smug bastard makes me so mad, I swear to god.

Suffering: 65, since it's doomed to be an irrelevant tiny shitmon, and evolving into Xatu is suffering.
Deserving: 95

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>>32626446
I say you remove Primarina and Incineroar and just have all 3 at Suffer 70, deserve 40. Some okay designs made to make children happy have to live with a bunch of autistic manchildren fighting over them all the goddamned time.