Sage Sunday: Late Night Edition

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Most recent iteration of Route 13 (that I could find, Em and Swim never pin the good shit). It's not confirmed but it's a pretty good idea of what it's gonna look like, besides a couple different rocks moved around.

There is already a thread, use that one please.
>>32482016

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>>32485228

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Neat Craliber evo sequence.

>>32485216
I know you can't give dates, but how is bugtesting going? I'm excited for it all!!


>>32485227
As the OP of that thread, no. It's filled with shitposting. I tried deleting it but it said post was too old.

>>32485226
Needs more shallow water to be quiet honest. It like the dive spots though!

>>32485246
What's their name? And why do you guys keep trying the weird hair colors?

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Neat Pyroat evo sequence.

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Swim for some reason says this is wrong but option 1 out of these won. Could be wrong but he refused to give me the correct one so oh well.

>>32485255
The name of the Admins will all be decided together after they all have designed. They are based on the theme of treasure.

I don't know what you mean about weird hair colours though, no character in the game thus far has unnaturally coloured hair.

>>32485265
ah I see why now, it's fucking tiny. I'll work on finding a beeg one later

>>32485227
NO ,use this instead
>>32470941

This image is several months old and no longer reflects the state of the route in any way.

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Here's some (old) concept art for Ossia that got posted in Mapchat.

>>32485265
>>32485280

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>>32485265
>>32485280
>>32485287
I think this is a bit more recent

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>>32485253
>>32485258
mfw

>>32485265
>>32485280
Then post the new one.

>>32485267
>theme of treasure
Like what are some examples you guys have in mind so far?

>>32485285
Can the puzzle for Ossia Gym be like the fireheart puzzle from Fable?

>>32485292
Dank

>people complaining the old thread is filled with shitposting when this one is also filled with outdated shitposting
Like pottery

>>32485227
not using shitpost threads for sage sunday

>>32485246
thanks, you beat me to posting the better res version of this

>>32485255
Bugtesting is going fine. Will pass on the feedback. None of the admins have names yet, it was decided that they would be named after all of their designs were finalized.

>>32485292
you're not a dev so I can't confirm or deny if that is a newer version. I wouldn't trust it since I can't find it in mapchat, but maybe? Not sure, Swim wouldn't give me the "most updated" version and it's not in mapchat.

>>32485294
There's a whole list of potential names. I'll grab em in a sec.

Well that was a rough start to the thread. Who has questions?

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>>32485216
>>haha clover is better XD [dead clover thread redirect]
>"People laugh at clowns, not with them."
>Calling attention to the other game at all

>>32485294
https://pastebin.com/wkJCcz6T

Here's the list for Eronze admin, anyway. We either don't have a master list for all of them or there just straight up aren't any for Erion/Erace.

>>32485304
>>32485276
just poking fun at the inevitable. don't be such a debby downer

>>32485258
The blue light really looks bad against the orange and brown fire/rocks, but really cool otherwise.

Have you guys considered changing the light color to match one of the typings?

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>>32485304
>"People laugh at clowns, not with them."

>>32485317
I don't think that's been mentioned, will crosspost to main and tag the appropriate people doing them.

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>>32485321
shit wrong one

>>32485216
Two threads? Are you fucking serious? Not even Clover is this bad.

>>32485328
couldn't be helped unfortunately. don't make shitpost sage threads on sundays ;)

>>32485301
You going to do a proper name survey for that?

>>32485309
Yeah most of these aren't even treasure names, just the names of metals and ores and other fine rocks.

You guys didn't survey confirm the naming theme did you?

>>32485328
What are you talking about, Clover is a walking shitpost.

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>>32485327
wrong, this one

>>32485332
Yes, after Erace admin gets confirmed there will be a proper survey for the names. The naming theme has not been confirmed. There have been some opinion polls taken but I'm not even sure having a naming theme is confirmed. Could be wrong about that last part though.

>>32485339
REDACTION: I'm now being informed by the person in my earpiece that the naming convention is confirmed and it's treasure. Wew

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Earlier today we were doing shit about the Town Map because the old version is shit.
I suggested doing a little side bar with the extra space we have to show some info about the location highlighted (because the region is square while the screen is rectangular).
Then I made a little mockup of what it could look like and it was pretty popular. We haven't made any final decision on it so things are still subject to change.

>>32485339
>>32485351
Yeah those names aren't treasure. You shouldn't count them. Sorry sage.

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I've been working on minor alterations to the Erace Admin.

>>32485330
That wasn't a shitpost thread, just because one fag called it that way doesn't mean is true. Be careful next time, please.

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Reposting this just because Tops is a god and his concept art deserves to be habitually posted in every Sage Sunday forever.

>>32485370
Listen, I'm literally telling you this as the OP of that thread. Calm down. It's ok. I tried to delete my thread and that's fine.

And frankly, considering what you let slide on /vp/ this evening, having a second, improved Sage thread is a lot better than the underaged asshole I bet you didnt report.

>>32485370
Look if you're a janitor, maybe you should try reporting/deleting threads that have "bump" five times in a row in them. If you're an anon, consider posting questions about the game or shitposting about how bad Mangitogre is. That's typically all that ever happens anyway.

>>32485362
Won't the space be needed for the postgame islands?

Personally, i'd just have the mainland take up more of the screen and not have much of the ocean be visible at all if the islands aren't gonna be visible/you guys aren't gonna have them anymore.

Also, the aeshetic you are going for there with the mountains and jungle and desert looks sort of bad. I'd go a bit more minimalist.

>>32485521
postgame islands would be on a dedicated map if there's an infobox

is urobos still south of unova?

>>32485552
Well its not like any regions except the 2 you can literally walk between give many hints. We're just happy with 'far away from any other regions.'

>>32485317
>>32485323
Pretty sure people said that last sage sunday too if you go back and look

>>32485314
I am looking forward to playing Sage once it is at 2.0 really

>>32485981
Me too

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>>32485253
>chains

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>>32485216
>so anally aggravated over Clover starting after and then finishing before Sage that you have to keep bringing up how shit Clover to validate yourself

>>32486580

Steel type, bruh.

>>32485368
Love how he looks

>>32485317

Bullshit like this is the reason why Sage still isn't finished

Nobody cares if the light is blue instead of red. Stop asking retarded shit like this unless you want the game to come out in 2030.

>>32486636
>Nobody cares if the light is blue instead of red.

Clearly people do considering that person mentioned it this thread, people mentioned it last thread, and I know some of the devs mentioned it as well.

Just because you don't give a fuck doesn't mean other people don't

>>32486663
>>32486636
Tell you what, there's a good solution here.
If you have some stupid little tweak that nobody but you cares about and pokes at your autism, then you can be the one to fix it. The rest of us have to focus on getting something playable right now. Otherwise, those kinds of tweaks are final polish tier, if they get included at all.

>>32486702
Nobody demanded it be done for 2.0 mang

>>32486702
Gee, if your concern was getting it playable, maybe you guys shouldn't have spent time on a totally unnecessary extra neat evolution animation when you already have the default one that was the first two demos?

Don't bitch and moan about it being an extra and unnecessary now that people have feedback and want you to change something about it when you were the ones who decided to spend time on the unnecessary thing to begin with.

>>32486723
This the waste more time on usless animation just make regular ones , but i have to admit they look good tho

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>>32485216
>Where's fairy type?
>>Not in the game, never will be, stop asking.
About that, outside of the fairy type will there be any of the improvements of the gen 6/7?
For old moves, mechanics, etc..

Will the game really still need that shit system that are the HMs...? Keeping it the way it is would really be a big downside for the game.

>>32486823
Yeah why we still have hms on Sage?

>>32486839
Because there was a survey about it and a massive shitstorm.

HM tools exist.

>>32486636
New evo transitions are neither a priority or a bottleneck. They aren't holding anything up time wise and take little to no effort. They also aren't preventing 2.0 from being released. Calm down buckaroo.

>>32486823
Game mechanics aren't being updated for any gen past gen 5. We have HM tools, the location or point in the game for which those can be acquired isn't confirmed.

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I wish that Florresum design was this one not a generic hummingbird

>>32485368
Original looks the best, by far.

>>32485226
Looks good, any more new routes?

>>32487084
Nothing worth posting as of now, but there have been some rough sketches of the Route 12/15/16 intersection. New content for future Sage Sundays.

>>32487249
SAHEL WHEN

today is also Emily's birthday so please wish her a happy birthday by responding to this post with "Sage is dead" thanks

>>32487393
Cull bugwaifu

>>32485216

>being unironically salty over Clover

This is what shitposters want, you know that right?

I'll readily admit that Sage is in a whole another league, but that doesn't make Clover any worse in its ascended shitpost form.

Also, you have to admit that some of the non-memey designs are genuinely good, Crystaking and Batterex come to mind.

>>32486895
You're right, our bad.
Let's redo the design from scratch, 5 years into development.

>>32485253
>>32485258

These look absolutely amazing. Im curious if you'd ever consider releasing these as an asset later on? Love to talk to you about it on discord or something if you have one.

>>32488280
All Sage assets will be public upon full release.

>>32488584
That's awesome to hear! I know that we on the Epsilon team would love to have them down the line :)

>>32485390
that's fucking beautiful

>>32488280
>on discord or something if you have one
Literally read the OP.

>>32485253
The chains look way too flat at the edges of the animation. Something needs to be done to stop the illusion of 3D links from breaking there.

>>32485292
>that swamp
Fucking aces.

>>32487800
I am not saying it design looks bad just generic

>>32489822
You are totally right i missed that line, sorry about that! ^^"

>>32489837
I think it's still a WIP in progress.

>>32490624
>work in progress in progress
The swamp propper isn't shown i don't think.

Will game be done this year?

>>32490777
Why would their be a swamp in a steel-type evolution?

>>32490791
It took two years to go from one gym to three gyms. We want the usual eight gyms total. At this rate, we'll be done in 2022.

Of course, there's a lot of stuff getting things working in the earlier part of the game that are now done and won't need to be addressed again, but then there's also a lot more plot in the latter part of the game.

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>people still have hope
if shitposting cesspools like Clover can finish before Sage, my hopes are down the drain. I like Clover however

>>32490881
Clover has low bar for achievement

>>32490881
>a shitty meme game came out before a game that people actually spend a fuck ton of time polishing and trying to get right

rlly makes u thonk

>32490949
>saying that when sage has no fairy type and devs are too lazy/whatever to implement

Why would I play this shitty game over clover? Legit question

>>32491004
>shitty game
>worse than Clover
Go back to shitposting in your general you underage loser

>>32491013
Ouch, I guess I hit a nerve

>>32490809
Quoted wrong anon

>>32491004
If you find sage shit, i can telk you right now that you won't find any quality in clover

>>32491070
Not him but although I enjoy both, I can say sage is inferior to clover
>all these time to release things
At least we can hope it's worth it?
>not a romhack
Can't play it on phones
>no fairy type when clover implemented it
Why?

>>32491164
>not a ronhack
Cant be helped with all the custom shit we're adding
>no fairy type
Why would we try and ruin our game by adding that shit?

Okay does anyone have any real questions or is this just going to be 12 year old clover "devs" spamming the thread because I need to know if I can close this tab or not

>>32491314
What's the status on post game stuff? I remember taking surveys where we voted on some stuff for it, so it should be "official", right?

Are you all still gonna do it or are you guys giving up on it?

>>32491314
I have a question.
Why do you enjoy partaking in recreational feces consumption? I'm a big fan btw.

>>32491341
Everyone generally agrees that lots of post-game content is important. Among the ideas are post-game plot related events (Xochi and Xotec, as well as capturing the Spirits and Golems), post game islands, post game Urobos areas, HM items, various post game battle facilities, etc.

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>>32491218

>>32491360
I meant specifically the island chain and volcano we voted on and battle frontier located there.

>>32491400
Specifically yes, that as far as I know is the plan. Development on that area isn't really in the works as of now though, progress is done procedural through the route the player will likely take to maintain continuity.

>>32491406
Would you guys release the "final" game without a postgame, and then work on postgame in another release after that, or would you wait for the postgame to be done before releasing any sort of final build?

>>32491415
That one is completely up in the air. Some people are in the "don't release a build until full game" camp, some people are in the "release various demos at various stages" camp, and some people are in the "release main game and then release a post-game build afterwards" camp. Nothing has been decided but I think the last count was the first camp had majority.

>>32485368
longer legs long sleeves

>>32491426
I'd err on the first one myself too, just to minimize risk of the GF truck

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>>32491372
>>32491218

>>32491314
What's the name of the evil team and their goals?

>>32491476
Yeah, that's the general justification for it. Personally, I'm in favor of releasing a couple demos along the way to make sure we're maintaining quality, but that's only because I have different opinions about what's going to provoke daddy Nintendo to spank us.

>>32491504
Team Aurum. Different important members have different goals, but the one unified goal is to obtain the keys to the hidden Golden City and plunder treasure/awaken Quetzar (depending on the person). http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Team_Aurum Here's a link for more info but it's very spoilery, so only read it if you don't care about knowing how the plot goes.

did you niggers ever figure out what the fuck the dragon boneyard will be for

>>32491604
Post-game contentarino probably.

>>32491604
Nothing after the E4 is figured out yet.

Wait a second, is the hobo dojo gone?
This is the worst sage news I've heard since the train graveyard was turned into a typical dump

>>32491628
hobo dojo is not gone, just not implemented for 2.0 as it will probably be something you return to Dronia for. That's not confirmed I don't think, but it does give you a reason to come back.

>>32491628
not in 2.0.
will likely still exist, although "hobo dojo" is mechanically vague so we'll have to figure that out

>>32491628
The Dronia Sewers are currently locked by Strength (gotta move that manhole SOMEHOW), so we'll cross that bridge when we get there. You can never rule out having some bums in a culvert.

>>32491651
this, as far as I know, isn't confirmed and is just the placeholder method until we get to it. Don't assume that it is definitely strength locked.

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Here's a pic submitted for Erace admin minor changes. Longer coat.

Hey, random lurker who has been following these threads. I was looking at the wiki and noticed that the electric donkey fakemon, despite being based on lucha libre wrestlers, doesn't actually learn submission, which in Japanese, is named after a lucha libre move.

Is that an oversight or what?

>>32491931
Did you know that Hawlucha doesn't learn submission?

>>32491848
I like it, but I feel like the shorter coat looked much better. The little flare outwards it did was a nice look.

>>32486895
That would be cool. Make it a regional variant in Sage 2 :^)

>>32485253
>Literally just a revolver and a shrimp.
This shit looks terrible.
Go ahead and list Remoraid. I dare ya. I double dare you, motherfucker.
>>32485226
As usual, your maps are great

>>32485332
At least Clover is a finished shitpost, unlike this failed abortion.

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>>32492742
It's evolution was designed first and the prevo was designed around it and it shows by how much better the evo is

>>32486628
>he

>>32492752
>LITERALLY A SHRIMP WITH A REVOLVER BARREL AROUND ITS NECK.
The concept of a Pistol Shrimp pokemon could have been done better than this shit. Instead of just a literal Pistol Shrimp.
And yeah yeah I know
>Five years in development man.
It shows too you faggot.

>>32492837
show us on the doll where the fangame touched you

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>>32492880
Yeah, that's what I thought.

>>32491967
feedback noted

>>32492742
thanks, I like our maps too

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>>32491967
Yeah, it ought to flare a bit. Here's another persons's look at the coat length.

Can I ask a serious question?

Cloverfags, why do you shitpost in Sage threads? I want serious answers here. Because I just dont get it.

>>32496870
As more of a cloverfag than sage, we don't. All the shitposting is made by falseflaggers.

>>32485253
the chain links could have more highlights in the center of the animation to help them appear less flat.

>>32496913
>All the shitposting is made by falseflaggers.
or even the devs

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>>32496913
>>32496933
pic related

>>32496918
hey AWC. Feedback noted. Miss you bud

>>32491426
>some
you're the only one who wants more demos smokey

>>32496913
>

>>32498579
I want more demos. Go eat some hepatitis A ass.

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Gorgeous maps, love the Erace admin, that type-based evo animation is awesome. I think seeing what type the evo is just before seeing the mon will get people playing blind very hype.
Chains for steel is really cool and the effects are all gorgeous, so I'm curious what you've got for the weirder types like psychic. Are there any more evolution gifs?

>>32485253
Maybe it's just the lack of music, but I feel like the beam of light isn't very flashy. Just having it shake or pulse a bit could be a notable improvement.

>>32487800
Yes, let's.

Literally what's stopping us? Better designs have been axed.

May I ask if there are any plans of localizing the game once finished? I'm really interested in your work and I want to share with friends, but they don't understand english

>>32499480
There's no plans from the devs to translate it themselves but IIRC a few people outside of core dev team have offered to and have at least made localizations of the dex

>>32499461
The fact these autests cant go against a survey, and even the thought of changing something simple like the type of a design triggers enough autism to fill a psychiatric ward.

>>32499492
It's hard to translate? It is made with RPGMaker right?

>>32499480
There are already playthroughs of the demo on youtube in several languages, I would be shocked if different people didn't end up releasing translations themselves eventually.
At the very least there will be playthroughs in several languages.

>>32499492
We've had several people offer but they've all left within the week. We do have a mildly multilingual team, so you could expect translations eventually, but it's at their discretion and translating is fairly tedious work.

Are there animations for obtaining the badges yet?

>>32499517
I'd rather you guys work on polishing dialog or dex entries or various sprites after release then translations desu

>>32499527
>dex entries or various sprites
>implying they wont be perfect

>>32499527
Don't worry that's not even remotely a priority.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqwP6uuYOWo

Are you guys going to heed the advice given here?

The next demo is going to be the final one right? How will it be released? Will you just be dropping a link here or will it also be posted to the wiki? Have you guys considered not putting it on the wiki and only updating the version info and feedback/bug reports with no link present?

>>32499690
majora please

>>32499718
That wasn't me you dummy

>>32485246
Best admin. Top design is best, I like the triple eyes but putting on the Aurum logo is pretty rad too. Using the different expressions would be really cool too, but probably wouldn't even be that noticeable on the tiny overworld sprites.

>>32485253
>>32485258
This is completely unnecessary but still cool. Didn't know this was a thing you guys were doing. Might be cool to suddenly see a new element being added when a pokemon gains a second type.

>>32485285
Top comfy, but when designing a town I think it's advisable to always put the Pokemon Center close to the entrance, since that's usually the first stop for trainers.

>>32485216
Are you guys willing to re-brand like Mother 4 did in case shit hits the fan? I'd hate to see this just die before being finished.

>>32499690
We're probably going ghost mode after 2.0

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>>32499430
The evolution animation is still very much a work in progress. We haven't even got the background layer in the gifs posted here, and there's currently an explodey bit in concept. Here's a mockup with two psychic possibilities though.

Also includes a sneak peak of the background stuff.

>>32499690
>>32500635
After 2.0, there will be a moratorium on hype, and no further public builds until completion. If 2.0 triggers a C&D, we'll definitely shut down the current publicly visible stuff. Otherwise, we'll back away from it a bit and there definitely won't be an effort made to engage normies, but we're all on /vp/ pretty regularly anyway so threads like this will probably still happen. A C&D won't stop development, and at most will slow it a bit while we migrate the wiki to a non-public format, but that's the only thing I can think of that would be impacted. The only other downside is a lack of new contributors, but most of the group has been around since like 2013 (and most new contributors that actually stick and do stuff around are actually returning contributors of similar pedigree) so that won't change much either.

>>32501759
psychic a>b

and the fighting one is ridiculous. it should just be wrappings or trophies or weights or something.

>>32501864
>a moratorium on hype
How would you even enforce that?

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>>32502414
Assuming it doesn't end up looking like toilet paper, wrappings could be really good.

>>32501759
Yeah that looks a lot better with the background and exploding beams, the bug one is really clever, I hadn't thought of silk.
For some reason these evo animations are my favorite addition in awhile.
>still very much a work in progress
So it wont be in 2.0?

>>32502521
Realistically? If someone breaks the moratorium, we have a shitstorm about whether the action constitutes a breach and whether the moratorium was ever valid in the first place, in which everyone but the person responsible agrees with each other, and in which nothing is conclusively resolved and so once everyone is all dramaed out, we remain with the status quo.

>>32501864
Do you think the release of 2.0 will draw in new team members?

>>32503663
It will probably bring more than a hundred people who say they want to participate, of whom one or two might actually stick around and do stuff.

>>32502672
It should be in 2.0, if not it'll probably be in 2.1 or 2.2 along with any bugfixes. But considering we've just discovered some tedious bugs with rock smash and cut and there's plenty of other bugs and other this and that, and the coding is historically a bigger bottleneck than anything else since we have few coders, I think it's doable to get it out by 2.0.

>>32503729
What's going on with rock smash and cut?

>>32505399
They didn't work from the menu. Fixing it takes pasting the fixed event code to every single smashable rock and every single cutable tree in the game, and that requires finding them all again. It's half done now, but there could well be ore of these tedious bugs still lurking. And there's some feature (non-bug) stuff still to implement as well.

>>32505456
Could you hypothetically just replace all of the rocks and trees with a rock and tree that automatically has the fixed event code built in?

>>32505469
Maybe that's how it was done, I don't know. Doesn't change the tedium and the difficulty of finding them all.

Dont really have anything to ask just that the game looks awesome and keep up the work bros.

I haven't been around in like 3 months, anything cool from recent sage sundays?

>>32501759
I love the fighting one.

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>>32485216
Old contributor here, been out of the loop for a long time. I have a lot of free time over the next few weeks, so I thought I'd make some maps for you guys. Are you guys still using the same dropbox?

>>32508423
Message 'empty#9724' on discord.

>>32508323
>Sage Sunday
>bumping on a Thursday
This thread has already lived long past its time.

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How can I help contribute to this project? I have a digital tablet I can use to paint concept art and have dabbled in pixel art before, dunno if those types of things need help though.

>>32509125
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>>32509125
bump