This is the most unfun, unfair and senseless pile of garbage I have ever had the displeasure of experiencing.
>>32519382
Gen III Battle frontier is overrated as fuck.
>>32520219
Battle Frontier in general is overrated as fuck. Why do people like being RNG-fucked by the AI? What's the fun in that? I'd rather just play online or something.
>>32520227
They don't, but online wasn't an option back on the GBA era, so it's like tough shit, you either get friendsl-loland battle with them, or you settle for the dedicated "competitive" areas of the game, specially on Emerald since it was one if its biggest draws to begin with.
Getting RNG'd does NOT equate to difficulty, so you can't even pull the meme "le git gud Xd" card because RNG is beyond that.
Good fucking luck avoiding OHKOs that don't miss, good fucking luck hitting your moves when the foe has a flawless Brightpowder, good fucking luck never hitting through confusion or paralysis, good fucking luck getting set to sleep for five turns, good fucking luck getting critted in the worst moments.
Getting the gold symbols in Emerald has to be the most grueling objective you could possibly set yourself. You literally have to arm yourself with pseudolegends with damn good IVs, EV trained and with egg moves, or otherwise you're basically fucked. And even then, the higher your streak, the higher the chance of RNG fucks you over.
Gamefreak can't make good offline battle facilities without resorting to literal artificial difficulty. The Frontier usually gets a pass because it was the start of them being more inviting to competitive gameplay in-universe, but that doesn't change the fact the place is rigged to hell and back and is mechanically fucked to put you at a disadvantage.
>>32519382
This was my least favorite but I somehow managed to get the silver symbol for it way back. It pretty much took decent pokes AT LEAST with the right natures, a lot of tries, and a lot of luck.
>>32519382
When they bring back the Battle Frontier, they should replace the rules of this place with those from the Battle Castle.
>>32519382
KYS
I still love it
>>32520361
>Getting RNG'd does NOT equate to difficulty, so you can't even pull the meme "le git gud Xd" card because RNG is beyond that.
This is actually another draw. People would rather play against the computer and then blame the RNG when they lose than play against others and face the fact that they may actually not be as good as they thought at battling
>>32521371
That's retarded and makes me angrier than it should.
>>32519382
Amen.
>>32520219
>>32520227
Battle Pike, Pyramid, Factory, Castle, Roulette and Hall are the fucking shit though. I god damn love those facilities, they're fun as hell. Fuck the Battle Palace, I just want the other ones back.
>>32520361
it's not arteficial difficulty, it's just statistics. Say you have a tyranitar with stone edge as your main pokemon, the odds of hitting 10 stone edges in a row is only 10% aka you're just setting yourself up to be fucked. People look at smogon and say "ah yes I'll use fire blast as my STAB/coverage move of choice just as smogon suggests" when you absolutely have to use flamethrower unless you're an RNG god. Similarly you absolutely have to use fast pokemon, preferbly those that set-up speed. Your conkeldurr/mamoswine/whatever might seem strong but every turn your opponent gets to hit you is another turn where you can be put to sleep or flinched or critted. If you're on a streak you need to avoid that at all costs.
People are dumb and think that they can go into these facilities and use the same strategies as they use on showdown without realising that on showdown you play to win while in the battle tower you play to not lose.
>>32519382
The odds were a mistake.
>the least offensive Nature suddenly gets hyperoffensive once it gets <50% HP
what the fuck GF
>>32522557
Clearly you should use a Lonely Pokemon with Belly Drum.
>>32520219
kys
>>32522557
That's actually hilarious
>>32522547
This is pretty much why I used wide lens on Pheromosa in the SM Battle Tree, I couldn't risk a HJK miss fucking me over. It sort of worked, that was my first and only 50+ wins run.
>>32522557
What is this? I don't understand.
>>32522547
>you absolutely have to use flamethrower unless you're an RNG god
You're right, instead of using an inaccurate move like Stone Edge, I should use Smack Down, instead. Instead of using Focus Blast, I should use fucking Hidden Power. I'm sure there'll be NO repercussions from this WHATSOEVER.
>>32522605
In the Battle Palace, your Pokemon act independently based on their Nature. Each nature has a different percent chance of what type of move they'll use on their turn.
I wonder what battle palace multis would have been like with a cpu partner
>>32522612
Wow, now that list makes sense and it's retarded.
>>32522547
Statistics are fine when they are not tied to the goddamned natures of your Pokémon.
This place basically forces you to raise Pokémon with shit natures for arbitrary reasons, because if you don't you will never even be able to attack.
It's not fun and it's not fair. Level grinding was already boring enough in the old games, and this made you raise Pokémon that were useless and flat out bad in any other battling context. And even if you do everything right, the RNG still has the ability to fuck you over, just because, with little to no blame on you the player.
Where's the skill in that? Ironically this facility requires more luck than the Pike, which is the supposed luck facility.
>>32523646
What happens if you just give them attacking moves?
>>32523658
>[Pokémon] seems unable to use its power!
>turn lost
Joy.
Yeah if there's one facility I can give the anti-BF group a point towards, it's the Palace.
>>32519382
I never had a problem getting the gold symbol on this one. The battle pyramid however...
>>32523674
Man that's absolute bullshit
I remember everyone saying the Battle Pike was the easiest to get the symbol for, but I never got it. The only ones I got were Factory and Arena.
>>32523747
The Pyramid is just really really slow, but it's definitely not the hardest.
All trainers just have the one Pokemon which usually goes down without much trouble.
What I still don't understand is how running away from wilds works. I would imagine a timid 350 speed Latios would manage to outspeed anyone, but I still get the "Can't escape!" more times than not.
>>32523771
BF is an overglorified casino.
>>32520361
>Emulate emerald some 4 years ago
>Have pkhex or whatever
>Hack a team of legal but 31 IV'd pokémon with EVs already spread and moves too to have them from the beggining, all of my chosing (3 starters, Metagross,Salamence and Slaking)
>Reach BF
>Wreck that fucking place with savestates but also have fun doing it
Not gonna lie, felt fucking good to do it since as a Kid I could only get silver medals and that's it, also, being able to speed up the battles and shit really helped, then I transfered the save to my Emerald cartridge, RNG is bulshit and not fun at all if it happens to you (CPU also cheats).
>>32525974
>using savestates
It's like you want me to not take you seriously.
I got some good RNG'd Pokemon from some guy's save, but I still refuse to use savestates. I know the place literally cheats but c'mon. Might as well play with infinite HP at that point.
>>32519382
but anon, this is, was, and will be the only place in any game where Gentle natured pokemon aren't fucking worthless
>>32522607
no, you should use pokemon that don't rely on Focus Miss and Hidden Power
Why would you ever use Focus Miss in a facility where M-Luke is available? If you need a special fighting move then use Adaptability Aura Sphere
>>32519382
you falled for the battle frontier meme, stay away from that garbage son
Platinums BF was pretty cool.
>>32528356
No, no it wasn't.
>>32519382
This requires a ton of prep. You can't just use regular mons and succeed. For example, I used a mon with only 1 attack and choice band and switched it in strategically with great success.
>>32528356
I havent played Pt.
I thought it was the same shit copy pasted but with other frontier brains.
>>32528359
It was a lot easier, and I'd rather play a dumbed down BF than have to go through the autism and frustration of Gen 3's BF again.
>>32528356
Nah, it was watered down garbage. The current Battle Tree is much better than Pt Frontier.
>>32519382
I fucking loved the battle frontier, it's a shame they ditched the theme park concept after emerald for the other games
>the battle tower is much better than the battle tower + 4 other facilities
>>32522547
t. Somebody that's never played in a Battle Facility
Grab those statistics and multiply them against yourself.
50% chance to hit yourself? Let's make that 70%.
30% chance the opponent will OHKO you with Fissure? 60%.
Now you're playing in a battle facility.
I just want a rental facility again, that was fun
>>32519382
Well you'll never have to experience it again, anon ;_;
>>32520219
>7 facilities
>5 are god tier
Nah.