ITT: favorite routes

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>>32495839
>we will never have super long routes again
>we will never have to go through 2-3 routes to reach a town again

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>>32495839

>>32495906
But why, Game Freak? Why?

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>>32495946
While the river is an improvement, I like how secluded the little pond looks in the original GSC.
In every run, I always make a stop there before going for the league.

So what are your favorite routes of every region, /vp/?

Routes 120 and 121, Unova routes 10 and 23, Kalos Routes 15 and 16. I really like Poni Wilds and Poni Plains as well, but they're not numbered routes so they may or may not count.

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sinnoh 216 and 217

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>>32496027
>tfw when I was sick I'd play silver on my super gameboy and fish for dratini/dragonair in that pond for hours
>tfw they took the dragons out of that pond in hg/ss

>>32496040
You must be a masochist

>>32496137
Not the same anon and I love that snowy place.

>>32496137
just catch a sneasel, snorunt, snover, or swinub and youre fine from hail
i love being in the cold, snow, night, and ice is the best type anyway

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A lot of the Kalos routes are really comfy imo, Muraille Coast one and Cyllage City were my favorite locations

>>32496027
to be fair, the whole route feels secluded. I loved how that corner of Johto is just tucked away in the mountains

I like the Sinnoh snow routes...

>>32496040
Literally the worst route in the entire franchise after the first one from XY

All of Hoenn's routes were great.

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I really don't like how weak the FRLG post-game trainers were. But this one.

Unova's Route 10, and the music. Unova had some pretty alright routes in general

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>>32500403
I love the route after Driftveil, with the Seasonal Research Lab. I always loved how that river looks, with the clear, flowing water.

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>>32495839

>>32500117
Ooh, I remember spamming Pay Day with Meowth to max out coins on this route.

>>32500537
same

>>32496040
I love this one too, I don't get why people hate it so much.

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>>32495839
>tfw you'd rather have a 3rd gen remake now, instead of chibi mess ORAS

Routes 38, 39, 47, and 48

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What's your favorite route theme? Not necessarily favorite route, but that one song that just gets you going every time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfARFF9S5Jg

Route 113 for me, so fucking bittersweet. The swelling of the song really hits me hard.

>>32500117
Islands 4-7 were just so damn comfy

>>32499672
>...
Kill yourself.

>>32500890
Right? Holy shit. So much to do, so much to explore. It really captured the coziness of Johto with the mons and music on top of that top-tier map design. I would kill for another Sevii Islands.

>TFW we didn't get it in ORAS so we'll probably never get it though

>>32500914
Why the fuck would they have been included in oras when there was already cut content? That's retarded thinking anon. Also RBG remakes are inevitable so chill the fuck out.

Seriously why tf would we have got it in ORAS

>>32500935
Just seemed like the most relevant generation to include it in, I wasn't saying it was feasible that we would've gotten it, just that it'd be the most likely one if somehow miraculously we did

>>32500935
>TFW R/B/Y remakes
>No Sevii Islands because lole it's a remake of R/B not FR/LG :^)))))) enjoy ur shitty battle maison

>>32500873
https://youtu.be/DYaYEEWkthI
Great sense of achievement and challenge, amazing theme for the last routes of the game.

>>32500956
I like the night version better, personally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTbahCmBHr8

Same feeling, but really encompasses that relaxed, snazzy Sinnoh atmosphere perfectly.

>>32500970
The alternation in the instruments make it a little laid back for me but you're right, it has great pacing especially if you play that part for long enough to hear both versions.

>>32495839
Best route in Hoenn, by fucking far. Easily one of the only ones that is a pure delight to explore for me

>>32495946
Comfy as fuck, and it's poetic how you reach the bottom of the mountain and you're back home!

>>32496040
This is a real normie filter. Anybody who complains about this route is missing the point completely. One of the few times the games TRULY push you to your limits, in a harsh and lonely enviornment. You go through Mt. Coronet, scale down a mountain, and then push through a fucking blizzard. Your Pokémons health is chipping away by the second, and there's a few little landmarks of interest too. Your Eevee may not have evolved at this point, so stumbling into that big blue rock could be a great moment.

The sense of relief you feel when you make it to Snowpoint (If you make it!) is huge, and that is a good sign that the game has just tested you with some REAL adventure, and you pulled through.

I remember playing through it at nighttime when I was much younger, and it was a very magical stand-out moment.

>>32496207
The first half of Kalos is literally 11/10, all the routes are stunning.

Sadly the awkward chibi artstyle, and the patchwork-feel of the second half of the region, have really tainted Kalos as a whole.

>>32500520
Unova has a lot of good locations. The desert, Chargestone, Twist Mountain, Village Bridge, practically every route between towns.

Even some of the towns are fantastic and offer exploration. Castelia (along with the sewers) has a lot of hidden areas. Virbank is also really comfy.

>>32500403
Route 10 was one of the few toned-down/boring routes, but I think they wanted to focus mostly on the music and melancholy feeling of your adventure coming to its end.

>>32500537
I unironically like it. It felt like a step into a larger, prettier world. Not supposed to be a proper route.

>>32500873
This route is pretty neat

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This, it's just a route that keeps on giving. So many hidden parts and secrets to find. I would post OP's, but it's already been posted. If I could include the entire stretch of route from Mauville to Mosdeep, I would, what a fantastic area.

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I like the Ruins of Alph, and everything that surrounds them

>Union Cave entrance
>small cave,
>comfy to explore,
>found TWO shinies there,
>has secret Lapras
>south exit leads to Kurt and his Apricorn Balls

>The eastern entrance
>where I first saw a Legendary Pokémon in Gold (Suicune),
>has the magnet train tracks,
>long winding route is where the Johto adventure really feels like it begins, now that you're out of your neighborhood

>northern entrance
>Has day-of-the-week character
>And the Sudowudo that when overcome leads to Ecruteak/Goldenrod

And then the ruins themselves need no explanation. Creepy as fuck, tons of hidden shit to figure out and find, and even a DLC adventure starting there.

Everything about that corner of Johto screams comfy rural adventure and intrigue. I enjoy exploring every time I play.

Everything after that feels like a more traditional adventure, a blend of Kanto/Hoenn/Sinnoh elements. And that's fine, but it's that earlier corner of Johto that makes the region special to me.

>>32501118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iem9iN1Ds8

Fucking hell man, it's like they put a creepypasta in the game. I love it when they do shit like that, it's like in R/S/E when they made the playground rumors of "IF YOU RUN AROUND THIS AREA WITH THESE TWO POKEMON IN THESE SPECIFIC PARTS OF YOUR PARTY THEN A LEGENDARY POPS OUT!!!" a reality. I wish they did more neat stuff like that and the friday Lapras. Nowadays it's all so damn predictable and linear.

>>32501141
Yeah, recent Pokémon games have railroaded things too much.

Gen 5 still had a lot of mystery though.

>Castelia Desert and the ruins which you are never actually told to explore
>The Abyssal Ruins in B2W2
>That Zoroark in Losthorn
>Finding Landorus
>And Cobalion in that cave
>And the hidden Castelia areas from the Sewers
>The B2W2 Regi Puzzles (everyone forgets B2W2 had its own Regi puzzles!)

Plenty of hidden areas and mystery and secrets to figure out and find.

Gen 6 is when Game Freak started to give up and, to put it nicely, focus on other things in the games.

I miss when there was more mystery and exploration in Pokémon.

>>32501141
>Be 10
>In Ruins of Alph
>Turn on Radio
>Shit brix

>>32500873
Route 110
Perfectly fits the middle of any adventure

>>32501153
Totally. The continued playability of games just fucking plummeted at gen 6. Now there's barely anything left to explore in Sun and Moon, we have a grand total of a single area and the place that connects to it that you wouldn't find during normal gameplay, and all it is is a shitty bay with nothing in it.

>>32501175
There was also the desert area in S/M, but it was shit.

S/M were a step forward in a lot of places, but in terms of exploration and adventure, they took three steps back from X/Y, which were three steps back from B2/W2

Kalos Route 13. With the Kalos Route 8 theme playing, braving the sandstorms and the burrowing Pokémon made me feel like a heroic badass pushing on despite difficult odds.

True Kalos is Babby's first Pokémon game but the feel of that road was amazing.

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>>32495839
Get the weather crisis music to play before exploring routes 124-125-126-127-128 in their entirety and you got yourself a great fucking experience

>>32501184
I actually missed that desert place my first run through didn't find it till I was trying to complete the pokedex. Got all excited there was a new area to explore. Man was I disappointed.

>>32501104
I love hoenn so much, and 115 is my favorite route. I remember when I first discovered that gap between the rocks and entered the hidden section, got Jigglypuff and tm01. I always make my secret base on that little patch of sand, below the tree.

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>>32501189
That sounds like an actual fucking nightmare

>>32501199
No anon, I've done it and the constant storm and weather rolls (sunny/rain) before every trainer battle makes it fucking interesting.

>>32501212
More interesting gameplay wise I guess, and solarbeaming/thundering in the sun/rain would help clear it easier.

But the thought of doing all those water routes is always off-putting to me, especially if this "classic" music is making my ears bleed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzeGusU8z_s

I guess some people must have fond childhood memories/attachment or something, because I can't fathom how surfing constantly for 5+ routes is fun to anybody

>>32501054
It's just a straight line you moron. it's a slow, annoying route. it doesn't offer anything beyond chipping your mons down and obscuring your screen with flour

>>32501238
>needing solarbeam/thunder in a gameplay
>ever
Aside from that if you have shit taste that's another story, Hoenn water routes are the best routes by far. Besides I was talking about Emerald:

https://youtu.be/rj9hVFSKceQ

It's the only game in which you get weather rolls since in RS you have one or the other.

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>>32501284
>Hoenn water routes are the best routes by far.

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>>32500873
>tfw oras ruined this song

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>>32501294
>having my mom's regular route with patches of grass as a favorite

>>32496207
this is hands down the best route in kalos, they really nailed what a european coastline looks and feels like

>>32501238
To each their own. I personally love the Surfing routes in most games, especially the ones in Hoenn.

>>32501054
Please don't reply to so many posts at once, it makes reading a thread and following reply chains more difficult than necessary.

>>32500873
You posted it, but to post the second best,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc5YFrh8mVM

>>32500873
Route 10 in BW.

>>32500873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51mu_hlbQ-A

Has some parts of every region to it, with a lot of Sinnoh to it. Overall, just a very wonder-inducing theme. Oddly, it sounds better in Gen III's soundfont.

>>32495839
you posted it OP

>>32496040
>only crossed once
>fucking snow slowing you down killing the comfy feeling
at least the music was good

>>32501439
>>32500956
>>32501452
good taste

>>32501153
>>32501175
>>32501184
agreed

>all this hoenn

Reminds me of a time back in middle school

>bring gameboy for show and tell
>hide in pants since I wanted to play
>English period
>teacher is making us read a story I already read in advance
>ask to be excused
>fire up ruby
>exploring meteor falls after getting waterfall
>discover that cave in the back
>find dragon claw
>"dragon claw = dragons"
>run around a while
>encounter a bagon
>"omg wtf is that"
>first pokemon game so I've never even heard of dragons that aren't dragonite
>Catch it
>head back to class
>teacher asks why I took so long
>told her I had a bad breakfast
>since I was in the top of my class she believes it
>get home
>decide to show neighbor my bagon
>he whips out motherfucking rayquaza
>middle school me is BTFOed

Ahhh memories

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaQNMdGl89c
I really love route 47. It's not just the music, but the whole sense of wonder. Think about it
>new area in old place, showing how there's always something to discover even if you think you've seen everything
>hidden fertile valleys inland, hinting there's more landmass, probably even a new region you can stumble upon by walking like with Kanto
>waterfall cliffs, showing the edge of the region, as the southern horizon makes you wonder just how far of a Surf Hoenn could be
>the Embedded Tower also adds to your curiosity. If the legendary pokemon of Hoenn have their own resting place in the region, really, just how close could you get to it if you simply Surfed past that seemingly endless horizon
It's just one of the themes that makes me love HGSS. There's this whole sense of one world, and it's all connected! Not like how isolated Unova, Kalos, and Alola are. You can actually see the influence Kanto and Johto have on each other, you can visit Kanto, you can visit the Sinjoh Ruins, you can meet Steven Stone, you can catch the Latis, you can see Giovanni in the past, you can trade with so many npcs and Lt Surge even gives you a French (English in Japanese versions) Pikachu, showing that there's so much more to this world than just the 48 routes you've explored in this one journey. What's stopping you from visiting Kanto? What's stopping you from going further? What's stopping you from exploring the world? If it weren't a video game, the answer would be nothing. The world is yours to see and experience, and HGSS makes a wonderful job of telling you that. I can't help but feel that Hoenn is just around the corner, that the world is just around that corner. That the pokemon world has so many opportunities and expansive regions just waiting to be explored. That our world is just waiting for us to experience it. A neverending expanse: the ocean, the land, the sky. That's why I love route 47.

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Every autumn route in XY

14, 15, and 16 were all comfy as fuck

>>32501736
I have nothing more to add, just want to say top notch post

It's funny how OR/AS get and got so much hate, but they have a good majority of the best routes

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>>32495839
Does the little road leading up to the Ruins of Conflict count? No pokemon to catch, but damn was is atmospheric.

>>32501855
It's because they have the routes of R/S/E, but are ugly as fuck so people tend to use the R/S/E versions in these threads instead.

>>32501855
What >>32501873 said, I love the Hoenn routes for their RSE incarnations. The only route that really works well in ORAS is Route 120, and that's just because it looks gorgeous at night when you walk over the bridge and see the stars.

>>32501855
Not they don't.

There's a few stand-out routes which are admittedly among the best in the franchise, such as the one in the OP.

But that's cherrypicking the good Hoenn routes, the vast majority of that region is utter fucking trash.

Also OR/AS gets hate because;

>A) Did not include gameplay improvements, nor additional content from Emerald
>B) Did not update the layout of routes to cater to the jump from 3D, making it look clunky and awkward

This meant that not only were Pokémon fans disappointed by the mediocre games and their lack of content, but it didn't even meet the expectations of Pokémon fans that actually really like Hoenn.

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>>32496027
I like the update from HGSS, but the original GSC route will always be special for me. It was the first place I encountered Raikou roaming while playing Crystal version at night as a kid. It was one of those legendary moments in the history of the franchise that will stay with me forever.

>>32501916
Please point out which you believe are trash and why.

>>32501932
For starters, the 7 water routes that are staples together, three of which are conjoined by strong water currents, and half of which are twice as long because of the dive areas.

Nobody in their right mind could defend that, but earlier in the thread someone unironically said they were the best routes in the game, so arguing this shit is moot.

>>32501945
I enjoy them, personally, there's a lot of places to explore on them. I do think they probably shouldn't have been mandatory, though.

>>32501956
Not all of them were mandatory to be fair.

The strong current routes could be left until post game.

I also like the ideas that went into the routes;

>Hidden Regi ruins underwater
>Dive spots for more exploration
>yin/yang, Land/Sea themes to explain the region layout

The problem is that all of this water was clumped together, and there is almost NOTHING there.

Almost no islands, almost all of the encounters are just Tentacool/Wingull. It just ends up being a slog of surfing for the last 1/3rd of the game while you try to wrap up the story threads as fast as possible so that you can get back to the actual land again.

If there was more interesting landmarks, and a better balance of water areas, and Pokémon variety, it would have been better.

OR/AS did add Sea Mauville to one of the water routes which was one of the few things I loved about OR/AS, but I still found the game a slog

>>32501997
>OR/AS did add Sea Mauville to one of the water routes
"Sea Mauville" is a reskinned Abandoned Ship, which was in RSE as well. Personally I think Sea Mauville is one of the few improved areas in ORAS due to how unique it is and all the hidden lore in the different rooms if you check the bookshelves, but it was around in the originals, just fluffed differently.
I agree with you that the lack of variety is the worst part of Hoenn's water routes. With how many Water-types there are in the game they really could have spread things out better.

>>32501303
oras butchered so many songs its not even funny

>>32502052
>TFW they butchered my precious Mt. Pyre

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
They just totally deleted the frenetic, fast-paced nature of it and added shitty techno like they did to all the songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vif4oZGnH0

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thxFklxbs_c

>>32501118
To this day Ruins of Alph are my favorite location in any Pokémon game. I'm a sucker for creepy locations. I loved Pokemon Tower in RBY and the Old Chateau in DPP, but those areas felt more explained and integrated into the game's plot. That was my biggest gripe with the abandoned supermarket in SM, the fact the game railroads you through it. I like it when the creepy areas feel off to the side and truly neglected.

The Ruins of Alph were just a total mystery to me as a kid, and apart from catching Smeargle and Xatu nearby their purpose wasn't really clear.

>>32501945
Wow, it's almost like people enjoy different things about this game.

>>32502108
>Asked my opinion
>then told im not allowed to have an opinion

>>32502109
I admittedly only replied to that one post in the reply chain and didn't read the others like a retard

>>32502119
Its ok anon, i forgive you

>>32502109
That anon wasn't me. My reply was
>>32501956

Also, I'd say that anon's post was more in favor of having opinions, but saying that they're just that, opinions and that they aren't right or wrong, which you seemed to be implying by saying "nobody in their right mind could defend that".

>>32502132
As much as I dislike Hoenn and the water routes, I never really wanted an argument.

This is one of the few positive threads on /vp/, about sharing our favorite locations.

I don't want to change that at all, so I will take my own advice and encourage everyone to move on and focus on posting more good locations.

And at least try to be civil and fair when disagreeing.

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No Bell Tower/Tin Tower? This place had such a nice theme and I enjoyed exploring it.

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>>32502148
I was being civil and fair, you're the one who was saying inflammatory shit like "nobody in their right mind could defend that".

Regardless, you do have a good point. Let's move on and post comf.

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>Looking through Johto routes
>Find the little alcove at the bottom

Mother of god, it's been 16 years and I still haven't found that. That's some Jigglypuff area in Emerald shit right there.

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>>32502160
Yeah thats a lovely place. The route leading into it is nice too.

>>32502174
I didn't mean to sound inflammatory, I apologize.

I feel passionately about these games that I've played all my life, so when defending my opinion I got heated.

But again, I don't want any arguments in this thread mate, so I won't do that anymore

>>32502180
I remember finding that area as a kid

My mind was blown. I remember the girls give you an item, and tell you to piss off and keep the area a secret.

In HG/SS, the first two girls are a double battle too, making it even more exciting.

>Jigglypuff area in Emerald shit
What?

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>>32502180
>that Azalea gatehouse in the corner
Wait a second did they keep that unused route connection from GSC when they remade the game?

>>32502196
Check it out. This seemingly insignicant route in Emerald actually has two secret areas to find by surfing. One to throw you off, one that's the actual secret area. That little nestled away patch of grass is the only place in the game you can find Jigglypuff.

>>32501104

>>32502198
There are a lot of insane, weird connections in these games. If you walk through walls on ever grande city from one end of the outside of Victory Road to the next, you'll actually wind up on the other side of victory road. It's amazing how much effort they put into keeping things connected that nobody will ever reach.

>>32501284
>Weather Crisis
>It's just Heavy Rain slowed down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Db9NDkTUQ

>>32501855
No they dont. I personally find them mostly boring. And 17 Water routes is unforgivable. Do love the route above Rustboro though.

>>32502198
no, the implication is that the three girls are deep in Ilex Forest. The Ilex Map is shrunk on the outside

I especially love the route because it's like a beta triple battle happening here.

>>32501054
>One of the few times the games TRULY push you to your limits
>easily avoidable grass
>easily avoidable trainers
>no challenge
>just a chore you have to slog through
Can we have Sinnohfetuses banned? I mean, it wouldn't be so bad if they knew the game they were defending but come on, there's literally a house that offers free healing

>>32502647
Stop shitting up the thread

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the hidden part on the side of pokemon center

>>32502769
It was actually innaccessible in GSC but then HGSS altered Route 30 so you could get to it

>>32502647
(You)

>>32502769
What was the point of it?

>>32496011
>>32495906
We literally just had a thread complaining about any route that wasn't a trainer corridor. This is the future the fandom chose.

>>32502840
You can surf there from another route

There an item there

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>>32502840
Mystery, I bet. There's a lot of mysterious areas in Pokemon games just beyond reach.

>>32502647
but muh immersion

>>32502868
Yes, muh immersion. People enjoy the games for different reasons, anon.

>>32502868
Oh how dare they have memorable and immersive locations in a role play game

>>32501189
It is a shame Hoenn didn't do more with Dive. There is a lot of room for more creative stuff with it.

>>32502884
>>32502900
Yes I know, that was why I said muh immersion. I wasn't actually being sarcastic, I think the idea of making snow like, you know, snow is a step in the right direction in terms of making routes more interesting.

>>32502990
I liked it in B2W2 where you get to explore those ruins

>>32503013
I actually didn't like that too much. I was so excited for dive, only to find out it wasn't an exploration tool like in Emerald, but a "Hold forward until you wind up at a single temple" thing.

>>32502990
It's a shame Alola didn't do anything with it. I was really hoping for larger beach routes because I like Alola's aesthetic.

>>32501212
Now I really want to try this with Castform

>>32501736
10/10 post.

"Sense of wonder" is exactly what I've felt in Route 47 ever since I first got there. I personally link music and experiences very strongly so for me the bgm especially makes the route feel so magical. The sense of "whole world" it gives is like nothing else in the series.

>>32495906
blame: >>32489636

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>>32503174
>People ganging up on perfectly good areas
>The only replies to Kalos Route 1 are "I loved it!!!"

Holy shit, you aren't kidding.

>>32503174
/vp/ is utter cancer

Only reason I am in this thread is because it's a rare time of people coming together to appreciate good things

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>>32503174
>Entire thread of "sinnoh is shit, only sinnohfetuses defend it!!"
Oh joy

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I don't know why I love it so much.

>>32503205
seems like people are sick of having "platinum is the best game" shoved down their throats every opportunity

>>32503236
I never see anybody say that though

>>32503244
There are threads about it all the time. It's my favorite besides Crystal and even I think it's obnoxious. I honestly think it's just people who hate platinum falseflagging. Same with the people who make the PMD EoS <<<<<<<<< ALL AAAAAA EVERYTHING ELSE SUCKS threads

>>32503244
don't lie, there are threads all the time about platinum and how it's the greatest thing ever
the same shit is happening to hgss, people are getting sick of having it shoved down their throats

>>32502844
Not my fandom

>>32503244
It's right up there. Plat, Emerald, HGSS and BW2 are ones that are mentioned the most as the best game. Maybe even in that order.

>>32503282
I'd say it's more B2W2 >>>>>> HG/SS > Plat >>>> Emerald in terms of overmentioning.

>>32503282
Those are the best games though

>>32503273
>>32503262
Platinum is not my favorite, it's 3rd place IMO, but im seeing way more Sinnoh hate on /vp/ than anything else.

But /vp/ is shit and has devolved into genwars so whatever

>>32503293
Thats literally the correct order of best games though.

Emerald is the one that everyone sucks off because "muh frontier"

>>32501054
THIS, THIS, SO MUCH THIS.

>>32503273
pt and hgss are objectively the best games in the series though, lets be real

>>32502647
You are the cancer which killed pocket monsters.

>>32503341
Actually platinum was the thing that killed pokemon considering it caused Gamefreak to shift into a more casualized outlook of gaming.

>>32503348
BW was no easier than platinum.

Gen 6 was when the casualization started, with the multiple starters, freebie Megas and Legendaries, EXP "Share", ect

>>32503376
>>32503366
There goes the thread. It was nice while it lasted.

>>32503396
Shit, meant to reply to >>32503348 instead of >>32503366

>>32503376
>>32503401
>Ignoring that Unova probably has more exploration and side areas of the entire franchise
>ignoring the hardest crime boss
>ignoring that you can always travel like a route or two ahead of the "story", something that most other games don't allow
>ignoring B2/W2 that revisits the region without making you travel in a straight circle

The circle meme needs to die. Gen 6 was the casualization point

>>32503423
What? I said I didn't mean to reply to you. I agree, gen 6 was the downfall of the series.

I don't agree that Unova had the most exploration of any game, though. It had plenty, sure, but I feel like Sinnoh, Johto and Hoenn had more.

>>32503444
>>32503423
Does anyone even have a source on that "it was because of Platinum" thing? I see it thrown around a lot but never see any source.

>>32503451
There is no source, it's nonsense

>>32503451
Why are you replying to me? I never said it was because of Platinum. Unova isn't casualized, it's a perfectly good game. All I said is that it doesn't have the most exploration in the series.

>>32503451
There was an interview with masuda, I think, where he said that kids got lost in platinum so they streamlined the regions, I'm to lazy to search for it now because I don't remember if the context was for either BW or XY, but I may search for it later.

>>32503478
sorry, read too quick and thought you were also referring to it
>>32503499
I checked and all I could find was that XY interview where he mentions the Azure Flute.

>>32496027
This. I also like fishing for rare dragon pokémon in the pond. It makes it all the more special.

GSC were so well thought out.

>>32501923
>It was the first place I encountered Raikou roaming while playing Crystal version at night as a kid. It was one of those legendary moments in the history of the franchise that will stay with me forever.

I know that feel. I found Raikou just at the bottom of Route 45. It destroyed my red Gyarados before fucking off. I literally had no idea what it was. I knew nothing about the game when it was released, so didn't realise these were random encounter legendaries.

144 posts and not a single mention of Route 13 or 23 in unova? Those routes had it all for me in terms of music and stuff to do there.

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>>32503554
>>32503499
here, in an iwata ask no less.
https://www.pocketmonsters.net/content/Iwata_Asks_BW#New_Pokemon_World

>Also, one area needing improvement in the past was that some children had been unable to complete the games, so this time we wanted to make it so you could go rather straightforward as long as the overall adventures are concerned.

I'm pretty sure he name dropped platinum in another interview, but this is good enough.

>>32503293
but that's also the order of best games

>>32503723
it's commonly agreed that B2W2, Emerald, Platinum, and HGSS are the best games in the franchise and that you have shit taste if you don't like any of them

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>>32495839
>>32501104
>>32501118
>>32502160
Love all of these

>>32500873
This and the dive theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zro82OX6iv0

>>32503734
That is a correct statement

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I wish the event for this wasn't Japan only. All the Gen 3 event-only areas were always so cool and mysterious to me

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>>32503936
>YWN reach that island off to the right

SO MANY NEAT PLACES JUST OUT OF REACH IN HOENN HNNGH

>>32503650
>Masuda in charge of anything
He can't even make postgame correctly, why should he even be a director?

>>32501429
Fuck off

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>pic related had more life into it than all of gen 6

>>32504042
That aquariam had different Pokémon swimming through it at different times of the day

Pure kino

>>32503955
I remember using the map editor to carve out an opening over there. Got sick of it myself. Added mudkip and a couple Johto pokes to encounter in the tall grass.

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>>32503936
>all those hours trying to figure out what the secret of this area was
Shame it wasn't very interesting when I finally did find out.

>>32503232
>Hoenn after UBs invaded

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>>32503893
ORAS and ORAS demo ruined the Abandoned Ship music by putting it everywhere.

>>32501736
I never really got that impression. It was cool to find a new route, but that was pretty much it. I was mostly excited to get to the Safari Zone because I wanted Larvitar.

>>32504042
>>32504047
Don't forget about the music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9X6uXyylJE

My favorite Pokémon area, especially because it comes a bit before the climax of the game - it feels so serene.

>>32504263
same

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How has this place not been mentioned yet?

>>32505562
It's not a route dummy

>>32505570
b-but towers and ruins of alph were mentioned

>>32500873
I agree, but they fucking ruined it in ORAS with the clicking noise.

>>32505970
Bike theme had that too in ORAS iirc. I wonder why they added that? Doesn't seem to add anything.

>>32505978
I actually never noticed in the bike theme until now because it actually matches up with the beat. As far as why they added it, I have no idea.

I forget the number because it's been a while since I played it, but I liked the route in Sinnoh with the giant mud pits.

>>32502068
Pyre literally sounds hundreds of times better in ORAS

>>32502068
This is a perfect example of people shitposting for the sake of shitposting.

>>32501153
Unova actually have more streamlined routes than
Kalos. Also less optional areas in the main game.
The post game area were much better than the main game ones, which were mostly standard grassy routes with a straight path to the end.

>>32507773
>Unova actually have more streamlined routes than
>Kalos.
Kalos has the second most streamlined areas in general after Alola.
>Also less optional areas in the main game.
Only if you're going by Unova 1 and not Unova 2.

>>32503650

Well explains why all regions since BW are all so straight forwards.

I want another huge region with many forks like Sinnoh or Hoenn.

>>32507788
Sinnoh was the problem in the first place.

>>32507787

BW1 and it's route was a straight A to B game. Routes were designed to have a main path to the end with grass chunks between them. Kalos also had many, but I remember there being more routes mixed up than in Unova. The only routes I remember being more mixed up were the routes before and after Mistralton.

I also mean mainly the main game.

>>32500873
Black2/White2 Route 23

I like how it has a little bit of Rowan's theme in there.

>>32501238
This music hurts my brain tot his day its so sharp it get really annoying really fast.

>>32507813
Just about every route in Unova has some hidden area within it or some extra exploration that you don't see during the main story. For example, the rest of wellspring cave, route 17 off the coast of route 1, Mistralton Cave, Pinwheel Forest's outer area where Sawk and Throh can be found and Virizion's area, Lostlorn forest, Moor of Icirrus and so on and so forth. Unova is filled with areas like this.

Kalos on the other hand is exactly as you decribed, A to B. Just a main path with grass chuncks between them.
Only a handful of routes in the game actually diverge into new and unexplored areas and often they just lead to a dead end with an item. Basically the entire game is designed more like a tour rather than an adventure.

>I also mean mainly the main game.
Yes?
I think the only area that's blocked of completely during the main game is the remainder of the ruins where Volcarona is and challenger's cave.

>>32507763
>He doesn't like what I like, he must be posting ironically or something!!! Nobody can dislike what I like!

>>32507941
Yeah because it totally doesn't have anything to do with the fact that the ORAS version is nearly the same and features no techno elements.
And lets not forget about the obvious REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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technically not a route, but this place is so comfy. Especially at night with the Clefairy dancing

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This is a peculiar case of not being a route but still a big area, the light filtering through the trees and the level of greenery just hits that spot in my grassfag heart.
When I played my SS cart, I'd take my Meganium and just walk around the forest every now and then.
GCS's rendition of the music is my #1 favorite route song in the series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtUYVjOQGC0
>>32508250
10/10 taste, anon.

>>32500873
Gotta be the snow route theme from Sinnoh.

Regardless of how you feel about the route itself the music was fucking great.

>>32507773
You're crazy then. There are like a dozen side areas you're supposed to go off and explore.

People complaining about the Gen 5 games being streamlined clearly didn't even TRY to explore.

This has not been the case in any game since. Alola for example only has two side areas you can explore. TWO. Both of which are locked off until you've effectively cleared out the entire Island. Kalos wasn't much better.

>>32507912
Reminder that you can explore that fuckhuge desert and a few rooms of the castle ruins in Unova like 5 badges before you're "supposed to".

Compared to Alola's shitty Lost Forest desert that was locked off until you cleared the island.

Unova had TONS of areas that were optional exploration, if you were sticking to the main pathways, then you fucked up your own experience of the game.

Why the fuck would you just travel in that circle pathway just because that's where all the main routes are. Don't people TRY to explore?

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>>32508360
I didn't realize the HGSS version was more detailed than the XY version All those hills.

>>32508467
that's the only thing I like about the route

>>32510707
Sturdy simulator 2011

>>32510994
>>32510707
Sturdy aside, I think its a great location.

Unova did a good job of making its caves actually fun and not tedious to explore.

Except the Regi one.

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One Island in general is a cool location, but I really like Kindle Road and the spa inside it.

>>32502850

thats the first place i went to when i was able to use the walk through walls glitch

>>32503893

route 120 is objectively the best route.

My secret base was in that bush in the lower left corner. I enjoyed hanging out there fishing in the pond and watching the clouds in the reflection float by