>A+ rank in OU
What went right?
Z-moves.
Talonflame is gone and it both countered and somewhat outclassed Volcarona, making her much better in OU. Also >>32572868
Movepool
>>32572887
>her
>>32572895
Baited hard, lmao.
>>32572887
>Outclassed
What? How are volcarona and talonflame alike?
>>32572917
They're both frail Fire type sweepers you fucking idiot.
Although admittedly Talonflame's main tool was priority
Brave Bird and Roost rather than Fire moves, but she
could still use them to great effect.
>>32572859
burd gone
>>32572928
neither are frail.
>>32572859
She benefits greatly from Talonshit being neutered.
Z-move and Dugtrio being everywhere. Every physical good water type priority user is bad. Talonflame exist means it's no longer has to compete for a team slot.
>>32572928
>she
>>32573133
Talonflame has 78/71/69, Volcarona has 85/65/105 (so she's physically frail) and both are 4x weak to Stealth Rock.
Z-move and Dugtrio being everywhere. Every physical good water type priority user is bad. Talonflame exist means it's no longer has to compete for a team slot.
>mfw rocks
>>32573137
>she
>>32572859
Should I use Z psychic or Z fireblast on her?
>>32572928
Talonflame and frail in the same sentence? Dude Talonflame is one sturdy bastard, this guy is actually able to tank base 130 atk non stab stone edges after wisp and in Gen6 it was the bane of most fairies with little spdef investment.
Talonflame was a total bro.
>>32573178
>she
>>32572859
>>32572868
>>32572887
Why don't people just use Talonflame's priority Z-Brave Bird?
>>32573567
Because of sneaky stones. If Talonflame's not your lead, you're probably not getting priority anything. And even if it is, unless the first thing you do is fire off that Z-move, the opponent will most likely take a turn to hit your bird and prevent Gale Wings from functioning, if not outright KOing it.
>>32573436
Depends on how well you deal with Toxapex.
My Volcarona sweeps with Double Dances. This is why I made him one of the first Pokémon to be transferred from Omega Ruby come Bank time.
>>32573469
>bro
>>32574016
>him
>>32573567
They do. But it's just a single shot. It doesn't fix how much they broke GW at all.
>>32574159
It IS a him, dumbass. My Timid 5IV Gen 6 ace is a male. Him, him, HIM!
>>32574159
Oh, and another thing, don't ever smear your shit on Final Fantasy. Phantasy Star is what you meant to use a reaction pic from, because fuck Sega.
>>32572895
Mothra motherfucker. 35% of Volcaronas are nicknamed after her
>>32572859
Talonflame getting fucking butchered. It really was the only thing that held back Volcarona in Gen 6 cause it was threatened by none of its moves unless they were at +2. Talonflame could just switch in at any point and then completely stop its sweep effortlessly.
>>32574228
And I call my dick Charlotte. Doesn't make it a girl or she.
>>32572868
Do people use z moves on volcarona, or are you just saying a general good thing about gen 7?
>>32572887
Isn't talonflame still OU? It has literally the strongest prirority in the game still
>>32574287
lel no. With Lel's Psychic Terraine stopping most forms of priority, abilities introduced stopping priority, Koko being faster, and Gale Wings being nerfed, hurt its viability a ton. It's only riche in OU is Priority Supersonic Skystrike, but you have to make sure rocks are cleared and that Psychic Terrain isn't up.
But Talonflame did get banned from RU because tis still incredibly fast and still has hard hitting great offensive STAB combination. Also Yveltal had and still has the strongest prioirty move in the game.
>>32574016
what the fuck is a double dance?
>>32574311
Quiver dance and fiery dance.
Fairy and Steel types are everywhere, and unlike most Fire types it's not scared off by Lando switching in.
>>32574016
Double dance means attack-boosting move + speed boosting move, not literally two dancing moves.
>>32574357
Just because SD and Rock Polish is what your terminology for a double dance might be, doesn't have to make it everyone else. Smogon head ass.
>>32573436
Bloom doom
>went from Gen VI UU
>to top threat in what's basically Ubers-Lite
Feels good.
>>32573282
>rapid spin
>Defog
>>32573436
>her
Anyone who runs Fire Blast on it is retarded. Just want everyone else to know that, for the record.
>>32573170
>Azumarill is bad
>still has Aqua Jet, Huge Power, and Belly Drum
>now comes with a side of Fairy typing and Play Rough
ok.