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Unpopular Opinion bread I dont think every pokemon has to be

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Unpopular Opinion bread

I dont think every pokemon has to be good in competitive, even as someone who enjoys competitive. I'm completely fine with a pokemon having a gimmick or handicap and i'm fine with pokemon that are only ~viable~ in certain situations or only good in game. once became okay with this i enjoyed Pokemon a lot more.

i really enjoy the direction the anime went in. I think it's funny and enjoyable and cute and was never a fan of le badass ash with le gf and thought the animation for xy was average at best and i'm glad the anime has something unique and special again instead of being just like every other soulless otaku escapism fantasy

Hau never had any romantic feelings for Lillie and Lilie didn't have any romantic feelings for protag. the "Hau got cucked by Chad Kantocock" meme is unfunny and ruins a great character

speaking of Hau, anyone who gets triggered over losing le badass asshole rival and how much the games "hold your hand" because Hau heals your pokemon should grow up and realize they're playing a game for children and that the games have to do that so they're not only going to make money off the people who've been playing them for years and anyone can pick them up
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Not a fan of out of pokeball/following/shouldermon. If the following feature ever does return--and I hope it does not--I would prefer it to be optional.

Gen 3 nearly made me quit the series. Gen 4 brought me back.

I'm not a genwunner by any means but I did not enjoyed a single villainous team after Team Rocket until Aether and Skull.

SM were good games but felt somewhat incomplete. i.e. the golf course, no real trial for Mina, Ryuki, etc.

I like most objectmon.

I like Cynthia and Looker and enjoy their cameos in games outside the gen they were introduced. In fact, I wouldn't mind spin off games that featured one or both of them.

I dont give a shit about competitive battling. I use copy/paste OU sets to wreck my casual friends when we do battle.

I liked the majority of cross gen evos and wouldnt mind more. Or at least new branches off existing lines. I hope each new Gen introduces new regional formes too. Hell,
add new Megas in remakes going forward so we have something to get hype about.


Speaking of which, I have no strong feelings either way about mega evolution.

>>32454438
>i really enjoy the direction the anime went in. I think it's funny and enjoyable and cute and was never a fan of le badass ash with le gf and thought the animation for xy was average at best and i'm glad the anime has something unique and special again instead of being just like every other soulless otaku escapism fantasy
I haven't watched much of the anime since DPPt but I actually enjoy the Slice of Life aspect of the SM anime currently.
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Could not agree more, I love everything said here
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SM's story and characters are nice, but the gameplay and content are fucking lackluster even compared to Gen VI.
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I really liked Megas, despite some of them being absurd, I really think they spiced up the game.

I don't feel like Stall is AS cancer as people make it out to be on Smogon.

I feel like Smogon's philosophy is extremely flawed and volatile despite their good intentions and ideas.

I first really liked the Tapus but now they're starting to piss me off for being so omnipresent. Not really an opinion, but I had to say that to someone.
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>>32454438
Over time, SM actually made me appreciate ORAS more, and I hated it.

Now, my opinion is that ORAS is tecnically a better game, I just like SM more because it has more personality.


The first season of the BW anime is the best section the anime has ever had.

I like HGSS' music, and Gen V's overworld aesthetics.

The 3D in Gens 6 and 7 dont mean much to me since the regions have been in 3D since Gen 4 and Johto and Unova's 3D look better than the ones in both Gen 6 games
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>>32454482
agree with everything except the first two desu
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I like Goodra, Lanturn and Gourgeist (among others I can't remember from the top of my head) as much or even more than their preevolutions and I don't think they ruined their respective lines at all.

I never understood the appeal of the whole balltism thing.

I liked gens 6 and 7 and so far I think I have liked every single generation.

I think toxic should be given to fast, stealthy or ninja-like mons only, and not to everything like it currently is.

I like all objectmon and gimmickmon. Speaking of gimmickmon, I don't mind that most of them are useless in competitive but I do wish they got more love. I tried using delibird in-game and the poor thing just couldn't keep up.

I like the therian form of the genies. The incarnate forms have grown on me but still dislike them for the most part.

I think I like every single pokemon except hippopotas (which doesn't matter much since hippowdon is clean).

I don't think pokemon designs are getting worse, but I do think they're putting way more thought into some designs to the point it seems they're just trying too hard.
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Permanent Perfect Zygarde with Aura Break should be a thing
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SM are flawed but fundamentally good games and are far from irredeemable shit
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Gen 2 and the remakes are my least favorite games.
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Narratives are horseshit and have absolutely no place in main Pokémon games even if they are good, which for the record none have been so far. I wish all the games were like Gen 1 and 2 in that regard.
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Almost all Gen 7 designs are awful and I can't really understand how it's possible for people to like them.
The UBs are the only ones that really work, but only because they are supposed to be weird
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>>32454482
>Anime
I agree actually, I think it's a nice direction to be more character driven for more than just Ash aiming to beat the league. The series showed potential for this for quite some time, so I'm glad they have something different to build on while still having canon characters with their own thing.
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people who misuse spoiler tags are retards.
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ORAS is the best remake to date, I don't give a single fuck about the lack of a Battle Frontier. And the Delta Episode/Zinnia were a welcome addition.
Gen 4 was hot garbage and I can only hope they skip a remake of it or make it as good or better than ORAS
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>>32454880
In addition, the only thing I hate about a lack of a Battle Frontier is the lack of Frontier Brain Porn[/spoilet] that we could've had, but Anabel showing up in Sun and Moon made me hella gitty since she was my first waifu
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>>32454438
More Pokemon is always better

I want Ritchie to return

I don't think stars is happening at least not on the Switch before gen VIII.

I dislike Special because even though I only read up to the beginning of the yellow arc. I think it had some of the same flaws as the mainline anime plus I didn't like it's world building choices like canon levels.

Plus I don't like how the entire premise is focusing on the villianous teams over everything else. I like trainers battling for sport. I like Colleseum but I wish at least one game would do the opposite as in scrap the evil team and focus all the plot on making compelling rivals.
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Sun and Moon were really good. Had their flaws, but most of the flaws didn't actually bother me while playing because I think the games have enough personality to get by. Also almost all the new Pokemon are at least interesting, and it's got a pretty good regional dex minus the Kanto pandering and the distribution of some rarer mons. The ending was way too long though, did we really need resolution for literally every character in the game?

I don't care for Gen 3's starters that much. I love Sceptile and kind of like Swampert, but hate Blaziken.

I'm not that fond of HGSS either. Felt like they added all this fancy shit, but didn't fix the game's actual issues. For all the issues people have with ORAS, at least the villains actually differ personality wise and at least the map helps with going through the water areas.

Litten's whole evolution line are the first Fire type starters I've loved in years, like perhaps even since Typhlosion.

Generation 1 Pokemon have gotten boring over the years. They're often vanilla to use except for the stuff with the crazy movepools like the Nidos, and the fact that so many of them are in nearly every game makes them less and less fresh each time, even with Alola forms in the mix. This hasn't happened to the other generations.
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>>32454623
People hate Lanturn?
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>>32454438
There are very few pokemon that I actually dislike.
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I believe Ballio was a rejected concept from Ohmura's desk.
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>>32454623
>I never understood the appeal of the whole balltism thing.
You will never unless you start breeding. A lot. At which point you'll want every single property of your pokemon to be perfect, since you're doing all the effort to breed, might as well, right?
Daily reminder that hatch locationism is a thing.
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>>32455333
Yea. there's a lot of people who say it ruined Chinchou's design. I personally love it
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>>32455333
Apparently a lot of people think it ruined chinchou's thing or that goodra ruined goomy and sliggoo's thing.

I like all these mons for different design elements so I wouldn't know.

>>32455542
Hmm well I didn't think about it from the perfectionism point of view.
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>>32454880
>>32454892
Holy fuck, I thought I was the only one
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>>32454438
shit thread OP, blacktext is obnoxious
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>>32454482
>>SM were good games but felt somewhat incomplete. i.e. the golf course, no real trial for Mina, Ryuki, etc.
that one isn't really an unpopular opinion.
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Pokken is a really dumb name
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I like the elemental monkeys, I think they're fine and do not deserve the shit the fan base gives them.
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Objectmons are consistently some of the coolest designs in the series except Klink, who's a complete waste of potential.

I really enjoyed Sun and Moon in spite of their obvious flaws. Not my favorite games in the series, but definitely a breath of fresh air after XY, and in general.

There isn't a single starter I truly dislike, and people who STILL engage in starterwars, or generally shit on anybody who doesn't share their opinions, need to grow up and stop making this board even worse than it already is.

And since these are all positive opinions, here's a negative one. Wally's battle theme in ORAS is absolute garbage, and everything about both his fight and that music is completely unfitting for him. Sure, he finally got gud as a trainer, but he's still a frail and sickly little wimp. He didn't need a randomly climactic stage and a godawful 40-second loop of a terrible rock guitar midi going full ham.
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Incineroar redeemed the litten line. Litten was ass, torracat was acceptable, and incineroar is flawed but fun. I get why people hate it, but I like how it literally "hits below the belt."
All the 3rd starters of the Alolan starters are good. Not fantastic, but good.
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>retcon regional forms with new baby pokemon that can evolve into either form based on stats and/or happiness similar to Tyrogue and the Hitmons
>make more branching pokemon evolution paths based on stats/gender for baby and middle stage pokemon like Kirlia, Combee, and Salandit did
>possibly retcon megas this same way, making megas occur as variants of regular evolutions, give Mewtwo the Deoxys treatment with a strengthening laboratory experiment or something
>acknowledge low happiness besides Frustration damage by making it trigger alternative evos. Frustration is the only mechanic that uses it and it could be an alternative to every single happiness evo. Doesn't even have to be a new species; it could go Pichu-> Electric punk Pikachu with Prankster and dark type moves-> Dark/Electric biker looking Raichu or split evos like Happiny-> Chansey-> Blissey or a Ghost/Normal Saddeny or Fighting/Normal Angery depending on how high its happiness is once it hits level 30. They could even make more happiness evolutions for pokemon that already exist
>since the autist's wet dream that is amie/refresh doesn't seem to be going anywhere thanks to Sylveon, make more affection evolutions

The legwork has already been done for the most part. Excluding new pokemon, they could get by with slight variations and color swaps for the happiness mechanics. Hopefully I didn't fuck up the spoiler tags
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>>32454438
I think your post would actually be nice, if it was just the first and forth points. Third and second are bad opinions, and you should feel bad for having those opinions.
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>>32454438
I don't think every type needs a special variation of a move (Like Brave Bird is for double-edge) and not every type needs a balance of Physical and Special moves. Doing so would ruin one of the design elements of typings, which is to teach specialization, themes, and pros/cons of the type.
Grass is meant to be about utility.
Ice is meant to be the harsh coldness of winter.
Fighting is about martial arts.
Giving Psychic a bunch of Physical moves or giving Steel better attacking moves and recovery would contradict teaching players about roles.
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I really like BW and although I recognize it is very, very flawed it is my favorite of the anime, mainly because I like Iris and Axew a lot.
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Alolan forms being Kanto only was perfectly fine. Kanto pandering in general is fine. Kanto games have been overall the worst in the series.

SM are tied with BW2 as the best games in series. Their flaws are mostly non-flaws. The biggest real flaws it had were non-skipable cutscenes and encounter rates. The cutscenes are great, even on second playthrough, but adding an option to skip would've made it all better. As for encounter rates, fuck Wingull and Pelipper.

Graphics are one thing that has just gotten better with time. The 2.5D of Gen 5 was the best of its time, the chibi models of Gen 6 were better than the 2.5D, and Gen 7's 3D is better than Gen 6's.
Yes, a few Pokemon models have some problems, but so did the sprites. Some of them looked horrendous. Like the noodle neck Charizard from Gen 4 and 5.

Female characters are overrated as fuck. With a few exceptions like Lillie, male characters have been consistently the best in the series. Even in SM, the number of good male characters is double the number of good females. Kiawe and Nanu deserve to be more popular than shit like Lana and Mallow. Even fucking Ilima was better and better than those two.

On topic of overrated-ness, some protagonists are overrated as fuck. Some, because others somewhat deserve it. Riding on Fug to destroy meteors and fighting aliens, or riding on a space lion through worlds, with the Interpol sucking their dick to help save the region from aliens is somewhat deserving.

Pokemon following you is an overrated feature. Amie and Refresh are much better. I'd rather play with my Gyarados and Bewear than have them be shrunk in size and follow me around, doing fucking nothing.

Shilling certain Pokemon is fine. Preferred, even. I don't want to live in a world where all Pokemon are treated equal. Superior Pokemon deserve superior treatment.

Pokemon gameplay is not that good. The best part of of the series is the world. GF handles this the best.

Out of characters, so stopping now.
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I really like ORAS and have replayed it over 10 times
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>>32454438
Your first statement is fine, not every pokemon shouldn't have to be good, but we also shouldn't have situations such as Beautifly being completely outclassed by Butterfree in every possible way, while Butterfree is an awful pokemon in general. When you're outclassed by a shitmon, you're basically the worst of the worst.
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>>32458427
This nigga knows what he's talking about
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>>32455542
>Daily reminder that hatch locationism is a thing.
I wish I never knew this because I never thought of it. Now I know I'll want to do that whenever I breed Pokemon again.
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I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion but I am fucking sick of the Icy Rock and Mossy Rock to evolve Eevee into Glaceon and Leafeon. Even more now than ever before since Sun and Moon introduced the fucking Ice Stone. It's also stupid that Espeon and Umbreon don't evolve with Sun and Moon stones. The only Eevee form that is viable at all to not evolve by a stone at all is Sylveon thanks to the Amie bullshit, but even that could be fixed by shifting a few game mechanics around. Give it a Pretty Ribbon or some shit and level it up. Hell, turn that trade scale item to evolve Febass into a level up item, a Shiny Stone, Dawn Stone, etc.. There's plenty of opportunities.

Fuck Glaceon and fuck Leafeon.
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>>32458427
>>32458661
samefag
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>>32458709
Gamefreak does this because they know I wanna use a Glaceon ingame without going through hoops to do so.
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>>32458709
>The only Eevee form that is viable at all to not evolve by a stone at all is Sylveon thanks to the Amie bullshit
Why not just a Shiny Stone?
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Not sure how unpopular these spicy opinions are, but here we go.
I fucking hate Charizard, I've disliked it ever since it fucked Ash over in his first trip to the League, and it's only gotten worse. I feel like any Pokemon could've been as popular as Charizard if they were pushed as much as Charizard. At the end of the day, I'm just a very angry Grassfag.
Outside of Charizard, I don't mind gen 1 pandering that much.
The writing of Pokemon characters is better than people give GF credit for. Cheren, Bianca, Colress, Gladion and Guzma really stand out to me.
I used to hate Sinnoh and D/P/Pt, but I played through most of Pt again and I still really fucking hate it. The Pokemon variety is still terrible and the reliance on HMs is inexcusable. I'm convinced people only praise these games because they were what they started with.
Anyone who wants Pokemon to adopt dating sim elements should have their 3DS smashed.
Fairy type is one of the best things to happen to Pokemon in a long time. Fuck Dragons and Outrage spammers.
Pikachu is really cute.
Pokemon Conquest is just as good as Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and deserves a sequel.
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I liked some parts in SM, but it is by far the most unfinished Pokémon game I have ever played. Should have at least had tutors.

Grass is my favorite type, and Bug is my second. (Can't bugfags and grassfags get along?)

Decidueye is my Alola starter, but I have come to full acceptance that he will never be shilled.

Mimikyu is not cute. It's eyes are very expressionless and never blink. and it's anime counterpart's voice is just cringeworthy.

I like Diamond and Pearl, and dragon types were good, but not OP back in gen 5.
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A Kanto remake would be a shit move and the only reason why I'd want it to happen is to see the shitstorm over it not being as magic and great as their nostalgia lead them to believe.
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Despite liking the music and story I thought BW/BW2 were awful.
3rd gen, specifically Emerald was my favorite
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>>32458885
>The writing of Pokemon characters is better than people give GF credit for. Cheren, Bianca, Colress, Gladion and Guzma really stand out to me.
This is not an opinion. This is an objectively wrong statement. Colress, Gladion and Guzma, maybe, but Cheren and Bianca were shit characters and they deserve to be called out on it. When half their dialogue can be cut and nothing of value is lost, and the extant of development they is learning the obvious, something they should already be aware of, that's a bad character.

Cheren and his whole struggle with what strength meant was forced and shittily handled, to the point I didn't even realize when that point resolved. Bianca, and her coming to terms with her weakness as well as her conflict with her father were shit. The latter was just there to repeat the message that Pokemon are with us one more fucking time, and it was done so by a random passerby. The former, her weakness part, took too long. She was weak. It was clear from the beginning. She admitted it herself. Accepting that shouldn't even take half that time, and reading her go on about this same thing for the entire game was boring and shit way to handle a character.
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I've never disliked a generation and I find saying an entire gen is bad based on a Pokedex is beyond stupid (seriously, you can't find it in your empty, pessimistic, insipid taste to not like even a handful?).

Megan's need to be retconned into full fledged egos (I don't give a shut about eviolitr third stage mons) or at least have the mega forms be permanent form changes for a Pokémon (like Deoxys or Rotom).

Im not a gamer and I only really play Pokémon so I don't understand how you can not like a main series Pokemon game if you have enjoyed past main series games. I genuinely think you have a polluted set of expectations if you don't like new Pokémon games, even if it is just a little.

I really like the look of the gen 6 games, chibi isn't bad. ORAS looks great to me.
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>>32459027
One last opinion.

I hate fan made/rom hacks or whatever that are called. Pokemon Brown/Clover/Nova Sun/Random stupid sounding gem name like Amythist/whatever stupid sounding name they have...fuck the lot of them. I applaud a fan for making a game out of passion or to improve the games as they see fit but I think fans should just play the official games and be happy with them.

I know you'll hate this one.
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>>32459040
>I applaud a fan for making a game out of passion or to improve the games as they see fit but I think fans should just play the official games and be happy with them.
You just contradicted yourself.
Also: >wanting everyone to be sheeple and only suck on GF's cock
Fucking GF apologist.
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>>32458724
I bet you loved Mount Lanakila.
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>>32459067
Huh, yeah, I did. Probably should have proof read that.

Anyway, my point was that making a game to make it better is pretty cool but I think it should just be kept personal. As in, not trying to one up GF at their own game.
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ORAS are one of my top 3 favorite Pokemon games of all time (along with HGSS and I guess BW2). I would choose ORAS over Emerald any day of the week.

I like XY very much. The games feel unfinished at certain times (inaccessible Rhyhorn race, bike race track with no purpose, closed Power Plant doors etc.) but they're still very enjoyable and I've replayed my X version at least three times without getting bored. Playing XY for the first time was some of the most fun times I've had with Pokemon.

Even though I like BW2 a lot, I think this board gives these games too much credit, hailing them as the absolute peak and unrivaled masterpiece of the series. When talking about literally any other Pokemon games, /vp/ focuses mostly on the negative aspects and nitpicks about a bunch of insignificant stuff. When talking about BW2 however, all flaws are conveniently forgotten, even though Gen V as a whole was guilty of many things (beginning of casualization with Gym Leaders having not more than three Pokemon and Elite Four members having four, pixelated sprites, linear region, handholding in general, bad rivals, awful season system that forced you to wait a couple of MONTHS to reach certain areas and so on).

If we're looking at the games at the time of their release, I think Gen II was the best.
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Sinnoh anime is overrated. Too overrated. It was just as bullshit as any other season, the main trio was the worst, as Brock didn't fit in anywhere and Ash was, well, Ash, and Dawn was the only tolerable one of the group.

The secondary characters were shit. All of the Contest only characters were SHIT of the highest grade. They looked retarded and acted retarded. At very least the faggot from Hoenn or the Kalos "Queen" looked good, if nothing else. You can't even say that for Sinnoh ones. Paul was shit. One dimensional as fuck, even more so than Gary. Edge: the character.

All the underage faggots trying to act "smart" and "deep" call the shit they had "nice development", simply because they added a fucking sob story. A really shit and generic one, at that. Kid with abusive parents, joins the main characters, and rises above with FRIENDSHIP! Actually, scratch that. He didn't even "rise above", as he only managed to win with fucking plot armor. And this took the entirety of the season to achieve. Fucking Rowlet has had more development and characterization, and it hasn't even been around for half that time.

Pokemon have had better development and characterization since fucking Gen 1, but no, the retarded fucking monkey was better. "Dohoho, I liked the sad story and how the monkey was abused the most. It was the deepest shit ever. Look how refined my fucking taste is". Literally kill yourself you fucking braindead retards.

It was shit, like any other season. Just being slightly less shit doesn't make it not shit. The only redeeming quality were Dawn and battles. The battles were full of plot armor bullshit, but at least they TRIED to include game mechanics, like Special Abilities.
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Kris is my waifu
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>>32455459
I wanna believe so badly.

on different matters.
Not only I don't give a fuck about competitive but I've grown to hate it.
I believe it ruins the message of friendship the frachise tries to convey.
Why? Because you're doing exactly what they villanize: treating pokémon as objects, numbers. A pokémon it's only "good" when it's "perfect". Isn't that what Polo and many other antagonistic rivals did?

SM where great and take a step on the right direction by finally developing the story towards JRPG standards.

I legitimaly enjoyed Lyssandre as a villain...until they fuck up his character with all that 'let's destroy the world' shit thrice in a row.

gen 4 bored me to bits. Gen 5 almost made me quit pokémon, I don't see where that 'oh so great story and villain' is. Plasma is a fucking copycat of Team Rocket in disguise.

Also, I hate it when people say Giovanni's objective is money. Only a random NPC says that on the original games and GF just took advantage that people took it as Giovanni's goal to just cram it into the remakes and not think on what he really wants, which means that we will never know his real plans and that's a shame.

and I could go on....
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>>32459652
>I hate it when people say Giovanni's objective is money
That's true, though. He literally runs a casino. Team Rocket is the only team that steals Pokemon and does bad things simply because they can, with no excuses. Giovanni was designed to be a typical Yakuza leader, nothing more.

>GF just took advantage that people took it as Giovanni's goal
People didn't even care about Giovanni's goal when RGB came out. No one did. The only human someone ever gave a shit about was the rival, unnamed at the time. People only began to see Giovanni's goal as money after they portrayed it as such in the anime.

Giovanni is just a one dimensional character, anon. Not every character was designed with huge amount of thought behind them. They wanted evil, they made evil. That was it. There was no other motive.
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>I don't care about competitive. I judge Pokémon almost exclusively on their design, concept and lore
>The only good thing about Kanto games are the Kanto Pokémon (and the music). Kanto is easily the blandest region of all
>Gen 5, 6 and 7 have more bad mon designs than good ones
>Game Freak should create a line of challenging games for the older fans
>Only mediocre Pokémon should've gotten Megas
>all Alola starters and their evolutions are absolute dogshit and I'm glad I didn't play those games
>While most pikaclones aren't bad, it's ridiculous that every Gen features a standalone electric rodent. Pikaclones would be much better if they had different types and evolution lines
>Pokemon being normal/fire or normal/electric is fucking retarded, just make them pure fire or electric
>Game freak has rushed XY and SM for shekels and it shows
>if you're older than 12 you shouldn't bitch about the Ashnime because it's aimed at children
>Pokémon Sage has too many dual typed pokemon
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>>32459806
>>if you're older than 12 you shouldn't bitch about the Ashnime because it's aimed at children
Fuck you. It might be aimed at children, but it's also literally the only option you have if you want an anime. Unless they make another anime not aimed at children, this one is for everyone who likes Pokemon and anime.
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>>32454438
>I dont think every pokemon has to be good in competitive, even as someone who enjoys competitive. I'm completely fine with a pokemon having a gimmick or handicap and i'm fine with pokemon that are only ~viable~ in certain situations or only good in game. once became okay with this i enjoyed Pokemon a lot more.
The only people who say this are those who's favorite happens to be OU viable or enjoy the majority of designs that are currently "meta"

My interest in competitive dropped considerably after i realised im not having fun with any team i make due to not actually liking any of the Pokemon I use

Go fuck yourself OP
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>>32459840
I never said you couldn't watch it, just that you have no right complaining about the characters, the stories, the humor etc.
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>>32458885
Conquest was just a very watered down Fire Emblem and Fire Emblem is a mediocre series to begin with

If any Pokemon spin-off deserves a sequel nowadays it's Pokken
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>>32459892
So you're saying that no one should ever complain about the only anime a huge franchise like Pokemon has is a shit? That no one should complain how the stories, characters, the humor etc. isn't even aimed at Pokemon's fanbase, but only a tiny portion of it and is thus shit?

Anon, these are reasons TO complain, not to just accept it. I don't understand your way of thinking. If this isn't something to complain about, what would be? If the next game in Pokemon was casualized even further, to the point it was infuriating to just play for anyone but kids, would that not be something to complain about?
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>>32459498
You're missing the point that Sinnoh was actually one of the better adaptations of a region only short of its respective Battle Frontier. It's also when battles really started to refresh from the formula seen in Kanto up to Hoenn to what we seen today.

It's not revered because it was great or interesting, but that it did so many things right for an arc, which is why it's brought up as a standard. It's not that Paul was a great, it's that he was a rival you wanted to see Ash beat down. It's not that Galactic was handled particularly well, but they were a prominent threat that took time to build. It's not that the Gym Leaders were super interesting, but they were all characterized well enough well enough outside their gym battles to be handled as characters and not just plot milestones.

The real reason why non-waifufags liked Sinnoh was because the arc was more or less Ash temporarily getting his shit together.
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>>32460179
>it's that he was a rival you wanted to see Ash beat down. It's not that Galactic was handled particularly well, but they were a prominent threat that took time to build. It's not that the Gym Leaders were super interesting, but they were all characterized well enough well enough outside their gym battles to be handled as characters and not just plot milestones.

That has been done ever since Sinnoh, better in some cases. Both Unova and Kalos actually have Gym Leaders be Ash's companions, fleshing them out more than all of Sinnoh's leaders combined. And the rest still got a couple of episodes at the very least to them. Unova established the rival way earlier than Sinnoh, and while it was another shit rival, at least he couldn't be boiled down to a single fucking trait. Kalos went a step further, making one of the best characters in Pokemon anime Ash's rival, Alan, and gave an extra rival in Shota. Team Flare arc was a billion times better and had much better build up than the shit with Team Galactic.

If all of that applies to other regions, Sinnoh is not special in any regard.
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>>32459891
Words of truth.
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>>32459099
You clearly don't get the point of fan content.
No kind of fan-generated content seeks to be "better" than the franchise it's based on, simply to do things the franchise has never done, or do things in a different way.
Sharing all this kind of stuff generates a strong community and strenthens the appeal of the franchise for some people.
Hell, this board is filled with fan-generated content. Would you still play pokemon as avidly if you were told to keep your opinion to yourself instead of trying to compete with GF's by posting it on a forum for taiwanese cartoons?
Same thing happens with fan-games, really. They're just a bit different kind of people that enjoy creating/sharing games based on their favorite franchise instead of bitching about their opinions about it all day.
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>>32458798
Did you finish reading the post you replied to? He mentioned that.
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>>32459891
do you think i posted a picture of drampa for no reason? most of my favorite pokemon are uu or ru at best. stop making assumptions about people
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>>32454482
>I think you went a bit overboard with them spoilers m8
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I don't watch the anime. I haven't seen any seasons since OS. I watch 10-20 episodes, and drop it right there every season and just watch the major battles later on. The only time I ever wanted to continue watching it and wasn't forcing myself was with Mega Evolution Specials, and sadly, they ended with just 4 episodes. They were genuinely the best thing from the anime.

Now, that's not an unpopular opinion. Not many watch the anime. My "unpopular opinion" is that if you are over the age of 12 and like SM anime even a bit, you should actually suicide. Emphasis on the "suicide" part. It is not just some "slice of life fun". It is a retarded piece of shit that anyone with a tiny spec of self respect and intelligence cannot watch. I would find watching fucking ants carry shit to their colony over the course of hours more fun, as there would at least be some progress. You could be doing anything. You could even be watching another slice of life anime, one that's actually fun. Yet, from all the options you have, if you choose to watch the shit that is SM anime, you don't deserve life.

On a side note, if you just want some "slice of life fun" WITH Pokemon, watch any fucking season of this goddamn anime. They're all slice of life shit, with a few episodes in between that actually matter. Literally the same as SM anime.
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>>32458709
stone evolutions in general are stupid as fuck. Like what, three pokemon evolve with a thunderstone? Pikachu, Eevee and Eelektrik.

I think the stupidly complicated evolution methods need to go the way of the dodo, or at least stop introducing more every gen.
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>>32459498
The thing about Paul is there wasn't actual very much actual conflict before then. Paul gave the show what it needed most at the time.
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>>32454438
>Hau
>Great character
Nah, Hau is a little faggot and it has nothing to do with "bad ass rivals". I liked Trevor and Shauna, I like Tierno's theme of dancing mons but hated him.
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>>32461129
Okay? I mean, it doesn't really refute the anon's point. He called him shit. Even if he bring in conflict, it doesn't make him not shit. Just that his role was a basic role.
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>>32461003
That's not really an unpopular opinion so much as it's a popular-judging-from-the-fences one. Unpopular would be giving it a chance.
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>>32461003
I think that you can to fuck off.
Also remember take your Alan gary stu first and leave this world with him.
The script in a simple filler episode of SM has more substance than the Mega evolution specials, where, the only good thing was the action.
Seriously i hate people like you, probably you are one of those edgy otakus who think that SAO is good or something...
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>>32458191
>the autists wet dream the is amie/refresh

You don't like petting your pokemon anon? You'd probably get a saddeny also your ideas are shit
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>>32459027
>>32459040
How fucking close minded can you get man?
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>>32459652
>Not only I don't give a fuck about competitive but I've grown to hate it.
>I believe it ruins the message of friendship the frachise tries to convey.
My nigga. I agree that people take competitive WAY too seriously.

Also, the original Johto dex is shit, and Gen 4 helped it out far more than /vp/ would like to admit.
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Rhyperior really isn't a bad design in itself, but since its competing with the literal perfection that is Rhydon, it was guaranteed to be worse than its pre-evolution. It simply had the stacks against its favor.
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>>32461440
Well he made the story better by bringing that element. Even if his (shitty) opinion was correct and Paul was shit he still made the series a lot better because the massive absence of conflict. This explains why he's "overrated".
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>>32459892
Considering that other 22 minute advertisement shows for kids such as Digimon, the lighthearted Gundam series, Yu-Gi-Oh!, and many other children shows completely blow Pokemon out of the water in literally EVERY aspect, yes, people actually do have the right to complain.
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>>32459891
But thats the reason why Smogon exists, so that your "bros" can have a meta in which they can actually accomplish shit in. There are some exceptions like Ledian and Luvdisc that will never be good in any standard meta unless they get massive changes to their BST, ability, and typing (i.e. make them a completely different pokemon). Anyway, OU is argueably the worst standard tier anyway.
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