Dear /vp/, do you inject your mons in the game or do you breed

I've got a friend who does that shit for me, before he hacked his DS he bred shit for me as well. Cool guy.

I inject events and perfect Japanese dittos for breeding. Nothing beyond that.

>>32583013
I inject all my shit

>>32583013
I breed/catch all my Pokémon legit and then use PkHex to max their IVs because I'm tired of the games' RNG bullshit.

My bf make them for me with injecting.

>Thread about injecting
What happend to /ekx/? I wasn't on /vp/ for a while.

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>>32583013
I bred all my mons legally all of Gen 6, but since Sun and Moon, I just inject the perfect eggs so that I can at least level them up and raise them myself. Hell, I even edited some of my bros from the past to make them viable today and I still see them as my bros. For legendaries, I just edit them on Hex to be perfect. My advice: It's just a game, the Pokemon can be special but don't be afraid to be a little bold with them. I figure it doesn't matter since some day we'll be back to a new gen where we can't Hex right off the bat.

>>32583013
Always legit stuff. I altered my Rayquaza from Emerald and then I felt guilty and couldn't see it as being really my mon. Thankfully, ORAS came out and I got a new chance to catch Rayquaza again so I got relieved.

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>>32583404
Here's a better version.

I inject all my in-game pokemon with better stats so they stay my bros.

I don't know how to inject so I breed

>>32583013
I breed, although I generally get my breeding fodder from injectors.

>>32583013
Neither because i have no autism.

I inject everything, theres no reason to not doing it

>>32583603
>i have no autism
I think you need to leave.

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>>32583013
Inject, though I have pretty much everything I need by now including Japanese events and obscure shit like Petal Dance Meowth. I like collecting stuff.

Lately, I mostly just dick around in the Battle Tree with illegal stuff like Dragon Dance Garchomp. Though I could just inject the wins, I like playing god better.

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>>32583013

At this point, it's not even about morality, it's about personal satisfaction.

Sure you can just inject whatever you want, but breeding is suppose to add a layer of satisfaction, a feeling of payoff. Instant gratification may feel good at first, but it eventually cheapens the experience, and makes it boring/unsatisfying. This goes for everything in life, and pokemon is no different.

If you want to just inject things, that's fine, but I personally love the feeling of getting a 6 IV perfect 'mon with the egg moves I want. God tier satisfaction if it ends up shiny as well.

Injecting can't give me that.

Plus you get the added benefit of knowing you won't ever have to worry about GF somehow developing new ways to detect cheating and getting banned. Odds are that won't happen because GF is pretty incompetent in that department, but less worry is a good thing none the less.

Now just don't be a smug asshole about being legit to everyone, and you're golden.

>>32583606
As long as you don't go online, that might hold truth.

I inject to get the hidden power I want or to correct ev distribution. But I'm not such a dick to involve others who might disagree with these methods.

>>32583711
If the injected mon is legal what is wrong with using it online?

>>32583688
Might as well go to the casino or play a mobage if getting a good roll after 1000 failed tries is what gives your life the edge.

>>32583711
I've been playing online with injected Pokemon since I started with PKHeX in 2015. If the opponent gets their shit kicked in, then it's not my fault.

>>32583723
Because it's an illegitimate shortcut.

Any society, in order to exist, has something at its core that provides a foundation. That's called principle. Principles are basic ideas/values that not only allow social life, but are absolutely necessary for that society to exist. Since this principles find their existance in relationships, they are beyond moral: they don't dictate the values of a single guy, but those the whole community requires in order to exist.

In order to battle, you have 2 options: battle a CPU or battle a human. Since human societies live by principles, you should respect those principles if you want to stay. You can show respect by doing what the other anon said: be honest by saying "I'm using hacked mon, you have a problem with that?", allowing them to say if they want to play with you or not.

You're keeping to yourself the fact that you didn't spent any effort and eliminated the RNG that is engraved at the very core of pokemon and simply "PKhex'd" your pokes. You could simply be honest, do your thing, and let others do their thing by letting them decide whether battle a hexer or not.

>>32583013
I do both I Inject for shit I am too lazy to breed, and I breed shit that's too easy too Inject.

>>32583805
>You can show respect by doing what the other anon said: be honest by saying "I'm using hacked mon, you have a problem with that?", allowing them to say if they want to play with you or not.
How am I going to talk to my opponent if there is no way to communicate on battlespot?
And the opponent wouldn't even know I have injected pokemon if they have legal stats/moves, so I don't see the point in telling them.

>>32583834
>I don't see the point in telling them

Might as well test that reading comprehension, because I'm not repeating myself beyond this: Life is not only about you. Other people enjoy the game w/o hacking, thus having mons with lower IVs or the wrong EV spread. It is about both of the players having a chance to have an optimal set, not being an entitled manchild who capitalizes on the obliviousness of its contenders.

>>32583872
>thus having mons with lower IVs or the wrong EV spread.
Can't they just breed/bottlecap/train a better one? Why would you be using sub optimal mons in a competitive environment?

>>32583805
This is conveniently ignoring the fact that in real life pretty much every successful person has had to lie, cheat, or steal in some fashion at some magnitude to get ahead of others and reach the position they are at. People cry about muh honor in Pokemon but it's no different than the shortcuts people take in real life to get ahead of the competition. Is it always right? No. But it happens, and we all just have to deal with it.

>>32583607
Off yourself sperg

>>32583404
>>32583456
>I don't know what 6IV Shiny Dittos are

There's so many of them being given away practically everywhere, you'd have to be a idiot not to take advantage of it, thus reducing your efforts of breeding to a half. Even a normalfag can take advantage of them if they're not stupid as walls. They even come with fucking Destiny Knots if you're lucky enough.

Also, don't be a jerk, appreciate your Dittos and thank the people who gave them to you whether they're hacked or authentic, otherwise, you'd still be kicking your legs in bed trying to find a way to get that perfect 6IV Honedge or something.

>>32583883
>If the opponent gets their shit kicked in, then it's not my fault.
>And the opponent wouldn't even know
>Can't they just

About the breed/bottlecap thing, we should ask that same thing to ourselves, don't you think? It's not like everyone is expected to be honest while playing, right? You can take your nihilism and cynicism to bed and makeout with them (wouldn't be as different as doing it with a waifu, they're both concepts), but leave people who aren't looking to take illegitimate advantage of others alone.

This is not a problem of legitimacy, but about understanding how society works. I'm gonna sound condescending here, but boy, go outside and try to be social, like REALLY social. Try to be empathetic and then we might be able to get goin' some real talk here.

>>32583977
Why use Dittos when you can just inject?

>>32584017
>Why breed all the way from beginning when you can just use Dittos to reduce efforts, but still play the game?
>Why breed at all when you can just inject, but still play the game by taking advantage of online competitive by using mons I got from non-natural means?
>Why play the game when you can just inject lol

Go play Pokémon Showdown or something, hun, I'm sure going through the intro of the game is already enough effort for you. It's essentially what you're reducing the games to every time you do inject, Pokémon Showdown-bloatware version.

>>32584102
>the core of pokemon is entirely centered around breeding, and as such competitive events like VGC are actually large breeding centers
>just go to your local showdown tournament

>>32583013
I've used hacked parents to breed legit babies and use those. I only directly injected in Gen 7. In Gen 5 I could use Pokecheck to download parents and in Gen 6 breeding was simplified to the point where I could just trade and breed easily. Instacheck was also very helpful for the few weeks it was available

In Gen 7 I just said fuck it but now that Bank is open I can just transfer my Gen 6 breeds and be done with it. Breeding isn't worth it since EV training and level grinding is so shit now.

The only use I really had for Homebrew was unlocking all the dyed versions of all the items and getting the version exclusive clothing. What the fuck were they thinking with this shit?

>>32583960
>pretty much every successful person has had to [...] cheat [...] to get ahead of others and reach the position they are at.
>pretty much every successful person

I guess you're not so succesful, otherwise you wouldn't be thinking those actions -from a quantitative perspective- and arguments actually hold that much of weight in reality. Hard work pays off bro, you should try out some day.

>>32584168
>Hard work pays off bro, you should try out some day.
It's sad that you truly believe this. See you again when you grow up past 12.

>>32584238
Not everyone is a hypocrite here, anon. I talk from experience and I hope one day you'll achieve the happiness life has brought to me and my family. Not that this happiness means we have no problems, but understanding how you can better yourself from your personal struggles can work wonders.

Now if you expect an "I give 100 and life returns me 200" kind of life, I guess you're the one who needs to grow up a bit.

What is it with discussions about "injecting/hacking" morality turning into the most autistic, tryhardy bullshit I've ever read?

>>32583013
I injected perfect iv males to cover every egg group but I haven't bothered to use them

>>32584359
Faggotry. It's always faggotry.

>>32584359
>Can't contribute anything relevant
>Better call BS

Stay classy, /vp/

>>32583013
I breed them with almost everything ok like egg moves, balltism, natures, ability, etc.

I use PKHeX or PKSM to adjust IV, level and PP Max.

>>32583136
it was a begging general
then hacking your 3ds became easier and easier
so requests died off
and it turns out nobody wants to discuss injecting pokemon all day

I breed pokemons with 6 IV Ditto

I inject to make people like a couple autists that posted here mad. Also to give them a reason to blame their losses on something instead of them being shit.

>>32584102
>J-Just play Showdown...

Every time.

>>32583013
I kinda stopped playing competitive in 2013, I never really bred mons, I use to do a lot of trading/cloning in gen 4/5 and used them for WiFi battles, but I ended up playing PO mostly

Gen 6/7 I just play the story mode of games and transfer up my growing collection of mons while backing up my saves / injecting events / items etc

I almost always actually get shit legit, even if it means breeding or shiny farming, but I'm honestly considering injecting the japan only event pokemon, it pisses me off I don't have them. Hell, I want to inject all of the shiny-locked mons in Su/Mo, because them being shiny locked at all gets on my nerves.

>>32587585
That's honestly an understandable reason. Japan gets cool shit all the time, and contrary to what Joe Merrick likes to spew, they never get released on the west.

>>32587630
Yeah exactly. I'm damn sick of it. I don't battle competitively (Sometimes me and a friend will build teams on the fly with wild mons, but that's about it) and I wouldn't trade them, so I can rationalise it for myself in my head. I just need to figure out how the hell to get PKHeX working, or wait for an inject thread to pop up.

Does PKSM or PCHex++ or something else work with GBA games played on the 3DS' virtual console?

>>32587647
no you gotta dump/inject the save manually with hourglass9/decrypt9 or godmode9

https://3ds.guide/godmode9-usage
>Backup GBA VC Saves
>Restore GBA VC Saves

>>32585715
But he's legitimately right.

>>32587678
I know how to do it, I'm just tired of having to dump to SD/edit on PC/inject back into 3DS all the time and hoped there was something faster I could do.

>>32583013
I breed but only a retard would care how someone plays a children's game