Why is Primarina the least favorite SM starter?

Water types are for fags.

It's my favorite.

It's actually the most popular final form in Japan and is well received in the rest of the world.
Besides, the least favorite SM starter is still ridiculously popular and loved, so it doesn't matter if it was.

It's not. It's just the one with the least shitposting on vp.

>>32405646
Honestly I don't know what to fucking believe anymore

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>>32405646
Primarina's Pokémon Shuffle icon is really cute and adorable.

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>>32405662
>It's actually the most popular final form in Japan

Sure.

>>32405646
It wasn't made with love, it was made out of necessity

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>>32405692
Japan loves it

>>32405699
Literally what everyone thought when they saw the Decidueye plushie ;_;

Because it's plain ugly. Again, only a vocal minority of shitposters like it

My guess would be that it's because Primarina is the "girly" one like Meganium and Delphox. It's the most popular in Japan though.

>>32405722
I doubt it actually works like that though. Pokémon are never popular only in one specific region.

>>32405728
It's kinda the case here though. Japan loves pop idols and with Primarina literally being based on them they'll go crazy over it. Decidueye is also pretty popular because of the "badass" factor it has in common with Greninja. Incineroar on the other hand... literally no one but fat autistic basement dwelling weebs got the reference and most japs agree that it ruined its line.

>>32405742
Tiger mask is a fucking icon, even people outside Japan know about him, Incineroar is up there with Decidueye and behind Primarina.

>>32405742
I don't know, I doubt the case would be MUCH different in the west when it comes to final stages only.

>>32405707
just because furries want to stick their dick in it doesn't mean it's the most popular.
Decidueye and Inceroar are much more talked about and have a greater fanbase. It's popular, but the least popular of the starters.

>32405714<

Seriously think you can get a (You) that easily?

>>32405824
>Projection: The Post

>>32405824
This is just being delusional.

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>>32405824
>everyone and their mother agreed that Primarina's plush was the best looking of the three
>"O-Only furries like it!"

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>>32405824
>Decidueye
>Great fanbase

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>>32405761
No one in Japan gives a fuck about Tiger Mask, let alone wrestling anymore.
It's all about the Pop Idols now.

>>32405897
I don't disagree with you, I only disagree with this
>literally no one but fat autistic basement dwelling weebs got the reference

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Speaking of which, I just went to the Japanese website and Mimikyu seems to have the highest number of "shares" compared to the rest.
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/

>>32405897
I will never understand the appeal of idols.

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>>32405824
>Just because all the merch sold out compared to the other two doesnt mean its liked!

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>>32405824
>This whole post
Wew

>>32405824
Pushing merch is pretty much the objective success marker of a Pokemon's reception.

>>32405996
Perversion and sexual exploitation among young women.
There's actually a small documentary about it if you're interested.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NcIGBKXMOE
In the 4:00 mark they specifically talk about the more weirder side of it.

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>>32405928
If anyone's interested, here are the sales of the plushies for the first 2 times they got updated since the final forms got released.
Mimikyu is already first place which I find impressive as hell considering it was released months ago and Primarina is apparently selling incredibly well too, but not as well as it. It also costs less than half, but still.
Primarina and Mimikyu are also the only plushies that appear in the "overall" rankings, so I assume they are selling more than the rest by a decent margin.

>>32406026
I want that alolan riachu plush.

>>32406026
>Incineroar plush sold more than Rowlet plush
y tho

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>>32405897
>No one in Japan gives a fuck about Tiger Mask, let alone wrestling anymore.

I know your only experience with Japan is anime, idols and pokemon but don't be an idiot they love that shit there and wrestlers get more coverage than some flavor of the month idol groups that gets forgotten about in a month.

>>32406069
Hell Tiger Mask itself got a new anime recently too.

I wish Incineroar got the normal tiger mask colors as its shiny though.

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>>32405646
I hate you, Primarina!

My Senior Project group's video wouldn't play during our presentation today! I don't know how, but it's all your fault!

>>32405646
Because she has the same face type as those ponies everyone hates, I can't not see it

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>>32406105
Hi Guzma!

>>32406024
This could be interesting. I'm actually going to watch this so I can try to understand.

>shit-tier nonsense bait
>all these replies
All the faggots prolonging this starterwar shit need to off themselves

>>32406202
>bumping the thread

Including you? :^)

>>32406202
Shit thread evolved into proper discussion, I'm okay with it

>>32405646
Not in Japan

And we all know that's the only market they care about

>>32406069
Is that why NJPW events barely get any attendance?

>>32405646
>primarina plush completely sells out
>iincineroar and decidueye still almost full
xddd
tranny seal deniers are funny

>>32406026
vulpix would sell more if they made more
its been sold out since release

>>32406317
>Tranny seal
DELET THIS PRIMARINA IS FEMALE ONLY

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>>32405646
Honestly, I'd much rather have Primarina be less popular than the others than have the same level of shitposting as the owl and bara. I don't care about the popularity contest, I just enjoy having less-shitposty threads.

>>32405646
I don't normally want to fuck Pokemon, burt I had a dream about fucking my male Primarina. It was weird, although I didn't entirely dislike it.

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>>32405646
Is it? I knew people didn't like popplio when it first came out but I thought they got over it quickly. Anyway, its shiny form is nice imo.

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>>32406414
I wasn't a fan of the shiny at first but it really grew on me over time.

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>>32406414
I feel like a lot of the Popplio hate was LARPing, basically people trying to recreate the backlash Oshawott got due to its bad Sugimori art. The fact that websites like Kotaku wrote articles about it strengthens my belief in that.

>>32406573
I remember that when Primarina got officially revealed, literally every article regarding the starters was about how they "were wrong" about Popplio and felt sorry for judging it so quickly when it turned into something so beautiful, so you may be right.

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Daily reminder.

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>>32406630

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>>32406646
I'll bet money that those were bought by furfags so they can take them home, cut holes in them and then insert fleshlights into them.

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>>32406657
Just kids who like it probably tbhfam

>>32406630
>LOL Just remove the Decidueye and Incineroar card packs to make it look like no one likes Primarina! XD

There is something pretty creepy in seeing people defend a mon clearly built to look like an attractive woman and the fact it is based off of idols that get creeped and lusted over says a lot on its fans.

Japan likes it? Jesus I'd take that as a warning sign as to the kind of people who like it.

Time for sealcucks to get pissy at the truth.

>>32406731
Case in point: sealcucks decide they needed to immediately figure out why no one liked the precious transsexual pokemon so they began making stuff up instead of accepting maybe it wasn't immediately sold out compared to the two more normal mons.

Genuinely a bit disturbing heh.

>>32406662
That pikachu plush is totally asking for it though.

>>32406374
I mean, yeah, I see where you're coming from, but a Pokemon being more popular = more merch.

>>32406414
Popplio hating was just a meme, and mostly only ever applied here anyways.

>>32405646
I personally only don't like the tiger, but that's just me

>>32405824
>furries want to stick their dick in it
If this was the real reason, Incineroar would be sold out too, and Decidueye wouldn't be far from it.
The only reason the two are more talked about is because of the constant shitpost on 4chan

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>>32406662
NO ONE CAN SAVE IT NOW

>>32406888
Is that just a bad angle? Cause it looks like it doesn't have a snout.

>>32406731
It's literally FOUR (4) decks. The fact that people use it as genuine proof is laughable.

>>32405646
It's a horrid abomination that tries to combine a seal with a tacky fashion disaster of feminine accessories.
You can't take a design seriously when it has white mascara, huge starfish earrings, a pearl headband at the very base of the hair, maid apron frills and then some random function-less spikes around the waist all at once. How does this thing even move around, much less battle (other than firing beams and singing)?

Basically, it's too over the top and overdesigned.

>>32406630
Why the fuck are trading cards in the same aisle as art supplies ?

>>32406902
>overdesigned

Opinion discarded.

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>>32406827

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>>32406895
Yeah, also probably low resolution. It looks great.

>>32406897
he's going for the (you)'s

>>32406926
>MOOOOOM BUY ME A KYUREM BLACK ACTION FIGURE AND A MEGA LUCARIO PLUSHIE

>>32406887
Homosexuals are far less in number than normal people, retard

>>32406949
But anon, in the furry realm, there's a lot more of gay people than you might think

>>32406926
>let me ignore obvious stuff pointed out over and over again!

When will sealcucks face reality?

>>32406987
1 in 10 people are gay
thats been normal since the 60's

>>32405646
Incineroar is way less popular than Primarina or Decidueye.

>>32407097
Anon, being gay was not normal in the 60's, it was almost as bad as being a communist

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None of this would be a problem if gamefreak made Primarina's gender ratio as 50/50. That aside however, why do people insist on using a gender ratio formulated as nothing but a game mechanic to justify hate towards a pokemon? It's even more irrational when you consider the fact that primarina isn't the first feminine looking Pokemon that can also be male (loppuny anyone?)

>>32407158
Or, you know, people hate it for reasons aside from the gender ratio

No one gave a fuck about the others because they werent tacky looking like Primarina

>>32407158
I'm more disappointed that people go to such lengths and reasoning to hate on a pokemon. I would really hate to imagine someone dedicating so much of their life pooling their seething hate into anew imaginary monster they don't have to use. Of course I'm pretty sure that most people on here really don't give a shit and just say whatever they can to invoke a reaction, but hey we are on vp so.

>>32407158
It's just "le tumblr boogeyman"

>>32407179
Thank you.

Sealfags just try to hide behind the gender ratio all the god damn time when it comes to accepting criticism.

>>32407008

Yeah, he pointed out aspects of the design and complained that it was "overdesigned" just because he doesn't like it while completely being ignorant of the fact that it uses bubbles to move around. That's what's obvious from his post.

>>32407179
Some people call it ugly, I'll give that a pass since beauty is very subjective. Some call it furry bait though I'm pretty sure they're the ones fapping to it. Some call it overdesigned just because it has hair, a few pearls and a crownlike filament. Others hate it because it's cool to be part of the hate bandwagon.

I'm more or less indifferent towards Primarina because as far as I'm concerned, it's just another tool I keep in my party to fight npcs and online folk.

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>>32407179
>>32407236
>"Let's suddenly pretend the main reason people weren't flipping over Primarina was because it's a feminine starter."

What alternate reality are you two from?

>>32407277
>sealfag in denial

>>32407158
>>32407258
I'm pretty sure that there's no more than one or MAYBE two guys hating it on this thread, posting the same copy-pasta over and over. Not saying there aren't potentially hundreds and hundreds of people that dislike or even hate it on /vp/, just that they aren't as autistic and adamant as this particular person.
He has been samefagging a lot recently and it makes it so obvious that I find it hard to believe that he even hates Primarina, and probably does it just to get attention.
For these very reasons, I believe that you should not take what he says very seriously.
But this is just my prospective as a non-sealfag looking at this shit from the outside.

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>>32405646
Well, its design is not only a cold blooded betrayal of seals, it's also an insult to them. That's probably why.

Pic related, this is what Popplio's final evolution should have been. Popplio is an elephant seal, it should have evolved to resemble a true elephant seal.

>>32407725

Thank God you aren't in charge of Pokemon design.

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>>32407725
>pretends to be a seal lover
>thinks a sea lion is the same as a seal

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>>32407725
Opinions on the design aside, I honestly doubt that would have made Primarina/Popplio3 more popular.

>>32406646
>>32406662
Is Primarina guaranteed to be nerfed in Gen 8? Think about it. Primarina is the starter that Gamefreak LEAST wanted to be popular, and they most certainly didn't want it to be competitively viable. Since Primarina actually sometimes show up in doubles, Gamefreak will likely want to fix their mistake by nerfing Primarina. I am predicting a massive nerf to Primarina's Sp.Atk and Sp.Def, probably reduced to 100 and 90 respectively. Nerfing Primarina's speed to 55 might also help reduce Primarina's presence in doubles.

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>>32407778
>doubles
don't forget Primarina is great in singles too. Say what you will about Battle Spot Singles, but it's all the japs care about. They don't play 6v6 or showdown at all.
It's #31 right now above stuff like Tyranitar, Cresselia and Tapu Bulu.
I personally think they'll buff it considering the positive reception it got overall. They might also leave it as it is, though.

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>>32407778

>>32408371
bump xD
kys

>>32407778
Pretending this isn't bait, Game Freak tends to shill the fuck out of Pokémon that get popular regardless of whether it was intended. They do sometimes force popularity on certain 'mons like Lucario, but I'm sure if Primarina got really popular they'd start intentionally pushing it.

>>32408470
>not knowing how stubborn the Japanese is when it comes to their agendas
Gamefreak entered the generation with the plan to have Decidueye be the popular starter and Primarina be the unpopular starter. They're not gonna change their main game plan just because some kind of a tranny turns out to be less unpopular than they designed it to be.

>>32408497
What makes you think Primarina was meant to be unpopular? All starters are meant to be marketable, even if they push one harder than the rest.

>>32405649
Delphox is the most faggot starter tho.

>>32406938
Looks pretty cute, would buy for daughter.

>>32405646
I don't know where you got that idea. Maybe on vp, but not literally everywhere else. desu I don't like any of them though. All three of them let me down, competitively.

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I like Incineroar best by a country mile but don't understand hating on the Primarina line, or Decidueye either, for that matter.

Lycanroc is clearly meant to be the special snowflake mon which works for me and the starters all seem to be getting treated pretty equally so far in this generation's prominence, be it Primarina's surprising competitive play and Japanese love, Incineroar's line getting prominence in the anime/movies and set to shoot up in competitive play once Intimidate/move tutors happen, and Decidueye being the normie fave and with the one jewelry line for Rowlet.

Perhaps I'm just burned out by starter wars.

>>32408388

I saged.

>>32405662
>It's actually the most popular final form in Japan

True.

>And is well received in the rest of the world

Er.

Try European countries. And even then, I'm not sure. I can't honestly picture Primarina being something tremendously popular in places like US.

>>32406026
>Tiger outsells borb
>Other two final evos still outsell it

It's already a achievement he conquered over SPHERICAL.

>>32406573
>I feel like a lot of the Popplio hate was LARPing

It was, I witnessed the whole thing. Even Popp fans did this despite liking it. It was practically a meme.

Shame that even though I loved Popplio since then and now and didn't jump into the gratuitous hate bandwagon, my dislike for Primarina is pretty legit.

>>32409107
Contrarian

>>32409018
Primarina got more attention from American fans for spirit bomb memes, being furbait, and being the final evo of a starter that got a lot of hate(in the US) I guess. Their names are the same in Spanish and Italian, but this is the best indicator I can find for the starters.

Google results
>Decidueye: 924,000
>Incineroar: 657,000
>Primarina: 3,170,000

Deviantart results
>Decidueye: 3,572
>Incineroar: 2,886
>Primarina: 5,564

Youtube results
>Decidueye: 54,100
>Incineroar: 42,600
>Primarina: 37,000

>>32409324
For some reason my results for "Primarina" are different: (937.000) but still more then the other two.

>>32409331
Yeah, I was surprised when I saw it had over 3 million. Had to check it like 5 times but the number stayed around the same, Same with the others.

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>>32405692
That fucking normie, ancient ass, compressed image.

>>32406026
So, weres that one delusional fagot that kept on posting rowlet will never evolve because he's more popular then Decidueye.

Come out and show yourself you retarded Barafag.

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>A Decidueye plush that just released vs. a Rowlet plush that's been out for months and still in the top 10

>>32409575
meant for >>32409527

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>>32408497
They were pushing for Decidueye? Are they pushing for one of the final evos at all? I haven’t really seen much marketing of any of them

>>32409652
If Game Freak is smart they won't push. Incineroar's getting a boost from the M20 trailer but Primarina's surprising popularity means the supposed normie choice of Decidueye will probably be balanced out over time.

>>32409652
No, not at all. What he said is just his headcanon. If anything they knew about Primarina's popularity before, considering all the care they put into its plush.

>>32409652
Seemed like they were at first, but pretty soon after they went with a route that seemed more neutral overall. I think they might be starting to push Incineroar, what with it being a major Pokemon in the upcoming movie. Ash also received both Rowlet and Litten, and the manner in which he received each is reminiscent of Turtwig and Chimchar, at least in my opinion. I'm guessing Ash will get both Decidueye and Incineroar, but they'll push Incineroar like they did Infernape.

>>32409684
Nah, Rowlet is Piplup 2.0
>incredibly popular base form that overshadows its final evo
>merch that sells really well
>already portrayed as the cute and ditzy one of the trio in the anime

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>>32409652
Decidueye isn't here, for some reason. I thought Incineroar was gonna be the only one because of the movie, but Primarina made it in too.

>>32409724
Oh shit I didn't even realize it, you're right Anon. Damn, now I don't know if they'll keep it Rowlet or evolve it. I'll be happy either way, but I never thought of it as the Piplup. This puts an entirely new perspective into place for me.

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>>32409747
Delete this retard. Decidueye was obviously left out because he's going to get a special cameo in the movie as ASH DECIDUEYE!!!!

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>>32409666
>Incineroar is in the new movie so he's being pushed to be the shill Mon.
>>32409684

>>32409724
Rowlet is acting comedic in a comedy slice of life anime, even tho everyone other pokemon and person does the exact same things. so that means he's the new piplup of gen 7.
>>32409763
>Same guy literally talking to himself, trying to make it seem like they're more then one person agreeing to this headcanon.

>>32410545
Keep crying over getting cucked, owlfag.

Also, keep flinging samefagging accusations everywhere because heaven forbid more than one person doesn't follow what you follow.

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>>32410545
>>32410604
Watch as this Primarina h8&b8 thread becomes the fighting ground of the Cat and the Owl

>>32405646
ugly and gay

>>32409747
That jangmo-o is cute.

>>32410622
Implying it's not you trannyfags falseflagging to make us fight

>>32410604
>Only one Barafag answered.

This one response alone tells me more than anouth.

>>32408388
underage redditor found

>>32405646
I like it.

>>32405824
This is just sad.

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>>32410604
>COMEDY RELIEF OWL WILL NEVER EVOLVE, LITERALLY PIPLUP 2.0, EPISODES 8,9,10 NEVER HAPPENED.

>NU MAL OWL CAN'T FLY

>INCINEROAR IS THE NEW GRENINJA,

>MUH INCINEROAR LEAKS

>MUH EPISODE 21.
>MUH INCINEROAR IS IN THE NEW MOVIE, EVEN THO HE'S OWN BY A DIFFERENT TRAINER, HE'S STILL THE SHILL MON.

>>32405928
>Nyaby
>Asimari
>Mimicque
>McfuckingClow

AH! VERY GOOD NAMES TO NAME THE ELF MONSTER, TO TRANSLITRATE WELL

>>32411391
>>32411546
So this is how far owlcucks have fallen since the leak days.

For being the least popular, this thread got a lot of attention :O

Does anyone have that fanart of Primarina giving a large womanly belch? I think it's done by the same artist. I need it for.... reasons.

The grand majority of people find it ugly. Me included

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>Primarina thread
>it becomes another owl vs tiger shitposting thread

>>32411391
>anouth

???

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>>32411680
There is no threads on /vp/ anon
Just owl vs tiger.
You can lie and make a thread about your favorite bug pokemons.
But it turns into owl vs tiger still.
As it always will.
Sigh...

>>32411636
>Owlfags have gone full autistic.

Remember the time where the owls tried to end starter wars, and they're dying pretty much, but yesterday barafags tried to bring it back again.

And pic is related is not footage of that. It was taken before that even happened.

No matter how down we go, you barafags will always go lower,

>>32412436
Try again you delusional seal, the war is slowly coming to an end shur you may see some, but it's not much compared to early 16, it's only a matter of time until this war dies.

>>32405870
fag

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>>32411636
>fallen
>implying they had anywhere to fall from
I will never forgive the Roothoot spam.

>>32405646
From where do you get your information?
Seems, like you´re an expert for shit posting and baiting.

Just stfu.

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>>32406026
It's still second place among plushes, but it's now also in the top 4 overall

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>150 replies

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>>32415300

>>32415300
>this thread has too many replies!
>I better add one more reply to it, surely that will solve my impotent anger!
You're even worse.

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>>32415278
Nice. I expect double the shitposting because of this now to balance things out. I can't wait.

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>>32405824
Ash-Primarina when?
Ash x Primarina when?

>>32409747
>no Rockruff or Lycanroc figure
For what reason?

>>32405646
It's the ugliest.

Decidueye's design is retarded and Incineroar is bland, but Primarina is straight up repulsive.

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>>32415480
It just wasn't shown in that particular ad. The real question is what the fuck happened to Decidueye

>>32415486

t. wrong opinion

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>>32415503
This. Decidueye's design is NOT RETARDED!!!!!

>>32415495
More Incineroar figurines? Aw yeah.

>>32415521
>bow and arrow theme out of nowhere
>absurd bow mechanism that's weaker than just throwing the arrow
>the arrows are magic anyway, so the bow is even more pointless
>can't use it while flying, i.e. quadruped swords
>what does it even leaf blade with? tail feathers?
>completely arbitrary ghost type not reflected in design at all

It's retarded.

>>32406069
They even invite Mexican lucha libre wrestlers here in Japan

>>32405928
Literally there's never merchandise of this cutie in any Pokémon center I've been to. It's always sold out

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>>32411636
>Owls being autistic fags

Please do explain.

>>32416980
Thanks for the repeated bumps, they are very appreceated! xD

>>32405707
I am literally Japan, I love everything they love and hate everything they hate.

>>32406069
>wrestlers are popular in Japan
>Incineroar is still the least popular starter in Japan
thanks for really making me think