/heg/ - Hacking and Essentials General

yo its childish maximo

So who's gonna make Pokemon Emerald: iFunny Watermark edition

>more resources for essentials than romhacking
What did he mean by this?

>>32576693
Gbababies are inferior to Memessentials

>>32576709
how are those laggy map events and connections treating ya

>>32576726
how are those frlg graphics and lack of unique features treating ya

>>32576726
How's your decade-old laptop holding up?

>>32576756
how's that lack of mobile play treating ya

>>32576766
how's that shitty memory management treating ya

>>32576797
how's that memory leak treating ya

>Mr Squidward, welcome to the night shift!

This threads off to a good start I see.

>>32576873
Business as usual

I'm trying to remember the name of a Pokémon fangame, was hoping someone could help me out.

I don't think it was a romhack or made in Essentials, but it used GSC graphics for everything. You start out with an Eevee and use multiple Pokémon to battle at once (sort of like a Final Fantasy-type deal), and I believe the story was some meta plot about stopping MissingNo. from destroying the region.

>>32577483
Super Pokemon Eevee Edition. It was made in RPG Maker 2003.

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Gen 2 hacks > Gen 1 hacks > Gen 3 hacks >>> Essentials
Gen 4+ hacks don't get a rating because they basically don't exist

What's everyone working on today?

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>>32577717
https://soundcloud.com/dimbus-maximus/gym-ghostflying-mt-taranaka

>>32577717
>>32577745
Basically more music for Clover and MM

>>32577717
working on adding mega evolution to my hack

>>32577717
Currently porting my trainer battle theme into the game. Later I'm going to be working on the roofs for Glint City.

I want to do a Gen 2 hack. I really want to use Prism's source as a base because of all the expansions but I don't know if the developers would be ok with that.

I know this is pretty much opinion based but what's the best romhack to play?

>>32577830
I really don't think he can care after the c&d

>>32577830
If I recall they had talked about making it open source for other hackers before the C&D, if that makes you feel any better.

>>32577860
Prism and Gaia are my favorites. Give them a shot if you haven't already.

>>32576756
>implying those graphics are bad
>implying people using shitsetials don't use graphics inspired on those games

>>32576766
This is the biggest fault of essentials, honestly.

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Trainer Battle Theme is in game. Here it is:
http://picosong.com/MDKz/

Also this is the current Coral map.

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>want to make a 3D fangame because I'm a super autist
>scared people will say that my art skills are crap
what do I do, I'm getting now where at this rate
>inb4 get gud

>>32578402
>inb4
Well, that's the most efficient solution or you could pay someone else for their services. Besides, as long the playability is good people don't give a shit about graphics

>>32578193
>>implying those graphics are bad

They are.

But go ahead and keep struggling on adding basic features to your generic looking FRLG knock off.

>>32578497
>struggling on adding basic features
>Not knowing C or assembly
>STILL using FR over the superior Emerald
It's not 2009 anymore anon, ROM hacking has progressed quite a lot.

>>32578497
>But go ahead and keep struggling on adding basic features
Just because you failed to do so a few years back and then said "this is too hard," doesn't mean everyone else does.
git gud

>>32578402
Rip the models from sm, duh

>>32578402
If shitty Chinese app developers can lift models from the 3D games then so can you.

>>32578550
>>32578547
Nice try. I never romhacked. Seeing people on here constantly asking for help adding basic shit or breaking something because of a minor thing they changed is all I need to see

>romhacking has progressed a lot
Yet nearly all of them are either generic frlg shit or minor balance changes for official games. Yeah that sure is progress.

>b-buh muh 3rd gen graphics look better than muh 3rd gen graphics ;_;

>>32579495
People are retarded with essentials, too. They fuck even the simplest things up (like adding a script, just check the script threads for examples.)
How many essentials games can you name? Probably as many in depth romhacks I could name. Being a fanboy for one side or the other in this argument is pants-on-head retarded.
Both ways have their merits and drawbacks.

>>32576766
>Playing on phone instead of superior laptop or computer

How do fangame teams like Sage's come to be?

>>32580345
With a few anons doing all the work until there is something valuable (concept art etc) and they can actually draw other people

>>32579615
>How many essentials games can you name

More than any romhacks. And they'll be more varied in graphics and features than all the shitty gsc/frlg romhacks.

>>32579615
There are competent people in both sides making great games, there is no reason to argue because both produce good shit so don't argue over nothing like a bunch of niggers

>>32580345
Usually a group gets drawn together in the first place by something (in Sage's case, the vp makes a game threads) and if the group begins to put out a quality product, it'll entice other artists/programmers/etc to contribute

If anyone wants to start something to that effect then I'd be down to contribute, as 'superteams', despite their problems, tend to lead to better, more polished games.

Max, if you're reading this it might be a cool idea to have a 'Collaborations' channel in the discord which people can use to team up or offer their services for a fangame. Maybe it'd just devolve into 'plz sprite for me' but the discord is generally pretty tame chat-wise so I think it could be productive.

>>32580555
Mind listing some of the good ones? (Not the popular ones; judging by ROM hacks, popular often equals crap.)

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Lightning Island for Polished Crystal. Inspired by Chargestone Cave.

>>32579495
>>32580555
You're implying more than 80% of Essentials games DON'T use Gen 3 graphics.

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>>32580788
And the outside island.

>>32580791
The crap ones do. But there are plenty that don't. Meanwhile with romhacks you're pretty much forced to use gen 3 shit.

>>32580791
Some Essentials games use original graphic assets, much better than rom hacks

>>32580824
>>32580858
This argument is ridiculous. No one technology is superior for making games, and either one has some good games and lots of half-assed or unfinished junk. Just say which games you think are the best with each method.

>>32580811
>>32580788
woah!

>>32580874
>No one technology is superior for making games

No. Essentials is better because it has infinitely more freedom than romhacks do.

>>32580887
A technology where a commonly sought after feature is a "no-lag script".
Yeah, when you get lag for adding events and map connections, that sure is reassuring the thought of freedom.

>>32580887
I'm a diehard essentialsfag but who the fuck cares what the superior medium is. You don't have to like rom hacks or hacking but there's no point in sperging out over people partaking in it

>>32580887
Essentials is PC only, can't play on phones.

>>32580913
What are some of your favorite Essentials games? I know there's Zeta/Omicron, Sage is in development, Uranium is overrated.

>>32580912
You know what's an even more reassuring thought of freedom? Being able to do anything without requiring someone else to make tools for it.

>>32580913
> but who the fuck cares what the superior medium is
I do. And the romfags who sperg out just because there's essentials content in the OP

>>32580915
There are far better games I'd want to play on my phone that shite 3rd gen romhacks.

>>32580918
Ethereal Gates is pretty good even if it's a demo. Sage is looking pretty neat. There were a lot of great essentials games from back in the day as well but sadly they were never completed (shit like Acanthite, which I thought was so fucking cool as a 13/14 year old learning about Pokemon game development for the first time). I guess I'm a fan of essentials just because I like the potential for greater customization in terms of graphics, I'd say that ROM Hacking definitely has a better output at the moment in terms of the number of quality hacks vs. quality essentials games

God, why are essentialsfags so cancerous, just stop already. Each engine have its flaws.

>>32580927
>Being able to do anything without requiring someone else to make tools for it.
It's a darn shame the source code for gen 1, 2, and 3 aren't available, then we wouldn't need tools.
Oh wait

>>32576681
>ifunny
>trip

fuck off

>>32580927
>You know what's an even more reassuring thought of freedom? Being able to do anything without requiring someone else to make tools for it.

Totally right. The pokered and pokecrystal disassemblies allow this sort of freedom for Gen 1 and 2, and pokeruby is making progress. Even Gen 3 has advanced in the past few years; people use the IDA Disassembler and write new features in assembly and C instead of being stuck with what the tools allow.

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https://soundcloud.com/dimbus-maximus/argenchi-city-night

>>32580949
>>32580998
>no gen 4+
>source code available

Exactly my point. You can't do anything without others providing it to you first. Pathetic.

>>32581029
And Essentials was provided to you by a person named Poccil, was it not?
Try harder next time.

>>32581029
You need to calm down.

Im ashamed I started the platform war as a bait >>32576709

Don't ban me

>>32581058
Too late, Anonymous is now banned from /heg/.

>>32581058
Next time repeat the ancient mantra "Just like make game" instead.

Who cares faggots just like make game.

first for thanku simba ure the best poop pee

>>32580753
Noted and added

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>>32581409
>pokeball door doesnt open

Is there any example in Essentials of a forced NPC call? I want to implement something similar to the Day-care man calling you after a certain amount of steps.

>>32581662
Like anon was saying, Essentials gives you freedom to do anything, including forced calls. You just have to write the script for it.

It's been proven time and time again that rom hacking is superior to Essentials.
Essentials is built on top of a what, 14 year old engine by now? That's older than Emerald, jeez.
It's time to move on to a better engine already.

>>32581800
people would if it existed, but no one has the 'tism to make it.

did anybody ever find a way to emulate heart gold without the constant freezing or crashing?

>>32581769
I can code in Ruby better than the 5% of devs probably, I'm just asking to base my code off something

>>32581887
no problem in desmume

>>32581887
The best NDS emulator is actually Drastic, sadly mobile only.

>>32578208
More great work, keep it up.

essentials was a mistake

>>32582674
Life was a mistake

>>32582770
true but it would be less of one if RMXP had never been created

>>32582872
Hey man, good h-games have come from rmxp

>>32582901
The porn would have shown up regardless.

>>32581040
>And Essentials was provided to you by a person named Poccil, was it not?

Yes, except Essentials allows me to expand on it however I wish. If I want to add some crazy new ability, I can do it. If I want to add 1500 pokemon, I can do it. If I want to make a gen 5 style game, I can do it. If I want touch screen or mouse functionality, I can do it. Even if Maruno or whoever the fuck is behind on adding new gen features they're easy to add yourself if you have even the slightest programming skill.

Meanwhile with romhacks
>omg when will more work be done on gen 4 tools ;_; uhh guys which pokemon should I replace to add my fakemon because there's not enough memory ;_;

>>32582904
It's fun to play for the different endings/routes, though.

>>32582921
Actually, you haven't had to replace pokemon in the dex for literal years now. You should probably learn about what you're bitching about before making an ass out of yourself.

>>32582933
>Actually, you haven't had to replace pokemon in the dex for literal years now

And yet I see people in these threads constantly doing so. I wonder why that is?

>You should probably learn about what you're bitching about before making an ass out of yourself.
Follow your own advice.

>>32582921
>Yes, except Essentials allows me to expand on it however I wish.
Same with the games with disassemblies?

>>32582921
>If I want to add 1500 pokemon, I can do it
Except you can't lol because it's essentials

>>32582921
>If I want to add some crazy new ability, I can do it. If I want to add 1500 pokemon, I can do it. If I want to make a gen 5 style game, I can do it.
So can rom hackers if they have the coding skill, but do go on about how essentials is the greatest thing ever though, it's quite amusing.

>>32583037
>games with disassemblies

you don't need this qualifier with essentials.

>>32583083
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=347883

>>32583106
But Essentials needed to be made by someone in the first place. Essentials is to vanilla RPG Maker what disassemblies are to ROMhacks, except regular ROMhacks are still better than regular RPG Maker games.

>>32576681
I found a program for transferring gen 2 pokemon to gen 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ILhyYIjArYLimeWEUJvSa0BsCnB5k706MWN2Pa7fA9c/mobilebasic

>>32583111
>But Essentials needed to be made by someone in the first place
Read.
>>32582921


>Essentials is to vanilla RPG Maker what disassemblies are to ROMhacks
No, because you STILL have no options past gen 3 shit.
>>32583101
>but do go on about how essentials is the greatest thing ever though

No, but it is better than romhacks.

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>>32583306
You're going around in a circle. You're saying Essentials can do anything, but so can disassemblies, but you're claiming disassemblies don't count because they were made by someone else, but so was Essentials, but you're saying it doesn't matter because Essentials can do anything, but so can disassemblies, etc.

>>32583321
>You're going around in a circle

No. You are because you can't read. I keep saying that disassembles have no options past gen 3 shit. Yet romfags keep conveniently ignoring that.

>>32582674
Don't forget its fanbase, as seen in this thread.

just wanted to share this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFV1dWTqbhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZNkaJVIkcY

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>>32583501
>those graphics

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>>32583405
What exactly can't be done in Gen 3? And what's to stop people from eventually trying to disassemble Gen 4 (besides perhaps the disassemblers losing interest by that point due to its filesize)? It's not like Essentials can even do 3D without lagging like shit.

>>32583501
This game looks very unpleasant.

>>32583513
>What exactly can't be done in Gen 3?
Making a game that looks good.

>eventually
That's exactly the problem.

>It's not like Essentials can even do 3D without lagging like shit.
Essentials isn't for 3D. If you want a 3D Pokemon game there's another kit for that. But 2D is good enough.

>>32583518
What exactly stops people from making a game that looks good in Gen 3?
>eventually
All things take time, including things made for Essentials.

>>32583527
>What exactly stops people from making a game that looks good in Gen 3?
It's limited and the aesthetic is ugly.

>All things take time, including things made for Essentials.
With essentials I can make things NOW. With romhacks it's
>abloo bloo bloo when are tools going to come out for gen 4 :(

>>32583544
What exactly stops people from changing the aesthetic?

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>>32583518
>>32583544
>making a game that looks good
>It's limited and the aesthetic is ugly
This is a Gen III romhack called Flora Sky.

>>32583553
>ugly gen 3 style sprites and textboxes
>default emerald player sprite

yuck.

>>32583550
The limitation of romhacks. In what takes a week for a romhackfag to do an essentials dev can do in a day.

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@32583544
This is a hack of Firered.

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>>32583563
Well first you were saying people CAN'T do it, but now you're just saying it takes longer? So people CAN change the aesthetics in Gen 3 ROMhacks?

>>32583563
But if you were making it you could just change the character sprites. I don't get how you don't understand that.

Also, how are the Gen III text boxes ugly? You could even change them if you thought they look bad.

I'm not even a GenIIIfag. I mean, I know you're baiting at this point, but come on m8.

>>32583572
>Well first you were saying people CAN'T do it, but
now you're just saying it takes longer?

It taking longer is part of the reason why people can't do it.

>>32583565
Good job, you posted ONE (1) romhack that actually looks good.

Too bad they still can't change the screen size, or add touch functionality, or do anything creative because it's a fucking romhack. Meanwhile I've seen a handful of essentials games that look just as good or better than this.

>>32583577
>But if you were making it you could just change the character sprite
Yet 99% of romhacks use the same shit. I wonder why that is. It's almost as if doing anything in a romhack is too time consuming.

>>32583596
>Too bad they still can't change the screen size
you can't even play essentials games in full screen ahahahahaha

>>32583596
>It taking longer is part of the reason why people can't do it.
But they clearly can, if you yourself says it just takes longer.
You're really moving the goalposts right now.

>>32583596
Did a Pokemon ROM fuck your mom or something? I've seriously never seen anyone autistic enough to get in such a rage over something so pointless. You could have spent this time making your game, but you chose to argue with a bunch of Anonymous people on 4chan as to why your way of making games is better than their way. If you can't see that you can make a good game in any engine, then I have no idea what to tell you.

>>32583614
He's just a falseflagger, not actually making a game. Otherwise he'd actually be working on said game instead of starting an argument like you said.

EvERYONE IN THIS THREAD FUCKING CHILL AND POST STUFF FROM YOUR GAME

>>32583596
Can you show us your awesome looking Essentials game?

>>32583609
you can't even play any good romhacks that aren't frlg shit ahahahahaha

>>32583613
>But they clearly can
With a lot of time and with STILL more limitation than essentials.

An essentials dev by himself could have made a better looking game with more content in the same amount of time it took the romhackfag to do and it wouldn't be limited by being a frlg romhack.

>You're really moving the goalposts right now.
No. Romhacks are still overly limited and nothing in this thread has proven me wrong.

>>32583614
>rage

No, romhackfags are the ones raging. Was it an essentialsfag who started this argument? Nope, it was a romhackfag who was butthurt that there was more essentials content in the OP.

>>32583633
I am making a game actually. Thankfully it's not a romhack.

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So why isn't crowdmap updating to show the roof graphics for one of my towns? I changed the value in tilesets/roofs.asm, and it works fine in game, but I can't get crowdmap to show the changes. Not a huge deal, but I use crowdmap to capture the pictures of the maps for the world map, and I'd like them to be accurate.

>>32583666
nice trips. Honestly I've messed around with essentials and some rom hacking. I myself personally choose rom hacks just because it seems like a good start. I really don't have anything against essentials games tho because i've seen essentials games having some interesting stuff in them.

stop replying to warposters

>>32583725
At least the thread is staying bumped.

>>32583686
By the way, that is looking fantastic.

Yessss...Yeesss!!
Let the anger and hatred fester and boil inside of you!
Come, my child, to the land of the suffering!

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I'm making it so that TM balls are yellow like later generations, but the pokeball sprite looked gross with the yellow color palette. I made a custom sprite that flips the colors so that the tan is on top and it looks better, but I still think it looks a bit awkward. Thoughts?

>>32583952
Perhaps maybe using green or blue would work? I'm not really sure of the limitations of gsc hacking since I'm an essentialsfag. If those look bad too then I'd just keep the default Poke Ball sprite since having a separate one for TMs isnt a huge deal

>>32583952
That's pretty disgusting yeah. I remember a long long long time ago, Crystalfag posted a slightly custom ball sprite (with a button) that would at least help it have a more defined shape cause those two colors ure using dont blend

>>32583795
stop tripfagging max

>>32584183
xDD uwu thyou Simba!

Doing minor balance changes, kind of a Drayano style thing. Firstly Im working on abilities, giving more flavour wherever possible (like Drapion getting Merciless over Sniper etc) and erasing the shit second ability in some Pokémon, for example Ledian goes from Swarm/EarlyBird/IronFist to IronFist/CompoundEyes), so you can't have Early Bird, but you've got Iron Fist guaranteed and an alternative HA if you want to take another approach in how to use the shitter. No type changes, maybe I'll do really tiny BST changes if my shitmons are still really shit despite better abilities.

It's nothing too overboard really, you're not going to be ultra-surprised or shaken up at the changes, but it'll be enough to bring my huge stack of shitmon selection to a playable status, hopefully.

Next is moves, then tutor/Egg moves, then wild held items Im tired of Pecha Berries.

Any ideas for obtaining Hidden Abilities? I was thinking Capsules, but that's boring

>>32583952
Polished Crystal uses blue for TM balls. And yeah, that yellow one still looks weird.

>essentialfags complain about freedom when things like pokecrystal are being made
ok

Can I trade Red++ mons to Polished Crystal?

Hi! Does anyone know how to randomize a ORAS hack? I've been wanting to go back to Rising Ruby Sinking Sapphire with the Meme Sapphire version, but wanted to mess things up a little for myself and include all the balance changes in the modified games, if that makes sense to you.
If anyone knows where I can find a reliable source on that, it'd be great! Everything seems fairly outdated now that ARM9 + Luma is the way to go for hacking your 3ds.
Thanks in advance for the attention.

>>32585812
No, but I think that's a planned feature in the future since Mateo and Rangi seem like friends and have already been making changes in their hacks to reference the other.

>>32586015
Yeah, once both hacks have stable 3.0 releases, we'll probably look into making them trade-compatible. Red++ 3.0 is going to use the expand-dex hack to allow more than 255 Pokémon, and hopefully by the time it's out I'll have done something similar with Polished Crystal.

>>32584232
For Hidden Abilities, how about a special kind of tall grass/water/cave floor?

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I know I am going to start a spat but: given the list of things I want to do with my game, is it better to go the romhack or essentials route?

1. New attacks that are copies of current ones, such as Return in different typings. NO new abilities.

2. Altering Pokemon's sprites, types, abilities, stats, and attack pools.

3. Making it so that happiness affects accuracy and critical hits or something similar.

4. New items that are copies of others, such as new eviolite for sp att. and att.

5. New map with a tileset I have made.

6: 16 gyms, with two of them being double battles.

There are 350 pokemon in the game.

I've dabbled in both, and would love the mobile capability of romhacking, but I don't want to get so invested in it before know if it's even feasible with what I want to do.

>>32586130

Most of that can be done with ROM hacking tools to edit data tables and maps (AdvanceMap, PGE, G3T, etc). They're the sort of changes that even beginner ROM hackers can make. If you start with Emerald, DizzyEgg's scripts can expand the number of available Pokémon, moves, items, etc, and add a lot of newer features like the physical/special split and Fairy type if you want them.

The only part that would require asm/C programming is happiness affecting accuracy and critical hits. That would probably be easier to do in Essentials with Ruby scripting. On the other hand, your final game would only be playable on PC, instead of multi-platform emulators or flash carts. And if you ask for help with it, I doubt it would be a complicated routine to write once you're familiar with the programming language.

>>32580788
>Polished Crystal
Why can't any fucking autists name hacks that don't sound like cancer. more like Polished Turd amirite?

suggested titles:
Goldencratz and Silverstein
Crystal Meff
Gold n Silver 2: electric boogaloo
Monster Hunter
Michael Vick's Badge Bully Road Trip

There is not a single romhack without a faggy name.

stems from them taking their bullshit too seriously cause these fuckin autists have no sense of yumor.

>>32584232
For HA have some kind of safari thing, if you can, have it act like the friend safari with more slots, but I think it would be easier to make the safari have different shitmons each hour

>>32586800
Just call it Pokemon Crater

>>32586800
Those all sound like unplayable shit

Anyone know where I can find a working download of Pokemon Essentials EX?

>>32585925
I wish I knew how to help you.

>>32586800
>yumor
que pasa, padre

>>32586800
what's up, you armenian fuck

>>32586130
Romhack

>>32586800
please kill yourself immediately

all me btw

>>32583596
>people can't make it look good!
>i meant people can make it look good with a lot of time!
>no romhacks look good!
>you only posted one romhack that looks good so my statement is still true for these unrelated reasons!
>moving the goalposts this hard

If you can't make a romhack, just admit it. Why come to a general based around them to complain? You're fucking autistic.

>>32583563
You are clearly biased and have no say in the matter.

>>32588258
>>people can't make it look good!
Clearly because so far there's also been 1 romhack posted that looks good.

If you think I'm moving goalposts you clearly can't read.

>Why come to a general based around them to complain?
Blame romhackfags for sperging out at essentials content.

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does anyone know what i did wrong?
im using advanced sprite editor
is there an easier software I can use????

>>32588784
>Blame romhackfags for sperging out at essentials content.
The only person sperging out here is (You)

>>32589774
fuck off falseflagger

>>32589817
what?

>>32589784
>The only person sperging out here is (You)

Nope. Romhackfags are just mad that their game has no limited potential.

>>32589817
>>32589849
nevermind figured it out you fucking assholes i understand you guys hate reddit tier hugboxes but seriously yall are beyond jerks

>>32589849
He's a butthurt romhackfag who thinks that just because someone showed proof that romhacks are pointlessly limited and hard to use that they must be a falseflagger.

(doors)

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https://soundcloud.com/dimbus-maximus/aurugama-city-night

Here is the night theme for Argenchi's sister city, Aurugama.
Aurugama City is known for their streets of gold and festive Daylight Ceremonies.
It's also home of the Dragon/Fairy Gym, which is the last trial a trainer faces before they are approved to challenge the Pokémon League.

It is inspired by a Chinese settlement that fought wars with Johto in the olden days.


*After one particularly disastrous war, people of both regions fled for new land and colonized the four islands, each unaware of the other group's existence.
They continued the old regions' traditions of festival, making paper lanturns to appease the guardians of the Sun and Moon. Their lanturns would take to the sky every Saturday night, over the Sea and the Mountain ranges.
The both cities would stare at the night sky in awe of the others colony's lanturns, unaware that they were separated by an ocean.
When the finally set out to find the source of the lanturns, they came to find not the faces of an old enemy, but those of a new family, and they were at peace.*

>>32591132
That sounds lovely.

lucky number 7

what's the size of the useable emerald world map? thanks

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>>32592456
Expand the ROM to 32MB and add all the maps you want.

For composing a soundtrack, is it best to use the real Pokemon soundfonts (like from gen 4 or 5) or is it better to use a different instrument pack entirely? Does it even matter at all?

>>32592999
no it doesnt matter, just be consistent. to that end, using pre-existing soundfonts is the path of least resistance as you wont have to rearrange every single track and sound effect to match, as you can just use the ones already there

I miss the /heg/ days when people would post pretty maps and those would become the OP's picture in the next thread. Can we have that back?

Post maps!

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>>32593317

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Is it possible to edit the Sevii Islands world map's in Fire Red? I was planning to use those as a way of extending the region I wanted to make.

>>32593508
Clover did it so I assume so.

>>32593626
It's safe to assume OP just wants to know HOW, not really "whether it's possible or not" because they probably know the answer to that

>>32593508
This may help: http://sfc.pokefans.net/lesson.php?id=18&lang=en

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>>32593691
Sorry, wouldn't know. To be fair, you should've specified that to begin with.
Looking at other hacks that did it is enough to answer the question of "is it possible". Alternatively, you could ask the people who already did it if you don't get an answer here.

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>>32593508
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=312794
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=144088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6fK2B1IEn4
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=8048560&postcount=434

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>>32593317
Did someone say maps

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>>32593317

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>>32593813
(concept map)

>>32593317
That's not how I remember that at all. I remember one guy always shouting "POST MAPS!" whenever people posted anything else and if you spoke against it they would dump 20+ maps into the thread and kill any momentum.

>>32593969
Still better than romhacks vs essentials garbage.

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We surf now

Also, does anyone have a link to animated tiles from Hoenn? Need the rocks in the water

>>32594028
This auto-surf thing looks great. Why is that Brendan sprite so small and smooth-lined though? Is it a placeholder?

>>32594028
>>32594052
Looks like a custom engine. And a fancy one at that.

>>32594058
>fancy
>character stutters as he walks

Kek

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>>32594052
>>32594058
>>32594071

We're using BYOND (http://www.byond.com/) to make our game, which is a dated (and quite terrible) engine for tile-based multiplayer games.

The human sprites we use right now are custom ones from older sources, they're exactly 32x32 which is why he looks off.

Not really sure how we can fix the stutter yet, unfortunately.

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>>32594028
>>32594087
Another short webm

>>32594173
Drop the bootleg sprites though

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>>32594273
Don't work very well when scaled to fit our 32x32 grid, unfortunately

>>32594300
Is the software open source or can you code in it? Custom OW is so shitty when the map is Gen 3

>>32594310
The software just provides you with the tools to create your game, everything that's in the actual game is either OC (as in the code and map) or ripped from RSE/FRLG/PMD + fanmade sprites

If we used the original tile sizes from RSE instead of scaling from 16x16 to 32x32, the PMD sprites would be too big

Would people be opposed to a game where you just have one large 'hub city/town' and explore around that? I want to make a game based off of exploring a ruined atlantis-like island so I can't exactly justify having a lot of towns and cities.

>>32594568
If it's set up where it has many different sections to make the illusion that it is more than just a town and such then maybe.

>>32594646
Yeah, I was planning for it to be a multi-map city with shit that changes and unlocks the more you progress.

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r8, h8, be my str8 fuckm8, you know the drill
I'm not confident in it because I know zero about geography. Is it cool at least?

Most cities/towns (red) and points of interest (blue) are not connected by routes. This is intended and I don't seek feedback in that in particular, more about the region's shape, colours, if it's geography makes sense, etc.

>Topleft: Desert
>Top: Marsh
>Topright: Chilly, rainy countryside
>Bottom: Mediterranean landscape, plus a volcanic island cause

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>>32593317
Map of the first city from the game I'm working on. It was a bitch to make and I'm still unsure about some things so any crit is appreciated.

>>32595615
I recommend that the blue would be the towns and red would be cities. Areas of interest should be more distinct than just color. As far as geography it's not the good on the surface but it is an interesting idea and could go somewhere if polished. It's damn cool art style you came up with.

>>32596432
It ain't my style but there's nothing wrong with it and honestly imagine that being in a Gen 4 game. Maybe fill in the left side full of trees cause that one house on the top left looks really lonely. Maybe like one or two more of the same style house.

>>32596542
Thanks man. I originally had it filled in with trees. but I felt that it made the city look a bit bland and I felt that having the little inlet with the house in it kind of eased the transition from sea->grassland. There's another house of its kind on the beach. I think both of them are going to be points of interest (hence the signs), the one on the beach will probably be like that place in slateport, not sure about the one in the top left, maybe just the house of an important character.

Where might I find precompiled code.bins for sun and moon? There's nothing on 3dsiso and google doesn't help.

>>32594568
That sounds great. A detailed single city and its suburbs would be a neat change from a "large" region with small towns.

https://youtu.be/MnKGyaNCoBI
I finally scripted proximity-based music
The BGS channel doesn't like its volume to be played with, so I made some pretty handy work arounds to get the effect to work.
There's still synching issues due to the BGM channel and BGS channel loading and playing at different times, but I'm slowly rescripting the cueing process for both channels to play consistently.

>>32598182
that's pretty fucking cool

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>>32596516
It does pop a little more now, I'm worried the route paths don't have great contrast, but I like it more now, thank you.

>>32598456
Why is there an uterus and a penis in your region

>>32599132
It's spelled "peninsula".

\pn, please proceed to bump\nthe nearest thread, please.

>>32596432
do you have autotiles for the fountains?

>>32596432
Those tiles are so washed out it's making my David Bowie costume look like black face

>>32601937
Nah theyre just static for now as I wanted to get the basic layout down, havent created any autotiles yet

>>32602001
It's just kyledove style. I like the desaturated look (and it was wildly popular back in the day). Maybe I could mess with the palettes a bit but I'm not sure about going to change an entire graphical style

I know little to nothing about rom hacking and scripting, but do you think I would be able to create my own game over time?
Thinks I would like to do are:
1.New Region/Map change
2. Add new Pokes/Moves
3. Have special/physical split
4. Maybe add Fairy type.
Would it be easier to do all this in gen2 or gen3?

>>32602595
If you look into it enough. Maybe Gen 3 only because it is the most researched in the hacking community. You really need to go off in your own when it comes to Gen 2.

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>>32597749
I feel like I've seen that with bad Essentials fangames before, like Pokémon Aegis version (a.k.a. Black Lives Matter version, all the good guys are dark-skinned and all the villains are white).

>>32602595
This will do the last three things and then some for you immediately: https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=374338

>>32603495
has anyone done this for fr yet?

>>32604189
some parts exist for FireRed but the entire thing no

>>32596823
pls respond

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New WIP Coral map. Route 3 to the right of Glint City. Still not sure about the right side of the map. The next town is to the southeast, but I'm not sold on how that area looks right now.

>>32604819
Since the mountain is three levels high, how about extending the lowest level down and making it a platform aross part of the route? Just for extra variation, like on Route 2.

[B]ump

give me npc ideas

>>32608093
What kind of NPC?

>>32608093
How about a character that you cannot play as?

>>32608761
just ones in towns. im at like the eighth city so im running out of ideas

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First version, what do you think? Gold square is the first town, and the volcano is the league (+ story events). The town to the far right is postgame, and I'll add another island with more stuff as well for the postgame, though for now that far from the priority.

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>>32610310
Also forgot to mention that's it's based on La Reunion island, which is French, so Runia will have some Kalos lore and whatnot.

>>32609290
Well, what's the geography of the city? Does the city have any important quirks? What puts that city on the map?

>>32610310
It looks good; the main thing that bothers me is that volcano. It looks too aliased, if that makes any sense.

>>32610617
Thanks. Oh yeah, I'm not happy with it either, so it's kind of a placeholder for now.

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>>32604819
Final(?) version of Route 3. I decided to make the exit of the cave into the next town on a different map so that I could reload the map and use a different tileset as I've almost used up all of the tiles in the current one.

The river is going to wind down through the middle of the next town and into the forest beyond it. I want it to follow the path the player takes for a while before emptying into the sea.

>>32605125
I thought about doing this, but I don't really know how to make it work. Also, the stairs would need to be on the left and right instead of up and down, and I'm not sure how that would look.

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>>32611328

the waterfall looks like it leads up to some cerulean cave like dungeon full of strong pokes and a legendary.

the idea of a town split down the middle of the river is great, leaves a lot of possibilities for hidden item spots and fishing.

there could even be a little sidequest to unlock entering the gym where you need to solve a feud between villagers on the left side of the river and the villagers on the right.

also the river flowing along the path of your journey is kino and genius level design.

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>>32593317
Maps!

>>3261145this triggers my astigmatism thahs

Does Tanoh sound like a good region name?

What's the best engine to use for a 4th gen style game?

>>32611559
what happens when the player jumps down that ledge with no surf mon

>>32611660
Has 5 letters, an "o" in it, and is easy to read aloud. Sounds good to me.

>>32611692
Essentials is pretty much your only viable option. Making a GBA rom hack in gen 4 style would take immense amounts of work and would probably end up full of bugs and clashy parts here and there.

>>32611692
Gamefreak's.
Always.

>>32610605
nah I've already written enough lore NPCs, I just mean interesting things that they can do that is agnostic of the actual town itself.

similar to move tutors or deleters or something, but not those

>>32611559
Fix your tree shading and use flowers
>>32611940 is a very valid point also.

let me post re.....

>>32612254
Gen 5 has some unique ones. The Item Maniacs, the guy selling Fresh Water on the different bridges, the musicians that add to the BGM, callbacks to other games like the ex-Rocket Grunt from Gen 2...

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>>32611328
How's this?

I also moved the Berry tree down to match the GSC convention of keeping them isolated so they stand out.

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Years ago I was working on a Game using essentials. Gave up on it but worked in some maps in all sorts of styles. Check up on this map using GSC style

>>32612659
What the fuck I love those trees... Are those public somewhere?

>>32612934
I swear those are in g/s/c somewhere

>>32613493
They look a bit like a combination of the Ilex Forest and National Park trees

>>32612659
Route 1 really seems like just part of the town more than anything which seems neater. I would've thought Route 1 started after the little building whatever it's called on the right.

>>32612934
I modified some trees from the public tilesets years ago, if anyone wants to rip them feel free as they are custom.

>>32613954
Yeah, tried to blend everything as tight as possible for it to be pleasant to eyes when in gameplay adding details here and there.

>>32612659
You made this map with 1x1 tiles in mind and not 2x2. You'd either need a really complicated tileset where a lot of tiles are just other tiles with offsets, or you'd have to realign a lot of them.
Also there's only one tile layer in Gen 2, you can't have shit like the trees or house roofs poking up into the tile above them. You'd need to add extra tiles with the tops of those house/tree tiles on top of whatever other tile you have, and you'd have to change the palette to fit limitations, plus you'd either have to prevent the player from going to that tile or they'd appear above the tree/roof.

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>>32612659
>>32614077
Both of those tree types look good. There are some tile errors with the cliff edges. The shadows of the Poké Ball sprites just look like too-thick borders. You mix Johto and Kanto style buildings.

pic unrelated

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I made it so that the path and bridge don't curve back down. That way you can see the waterfall in the background as you're walking across the bridge. Before it would be off screen and only show up if you walked to the edge of the river.

>>32612536
I see what you mean, but now that trainer on the bottom route is completely pointless and the decision to fight the Lass and grab the Pokeball or just ignore it is gone. I do like the berry tree in that spot, though.

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Recommend me some gen 2 hacks to play lads

>>32612254
Even without lore, we can use that information to flesh out areas. Is it near an ocean? Have someone who likes shells and beachcombing. Is it far away from the ocean? Have someone who wants to see it. Taking stuff like that into account can help flesh out the world.

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>>32614429
Prism, Polished Crystal, and Christmas. Or check out Orange, it has a new alpha out.

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>>32614620
I'm waiting for the update before I try Polished Crystal, but that looks pretty good. I'm assuming it's set in the Orange Islands?

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of romhacks out there.

How can you make your romhack stand out? Noticeable? How do you make it popular?

What's the trick to be visible?

>>32615040
Make a good game. There may be a lot of hacks but there's probably less than 10 of actual good quality.

>>32615040
Finish it. Even if it's shit, a finished hack is always in demand.

>>32615040

This is like writing a book so you can be a famous author. Don't. Start with an idea that you want to turn into a game, even if nobody enjoys playing it except yourself. Then put in the time and work to make that idea real, even the boring details. At that point you're already ahead of 99% of the half-assed unfinished hacks out there.

Then post it on different sites, engage with the community, take feedback and fix bugs and release updates. Screenshots or videos are more attractive than walls of text.

And of course, the most important thing is to have something playable, even just a beta. A thread full of shiny screenshots and no ROM isn't a hack, it's just graphic art.

>>32615040
Just be good. 99% of ROMhacks are pure shit.
Being complete is also a plus, like 90% of ROMhacks are incomplete.
Also, you DON'T want to get too popular. If you get too popular Nintendo will notice, which is the worst thing that can happen and will probably lead to you getting a C&D like Prism and AM2R.

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>>32615140
>Also, you DON'T want to get too popular. If you get too popular Nintendo will notice, which is the worst thing that can happen and will probably lead to you getting a C&D like Prism and AM2R.

How is that a bad thing? That is LITERALLY the biggest marketing and publicity your romhack could have. It will put it on the public eye like nothing else. Furthermore, you, the person, the developer, will get momentary fame as well that you can use to kickstart something else later, maybe your own game and start up a Patreon or something too. And if you still want to complete the romhack later then just release an update anonymously and that's that.

Getting C&D is hitting the jackpot like nothing else.

>>32615280
>And if you still want to complete the romhack later then just release an update anonymously and that's that.
Neither Prism nor AM2R have been able to do that, and KBM is never allowed to make another Pokémon ROMhack again.
Doesn't seem worth the publicity.

>>32615297
>Doesn't seem worth the publicity.
Not if you don't know how to exploit it.

Can someone please talk about the difficulty of making a fan-made Pokémon game? What if I'm someone who programs in Python, JavaScript, C++, a bit of Swift, etc.? I want to know the difficulty/learning curve for something like this.

>>32615358
If you want to apply programming skills, then use pokecrystal or Essentials. pokecrystal is written entirely in Z80 assembly language (although macros and Crystal's event scripting system make it easier to use). Essentials is built on RPG Maker XP and can be customized with Ruby scripts. Traditional ROM hacking for Gen 3 involves editing binary ROMs, so you end up using tools and hex-editing precise file offsets.

This was page eight.

>>32615539
>>32615358
Ruby and Red also have disassemblies, not just Crystal.

>>32616842
True, but pokeruby is far from complete and there's little reason to use pokered instead of pokecrystal. (What does it have that pokecrystal lacks, Ghosts and the Safari Zone? And more glitches?)

Although you *could* help translate pokeruby from ARM assembly to C. They just added a guide: https://github.com/pret/pokeruby/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md

What's a good hardmode hack for HG/SS that doesn't change the game too much other than improving the overall difficulty and level curve?

>>32615040
Good game design. Read how Super Metroid did it:
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/HugoBille/20120114/90903/The_Invisible_Hand_of_Super_Metroid.php?hn=2

>>32617297
Sacred Gold/Storm Silver

>>32617407
>Sacred Gold/Storm Silver
Looks pretty alright. Anything I should know before playing?

>>32617425
Try Pokémon you might not think are viable. Some have had base stat and type changes, and can learn new moves. Even Unown could be a useful early-game mon.

So in Advance map I can add my own map to already existing locations like let's say Pallet Town. Is it possible to add another location entirely?

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Beta player's house map

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I feel like the dream world art would make a good base for making sprites, especially for the newer games.

https://soundcloud.com/dimbus-maximus/argenchi-city-day

>>32618898
Here' the night version
https://soundcloud.com/dimbus-maximus/argenchi-city-night

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>>32614620
>>32614642
Yeah, thus Valencia Island in the Town Map.

>>32617877

thats a fucking mansion bro

>>32617877
>>32619948
>Player is a lonely rich kid who lives in a huge mansion and uses his/her wealth to go on adventures
This actually sounds really cool desu

>>32619309
Any link? Can't find any for the life of me.

>>32620202

>born into a wealthy family of elite pokemon trainers
>both parents die in a tragic accident while hunting down a legendary
>become sole inheritor of a massive amount of wealth at 11
>set out to avenge familys death by catching legendary and become champion

>>32619948
>>32620202
The tiles aren't built yet, but that building is a lab.
The player's parents are Pokémon Professors who live in a lab on the outskirts of town where the wildlife trails begin.

Is there any hack that allow the other player to play as the npcs and wild pokemons?

>>32621264
Well, in prism you can play as your own pokemon.

>>32615280
Imagine the amount of publicity he will get if the next official game is called Prism. Some people think it might because of Necrozma.

>>32621609
Nintendo might have been going to call it Prism, but I'm sure they won't now that the hack Prism became semi-popular.

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>>32621622

>>32615297
KBM said that Prism was meant to be his last hack and Pokemon thing before the c&d. He's moved on.

>>32620510
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=9658366&postcount=109

>>32620510
>>32621865
Oops, I quoted the wrong post, that was just an update to the reader on what's been implemented since the last alpha, this is the actual last alpha.
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=9654370&postcount=87

Anyone know about player model swapping?
Namely for XY

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How is this for an ice puzzle room terrain wise? I have yet to do the actual puzzle.

>>32623008
looks cold - don't skimp on puzzle quality anon

What are the greatest gen 3 romhacks of all time? Preferably no 386 ones.

Naming stuff is actually the most difficult part of romhacking. At least for me.

>>32623793
what do you need named, my friend?

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>Prism
>okay so see this cave with a fucking ridiculous encounter rate?
>that you can't get out of easily?
>well you have to find a bunch of macguffins in it
>and they're all guarded by strong-ish trainers
>also it's dark and you have to mess with these shitty light systems because I thought it was a cool gimmick

Starting town, which is more of a small valley in a mountain depression.

>>32624006
meant to quote
>>32623942

>>32623982
>prism
>hey, here's the eighth gym
>hey, we're going to take away your pokemon
>get through a gauntlet of the prior gym leaders, did you
>right before the real leader, with burned and poisioned pokemon because fuck you
>I bet you want to heal up, right?
>well, you have to pay 400 yen to get out faggot
>oh, and once you're out, you get to fight them all over again
It was good for grinding, I guess...

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I made a diance sprite based off of its dream world sprite. What do you guys think?

>>32624075
Needs dithering
Face looks a bit flat, as does the rock
Dream World art tends to be simplified heavily, it's a fine place to look for a pose but you should look at other gen 3-5 sprites to get a grasp on the sprite style.

>>32624075
use more black outlines

Bump, it's dying

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Question: I want to play HGSS on an emulator, but I want to trade pokemon between the two.
How can I do so?

>>32629940
I don't think there exist a DS emulator which supports local multiplayer, I heard there was a Wi-Fi one, but the WFC servers are down so whatever.

>>32629940
Easiest way is to just use a save editor and copy the Pokemon from one save file to the other.

>>32630913
That doesn't count as a trade for trade evo purposes, though.

Hey I have a dumb question, sorry if it's already been asked
I have PKSM installed on my homebrew SD card, am I able to use it to modify gen 4 and 5 game data without having CFW installed? Asking because it's not letting me target my Black cart when running the program.

>>32631349
You could change their species and add the evo to your pokédex

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Anyone here have any .pk7 files of some pokemon transferred to gen7 from rby vc? literally any will do as long as its legit. Need them as a base for editing.

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How do you guys plan your cities?
Any suggestions for city decoration?