PokémonVsDigimon game when?

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>>32449728

Damn

Who is this semen demon?

IT'S TIME FOR A DEATH BATTLE!!!

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>>32449746
What?

>>32449750
Hikari

Is this a hikari thread now?
I'm okay with that if it is

Powers levels are too different.

You'd have to either nerf the Digimon down to the Pokemon's level or buff the Pokemon up the Digimon's level for it to work.

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>>32449759
>>32449775

>>32449759

More

>>32449728
Oh heck no.

>>32449728
I've been asking for years.
And now Bandai-Namco just made a Pokemon game for Nintendo. The opportunity to have a Digimon as a guest fighter or something was there, and wasn't capitalized.
It feels like one of those childhood fantasies that can't happen for some reason. Yet Pokemon gladly crosses over with Nintendo's other properties in Smash, and also Tetris, Puzzle League, and fucking Nobunaga's Ambition for some reason. They even had a Tamagotchi character in Mario Kart, and Tamagotchi directly ties in to Digimon.

>>32449728
Who is this ejaculate immaculate

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>>32449759
>Hikari
??? Woah her Digimon couterpart is a guy with tits?
I didn't know this.

>>32449893
>They even had a Tamagotchi character in Mario Kart,
What

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>>32449970
Mametchi from Tamagotchi was in Mario Kart Arcade GP2.

>>32449893
GP is made by Namco dumbass. They even had Pacman in the last one.
Anyway a Pokemon/Digimon crossover can't work due to how grossly overpowered Digimon is.

>>32449983
>GP
Who cares?

>>32449728
Heck no!
We have enough edgy shit. Seriously i love Tamers and Adventure but that's it.

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>>32449966
Both are pretty flat, but ours is better.

>>32449986
Bandai and Namco merged years ago, my dude.

>>32450030
I'll give it to you, but only because Kari is a Mary Sue of the highest degree. Dawn is much more down to earth.

Shin Megami Tensei x Pocket Monster

>>32450047
Yeah because that's the important part.

>>32450058
>tfw it's a game about J-pop idols

>>32450049
>Kari is a Mary Sue of the highest degree.
What

>>32450079
>can do no wrong
>chosen by homeostasis

>>32450086
>chosen by homeostasis
Dude.
All eight of the main characters of Adventure were "chosen".
They're literally called "The Chosen Children".

>>32450070
Idols aside the game was pretty good. Shame they won't roll that battle system into SMT or Persona.

>>32450068
>>32449986
>Mega-level Digimon are equivalent to legendaries, and more or less powerful depending on the Mega in question
>Ultimate-level are your bog-standard fully-evolved Pokemon
>Champions are mid-level Pokemon
>Rookies are starters and Route 1 mons
>Fresh and In-Training are Caterpie/Magikarp-tier

Easy.

Hell, you could even just lift the stats wholesale from the Digimon World or Digimon Story games, and use some programming wizardry to convert them into roughly equivalent damage outputs depending if you're attacking a Pokemon or Digimon.

Or make it a damn Pokken game.

>>32450097
And she's specifically the conduit for Homeostasis and the void of reason.

>>32450079
Let's see...she instantly gets an Ultimate. It strikes down a strong villain. (though yes, only temporarily) She's like the guardian angel of small, creepy digimon for some reason. I don't recall a single part where she had to get stronger or learn something. (I could be mistaken on that, but I don't remember 02 that well. There could've been something between her and Yolei, but I don't know why)

>>32449783
Or exclude fodder pokemon. And God Digimon. So it's shit like Wargreymon and Tyranitar (both can do shit like bust cities or crush mountains respectively) and not rattata and zeed. Of course there's still shit like island level delibird, star level mega fug, delays and mewtwo, etc from spinoff and such that can keep with a lot of Digimon and beat a fuck ton outside of shit like neo, the Knights, etc but that doesn't really count.

>>32450103
That's not exactly true. There are some Ultimates that are STRONGER than your standard final evos, though possibly not stronger than a pseudo-legend with few exceptions.

>>32450103
>Easy
Congrats you've ruined one of the two depending on who gets powered up or down. Also you realise there's a fuck ton of megas that could put Arceus to shame right?

>>32450103
>>32450116
Or:
>Digimon only evolve up to Rookies by level, evolve by friendship into Champions, and use a Mega Evolution-like system to Digivolve multiple times mid-battle to Ultimate, Mega and finally Super Ultimate, if available.
This way, the Pokemon gets a chance to KO the Digimon while it's only at Champion or Ultimate.

You could even make it so you can only have the one partner Digimon, with HP equivalent to a whole team of Pokemon.

That puts the two mon types on (roughly) equal playing fields.

>>32450116
Here's a simple way to go about it that would tie in to an overall story.
>a virus from the Digital World has corrupted the Pokemon PC Storage System network
>the player has to enter the Digital World to save it
>with your partner Digimon, you travel between different branches of the Pokemon Storage network, saving different PC boxes from the virus
>each time you save a PC, you can "borrow" Pokemon from the boxes to aid you

Actually, I have a theory about the digimon that are usually portrayed as being obnoxiously powerful, and that is for a great deal of them, they are only powerful WHEN PLACED IN THE ROLE THAT MAKES THEM POWERFUL. It is possible to be a Gallantmon and not be a Royal Knight for instance. They are otherwise no stronger than other Megas.

>>32450143
Find me an instance of a digimon being weaker when they aren't in a leading role.

>>32450109
>And she's specifically the conduit for Homeostasis
This isn't necessarily a good thing. The previous conduit hard reset the digital world and is now currently choking her partner to death.
>and the void of reason.
You mean voice? Just because most of the 02 characters are morons doesn't mean she's any smarter. She and Takeru/TK were specifically intended to be the seasoned veterans when 02 started.

>Let's see...she instantly gets an Ultimate. It strikes down a strong villain.
Angels are strong against Devils, and weak against everything else.
>She's like the guardian angel of small, creepy digimon for some reason.
Numemon are either comedy relief or fodder to make a villain look evil. Don't take this one so seriously.
>I don't recall a single part where she had to get stronger or learn something.
Not much in Adventure, given she joined the party towards the end and spent a good bit of that time either possessed by Homeostasis or sick. Come 02 she's supposed to be scared and intimidated by darkness and despair, and by finding faith in her friends she can surpass it. But, 02 being 02, its delivery is shit and comes out of nowhere. However, the next Tri movie has her Mega/Ultimate in its dark form, so obviously she's screwing something up.

>>32449783
I see three ways to work around this:

Make it a card game, which allows you to diss the power levels for both. Maybe taking a few cues from pokemon tcg and digimon's more popular tcgs.

Make it a fighting game, which, while neat, would miss the point as these arent fighting game franchises.

And the third, considering digimon doesnt give a shit about consistency anyways just go all the way and pretend they are as strong as pokemom in the world the game takes place.

>>32450143
>They are otherwise no stronger than other Megas.
Yes because MarineAngemon can totally take on something like Lucemon. Digimon has extremely strict power tiers.

>>32450159
MetalSeadramon is usually thought of as being an ordinary Mega. The Dark Masters are supposed to be VERY strong. Supposedly, they overcame the Sovereigns. (I don't believe it, either, but that is the lore) Machinedramon itself is supposed to be obnoxiously strong. One of the strongest there is. It is either thought to merely be slightly stronger than most Megas or it is just another Mega, depending on who you ask. Is this the official stance? I can't say, they don't seem to particularly have a stance on it. This may only be a retcon, but I think Antylamon was no more or less stronger than a normal Ultimate before being cast as a Deva. Mind you, all sites I see on it count it as being a separate kind of Anytlamon, but usually when Antylamon is shown, it is the Deva form, but I've never seen that form outside the function of being a Deva unless Cyber Sleuth counts.

>>32450114
None of that makes her a Mary Sue. A Mary Sue is someone who hogs the story and fixes all the problems, which Kari never is - the focus of the story and the fixers of the biggest problems are Tai and Matt/Davis and TK/Ken.

Also
>she instantly gets an Ultimate
She arrived late, so obviously she had to get herself powered up to the same level as everyone else quickly. And yeah, TK didn't have an Ultimate at that point, but Angemon can fight dark/evil Ultimates on even ground and when he became an Ultimate he could fight the most powerful Dark Master (Mega) on even ground.

>>32450204
>digimon
>strict

>>32450217
How is it not? The only part of the franchise so far that breaks the mold is Appmon for obvious reasons.

>>32450204
Funny you should say that, when Lucemon is a Rookie.

>>32450223
Only if you've only watched appmon a single other thing.

Digimon's inconsistency is the rule, not the exepction. I'm not saying its a bad thing mind you, as it gives the writers more freedom, but it is how it is. Or have you already decided what level digmon is? Or which is raidramon?

>>32450200
Pokemon doesn't care either, look at Fug, in the anime it's like cityblock, games it's country-large country, and in some spin-off a ranges from multicontinental to fucking being able to fuck with stars, same goes with mewtwo, has a town level feat in the anime, is ambitious as fuck in the games but ranges from small planet to small star in spinoff ie shadow mewtwo planet razer being a well known example. Also goes for normal mons like small building Charizard in irigins, large building in the anime, ambitious in the games or town if we include dexnav entire site with it being able to quickly melt a 10000 ton iceberg or as far as island level in various manga. The worse offender is the poke gods with being building in raw power and city level hax but universal in their Oc forms, universal with prep in the games or ARCEUS ranging from country on the anime at max power to casually universal in the games being able to recreate a universe from scratch just for shits and giggles.

>>32450227
And a champion
And an ultimate
And a mega

>>32450248
Might want to take another crack at that post anon.
And actually show some kind of inconsistency.

>>32450258
>a champion

??? When did this happen. He has no Champion form last I looked.

>>32450287
Does it really matter?
Lucemon refers to at least 3 digimon in the same line.

>>32450254
>The worse offender is the poke gods with being building in raw power and city level hax but universal in their Oc forms, universal with prep in the games or ARCEUS ranging from country on the anime at max power to casually universal in the games being able to recreate a universe from scratch just for shits and giggles.
There are several Digimon that could do the same anon.
Then there's something like Neo.

>>32450300
You specify by the form's name. Falldown Mode, Satan Mode, Larva. (or Chaos Mode/Shadowlord Mode)

>>32450254
I'd say size is a small issue compared to two unrelated digimon having the same fucking name or a digimon being whatever evolutionary level. At least I know fug is fug and is a dragon/flying legendary.

>pokegods
I dont even know what you're going on about in here. If its lore and gameplay inconcistency then welcome to video games.

>>32450269
Might wanna read the post then because I did.

>>32450217
The only Digimon series that slightly went against the whole rookie > champion > ultimate > Mega or anything similar was Next, if only briefly, seeing as raising Digimon meant something.
Unfortunately nothing really came off it because Tsurugi had digimemory hax.

>>32450342
I know of a zillion games where the lore and gameplay don't interfere with each other. Shut up.

>>32450346
>because I did.
All I see is you trying to save face because you haven't shown anything inconsistent. All you've done is go "it is because it is"

>>32450342
>two unrelated digimon having the same fucking name or a digimon
What mon?

>>32450348
And, you know, the ones that introduced alternate levels.

>>32450350
And there's two zillion where it does.

>>32450358
How are you liking that bandai sama cock anon?

>>32450365
Raidramon, hackmon out of the top of my head.

Yes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9wbsU53wq0s

>>32450436
That doesn't mean it has to be the standard.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcz2vHLqtNw

>>32450436
>Raidramon, hackmon
Hackmon is a redesign like Xros Wars Greymon not a different species.
Raidramon the armored evolution is only that in English, in Japanese it's Light among.

>>32450461
Nice autocorrect fgt

>>32450436
>the ones that introduced alternate levels.
The only two being Xros Wars and Appmon.
Both having a similar yet different scale that's consistent throughout their respective series.

What are you talking about?

>>32450469
Auto correct aside do you have a real example or are you just going to start shitposting?

>fgt
Guess I have my answer.

>>32450461
Except one hackmon is an appmon and the other a regular digimon and the old greymon is still around.

Didnt know about raidramon so point taken on that one.

>>32450478
But they're inconsistent franchise wise. And you forgot 02 and frontier.

>>32450486
That's another anon, I replied in >>32450495

>>32450486
I'm not the guy you were arguing with nigger

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>>32449728
It's called Sun and Moon.

>>32450556
kek

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>>32450556
>Ultra Beasts are actually Digimon that slipped from the Digital World and became mutated in Ultra Space in order to survive
>this is why they can't be caught in regular Pokeballs, despite being considered Pokemon by the people who discovered them

>>32450495
>But they're inconsistent franchise wise.
Yet consistent in their own universes as I said.
>And you forgot 02 and frontier.
02's only new element was Armor. Jogress had been a part of the series a while prior but still follows the same progression as before. Anyway armor is equivalent to champion with exception to the golden digimentals.

Spirit evolution is essentially the same but renamed so
Hybrid > human hybrid > beast > Fusion and whatever the other fusions were. Personally I never watched it all the way through and just caught bits and pieces of later stuff.
In any case Digimon doesn't really stray from these power tiers unless there's an exception like Lucemon. Although admittedly once you reach mega everything is just grouped in that tier now seeing as Super Ultimate has been made redundant.

>>32450342
God's as in Arceus and creation trio, ya know the god like ones.

>>32450608
The entirety of cross evolutions stray from those power tiers. In Xros Wars they beat Lucemon like half way through the show.

>>32450318
I mentioned Neo already, and I never said there wasn't, ya missed my point entirely. Anyway acasual, spatial, time conceptual manipulation with noncorperal conceptual beings ie Prime composite Arceus still stomp most digimon, not all of them mind you but still a large amount

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>>32449728
Ash loves the Hikaris

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>complaining about female characterization in Digimon
>when the only competent female in the series beefs it at the finish line

Kari in 01 was to give character development to Tai, and in 02 she was there to create tension between TK and Davis

Digigirls are literally just fapbait. I say this as a digimon fan

>>32450660
Rika at least has the air of being strong.

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>>32450660
>Digigirls are literally just fapbait.
You talking about the mons or the humans?

I don't see how different Digimon with the same name should be considered much different than Alolan forms.

>>32450658
wtf its cute

>>32450648
>Yet consistent in their own universes as I said.

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>>32450706

both really. the waifumons records aren't exactly impressive. in fact if your digimon isn't dinosaur or wolf based, you may as well just be auxiliary digivice holders

>>32450608
>Yet consistent in their own universes as I said.
We're talking franchise-wise though.

>Anyway armor is equivalent to champion with exception to the golden digimentals.
See? And they often fought ultimates even in "champion" mode. Not to mention Digmon evolves from a champion.

>In any case Digimon doesn't really stray from these power tiers unless there's an exception like Lucemon.
Or when the rookies could handle a mega in tri recently.

>>32450657
>Prime composite Arceus still stomp most digimon, not all of them mind you but still a large amount
Stomping Gods and reality warpers is more common than it should be in digimon dude. Just look at Yggdrasil and how many times its been beaten.

>>32450708
Alolan forms are different forms of the previous mon. Most, if not all, are literally stated to come from the original mon. They're also treated as the same pokémon by anone(including GF) except GF shills.

>>32449728
never

Is Zeed Millenniummon stronger than Arceus?

>>32450744
>Or when the rookies could handle a mega in tri recently.
What?
They were on the run dude and just about every attack was ineffective.

>>32450756
That seems to be the case in Digimon Xros Wars too.
I admit it seems like Appmon is just in a different universe though.

>>32450738
What about rabbits?

>>32450771
"ineffective" as in "didn't kill it"
Not "inefective" as in "didn't do shit"

>>32450772
Xros Wars is a different universe too dude.

>>32450756
Ever since the concept was unleashed, I felt it should be an exception to the Species Clause. However, I am aware that stuff like this makes having a whole team of nothing but Rotom possible. Not to mention that some of the Alolan forms clearly supplant the original forms, why would you run them both? However, not even this is entirely the case. Perhaps some sacrifices are to be made because the Alolan forms are at the very least functionally different from their originals.

S2 Kari would be a lot cuter without those fugly mustard pants. They look okay in that fanart but they are an eyesore in the show.

>>32450792
There's no difference with alternate forms on previous mons at all.
Even lore wise we already had Gastrodon.

>>32450773

momentai. but he was overshadowed by Guilmon (natch) and Renamon (girl power). Terriermon had his spotlight episodes, spent most of the series stalling enemies till Takato or Rika show up. Ultimately it is him that ends the D-Reaper though, and he also has the coolest mega form in the first 5 seasons

>>32450783
As in "it didn't do any damage at all but gave them enough time to escape"

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>>32450795

I completely agree. Kari should not be wearing pants

>>32450795
>S2 Kari would be a lot cuter without those fugly mustard pants
You bet she would.

>>32450800
It seemed like a rare case where SaintGargomon was actually comparable in power to the lead Digimon, but writing would often keep it out of the picture.

>>32450800
>and he also has the coolest mega form in the first 5 seasons
As /m/ as it is its not that great a mega.

>>32450801
4:20 ep 17 Gabumon hurts MetalSeadramon
enjoy Bandai's cock

>>32450798
That is why I brought up Rotom. They have different types, different movepools. They even have different stats. Yes, there are other pokemon that have other forms where this applies as well. Gastrodon is just one pokemon with two different skins. They all have the same stats and movepools.

>>32450834
Then ignore the region remark and stick to the form remark, its the same. The point of forms is to varate within a species. In some species like Meowstick the form IS the point of the species.

>>32450830
Disagreed. Green Giant Robo (ova version) is awesome. The only megas I like more aren't used by main heroes.

>>32450830

the smiley missles > anything else

he's also fucking huge and not some weird amalgamation like Imperialdramon was

>>32450847
I wish Imperialdramon looked like an amalgamation. It had pretty much completely voided any insect elements from the design at that point.

Tamers is weird in that there were just 3 in the core so both Rika and Henry got the rival treatment.

>>32450768
Going by feats and hype/lore of their most powerful incarnations, yes, Arceus does have some powers Zeed doesn't but Zeed overall out classes him significantly.

>>32450874
They were clearly learning from past experiences. Season 1 had a somewhat bloated cast, resulting in a few of the characters only getting one note of characterization, if that much. Season 2 just made it worse. Less is more honestly.

>>32450883
It's a shame the lesson didn't hold

>>32450896
Since Tamers they've only worked in 3s and 4s though.

>>32450896

Frontier had effectively half the cast, as digimon partners were no longer a thing, and still managed to put all the development into the MC, rival and the later sixth ranger. This also means that the one girl had to pull all the standard female tropes at the same time. It also widened the gap between MC/Rival and 'other'. Could you even call beast spirits perfect/ultimate levels?

>>32450919
>sixth ranger
lol

>>32450833
>hurts
>pulls Matt and Tai down a second later
You were saying?

>>32450923

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SixthRanger

see you tomorrow!

>>32450843
I can't. I was ignoring both regions and forms as a qualifier and just going with what makes pokemon unique from each other: type, movepool, and stats. True, I'd essentially be asked where does a Pokemon gain a new name, and that has been inconsistent since forever. Yet, no one will argue Nidoran male and female being used at the same time simply because the game counts them as separate pokemon. Is that it? The game's indexing itself? I've always found this entire idea to be balderdash. What am I arguing for, then? If I have an argument left, it's that the game is inconsistent, but that has nothing to do with VGC's rules, and even then, Species Clause was a rule far before competitive was even formalized. My verdict? They were all wrong entire time. The game is wrong, the fandom is wrong, everyone is wrong.

Of course, then I get into the reason why Species Clause was invented in the first place, to encourage diversity. Yes, in that sense, it is not fair to have two of the "same" pokemon, but my argument is they are not even functionally the "same" pokemon. They have the same name, but not the same roles. Why can't they recognize this?

>>32450912
>Frontier
>3 or 4
u wot

>>32451002
Eh, Takuya and Matt analogue were the only real main ones. Everyone else was tertiary

>>32451057
Just like in Adventure

>>32451072
No one had anything in Adventure.

>>32451083
I was talking about characters. >>32451057 claimed that only the Tai and Matt analogues mattered and the others didn't, which is the same thing that happened in Adventure

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>>32449758
OKAY!

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>>32450805
Negr what

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>>32451700

das right. no pants

Where did Digimon succeed and Pokemon failed? I mean, anime-wise.

>>32451720
No, the screenshot from the show you fucking dunce
I don't give a shit if she wears pants or not

>>32451741

oh, the monster thats holding her wants her to give him strong offspring.

no really

>>32449728
Friendly reminder she is confirmed officially incestuously infatuated with her brother and cucks the SHIT of of T.K.

>>32451754
You're fucking kidding me
They aired this on a children's show?
thats also pretty hot, considering preggo lolis are my fetish

>>32451786

its a tentacle beast looking thing too. in the western dub, the beasts just ask for her help to fight the evil digimon. help being just generic.

>>32451789
>tentacle preg loli
Stop making my erection harder
now I gotta find this shit because I'm craving it now

>>32451794

she's not a loli when this happens. she's in 'teenager' mode at the time.

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This is what I call fanservice

>>32451882
Kari is the only one who resembles the intended character.

>>32451896

Mimi is close, but her hair is off

>>32451736
There's tons of reasons, but I think the most important is, the stakes continually increase in each given show, leading to a more exciting show as each progresses. Ash has just been fighting Rocket on his way to the Pokemon league since the first season now.

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>>32451924

can't compare

>>32451879
Loli is a body type, not an age range

>>32451942

yes. Kari 01 is a loli, Kari 02, when the breeding was going to happen, she's a 'teen'

>>32451946
Kari 02 is definitely still a loli
A taller one, but she's still flat as a board and has no curves

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>>32450103
I'd go with this
Rookie vs 1 Pokemon (anyone)
Champion vs 2 or 3 fully evolved pokemon teaming up
Ultimate vs 6 fully evolved pokemon teaming up
Mega vs Same but one of them is mega evolved (and they are trying to survive instead defeat the digimon)
Anything beyond Mega vs Same + one of them with a Z-crystal

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>>32451959

i dunno man. any loli experts in the thread?

>>32451939
Not into that, man

>>32451324
>>32451685
Fuck off, Yoshizilla

>>32449728
I swear, I've been wishing for this for years, but it seems like it's something that will never happen.

>>32450103
This is the best solution (although I would simply remove fresh/in-training digimon).
You guys are fucking mad if you think Megas like MetalSeadramon or WarGreymon are not on the same level of Pokémon Mega Evolutions.
The 4 sovereigns could easily pass as our regular cover mascot legendaries.
Also, forget Arceus. Mega Rayquaza is pretty much on the same level as final evil digimon from the anime/games (think Daemon, ZeedMillenniummon, Lucamon Satan Mode and stuff like that)
You're giving Digimon too much credit.

>>32450200
The 3rd is the best solution.

>>32452134
*Lucemon

>>32451980
According to some random wiki, she is 13 in season 2. That is still lolirific.

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>>32452155

this character is 11. she's not a loli

>>32452163
I'd still fuck her.

>>32449728
Considering a lot of Digimon are extremely sexualized or extremely edgy, I'm pretty sure a family friendly game like Pokemon doesn't want a fucking Waifudigimon giving Pikachu an inter-dimensional blowjob or for Giratina to be jealous of the Digimon edgier than it.

oh yeah Tri is a thing. I should download and watch the rest of it-

>nyaa is kill

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32449783
Or both. Like in that D.C. vs. Mortal Kombat game

>>32452341
Aren't both DC fighting games and Mortal Kombat doing that to themselves? If they didn't, Superman/Lobo/Doomsday/Martian Manhunter would just whip the floor with every other character in Injustice and Scorpion could just drag everyone to hell and wait till they burn to death or until he's strong enough to punch galaxies away.

>>32451896
>>32451905
is this a joke, Sora's hairstyle is identical

>>32452333
It's all on Crunchyroll free now I think

>>32452357
oh ok I'll check it out. my internet is rather shitty for streaming but it's better than nothing

>>32450049
>Canon incest
>Mary Sue
Anon...mkay

>>32451896
Have you not seen digimon tri?

>>32451882
Goddammit Mimi, you smug bitch.

Reminder that Taichi and Hikari incest is canon

>>32452676
kek really?

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>>32452683
Yes

>>32452686
jesus fucking christ what
i always thought that episode was weird but holy shit

>>32452700
It's not just that episode, Hikari truly craved for Onii-chan dick

>>32452726
Mamoru Hosoda is fucked up.

>>32452686
That's a fake because it lacks independent confirmation. There is only one source, that came out many years after it logically should have if it was that old. Anyone can print out a page.

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>>32452686
>all of this shit
What were they thinking?

>>32449728
Pomf