ITT we make ButtefrEEEE less shit

>>32468783
Butterfree has compound eyes + sleep powder as a niche.

With more speed, it could become more reliable at statusing the opponent and quiverdancing.
Hurricane would be out of flavour but also good.

In addition, seeing as it already gets Drea Eater, Nightmare would be funny for gimmicks.

>>32468783
>change its HA to simple
How good is it now?

>>32468783
Mega Butterfree, basically a min-maxed specially defensive counterpart of Mega Beedrill

Bug/Psychic

60 HP
15 Attack (-30)
80 Defense (+30)
100 Sp. Attack (+10)
180 Sp. Defense (+100)
60 Speed (-10)

Gets magic guard as ability.
Now learns calm mind or cosmic power.

The shit typing and 60 HP shouldn't make it too obnoxious of a wall.

>>32468816
Thanks, these are interesting, seems like a good idea to run infestation, does neat damage and if used quick enough can guarantee they don't switch for grass, then Quiver Dance while they asleep, but there is the problem of the enemy waking up and doing damage, the most sensible thing to do would be to run Dream Eater, and if a grass one pops up trade an infestation for Butterfree

>>32468783
mega butter with more speed and sp. attack, now it is bug/psychic
>Attack 30 (-15)
>Defense 80 (+30)
>Sp. Attack 110 (+20)
>Sp. Defense 80 (0)
>Speed 125 (+55)
Moveset
>Sleep power
>Dream eater
>Quiver dance
>Bug Buzz (or maybe giving it pollen puff)
not great bulk and weak against priority moves but it'd be annoying af

>>32469044
powder*
or changing dream eater for psychic and sleep powder with substitute if the sleep set gets too common, too bad gf will keep the butter forgotten

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The problem with Butterfree is Vivillon does everything it can do but better.

Butterfree needs either a new niche, or remove Vivillon.