Switch vs 3DS for next games

>>32439995
why wont you be able to pirate switch?

>>32439995
Reminder that every time GF is faced with new hardware they fuck up the engine:

DP's slow load times, lower framerate and bland art style

Everything on the 3DS

I'd like to have one good 3DS game optimization wise rather than have them hit the reset button yet again and fuck up a Switch game

>>32439995
Cons:
They will rush it once again because they have to redo their engine, then actually make a game, which we know will be disappointing.

>>32439995
Swich cons:
300 Buckaroos for a outdated home console

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>>32439995
>Cons: Only 1 screen
>Cons

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>>32440032
I know this is true. They are going to rush it again, we are going to get approximately 100 new Pokémon. About a quarter are going to be legendaries and there will be no adventure. It'll be a story, a playable story where you're constantly interrupted by cutscenes and blockades. The region will be smaller than any we've seen before, and there won't be a national dex because it'll be a purchasable DLC that you have to pay an annual fee for.
That's what the last games were, at least.

>>32440027
t. Fag

If our next games are DPPt remakes, I'd prefer they be 3DS games. DP were the first games in the franchise to introduce dual screen, it would be fitting for them to be the last before migrating to the switch.

If they aren't going to do remakes/third version/sequel(s) and declare gen 7 finished it would be fine to make the move to the Switch.

I have--and enjoy--a switch. I like being able to play on my tv and on the go. I put in 150hrs into Zelda and now rotate between Puyo/Tetris and Mario Kart regularly. I'd be okay with pokémon on the switch. I have concerns over battery life but those concerns are minor since I usually play in tv mode or plugged into the wall when in hand held.

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>>32439995
>Cons:
>- Only 1 screen

Next games in this gen will be on 3ds, period. You cannot deny this.

After that, gen 8's platform will be decided by how well the switch is doing. If the userbase is large enough, it will go there. If not, nintendo will make a successor to the 3ds and it will be on that. If both the switch and 4ds fail (extremely unlikely) it will stay on 3ds.

>>32440124
this

>>32439995
you missed portability fag. Classic OP

What if Nintendo made something like the Switch equivalent of a 2DS?
Instead of docking, it's just entirely portable, but still has the Switch library. Take away the console's gimmick like a 2DS did, but get more sales with Switch games with more people picking up a cheaper console.
How would this fare?

>>32440090
>bait
Me and take both know it's actually a handheld marketed as a home console.

doesn't matter, if they make a Pokemon game for it, I'll buy it......damn you Nintendo....

>>32439995
Why the fuck does it matter, you're going to get it ANYWAY.

>>32440164
It's not going to happen, because it wouldn't be cheaper for Nintendo to produce. The dock doesn't have any processing power, all of it is in the tablet.

>>32439995
I never really cared for graphics or framerate, and the controls in 3ds are better than in switch.

>>32440090
You know, no matter how the Switch ends up selling ultimately, the marketing is a simple success story for Nintendo. Takes some damn good marketing to seriously get so many people to believe it is a true home console hybrid rather than see the truth that it's a gaming tablet with TV out.

>>32440223
What exactly do you mean by 3DS controls are better than the Switch's?
Have you played with a Switch yet?
The joycons are pretty nice, and are just fine for portable controls. Two proper sticks will always beat out that c-stick nub on the "new" 3DS.

The rest of Gen 7 will be on the 3DS, while Gen 8 will be on the 3DS successor which Nintendo will probably announce next year

>>32440310
The 3DS successor is the Switch.

>>32440319
>being a retard

A dual screen sucessor is pretty much mandatory unless they want NDS and 3DS games to be forever locked to those consoles. The Switch being their next-gen bet trying to comprise both home and handheld markets is such an odd and never-seen-before move, the future is uncertain for a while still. The 3DS will continue to wind down during the next 2 years, then we will see what happens. Maybe they will release a Switch Plus revision with a WiiU style controller with a screen and the ability to play NDS and 3DS games.

>>32440348
It's not unprecedented, you know, lest you forget that the NES and SNES were not compatible, either, and neither was the N64 to SNES, or N64 to Gamecube. The console and it's games just end up being forever in the past and your only hope is now Virtual Console, except I think you have re-buy those on the Switch, too. I honestly don't know.

>>32440178
>>32440231
It's the same really:
300 Buckaroos for a fucking handheld console

>>32439995
New games will be for the new 2DS XL.

>>32439995
Nintendo likes to make their products available for as many people as they can. That's their idealism.

If anything the next mainline pokemon games will be on both.

>>32440027
So you want them to stay on the 3DS forever? Fantastic idea.

>>32440027
>>32440032
They can just use Unreal

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>>32440090
It's a handheld tho

>>32440346
>Believe in a 3DS sucessor

>>32440668
>>32440712
it really wouldn't surprise me at all if the sun/moon followup is dual released as a "new" 3DS and Switch title. fuck, they could go all the way retard and release one version as a "new" 3DS exclusive and the other as a Switch exclusive and it would sell Switches and "new" 3DS/2DS.

>>32440834
As long as it doesn't fuck up the interconnectivity between the two it doesn't matter. Although I seriously doubt that they would use both in any case. GF is lazy as fuck

>>32440792

Ebin.

Switch is an overpriced underppowered console, you can buy a ps4 with that money
The 3ds is cheap andd beautiful has a million of good games you can play for free and most of us already have one
3ds wins

>>32441510
Poorfag

>>32441524
Elitistfag.

>>32439995
Pros: Everything bertter than 3ds
Cons : 299$

But i think nintendo will release 128gb version 299$ and Drop 32gb price to 249$

Switch Cons: No Streetpass

Not saying they implemented it good on the 3DS, but it had potential.

>>32441510
>2018
>Want pokemon on 240p screen

This is cancer

>>32440027
Honestly, a lot of gen 7 points to them never getting the hang of 3DS. They don't seem to know what optimization is

>>32440100
Heck, worst case scenario... It can be turned sideways, creating one long screen about the size of the two ds screens

Worst case as it would be really fucking stupid for Gamefreak to be THAT obsessed with keeping dual screens

>>32440374
3DS: $249 in 2011 equals $274.28 in 2017.
DS: $149.99 in 2004 equals $196.49 in 2017.
GBA: $99.99 in 2001 equals $138.74 in 2017.
GBC: $69.99 in 1998 equals $104.76 in 2017.
GB: $89.99 in 1989 equals $180.30 in 2017.

>>32441790
>2011+6
>want mainline Pokemon on a home console that will be paid online

Nevermind the five dollars for bank, you'll be paying for fucking trading.

>>32441790
>I'll play pokemon game on 240p screen forever

Pure cancer

>>32439995
GF never changes platforms midgen.

>>32441510
>Switch is an overpriced underppowered console, you can buy a ps4 with that money
Why would I want to buy another overpriced and under powered console with no games like the ps4?

>cons
>only 1 screen
That isn't a con.

There are only two things that matter in this argument. The portability of the switch (it's too fucking big to be a proper handheld) and the shit framerates we get on the 3ds.

Personally, I'll take framerate drops if it means I can still take my console around in my pocket.

>>32441884
source?
inb4 your ass

>>32442080
Not that anon, but take the MSRP price and pop it into one of those inflation calculators.

>>32442073
>The portability of the switch (it's too fucking big to be a proper handheld) and the shit framerates we get on the 3ds.
One, stop wearing skinny jeans. They're both impractical and they look bad.
Two, framerate isn't a pro or con of a system as much as it is a sign of a shit developer.

>>32442087
You cannot get a Switch into your pockets. 3DS XL, I can understand, but the Switch isn't going in there. You'd need a bag or purse to carry it around.

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>>32440032
Why is gamefreak such a bad developer? Working on new hardware shouldn't be this big of a hassle with the low requirements top-down view RPGs bring. They have had 20 years to get it right and I'd argue gens 3 and 5 were the only times they truly mastered the hardware they were working on. And neither were particularly known as visually striking games by GBA or DS standards.

How can a developer be so fucking lazy? If nintendo and TPCI had half a brain cell between them, they would forcibly divest gamefreak of whatever stake they have in the franchise and give it to someone competent.

>>32442091
>You cannot get a Switch into your pockets.
Only if you're wearing the already mentioned impractical clothing. Anything else, if you aren't grossly over weight, is fine.

>>32442087
>Two, framerate isn't a pro or con of a system as much as it is a sign of a shit developer.
100% correct. I did not mean to imply otherwise; however, the past 3 pokemon games we've gotten on the 3ds have had framerate issues, and they've only gotten worse.

>skinny jean comment
I just plainly refuse to believe anyone in their right mind would defend the position that the switch is anywhere near as portable as anything in the gameboy/ds family of consoles.

>>32442091
>>32442125
The switch isn't as big as you think dude. Needless to say if you can fit a tablet in your pocket then you can fit a switch easily.

>>32442093
>If nintendo and TPCI had half a brain cell between them, they would forcibly divest gamefreak of whatever stake they have in the franchise and give it to someone competent.
They can't and "genius" sonorityis not competent

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>>32442140
It's not fucking pocket sized unless you wear baggy ass cargo pants.

>>32442140
After looking at a few videos of people trying to put it in their pockets I'd say it definitely fits in pockets. It's just a personal preference that it's still too big.

>>32442151
>literally proving the skinny jeans guys point
Come on. Stop invalidating my side of the argument please.

Con for switch is paid online and online services having to be managed through an app on your phone.

>>32442151
>Stop using skinny jeans
>Detach the joycons

>>32442151
>back pocket
>joycons
>skinny jeans
Are you retarded?

What protects it from shit in your pockets? The 3DS has a nice clamshell design but it seems like one piece of sand or something could fuck this entire console up

>>32442159
Fact is, you're not going to get the Switch into your pockets easily. You'd at least have to take the Joycons off, if you can fit it at all.
And the point isn't that you absolutely can't fit it into pockets or not, the point is that it isn't nearly as portable as the 3DS.

>>32442170
Well, technically you could say the same thing about any gameboy (except sp) and the psp's. Screen protectors are your friend.

>>32442170
Whether or not you carry it in yours pocket, a tempered glass screen protector is a worthwhile investment.

>>32442170
The screen is pretty tough, unless you go at it with a knife it's not going to scratch that easily.
The fan is placed in a way that if you put it in your pocket it's not going to be in the crevices where the dirt stays.

Also clean your pants.

>>32439995
Switch Cons: Paid Online Services

>>32442193
It's plastic, it's not "pretty tough". Some people have already had their Switches scratched by the dock. Get a screen protector.

>>32442199
I wouldn't be surprised either way but the website for the Switch says:
>After the free-trial period, most games will require a paid online service subscription from Nintendo in order to play online.
So I wouldn't be surprised if they gave Pokemon trades a free pass just sell more Pokemon games.

>>32442142
Colosseum and Gale of Darkness by themselves are better than any of the titles gamefreak has shat out in the past 20 years. Even Gamefreak's "good" games are bad when compared to the Gamecube RPGs.

>>32442202
>Some people have already had their Switches scratched by the dock
I've seen images of that but they're always deep gashes rather then plastic on plastic.

>>32442229
Perhaps in your deluded fanboyism, Gamefreak may be incompetent but they created pokemon and another good games, "genius" sonority only made two average games for the gc, a terrible wii game and shatted on shuffle

>>32442256
>two average games for the gc, a terrible wii game and shatted on shuffle

I don't believe you've even played GoD and Colosseum.

>>32442263
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU DIDN'T PLAY IT!!1!!

>>32442256
Also Gamefreak is almost on the tier of EA in terms of the quality of their products. At least Genius Sonority has shown passion in what few games they have made for the franchise. Gamefreak hasn't shown any passion or creativity since the glitch filled games of gens 1 and 2.

>>32442272
>Shuffle
>Quality
>Passion

>>32442288
>ORAS
>Quality
>Passion

I can cherry pick too! And what's more, I don't even have to cherry pick when it comes to gamefreak. They have been phoning it in on the main series games for years.

>>32439995
You forgot the online, where 3DS is the winner by far

Switch:
20$/year if you want to play online

3DS:
Free online

>>32442151
Why the fuck would you put it in your back pocket, do you want to sit on it and crush the thing?

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>>32442306
Maybe the series is for children who still have a sense of wonder and not bitter cynical assholes?

>>32442306
ORAS was really enjoyable and had the best feature of all games (dexnav)

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>you can't fit the Switch in your pocket.

If you take off the joy cons it's the same width of the 3DSxl and therefor can fit in your pocket.

Also stop wearing skinny jeans. If you buy a regular pair of men's jeans you could sadly fit the Switch tablet in there with room to spare.

Con: I don't have a Switch
pls stay on 3DS

>>32442086
Those inflation calculators aren't entirely accurate, or rather they show overall inflation. Some markets have seen wildly different numbers (college costs, housing). Others their costs have gone down (consumer electronics, for instance). Think of a 2000$ 6Mb hard drive, vs what 2000$ can buy in storage today (about 40 Tb). Spending 249$ for a 2011 handheld would actually be the equivalent of spending less today.

>>32440319
nope

>>32442932
Yes

>>32442955
Nintendo even said themselves there is going to be a 3ds successor

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I'm hoping Switch, because fuck 20fps double battles.

Also would allow for nicer character customization.

>LE SWITCH IS NOT 3DS SUCCESSOR NEW 2DS XL CONFIRMS IT!
WII Mini was released when the Wii no longer had software support, this is a repeat of the Wii Mini.

>>32440090
It's a handheld with video out.

>LE 2 HOURS MEME
I get 3:30 playing Zelda on half backlight and and 75% volume.

Launch 3DS was 3-5 hours and if you maxed it out with 3D on it went below 3 hours.

>>32442997
Source?

>>32442997
>Implying "CONSIDERING" is a confirmation( http://www.ubergizmo.com/2017/02/nintendo-considering-3ds-successor/ )
Remember the 3rd pillar that was the DS?

Switch will do the same thing.

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What gimmick could they use now that would one up 3D for another handheld ?

I can't think of anything(besides a VR gimmick), assuming it's not actually just another more powerful handheld with 3D implemented onto it

it's nintendo, they'll do it

>>32443037
This is the same company that said the wii U and Switch will exist side by side then discontinued the Wii U a couple months later.