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How do we make him OU? (or at least UU)
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More support moves so it actually has something to do
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beast boost raises max hp
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>>32526191

He's fat, so better defenses and maybe an ability that actually compliments his stats. Since raising HP stat is impossible, maybe something like Filter or something to get rid of his crippling typing (Hydreigon is at least kind of fast).
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Give him a Mega

HP 223
Atk 101
Def 113(+60)
Sp.A 97
Sp.D 113(+60)
Spe 23(-20)
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>>32526191
swap offences with defenses and give it slack off

alternatively, so he's not too broken, drop his HP down by like 50 points to buff the defenses. still give him slack off tho
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>>32526191
Give it gunk shot, recover, and cosmic power.
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>>32526265
it already has stockpile, and Z-stockpile is a full recover
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>>32526285
Yeah, but stockpile only gets to +3, and wasting an item slot on a 1 time recovery is pretty shitty.
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>>32526295
but it's something it can do with what it has currently so it's not that bad, considering it has no other recovery besides rest. can't wait to try it out in NU not that it'll ever happen ;__;l
also heavy slam>gunk shot
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>>32526313
Yes it is bad. You're wasting your Z-move for a shitty 1 time recovery. Maybe if it got recycle it could see some viability with a chesto resto set. Gunk shot would be able to kill all of the tapus on the switch so I don't see how heavy slam is better.
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>Knock Off
>Pursuit
>Sucker Punch
>Stealth Rock
>Outrage
>Fire Punch
>Hone Claws
>Nasty Plot
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>>32526191
130 defences
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>>32526265
>gunk shot
Could happen via move tutors.

Speaking of tutors, Pain Split seems possible. It's not the best possible healing move, but it's better than nothing.
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>>32526191
This thing is just a clusterfuck of contradictions.

It's typing is best suited to an offensive role, but it's far too slow. Defensively, it's a mixed bag that fairs terribly in the current Fairy-dominated meta.

It's bulk is horribly inefficient. 108/108/108 defenses accomplish the same thing with less overall BST. Seriously, the Wailord build is probably the worst stat distribution you can give to a Pokemon. Even worse than a slow, frail mixed attacker, because all those stat points are being wasted in HP when they could at least go into making your offenses better.

It would ideally be suited for a tank or Crocune set, but it has no stat up moves or any support moves at all for that matter. Even Recover by itself would be enough to vault this thing out of RU.
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>>32526391
but anon-kun, all the stats need to be prime numbers

but I agree, balloon mons need to drop their HP for some defenses or at least 1 good offensive stat
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>>32526191
Fuck OU, I can make it Uber with one change. Just one.
Beast Boost -> Imposter.
On a slightly more serious note, giving it Innards Out instead might make it OU
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>>32526191
I want this mess to be retconned. In fact, I want all UBs to be retconned out of existence for the next gen.
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>>32526725
>being this anal pained about fictional monster number 800
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>>32526191
Cut 60 from hp/spa/spe and redistribute into defenses
Outrage
Loses Dark type
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>>32526386
>It's not the best possible healing move
probably because it wouldn't
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>>32526795
>implying anyone uses physical Guzzlord when beast boost draco meteor is a thing
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>>32526936
if you're trying to use special guzzlord you should come to your senses just use hydreigon
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>>32526920
Oh shit, you're right. Completely forgot about its base HP.

My bad!
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>>32527334
poor man's hydreigon is still better than physical guzzlord
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>>32526191
>swap its offenses and defenses
>give it foul play and slack off
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>>32526191
Nah, it's good as it is, don't care about it not being optimized for OU. It has one of favorite stat distributions.
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>>32526265
>Gunk Shot

While that would be nice against fairies, don't forget it already gets Heavy Slam. Which it can use just fine seeing how it weighs more than Mega Steelix.
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>>32526191
pursuit and slack off would be great, or going full meme and give all the UBs and Tapus second forms, in this case, give it another ability like regenerator, or if your want an AG mon an insta-trick room
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>>32526725
>wanting to get rid of Jojo skeeter
>wanting to get rid of Dancing christmas tree
>wanting to get rid of hungry hombre
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>>32526191
Needs Ultra Chomp attack- Dark 130 damage Acc: 90. Heals 1/3 HP
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>>32526229
We want to make him OU, not AG.
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>>32526191
Coil/Dragon Dance/ Thousand Arrows
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>>32526205
This would probably actually make him somewhat viable to use while still being a niche and strange pokemon, unlike the other suggestions which are just "make it like another pokemon"
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Poison/Dark type.

Learns Curse.

The end.
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>>32526191
buff his base stats by a truckton so he can devour anything in his path haha
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