This isn't a rock type

This is a rock type

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This isn't a rock

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>>32560909
Fug, forgot pic.

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>>32560903
>implying that coal is a rock

>>32560903
This still sometimes fucks me up.

>>32560903
and its so much better off for it

>>32561530

>Coal is just dead trees
>Not a Grass/Ghost type

I do think fire/rock fits torkoal but:

>Torkoal: 70, 85, 140, 85, 70, 20
>Magcargo: 60, 50, 120, 90, 80, 30

If both were fire/rock they'd be practically the same pokemon, drought and rapid spin aside.

Slow bulky rock/fire. That worked so well for Macargo

>>32562369
>430 bst
>With that typing
>and that mediocre stat distribution
Holy shit, why is Magcargo so fucking terrible.
Not even slow defensive Ice types have it that bad.

>>32560903
>Implying turtles are ninjas

You can't make it Rock/Fire because Magcargo.

And you can't make it Ground/Fire because Camerupt.

>>32562705
An unfortunate example of concept over usability.

A slug made out of lava is pretty neat. Evolving into a lava snail with a rock shell is appropriate and equally neat.

But since it's a snail, that means it has to have high defense and low speed. And since it's Rock/Fire it's extremely weak to Ground and Water, both very good and popular offensive types, and the latter is the most common type by far.

>>32562726
Wut?

>>32563194
He's saying torkoal can't be this or that type because this or that pokemon already has said type.

Which only makes a bit of sense on magcargo because their stats are already so similar (that didn't stop our 4 slow physical grass/ghost types anyways), and is just a stupid complain when compared to camerupt, that has nothing to do with torkoal stat or niche-wise.

>WANTING the best drought setter to have a 4x weakness to ground and water

Lulllz

>>32562737
It doesn't help that it was conceived in the 2nd generation where a lot of pokemon were useless state wise. Magcargo is my absolute favorite pokemon but he is so utterly unusable, bringing him into any battle no matter the format is jut a dead weight. It hurts