2017 International Challenge April - The thread no one asked for

Interesting competitions when?
Alola vs Kanto was amusing, but the Kanto dex barely adds anything.
I'm getting fucking tired of all Tapus all the time, even if I'm actually running one myself this time.

>>32420393
I'm sad I didn't get to have enough time to finish playing yellow to set up my Kanto x Alola team. But yeah, it didn't add much more variety.
You can play VGC anytime in the regular championships ladder, what's even the point of a 3-day limited-battle ladder with the exact same rules?

That doesn't stop me from enjoying these, though. I barely play competitively otherwise.

>>32420411
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't even bother with these competitions if it weren't for the megastones, still not the biggest fan of doubles.
Just feels weird to me that the competition that gives out the 3rd gen starter stones isn't Hoenn vs. Alola or something similar.
There's just not enough variety available right now, especially if you want to have a shot at winning your matches.

whats the format for this one, i only signed up for stones. how many battles i gotta do?

>>32420432
Doubles, Alolan dex minus Box legends, Cosmog/Cosmoem and Necrozma, IIRC.
3 battles to qualify for getting the stones.

>>32420411
>what's even the point of a 3-day limited-battle ladder with the exact same rules?
They give out championship points so they're basically part of the circuit

>>32420428
>I'm pretty sure I wouldn't even bother with these competitions if it weren't for the megastones, still not the biggest fan of doubles.
You're probably by far not the only one, comparing the participation numbers of the first two comps this year with the rest.
I like doubles though, I just suck at this game and haven't been able to muster enough dedication to continue adapting my team after first creating it.
Maybe should start playing showdown, but I prefer the games.

>There's just not enough variety available right now, especially if you want to have a shot at winning your matches.
Except for the tapu/ub power creep, I kinda like the small meta, since I just started getting into this stuff. Less different combinations to keep in mind. Hopefully it's just for this year, though.

>>32420461
Breeding tickles my autism in a good way, so these competitions are a nice way of indulging in that, Showdown is just not the same.

>smaller meta
I do like that, but I don't like how horribly limited Alola dex minus Megas is. Kanto vs. Alola added a bunch of options (had some fun with Eviolite Tangela), but it wasn't enough for me.
They could've just continued on in the same vein, Johto vs. Alola, Hoenn vs. Alola, etc.
Allowing the whole dex just sounds like a recipe for Genies/Tapus/UBs galore, but restricting it too much is too far into the other direction, IMO.

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I'm currently trying a trick out a trick room team since I hatched a shiny Porygon with a fitting nature.

This is one of my "best" battles, any recommendations?

>>32420540
>no outlines hack
might as well just inject your pokémon

>>32420540
*trying out a trick room team

>>32420348
I really like VGC, but it really annoys me how the competitions are either singles or VGC. Why can't they make a cool, doubles competition?

>>32420544
I do sometimes to play against friends, but I like hatching them for competitions

>>32420547
Next month's probably will be

>>32420544
Not that anon, but I also have my 3ds hacked, because I want to own my own device, and do whatever I wish with it, not play by Ninty's or whoever else's rules on a device that I legally own.
Besides for simple injects (such as copying and un-EVing my locked competition mons to play with a friend) that are later reversed by an earlier backup of the save and never go online, I don't inject simply for morality reasons, and because it takes the fun out of the game for me. Might as well just play showdown at that point.

>send out celesteele
>gets raped by hydro vortex

>>32420348
I hope they dont continue to release mega stones like this in the future gens, its been a pain in da ass

>>32420629
Next gen it'll be mega stones + z-crystals :^)

Yeah fuck Lele.
I just got raped by the Lele and Drifblim combo. What's the best way to counter it?
I only managed to win against the 2 one time, and it was out of pure dumb luck cause the guy's Drifblim missed Will-O-Wisp on my Kartana.

>>32421184
A-Muk.

>>32421189
I knew it. I'm fucking retarded. I had one ready to use but somehow I thought I wouldn't need it.

>>32421184
Been out of touch. What's the Lele + Drift combo all about?

>>32421207
A-Muk's usage ratio is very much deserved.
It basically shits all over Lele and Blimp won't like Knock Off either, even with its item used.

>>32421213
Lele (or Fini) sets up terrain, Blimp unburdens its Psychic/Misty seed, goes faste and does things.
I'm running Fini/Blimp and use Misty Terrain for Swagger shenanigans.

>>32421213
Psychic Seed to get the immediate Unburden boost which then basically guarantees Tailwind and then other support moves, LO/Specs Lele under Tailwind is particularly scary

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>>32421184
I brought Gigalith and midday Lycanroc specifically for Lele + Drifblim. Those two pressure this lead immensely.
Usually it goes like this: Lycanroc knocks out Drifblim with Stone Edge, Lele brings Lycanroc down to its Sash and Gigalith knocks out Lele with Heavy Slam. I played around with Continental Crush on Lycanroc for a bit, because I thought the 80% accuracy was a bit too shaky, but then Lele always got the OHKO on Lycanroc so I'm using Sash instead.

I think midday Lycanroc is easily overlooked because of its practically non-existent bulk, but in sand it is the fasted Pokémon in this meta and has a solid base attack of 115 as well as access to Rock Slide for flinches and Fire Fang for Celesteela and Kartana. Crush Claw is also fun to soften up bulkier Pokémon in a pinch.

Oddly enough I havn't faced a single Lele + Drifblim lead yet or else I'd post a battle code of them in action. But they're doing a great job against other Pokémon as well. 2R5G-WWWW-WWW6-ZB4Y

I never played VGC seriously before making a team for this, so I'm a real rookie at it, but the last few weeks of practice have gone alright. It's a Trick Room team using a few of the common elements, but I also threw in a couple of things I wanted to try that I didn't see getting used much. I've had some wild shenanigans happen with Porygon2 grabbing Moody from Smeargle with Trace.

Now let's see how this tournament goes.

DJPW WWWW WWW6 ZDWA

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Gotta love all the bitch players who "disconnect" right before they're about to lose.

Thanks for wasting my time assholes.

>>32423305
It still counts as a win.

>>32423317
you sure? Because if you can find an official source that backs that up, then I would be very grateful.

It still shows the battle as counted in your battle total, but doesn't award and points, which is such shit.

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>only possible way for opponent to win is to get a series of lucky rolls
>it all happens

>>32421220
>>32421229
Damn. Thanks guys. Signed up for the comp just gotta organize my team. Not looking forward to that

>>32423350
Source is myself. Points are gonna be given to you, it just takes a while (usually once the next match is over you'll have them).
If after a battle the game takes you to the "Continue battling" screen instead of the Festival Plaza, you are going to get your points, believe me.

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>>32420603
>Alahu akbaring Celesteela
Feels good

>>32421184
>Lele and Drifblim combo
What's that? spoon feed me pls

>>32423574
Driftblim gets a psychic seed

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ZCCW-WWWW-WWW6-ZE4A

Honestly I was just in this to dick around and get stones. I didn't think I'd actually win some matches.

>>32423574
Unburden Drifblim + Psychic Seed + Lele = Drifblim with doubled speed plus a SDef boost, perfect for some support. Similar trick can be done with Misty Seed + Fini as well.

>>32423710
Neat. That mimikyu crit though...
Still too nervous to try competitive play.

>>32423916
I was legitimately shocked Dhelmise survived that. I had forgotten to EV train it, so that was Dhelmise surviving based solely on its natural defense.

Just finished all my battles for day 2, with a just under 1600 score.

How're the rest of you fairing?

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I have a few videos of my support arcanine anally raping a variety of teams that I'll fetch sometime in the morning.

>aaaaand here's a dead meme

>>32420348
>Have you ever had a battle end in a draw? What were the circumstances?
8FKW-WWWW-WWW6-ZGNR
No but this one seemed nearly unwinnable that I was just about to forfeit. Fuck man

>>32424097

I just did my required three and call it quits because I don't like doubles. Hope they do another singles one.

>>32424097
I did my three and did well this time, won 2/3 of the matches and barely lost the third, only misplayed slightly against a Koko/Lele pair. Will probably bring in Magnezone next time to handle that situation. But overall I'm happy with how my three fights went.

Yesterday i lost against a Ribombee/Oricorio team. I feel embarrased

>>32424097

I'm 4-0 right now. Three battles were beating under 1500 teams and one was 1573.

I have Kartana, Scizor, Magnezone, Primirina, Tapu Lele and Starmie.

Lots of steel and water, but the mind games in team preview I believe have screwed with my opponents minds.

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>Celesteela and Garchomp come in
>have to guess between around 8 sets total

>>32421339
Nice to know sun doggo can be useful. Might use mine next time.

>>32424097
I've done 10 battle. 8 wins, 2 losses
the 2 losses were the first 2 games so on one hand, I think I just needed to wake up.
on the other hand, around half of my wins were against people below 1500 and some clearly didn't know what they were doing. So, I don't know.
I'm not sure about my score but I think I'm near the 1600 points.

>>32424190
Me too. I prefer singles. Noticed a few days ago while playing online that I'm much better at those.

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>opposing Kartana is practically guaranteed to have Sash
>down to 1v1 with my Raichu
>he probably doesn't know it's modest (and slower)
>go for Stoked Sparksurfer instead of Fake Out for the free para
>he Protects, gets paralyzed, maybe 20% damage done
>next turn barely lives the NVE Thunderbolt
>fully paralyzed
>he disconnects

>>32423366
You have to be 18 years of age or older to use this site.

>>32424813

I wouldn't underestimate under 1500 players. A lot of times they use non popular mons or have really whacky sets and strategies that might not work on most teams, but you could be the one it works on.....been a victim of this before.

>>32424097
It's technically day 2 now, but I'm too fucking tired so I stopped after 15. Won 13 and lost 2. Sitting at around the 1640s. The team I'm using is like from February and it does feel old, as it auto loses to hard TR (unless my opponent screws up or has bad items) and double duck. And also Shell Smash Turtonator, shit was hilarious and I barely won thanks to my Kartana having Detect and my Arcanine having Bulldoze.

I'm having lots of fun, but I still want a non-VGC doubles competition to spice things up, as we already have a VGC dedicated ladder to play whenever we want, and singles is outright boring for me.

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>use Kartana in the last International
>every Garchomp ever has Fire Fang as coverage
>use Tapu Bulu in this one
>every Garchomp ever has Poison Jab as coverage

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Anyone else tired of seeing Garchomp?

>>32425088
desu I wish I liked it so I'd be less annoyed every time I have to use it to round out my own teams

>>32425088
I have only seen a Garchomp once, I used blizzard on it and it fainted. Is it really that common? My sis has seen quite a few chomps in Junior, though

>>32425102
I'm seeing one at least every other match, which also happened to me in February
It's the worst thing ever since I like to use fire and electric types a lot

>>32425088
Sorry, he's pretty useful. I'm using the old Gen4 199 set.

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>>32424989
>>32425088
Honestly, he's been on almost every team I've encountered in this tournament. I like Garchomp just fine, but seeing everyone fight with the same Pokemon gets dull really fast.

>>32425188
Garchomp glues teams together, fast ground types are really valuable in this meta and with a limited dex there's not much else to choose from

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>opponent has Primarina, Decidueye, A!Raichu, and Incineroar, all shiny
>"oh hey that's pretty neat--"
>Primarina is in a Dive Ball
>Decidueye is in a Premier Ball
>Incineroar is in a Dusk Ball
That's not supposed to be possible, right?

>find a nice team, has good answers against LeleBlim, standard, afk
>first match is against blizzard gastrodon and alola dugtrio
>second one against golisopod and dragonite ( nearly lost)
low ladder is HELL

>>32421184
mimikyu

>>32421184
Salazzle. She might be weak to Lele's psychic typing, but she's faster and has access to Sludge Bomb. That's how I handle Lele anyway, hasn't failed yet.

>>32425335
Poorly hacked

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I can't believe I'm actually winning with my Karenfag team at all.

LNUW-WWWW-WWW6-ZM2X

11-4 so far

Battle of the day: GNGG-WWWW-WWW6-ZJV7

>>32425340
>>32424832
Agreed, non-meta teams often catch you off-guard

So you can immediately quit and still get the stones?

>>32425569
do min 3 battles

>>32425575
I know, but can you immediately quit three times and still be able to get them early?

>>32425580
Yes

Okay, I completely forget how to actually participate. I resisted to play last week, but I completely forget how to actually start the competition.

>>32426104
>resisted
I take it you mean registered.
Festival Plaza -> Battle -> Online Competition and there you are. Make sure you do at least three battles, if you get sent to 'continue battling' your battle counts for participation.

>>32426104
>>32426116
You need to be at Battle Spot.

>>32425102
It's like the only fast, strong Ground type in this entire meta where Fire and Ground attacks are in dire severe need.

>>32426116
>>32426118

I did mean registered, but resisted works too. Thanks!

Okay, I accidentally turned off the system before saving. I did three fights. Do I have anything to worry about, or do I need to go back and do another three fights?

>>32426232
Nah, online activity is automatically saved

Is it too late to sign up?

>>32426588
Too late, registration is closed few days before the actual competition starts

>>32426626
Doesn't it close the night it starts now? I was literally battling moments after registration.

>>32426636
Ah yeah, looking at the page again, the registration is open until just before the actual battle starts

>when you lose to a good strategy rather than cheap tricks
Feels comfy, fair fights are the best.

>>32426691
fuck off those are the worst
I don't like being remembered to git gud

>>32426691
Agreed. Also I love when someone comes in and starts setting up a cheap tactic, and you disrupt it before it takes off. Or when they DO use it but you win anyway.

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Anyone seen any weird/unique strategies?
I saw one person who had A!Raticate and Passimian. The Raticate used Final Gambit, killing my Lele and passing its Hustle ability off to Passimian. Their team also had Oranguru that knew Nature Power, and a Bewear that knew Ice Punch. I'm not sure what they were trying to set up.

>>32426873
In a previous competition I fought a guy with a Lapras that had Horn Drill, Sheer Colf and Fissure.

>>32426917
ABSOLUTE

>>32425088
>>32425102
>>32425188
I'm pleasured to say I've seen 3 and managed to kill all of them - 1 I managed to beat 1-on-1 with A-Persian's Foul Play while the other 2, I OHKO'd with Bloom Doom Kartana.
I may have not prepared much for Lele, but I made sure to prepare my team a lot for Garchomp cause I knew it would be common and it is that one mon that I fear the most of having to face in battle. It is dangerous as fuck.

>>32425351
I considered putting my Salazzle on the team but I was more afraid of Garchomp and I already had 2 ground-weak mons.

>>32423350
it does count. I entered a crap team and forfeited 3 matches and got my stones eventually.

>>32424989
Don't you know

I run my Garchomp with

EQ/Outrage/D Claw/Stone Edge/Poison Jab/Fire Fang/Fire Blast/Iron Head

@Rocky Helmet/Choice Band/Choice Scarf/Yache Berry

>>32427262
>It is dangerous as fuck.
In this meta? Not really.

It's sole purpose in this whole meta is just there to screw over Arcanine without being a one trick pony.

Really it's probably the luck of being low on the ladder, once you get in a few games and have a few points be prepared for Lele stomping your shit in no matter how much you prepped for it.

Most common Tapu lower down does tend to be Koko who is more manageable.

>>32425088
Only because I hate its stupid design. He's the Lando-T of this meta. I don't care if a mon is used a lot as long as it doesn't look like shit.

>>32427342
I was playing a bit above the 1500 points when I faced those 3 Garchomp. Not very high, I guess but still not as low as the ~1400.
I insist though, I like Garchomp a lot as a pokémon but I really don't like to face one in battle.

Muddy Water never hits the slot you want, fuck this move

Damn, motherfuckers are either predicting perfectly or I am having the absolute worst luck. Now I've got tilt so I'm calling it quits.

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>losing more then winning
>only win against people who obvious are either throwing the match or don't know what they're doing

I never play doubles and man this is painful. I really hope the next one is singles. I actually did well and had alot of fun in the last one.

>>32427426
1500 is the ladder starting point, you always start off with 1500 and lose or gain from there.

Only people who hit 1400 regions are those who just started and lost their first game, those who are deliberately throwing for some reason like maybe fielding a bad team just to test in a live scenario or the total shitters who lose more than they win and are actually going into minus points.

If you are at least winning now and again like maybe a 40-50% win ratio you would constantly hover around the 1500's.

Beyond that you would hover around above 1600 if you consider yourself at least competitive/decent player probably translates to a 50-75% win ratio.

1700's are the territory of good players who could perform and you are consistently on slaughter streaks only dropping three-four games overall.

Higher 1800's is traditionally top cut territory usually enough to win these online live competitions depending on how stiff the competition is. At this level point gain is in like single digits. Hell I think the last competition was won by like 1900 pts on the dot. If you are even reaching this point you could probably have a chance top cutting in the big physical tournaments.

2000 is the realm of the gods. I can safely say you blatantly cheated or just unleashed your true power level.

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Here's the best two Arca-rapes I have, my favorite is when Garchomp is reduced to third degree burned puss.

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3AGW-WWWW-WWW6-PWCA

>>32428065
Official Singles is a literal Coin Flip: The Tournament, anyone could do well as long as the RNG likes them.

>>32427348
Uh...no that'd be Arcanine.

It's the actual glue/generic check Pokemon of this meta.

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>>32428065
>international challenge
>singles

>>32428118
I meant the super common mon that looks like shit. Arcanine at least has a better design.

>>32428123

I'm only in these for megastones. The last one was a singles competition. I normally ignore these things because they're usually doubles but "dude, mega stones lmao" and all that.

>>32428123
Not all competitions are ICs silly

>>32428175
>they're usually doubles
>when literally all of them but two have been singles competitions

>>32428184
Who said anything about other competitions?

>>32428393
read the original post again

>>32421184
I run AV Arcanine with Tapu Fini as a way of countering that lead. Make Arcanine faster than bulky Lele and fire off Snarls which make both of them hit less hard. Tapu Fini should be slower than Lele so that its terrain can go up, preventing Lele from getting the 50% boost. From there, just set up Calm Minds on the pair. As long as Lele doesn't taunt you and then immediately switch to something that threatens Fini, you're going to start off ahead pretty much every time.

>>32428076
been maintaining a roughly 1580-1620 spread more or less myself. I'm satisfied for this being my first serious VGC run.

>>32420348
Still throwing my matches.

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Just finished my 30th battle. Got fucked pretty hard today so I'm only close to 1700 but still in the 1600s.

Z2UW-WWWW-WWW6-P2DU

Got really upset turn one. After 29 battles I faced my first Drifblim team and thought this could be the moment sun doggo would finally shine. But nah. Gotta remind me Stone Edge only has a accuracy of 80% and I instantly regretted taking off its Rockium Z. But in the end everything turned out to be ok.

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>mfw I've only done 6 battles and won all 6

Surprising since my team doesn't looks that good, why are the tapus allowed though?

>>32429362
Why would they not be? They are not overpowered by any means, though they are some of the best mons in the format. Tapu Bulu sucks though

>>32423305

>Dont care if my ass gets kicked, my well thought team was fucked up because 2 mons were not allowed
>Just want to have fun and watch other's strategies
>Internet keeps fucking up and disconnecting me


I just dont want to know what people have thought of me for disconecting.

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Probably the only original non cookie cuter team I saw all the way through 1600-1700.

Heck I even saw a pseudo Drifblim team using mandibuzz for the seed trick...it was mediocre though.

>>32429414
They proboably thought you were a salty-ass faggot.

>>32429445
Mandibuzz + Lele was the OG seed core. Drifblim came later when Pokebank released to steal the spotlight.

>>32429392
Because they count as "special" pokemon imo, UBs being allowed is perfectly reasonable

>>32429495
If you count them as special, you should count the lake trio, regis and other shit legends as well.

>>32426691
>he calls things "cheap"

how does it feel to be a scrub?

hey guys remember when drampa was good lmao

>>32429526
Well they should be, just because they're shit doesn't give them an excuse to be used

>>32429615
And why shouldn't they be used? Because they have a label slapped on them that means jack shit in competitive?

NKSG-WWWW-WWW6-PWAG

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>>32429687
Because its sad to destroy them constantly with Muk

>>32429689
Looks like you had the high ground.
But in all seriousness, good job. Always happy to see people using Salazzle creatively.

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Sorry if this isn't the right place to post it, but I just wanted to share the most disgusting victory of my entire career.

6P8W-WWWW-WWW6-P4TA

>>32429549
:teamjon:

>>32425335
>>32425369
can't you get them through breeding

>>32431688
Not a chance, not even with a Ditto. Females pass down the ball, but if Ditto is bred with the male, as of this generation, the male will pass down its ball iirc.

>>32431697
>Females pass down the ball,
>Ditto is bred with the male
>as of this generation, the male will pass down its ball iirc

so you can't get a female starter?
...

>>32431746
I'm sorry, I didn't know you could get a starter in a Dive Ball from the Kahuna. Read again, you get a pokeball starter regardless of gender. It will always pass down the pokeball because that's what it has when it's given to you, it's not catchable

>>32431753
but can't you use a non ditto pokemon to pass down the pokeball you wanted then breed for a shiny?

>>32431688
>>32431746
If you're breeding two Pokemon of two different species, the baby will be the female partner's species and ball. And so far, the Alola starters are only available in the standard Poke Ball. The only time you get a 50/50 ball chance is if the two Pokemon are the same species but have a different ball.

For example:
>Breeding two Mudsdale, one in Luxury, one in Ultra. 50% chance the baby will be in a Luxury, 50% chance for Ultra.
>Breeding male Rattata, female Litten. Rattata is in a Quick Ball, Litten in a regular Poke Ball. Babies will always be Litten in a regular ball.

>>32431760
no

>>32431767
>>32431763
ok
sorry for wasting your time
please no bully pokemon S&M is the first main series game I played

>>32431760
>>32431769
I was about to get technical about it, but I'm glad this Anon >>32431763 appeared since he explained better than what I could have done. At least you learned something, I guess

>>32431769
No worries, dude. This is my second game since Yellow, I'm just catching up.

I should've just gone with Fini instead of Bulu

>>32429392
>They are not overpowered by any means
Lele is the very definition of overpowered but that has never been a factor for the ruleset.

>>32431763
>>32431769
The Master Ball and Cherish Ball (event-only) are seen as special balls and will therefore give Poké Ball offspring. So breeding a Master Ball Caterpie and a Great Ball Caterpie will make it 50/50 to get either a Poke or Great Ball Caterpie offspring.

Just did the first 4 battles (didn't feel like playing earlier), heres a short summary of every battle

1. 6 shitmon team, instant forefeit. Fair enough, not everyone is interested in playing.
2. A crappy TR team starring Shell Bell Crabominable and TR Espeon. Ended with Smeargle (Transformed into Alolan Golem) killing himself and his partner with Galvanize Explosion. Pretty funny match.
3. An in-game team repurposed into a tourney team, a quick and easy win
4. A half baked Hail Team I shitstomped with Metagross. Opponent got mad and DCed

Anyway, what is the hard limit on daily and total battles in this tourney?

>>32432928
15 per day, 3 days, 45 total.

>>32432929
Thanks
The battles go pretty quickly so maybe I'll be able to catch up

Last VGC comp I achieved 20 wins and 20 losses. This time I swapped one mon out that turned out to be useless, but the new one is also pretty useless due to the lack of Leftovers since I already used that on another mon (it'd need a change of moveset to work properly with a z-crystal).
I'm at 4 wins and 1 loss, and I'm debating whether I should continue or stop now since I'm not completely satisfied with my team and I'd like to try to beat my rank in the battle of alola (11k at 1w/0l).
I'm just scared I'll be matched up against good players and my rank will drop below 15k again.
...what do?

>>32433156
>but the new one is also pretty useless due to the lack of Leftovers since I already used that on another mon
What are they? There's only a small handful of Pokemon who actually like Leftovers, berries are almost always better healing items

To answer your question, I would just keep playing and see where you peak, that's how you get better. Unless you keep losing and going on tilt, then it might be a good time to stop.

>>32433156
I'd keep going, it's no good making major changes after a couple of battles when you dont fully understand the weaknesses of the team yet. I often find myself falling into the same trap. Thats why it's important to test on showdown until you're fully satisfied with the result.

Holy shit I just realized Japan isn't part of this competition because of the Japan Cup thing, no wonder matchmaking is ass at this time

>>32430885
Let me guess, flinchhaxed the opponent at a crucial moment with Scarf Garchomp Rock Slide

>>32433301
Yeah, i rarely have to try when im against a western player. Doesnt help that the majority is only in for the Hoenn starter stones.

>>32433228
>What are they? There's only a small handful of Pokemon who actually like Leftovers, berries are almost always better healing items
The one now holding the leftovers is Celesteela. My araquanid set has both aqua ring and leech life, which would be complemented by leftovers into a pretty shaky tank (that has won me a few battles, if I manage to get it running). It was the set I tried in my very first team. Celesteela is better for this purpose in pretty much every way. I gave my araquanid a z-crystal for liquidation but without adapting it's EVs and moveset properly it just completely falls apart.

I guess I'll try a few more battles, see how it goes.

>>32433156
Just play you pussy.

Whatever rank you get is meaningless if you don't actually learn anything. This is a free competition where you get a chance to gain experience at no cost to yourself other than a bruised ego.

You know what? If you really care about doing better you'll save a replay of every game you lose in and review them later to understand what you did wrong.

>>32432929
To add to that the total is cumulative, even if you don't use up your 15 battle daily quota your remaining allowance carries over to the next day.

>>32433313
Flichhaxed the opponent 4 times when it was the only possible way I could win because he set up and was gonna stomp me.

>>32433427
>Whatever rank you get is meaningless if you don't actually learn anything. This is a free competition where you get a chance to gain experience at no cost to yourself other than a bruised ego.
That'd be true for the regular ladder, but this is a competition, where I seek to get the best result I can with the team I have chosen. If that means quitting prematurely, that's what will be done.
>You know what? If you really care about doing better you'll save a replay of every game you lose in and review them later to understand what you did wrong.
Don't worry, just got rekt pretty hard by a pretty bulky porygon2 because I was scared it'd trick room. Saved it, will try to find a combination to beat it later.

Just played a few more battles 6w/2l total now. The lack of japs is really noticeable with the matchups. I hope I wont't fall too much.

15W 5L
Quite satisfied with this team since I didn't really into vgc (only play 4 game back in february). Using LeleBlim lead at first and end up barely use it instead I'm using Pory2+banded Snorlax more often.

I'm at 5W 2L right now, doubt I'll be continuing. I just wasn't really in a Pokemoning mood this month. Plus I made the dumbass mistake of teaching Protect to my Assvest Muk when I was adjusting my team.
Had some good fights, saw a neat combo, and am eligable for the mega stones, so I'm fine for now. I completely forgot to pick up my Steelixite and Pidgeotite before the deadline, though. Dammit.

Maybe next month I'll be in the mood.

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>tfw vgc is the only format you like but you suck at it

>finally a "decent" player at 1650 rating
>beat him 3-0 despite two awful mistakes on my part
>next battle
>"sorry, no opponent was found"
>next battle
>a team of shitmons for the Mega stone
Simply ebin

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>>32433685
A-are you this person?
Please teach me your ways s-senpai

>>32420348
So after the competition, how do you get the mega stones when available?

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Didn't do super great in this. Won maybe like 20 matches. I haven't played in years so I'm still relearning stuff, but for the most part, I lost fairly.

Anyway here's a rad moment with Dhelmise.
5TTW-WWWW-WWW6-PMSM

Also this: >>32423710

>had a fun and potentially solid team ready
>no time to play at all in the weekend
I could still binge like 10 games or so, but what's the point now?

>>32434143
To get the stones. You need to participate in at least three matches, I think.

>>32434094
A few days after, they put the code up on the Global Link site.

How many hours left?

>>32433301
Oh yeah, you're right. No wonder I didn't find any Japanese player even at their favorite hours.

Thank god, they're by far the saltiest people on earth

>>32434314
Little less than 7 (6h53m).

>>32434349
OK, thanks

>>32434159
I already played 4 (and actualy lost the last 2 to blatant flaws in my teambuilding), I guess I'll call it a day. My internet is ass and the team I'm using is not meme enough to steamroll through ladder hell.

>>32433477
Knew it. Rock Slide is my #1 most hated move in the game for that reason. It's way too easy to cheese battles you otherwise shouldn't have won. Also it somehow always misses when you use it and never misses when the opponent uses it against you.

First time i participated in one of these. Brought a rain team and i'm pretty satisfied with the results.

Couple of highlights so far:

U68G-WWWW-WWW6-PZ2H
PRXG-WWWW-WWW6-PNUT

>>32434421
Pretty much. When you use it, it always misses or never causes a flinch. When your opponent uses it, it always connects and always causes a flinch.
I honestly feel the metagame would be significantly improved just by taking away the flinch, like it was in gen 1.

>>32434451
I'd personally reduce the flinch chance to 10%. Hitting both opponents in doubles + high hit rate is already a reason good enough to run Rock Slide over Stone Edge, no need to stack anti-skill RNG bullshit on top of it.

>>32434477
That would make it more frustrating if it flinched you though. I'd just remove it completely, it has no reason to be there.

>>32433325
>Araquinad doing anything that's not CB Liquidation in the rain
Do not take it lightly. I've been running that this tournament using a rain team with Tailwind support. Even NVE hits on the bulkiest of mons are still down in two hits. It rips open so many holes and it can take quite a bit of hits too with max HP investment.

>>32434492
True, but I wanted to keep the choice between RS and SE more or less balanced, seeing as the latter also has a high crit chance.

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>mfw 199 Garchomp is still useful a decade later

fuck this shit man

>>32435175
what happened

>>32434448
>that angry porygon z in the second battle
Fuck, my sides

Also, props for using pyukumuku!

>>32435175
...anon?

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>losing to misclick
Is there any worse feeling

>>32434925
what was that set like?

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When RNG finally swings in your direction but you can't enjoy it because you know exactly how your opponent must feel.
5VVW-WWWW-WWW6-PQSV

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Holy shit Arcanine is CANCER. Fuck this shitty dog.

Not even Landorus is this annoying. At least I can just Ice Beam or HP Ice the damn genie and OHKO it. Between no special ground attackers and anything that can EQ it's ass getting intimidated the fucker in immortal, specially with those damn pinch berries healing it whenever it's about to die.

And speaking of those damn berries, who the fuck was the genies who thought introducing an objectively better Sitrus Berry and introducing many of them so that you can pretty much just ignore Item Clause? Quality game design. Fuck you Gamefreak.

>>32435552
>winning because of misclick
That's the best feeling.

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>>32435552
>>32435773
>About to lose
>Your opponent does some random shit that he should not have done giving you a chance to make a comeback instead of going for the safe play
>Win because of that
Overprediction is bad kids.

>>32435753
-1 252 Atk Garchomp Tectonic Rage (180 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Arcanine: 186-222 (94.4 - 112.6%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

>>32435753
Tbh, the healing berries are quite shit. Except maybe with gluttony, most of the time you don't even get to trigger them. Literally any other item or just leftovers is more useful.

Haven't had many problems with cancer pupper myself. Drizzle, choice scarf pelipper can quite easily ohko it, and mudsdale hits pretty hard as well. Don't have a lot of weaknesses to fire, and I usually manage to get rid of it in at most a few turns. If I somehow don't, it flare blitzes itself to death.

>>32435793
*Switches into Celesteela* or *Protects*
Pfff, nice wasted z-move nerd

>>32435829
Nice argument.

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>>32435781
>misclick, firing attack against wrong opponent
>"fuck"
>it turns out you actually mispredicted and they switch your original target out to some resistance
>actually manage to kill the misclicked target instead
>mfw

>>32435613

Garchomp @ Choice Band
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 124 HP / 44 Atk / 84 Def / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Rock Slide

This set was used to survives vs opposing Garchomp while OHKOing them aswell. Max speed to avoid speed ties.

Iron Head can be slashed with Poison Jab i suppose, since this was a dated moveset to deal with the Fairy types in X and Y.

>>32435829
I can see why you lose to Arcanine with only this post. Really makes you think, huh?

What's the craziest that actually worked team you've seen so far lads?

I got completely destroyed by this dude packing Golem-A+Trapinch. I couldn't do anything between the TR, the Trapinch trapping me and last but not least the fucking Trapinch Feinting on my Protect attempt. And the fucking Trapinch still survived because he's immune to the Electric-Explosion. Worth mention is that he also was carrying Koko for ET to boost the Explosion.

>>32435902
Battle code or it didn't happen.

>>32435902
A team based around Minimize Muk, Curse Mismagius and Psych Up Comfey. Only won thanks to the fact that Z-Moves bypass the accuracy check.

>>32436043
I love this mechanic. You at least have now more options to deal with bullshit like that.

So there's about an hour left, how are you holding up? I'm still struggling to stay above 1500s, but I somehow manage to beat a 1600 guy a bit ago.

>>32436119
Two, actually. I'm almost in the 1700s (1692) but I keep having trouble finding people since no nips are playing. I'm probably just gonna leave it here.

>>32435793
It is a testament to how frustrating it can be to kill the dog that you have to resort to a STAB Z-EQ off 130 base attack to just barely manage the kill.

Though honestly nobody uses full defense Arcanine so it is reaching for extremes. There are plenty of ways to kill the dog but they're usually predictable.

Palossand, Flygon and fucking Whiscash are the best special based Ground types in this format, Palossand isn't even that strong, 100 S.atk is terrible for something with only okay bulk and zero speed. Neither Whiscash or Flygon have any place going special since they both learn Dragon Dance.

It really is that pathetic a scenario...

It's more a problem with GF in general since even if you open up National Dex the only special ground types in the whole game are Seismitoad, Nido's, Land-I. Nobody in their right mind would give up T for I and the others only qualify because nothing else learns Earth Power without move tutors.

>>32435753
It's gets even more amusing because some of those GF'isms are everywhere this Gen.

Buff Incinerate only to 60BP -> Doesn't get stronger when it's effect activates -> Remove the TM -> Turtonator is the only thing that learns it now

Knock Off shuts down Eviolite/Berry abuse -> Only one physical attacker not horrifically weak to Fairies learns it.

>>32436119
Manage to hit high 1700's even though I started only today, don't think I'll reach 1800 as much as I'd like as it'd make me feel safer, I'm starting to drop games here and there.

>when Lele successfully Gigavolt Havoc's a Celesteela

>>32436168
The type distribution of the AlolaDex is frustrating. Between the Tapus, 3/4 of the Alolamons being shitmons with no moves and the other half of mons from other regions also being shitmons and everyone crippled with no tutors you barely have options to make something truly well rounded. I'm still livid about how there's weather setters for every weather but only about one or two abusers at most per weather.

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Team posting time?

Finished at 25 battles. Had a solid win rate throughout the whole tourney but went on a lose streak in the last 5 or so battles, so I decided to stop.

The worst by far were double Tapu teams, especially Koko+Lele. They generated a huge amount of pressure on my team and I could barely keep my own Terrain up. I really like my team in general though, it's so much fun to use.

Notable replays
CX8G-WWWW-WWW6-PSAP (the bizzare Muk/Comfey/Mismagius team i talked about here >>32436043, feel free to skip to the end after turn 10)
VT7G-WWWW-WWW6-PSB6
57GW-WWWW-WWW6-PSBD
2HAW-WWWW-WWW6-PSBT

Tfw did good second day, decent first and tilted five games day 3 before quitting
I couldnt focus at all and was making so many misplays

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11 out of 21 isn't that great , I doubt I qualify, but it is better than my previous records.
>>32436334
>I couldnt focus at all and was making so many misplays

I feel ya.

>>32436330
Fini's shaky accuracy bit you in the ass a few times, you could also stand to practice with your team a lot more.

You play extremely greedy sometimes constantly going for more Swaggers instead of switching up with a attack and make some really basic mistakes like trying to Encore A-Muk in one game and flying straight into some really obvious Protects.

Teamwise it didn't feel like Whimsicott did that much for you, most of the time it was Fini, Arcanine, Aero, Metagross doing all the legwork.

>>32436198
I hear you.

It's typical GF school of design 1 step forward followed by reversing into a pothole.

The new regional dex recycles types extremely badly instead of diversifying. What the fuck are we supposed to do with 3 slow physically strong Grass/Ghosts with no support moves or more low stat Normal types? At least the 3 Grass/Fairies come in flavours of different stat distributions.

>>32435902
Kommo-o

>>32436638
>Getting beaten by a single Kommo-o
That's pretty embarrasing anon.

>>32429445
Holy shit it might have been me that had the mandibuzz. Did it have a Fairium-z koko, milotic, and silvally? I know this is a really delayed post, but I'm super proud of how well my team flowcharts against leleblimp.

>>32435902
Got a replay of that one?

Genuinely want to see that in action.

Do we know when the mega stones are being distributed?

>>32436708
If it's anything like the others it'll be about a week.

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>>32436330
This is what I went with. The point of this team is to set up an Aurora Veil so I won't get OHKO. I pretty much just go along that line using Primarina as a wallbreaker/bulky sweeper though it's my ingame Bashful Primarina invested in HP and SpAtk fully Hyper-trained, even Attack to help the Aqua Jet, though I forgot to change Sparkling Aria for something else, cancer pup was troublesome without the Z-crystal. Comfey is there as a bulky cleric of some sort, thankfully, nobody runs Taunt in this meta.
At first I went for the Red Card-dancer memes to mess with people, but I lost many matches so I started to lead with Ninetales and Primarina which surprisingly worked well. Main weaknesses were steel, poison and Lele because it prevents priority.
Highlight, I was at a great disadvantage the entire match, but lady luck smiled upon me with a freeze

WAMW-WWWW-WWW6-PSPR

Nice team, I enjoyed watching those battles and sorry for the walltext

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>>32436330
I posted in this thread before. I used a Lycanroc team. Here's a pastebin for non-Germans: https://pastebin.com/0heNeXJ3

I overprepared for Terrain + Drifblim, yet I saw like what, 3 of those within 45 battles? It was still fun using Lycanroc though.

On Showdown I originally had HP Fire on Koko, which would've been so much more useful than HP Ice, but I had no time to get a Fire one so I had to stick with what I had. HP Fire on Lele on the other hand was absolutely worthless. It's basically the one Shoma used, but I tweakned the moves a bit.
I also used HP Fire on Gigalith, which was great on Showdown; It got a couple of kills against opposing Kartana. But I havn't used it once on cart. Well, it was worth a try.

I don't have too many vids saved, but here are the last few I have.
AT3G-WWWW-WWW6-PT8P Just saved because of that ridiculous ending
9QZW-WWWW-WWW6-PTC6 Finally got to see my Drifblim counter in action
MK9G-WWWW-WWW6-PTDW Worked ok-ish against Mandibuzz
839W-WWWW-WWW6-PTDJ This battle took forever but was one of the most fun ones to me

>>32436824
Ninetales should have been Sash. Babiri is worthless when steel attacks OHKO it even through the berry.

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>>32433989
Yep, that's me

>>32436330
Finished 21 battle, 15W 6L (actually 5L, last one is because I got dc'ed). Only entering because of mega stones but I really didn't think that I would really enjoying it.

THAG-WWWW-WWW6-PTKN
J8EG-WWWW-WWW6-ZTB2
RMEG-WWWW-WWW6-PTMG

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I used this in some championships. I was thinking of using ZRock Lycanroc for Arcanines. but changed my mind in the last second. I missplayed too much and ended 13/11

>>32437225
how good is banded lax vs belly drum lax?

>>32437534
Pretty much belly drum lax is better and I completely forgot about that but this one is quite good too

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Honestly I just kinda winged my team together at the last minute. I have a job and complicated life, so I didn't have time to put together something super great. But I got a few wins at least. I ended up almost never using Palossand or Kommo-o. Salazzle and Braviary are EV-trained, while Lele and Dhelmise weren't.

Some vids:
X&HW-WWWW-WWW6-ZAWA
ZCCW-WWWW-WWW6-ZE4A
5TTW-WWWW-WWW6-PMSM

And the video of the hacked starters I mentioned in >>32425335
3V5W-WWWW-WWW6-PUEL

I should really try this next time...so I do I get gud at doubles anyway? I can already imagine the real thing is much different from the battle tree doubles.

>>32437637
Pretty much. Focus on putting together a team that synchronizes well, that can protect or power up each other or can negate each other's weaknesses.

>>32436330
What Hidden Power have the Vikavolt?

>Lead with Kartana every time I see Alolan Ninetails in team preview
>They always lead with it
>Smart Strike OHKO before Veil is set up
So glad I decided to bring it with me this time, but I didn't feel like playing all that much.

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Here's the team I used. It's just my in game team, and Type: Null.

SK2W-WWWW-WWW6-PUZV

>>32436652
No, my Kommo-o actually did good, that's what's crazy.

so many of my battles ended stalling with tapu fini. Just imagine 35 turns fini vs mandibuzz. It was painful. i was -6 sp attack and mandibuzz was +6 attack because i kept using swagger + muddy water for accuracy drops

>>32437624
What's your Sazzle's Hidden Power? Ice?

>>32437982
Dark, actually.

How can I get good on doubles?
I just signed up for stones, but I'm bad on doubles.I got plenty fun on singles battles, though.
But I want those competitions to be more enjoyable and not just doing the three battles.

>>32437998
i usually build double teams around a gimmick. For this IC, i did it around prankster fake tears Whimsicott

>>32437998
As with any other format: Don't just jump into it blindly; watch other people play (for doubles, Cybertron is pretty much a staple, Ray Rizzo is another incredible option) to see what is going on with the meta right now and observe how they think before making an action. The good thing about the two people I mentioned is that they go through every option and talk about them in the 45 seconds they have per turn, so you can learn a lot of things from that.

Also, don't make your own teams. I know it sounds harsh and kind of wrong, but you'll never get good if you try to make something work without having the experience on the meta to understand the best course of action. Take balanced teams made by others (extremely easy now thanks to QR rentals) and play with them; since they're good teams, you might win more than you lose and you'll feel better about yourself, which is big since you don't want to lose any motivation to improve you might have.

Analyze your losses and try to see where did it go wrong and whether you could prevent it or not. Sometimes when you lose by hax, you have to look further to see if there was something you could do to prevent that possibility.

>>32420348
What are the mega stones we get for participating in this?

>>32438241
Sceptile
Blaziken
Swampert

>>32438069
I just watch a Rizzo's video and I understand what you said.
Thanks, senpai.

>>32435753
I didn't face many, I only remember one in particular, and my A-Marowak dealt with it decently. 2HKO with Bonemerang. Arcanine couldn't do much back to Marowak anyway.

>>32435902
A fuckin' Smeargle which put my Marowak to sleep, then used Transform on my Kommo-o. I OHKO the fucker with All-Out Pummeling.

Was a fairly tough competition. I ran Pheromosa, Porygon-2, Tapu Fini, garchomp, mimikyu and kartana. Playing when it started was bullshit. I saw a lot of oranguru comps and they fucked with my team pretty hard. Towards the end though I managed to climb to 1620.

How long does it take for em to tally this shit and give out the mega stones?

>>32437890
You know, I was regretting including mine cause it wasn't doing much, but it actually saved me on a battle on the last day, so I felt better about it.

>>32438805
They give the stones after one week the competition ends.

Did 5 more battles today. 4 wins, 1 loss. The first 2 wins were surprising cause I though I was going to lose since the other guys scores were in the 1600s while I was still in the 1500s and they had good teams. Managed to win though. The loss was against a Trick Room team, a very good one in fact, so it was fair. Funny enough, the very next match was against another Trick room team but the guy was clearly less experienced (a few misplays) and I was also able to stall the trick room turns.

Overall, 15 battles, 12 wins, 3 losses. Not bad, much better than what I expected.
Every mon on the team got to do something on at least one battle (though I was a bit disappointed with A-Marowak's performance).
It was definitely a good way to improve my skills.
I'll post the team in a few minutes.

>>32438866
god dammit. I want my sceptilite now :(

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>>32438882
The team.
If I could change anything, I would have given a Magnet or a Zap Plate to Tapu Koko and give the Life Orb to Kommo-o instead. It gets really weak without a power boosting item and Fightinium-Z didn't do much. Used it mostly for Porygon2 but I didn't face a single one anyway.
Kartana was the MVP of this team. Bloom Doom OHKO'ing every single Garchomp that appeared was awesome.

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Didn't get a team in time due to exams and shit, so I had to use this old one. Didn't finish my 45 battles either due to bad internet. Went 19-3 with it.

The original team was very popular months ago, and this one is my version of it. I redid most of the EVs and changed Kartana's set a little to be more consistent. It's pretty fun to use but kind of instaloses to Trick Room. P2 + Nihilego (especially if it's Scarf) instantly shuts it down, for example. Rain matchup is kinda iffy too, but you can play around it with Tailwind.

Anyway, here's the details: https://pastebin.com/PvcBX66E

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We didn't do bad, but I also didn't play much. 3-1. Nothing remarkable outside of some mean RS flinch via Scarfchomp.

Slowly but surely, I'm beginning to love the Garchomp.

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>>32439205
>What is cropping
Maybe I should go to sleep now.

>>32436548
Hey man, sorry for a late reply (fell asleep) but thats for the team feedback

I'm aware of Fini's accuracy problem. I frankly didn't test the other two water STAB options (as you noticed, I rarely play competitively this gen, leading to silly mistakes) but I always liked the extra power Hydro Pump offers.

Speaking of Swagger, I usually try to stay conservative with it's usage, but in the first battle I really needed to quickly score a OHKO on that Muk, so I was forced to keep boosting Fini's partner and hope for best. I'm glad the second Arcanine Swagger gamble paided off, dog bless the confusion nerf :DDDD

Interesting you say Whimsicott was the least useful member of my party, as I personally felt Aero was the least needed here. That said, I don't have any ideas what to replace either with. I do have a pretty big Gastrodon weakness now that I think about it...

>>32437750
Ice

>>32439228
>thats for the team feedback
thanks*

I did my required 3 matches anyone know how to get the mega stones

>>32439268
Next week the code for the stones will be available on PGL website. Just be patience

So, before this thread goes for good, I just want to say that in the end I had a good time.
I kind of expected the thread to be about as stale as with the Alola Friendly, for which I had to revive it every day, but it managed to stay alive for the entire duration and the conversation were nice.
Thanks for the good time, see you guys at the next online competition!

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>>32439692
I had fun too Anon, thread was comfy. We'll see you at the next competition, maybe they'll spice it up a little by adding special rules like in the Kanto X Alola competition.

>>32439692
I think because of the reward. Starters are popular, they are new toys for some and Blazikenite is viable, unlike the previous rewards Pidgeot and Steelix.

>>32437225
The last two battles were very good. What was your final rating?

>>32439741
>Blazikenite is viable
kek

The only relatively viable stone from this competition is Swampertite.

>>32439755
If I'm not mistaken I was at 1660-ish before dc'ed at my last match so maybe around 1650

>>32437225

>bulky drifblim

>not even tried to minimize, stockpile and baton pass with simple beam

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>>32439764
>Mega Blaziken
>not viable

>>32440148
Life Orb regular Blaziken out damages it while not wasting your mega slot.

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I know a lot of people were partecipating solely for the Mega-stones, but facing literally 0 Bulus and like 5 Primarina teams made me feel bad for this guy

>>32440696
yeah what's up with primarina? I've never seen her so many times in WCS

>>32440696
Bulu is just not as good as the other Tapus (especially Koko and Lele). I based my first VGC17 team around him and I quickly discarded it since I didn't have much fun using it.

That said I encountered around 5 Bulu teams in this tourney so it's really all down to the matchmaking.

>>32440148
This so fucking hard. LO Blaziken is superior on every sense to mega Blaziken, it's pretty much a mega latios situation, there are almost no advantages to running the mega over the base for with an LO.

I did run DD mega latios for a while, zen headbutt Earthquake and Draco Meteor can work a number vs stall/balance in 6v6.

>>32441009
Bulu needs more support than what it offers, by being the least selfish Tapu he ironically becomes the most selfish in support options needed to make his scarf or banded set work.

>>32440682
>>32441069
Final ORAS stats have 52% Blazikenite in singles and 34% in doubles, clearly LO is not objectively better, the extra bulk and speed helps more than you think

>>32440696

I used Bulu this time. Only ran into one other person using it though. Mostly saw Leles and a Koko here or there

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>>32440696
I only did 4 battles, but one guy I fought had a Bulu on his team.
That said, he didn't use it.

>>32440965
Most of the teams were in-game. Primarina is the most popular starter among contrarians because of the bullying.

>>32440696
I found a couple Bulu teams. One was a TR team with Bulk Up Bulu and the other one was Wolfey's Bulu stall team.

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>>32440696
Apparently you are not the only one thinking it's funny.
>>32441009
Bulu is still pretty decent, but lately the community has been making fun of it a lot from what I've seen. Did it not get any good result in tournaments recently?

>>32440696
>>32442020
What's weird about seeing primarina?

>>32442146
It's a worse Tapu Fini.

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Would HA Primarina be any good in VGC?

>>32442146
It's not good in VGC at all while Bulu is, so it's funny to see the former more than the latter. Of course the reason is people using their in-game teams.

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>>32442148
They serve different purposes

>>32442149
Not really. Sparkling Aria does the same thing as Liquid Voice Hyper Voice except for the burn thing.

>>32442160
In singles yes, in VGC Tapu Fini is just better in every way possible aside from doing a little less damage. You have no reason to use Primarina when Fini exists in this format.
>>32442165
Sparkling Aria hits your partner though.

>>32442149
You're better off with torrent imo unless it learns boom burst or they buff liquid voice

>>32442173
Oh, my bad then.

Doesn't Primarina learn Perish Song though? That's one niche it could have over Fini.

>>32442182
You'll be better off with Politoed at that point. Poli has Drizzle and Fini has Misty Surge which are game changers, Primarina just has Torrent.
It might have a niche once (if) Liquid Voice is released, but I'm not sure how viable it will be.

>>32442149
Probably not, but at least it would have a 100% accurate STAB that hits your two opponents instead of your partner and bypasses subs (kinda irrelevant now, though). It would be better than Torrent at least.

>>32442182
Politoed does it better.

>>32439692
Alola friendly was 3v3 singles which suck super fucking hard by default.

It's such a shame they got rid of rotation, triples and inverse battles in SM, basically limiting the number of interesting tourney formats to 1 (since they still refuse to allow singles with more than 3 mons in stock). I remember the Eevee rotation tournament last gen, it was fun as fuck despite the extremely limited pool of Pokemon.

>>32440965
>yeah what's up with primarina? I've never seen her so many times in WCS

Probably a combination of

1. Casuals entering the competition for the mega stones and using their in game teams

2. Battle Spot Singles players entering the competition for the mega stones and sticking to what they know, so they use Primarina since she is 1 out of like 10 relevant BSS mons available in the Alola Dex.

Bump because

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>Another fucking International Challenge
Remember when last gen used to have fun shit like Fairy Face-Off and the Spooky Cup?

>>32445703
>Tyranitarite, Abomasite, and Manectite
ok I guess

>>32445703

Ah for fuck sake.

Does every one of these have to be the same fucking rules. Was it like this before in the lead ups to VGC?

>>32445703
I'm doing this shit only for the stones.

Seriously they keep going full retard here.

>>32441351
Retards are retards, cost effectiveness wise many actually prefer a different mega and keep an LO wincon.

The only reason mega Blaziken is popular in that shithole is the 3v3 format.

Anyone feel like posting teams? Include w/l ratio if you want to.

Win: 6 Loss: 0

Garchomp
Rough Skin
Rocky Helmet
Jolly 252 Atk 252 Speed 4 hp
EQ
Dragon Claw
Poison Jab
Protect

Nihilego
Beast Boost
Focus Sash
Timid 252 Spatk 252 Speed 4hp
Sludge Wave
Power Gem
Thunderbolt
Stealth Rock

Gyarados
Intimidate
Normalium Z
Jolly 252 Atk 252 Speed 4 hp
Waterfall
Ice Fang
Taunt
Splash

Marowak Alola (Basically my anti-trickroom mon)
Lightning Rod
Thick Clud
Brave 252 Hp 180 Atk 76 Spdef
Flare Blitz
Shadow Bone
Bonemerang
Swords Dance

Starmie
Analytic
Life Orb
Timid 252 Spatk 252 Speed 4 def
Scald
Psyshock
Ice Beam
Rapid Spin

Porgon2(MVP)
Trace
Eviolite
Calm 4 Hp 252 def 252 spdef
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball
Toxic
Recover

I noticed that this team had a lot of problems with water types (particularly milotic who I had to rely on Garchomp and +3 Gyarados to wallbreak) and being unable to spam earthquake with garchomp becuase of 2 of my main pokemon being weak to it but it worked out fine

>>32436330
Your team is similar to mine. I ran salazzle/whimsicott/vikavolt/oranguru/garchomp/gyarados
Unfortunately the shiny vika I bred wasn't HP ice compatible but he was specs. Otherwise I learned some things about the team.

>>32420563
;_;

>>32423350
Look at your battle record on the Global Link web. There you'll see a win against the ragequitter

>>32445729
Yes because there are some players who might've just come slightly short of points after attending events and may need the last few championship points top off to qualify for worlds, rare but it happens.

Ultimately it's also a way of letting serious players gauge the state of the meta and try out teams as well as newer players practice before major live tournaments.

>>32445703
You'll get your gimmick events in the Summer during the season downtime after Worlds.

>>32442182
Politoed has less weaknesses (Poison is actually a pretty effective offensive typing now) and Encore as an option to lock down your opponents.

Plus because of Drizzle, it's going to be able to phase out passive Hail/Sand damage and technically going to hit harder than Primarina so it's got you beat on all fronts.

Really only way Primarina is ever going to be any use is if future move tutors/new egg moves are kind to it and gives it something to really distinguish itself. I wouldn't count on it though, Empolean and Samurott are still waiting on a non-ass movepool after more than a decade.

Unless they do a bizarre update like with Blastoise and have it pull out like 3-4 great new moves or HA Boomburst out of it's ass just because it can suddenly MEvo.

>>32447015
Primarina gets Encore too, but I agree on everything else.

>>32445729
Why do people complain about VGC not changing rules? Do you even know it works?

>>32447129
The complaint is about the competitions, not VGC rules. Usually we get a unique comp between the VGC ones but this is the first time they've done VGC two months in a row