How would you make it OU?

>>32455283
Give him Sturdy

>>32455283
Wonder guard is also magic guard.

>>32455303
>sandstorm
>plebbes
>spikes
>toxic
>burn
>hail
>confusion
No

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>>32455306
This + these stats

>>32455283
Many of us use this fucker in OU.

It's a great wincon.

>>32455283
Wonder Guard now works as a shield. So it prevents damage by all sources (including passive damage), but can be shut down by super effective moves. Once it's down, Shedinja can be damaged by everything. The shield can't be recharged by switching out.
Def and SpD stat is now 1, and 73 points get added to its speed, for a new value of 113. SpA becomes 5, and its attack is now 130.
New Peculiar move
Soul Draining [Ghost][Physical]
80 BP 100% Acc 5-8PP
If this move K-Os the target, Wonder Guard's shield is actived once again. Makes Contact.

>change Wonder Guard to give immunity to entry hazards and weather
>buff its BST by at least 200, all into Atk and Spe, maybe SpA
>give it more offensive moves and U-Turn

I'm thinking a spread like

HP: 1 (+0)
Atk: 160 (+70)
Def: 45 (+0)
SpA: 110 (+80)
SpD: 30 (+0)
Spe: 90 (+50)

>>32455335
Congrats it's not uber

>>32455303
You didn't think that through faggot

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>>32455283
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE OU LET IT BE A SILLY GIMMICK YOU AUTIST

>>32455335
So almost like Mimikyu's disguise, but only super effective moves can disable it
Interesting

>>32455283

Endeavor.

>Before: 1/90/45/30/30/40
>After: 1/124/1/20/1/99
>Now learns Endeavor
I tried.

>>32455283
>>32455303
Give it a choice of Wonder Guard, Magic Guard, and Sturdy.

Alternatively, give it 3 HP, and nothing can deal more than 1 damage to it (Except fixed damage moves from Mold Breaker Mons)

>>32455331
>>32455772
This. Shedinja is fine as is. It isn't banned to OU, but it is still a fine Pokemon there. Just having Shedinja on your team mindfucks your opponent, and makes them play like shit. It makes them overly obsessive about keeping hazards out, makes them cautious with their Shedinja counters, and if hazards are down, it can hardcounter 70% of all setup sweepers, which makes opponents cautious about setting up.

Shedinja can literally win you matches while never never seeing the field.

isn't it on every tier?

>>32456507
Yes. It's viability fluctuates wildly by tier as well. Ubers it's almost not a gimmick choice anymore, since it shuts down so much, and hazards are rare.
To wit, Xerneas (Who it also generally indirectly cripples since it wastes Power Herb), Kyogre, many Mewtwo, most Mega-Moms, many Palkia and Dialga, some Genesect, and a handful of others are usually hardwalled by Shedinja.
It also beats Deoxys, 100% of the time if has a Sash, many Greninja, can at least cripple, but sometimes 1v1 Aegislash if played well, can beat lunaala if Shadow Shield is broken, and a few other surprising match-ups go well for Sheddy.
Plus, it works wonders as a pivot (Lugia's Ice Beam will fuck your Zekrom, so switch to Shedinja to eat the beam, then switch to Zekrom to catch the Toxic), and as >>32456504 mentioned, as a tool for making people not risk their 1 pokemon that can actually hit it, force them to switch to their thing that can threaten it and making them predictable, or if they catch you with your pants down with P-Don, they spend the turn setting rocks instead of setting up and sweeping you like they should.

>>32455283
+1 in HP

>>32455283
just give this one hp more...omg...what a bunch of autist's

>>32458022
>>32458030
Shedinja is hardcoded to always have 1 HP. Base 1 HP does in fact give you more than 1 HP. Though having 2 HP would help it tremendously, since it doesn't insta die to passive damage anymore.

>>32458051

holy kek

Give it a signature more that negates passive damage for 5 turns.

Nerf everything in OU until it's worse than Shedjnja or equal to Shedjnja.

>>32458112

let's remove super effective moves

>>32458148
No more super effective moves, no more hazards, and no more status conditions.

>>32458167

YES!

>gets banned from ubers

>>32458173
>Shedinja becomes the new Kingdra of AG
Beautiful

>>32458177

gets own range

>OP

adds scarfed ditto

>>32455283

it probably wouldn't put him in OU, but I think Shedinja should at least be immune to the status conditions that aren't supereffective types

ie, make him immune to hail, poison and leech seed, but not burns and stealth rocks

it just makes no sense that Shedinja can take an ice beam to the face and get killed by a tiny chip of a hailstone

>>32455283
Sturdy, Endeavor, Quick atttack

>>32455283
I wish it didn't waste stats on resistances. Its abysmal attack makes it difficult to use even when WG pays off

I've been playing him in OU, but I'm not sure what kind of team works best, I've kind of just been fucking around.

I'm most interested in replacing Mandibuzz, I wish Toxapex could learn Rapid Spin so I could put a cleric or something there though.

Any advice is appreciated/ or I'd also like to know what you guys are doing with Shedinja in OU if it's something else.

Sableye-Mega @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 116 Def / 144 SpD
Calm Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Fake Out
- Knock Off

Toxapex @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Toxic Spikes
- Recover
- Haze

Mandibuzz @ Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Defog
- Foul Play
- Whirlwind
- Roost

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Toxic
- Protect

Dugtrio @ Focus Sash
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Reversal
- Stone Edge
- Screech

Shedinja @ Focus Sash
Ability: Wonder Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 156 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Baton Pass
- Will-O-Wisp
- Shadow Sneak
- Protect

>>32459782
kys stallfag

>>32460100
I don't understand all the hate that stall gets around here.

>>32455327

>236 BST

It would be funny if it was any other pokemon.

>>32460138
People never carry wallbreakers.

Stall is such a piece if shit no one actually prepares for it in team building considering there is shit like scarf lele, megagross and the occasional zard X or Koko, the moment you face one it can blows up in your face.

This is why people hate stall.

>>32460138
I don't play competitive but I knew that you were a stallfag because of your copy pasted team. I think people hate stall because it is one broken team so seeing it over and over is tiresome. It's the same reason people hate things like Landerous and Lele.

Maybe the solution to stall is more stall so it can be a varied playstyle instead of a boring clone for people with more time than skill and no imagination.

>>32460185
The current issue that's being brought up in current Smogon threads is that these days theres like 6 different types of stall, and that stall is becoming too strong because even when you bring counters to certain variants, they're beaten by other variants of stall.

Stall being a single team is a delusion at best.

>>32458649
it has shadow sneak

>>32460219
Yep, from Zapdos to shedninja and Dugtrio+sableye stall is actually quite diverse on their cores, then there is protect Suicune.

I think that the only thing that is consistent enough vs stall is z raindance Manaphy against non shedninja teams and Hoopa-U, CB Rhyperior works its magic against all forms of stall that don't use protect Suicune.

>>32460185
how common are bronzong and mandibuzz?

genuinely asking, I don't know

this is a shedinja thread, and you kind of need m-sableye and dugtrio to make him work so that goes without saying

>>32456476
>Ability 1: Wonder Guard
>Ability 2: Magic Guard
>Hidden Ability: Sturdy

That would totally work, actually.