/swg/- Starter wars general

first for seal

>>32333333

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dabbing to this thread

>>32334369
Daily reminder that Greninja is the reason why all other 2010s starters will never be better than ok, except for maybe Serperior since apparently it has a niche in OU or some shit.

>>32334582
>all other 2010s starters will never be better than ok
You realize this applies to all non-mega starters without amazing HAs like Speed Boost/Contrary/Protean, right?

>>32334582
>being this close to dismissing Serperior
>acting like you know anything about competitive

>>32334607
This. Decidueye and Primarina are already better than most starters barring the already absurd OU and Ubers ones, and Incineroar will definitely rise (especially in doubles) once its HA is released.

Alola's starters got off really well.

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>>32334561
>Posting the owl
>Dab xd

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>>32334694
But dabbing owl is why OP's pic exists

>>32334662
>implying i know anything about competitive

vinesore is best kanto
prove me wrong

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>>32334719
It shouldn't exist, then.

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>>32334752
What about this?

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>>32334771
>image.jpg
You have to go back.

>>32334681
>70 speed for no good reason.

>Frail even with 100 special defense.

>Weak to knockoff And sucker punch, and any powerful super effective physical moves.

>Gets two shot by any neutral moves.

>Not fast anouth to at least get a hit before it falls.

Ya, All of them got thread fairly hu.

Ash-Primarina When?

>>32335287
>bad grammer anon finally admitting how terrible Decidueye is
Nice

Make me stop hating incineroar primarina and dicideye and typhlosion and charizard and blastoise also venusaur and torterra and torterra and empoleon. I also hate gen 4 and 5 and 6 starters all the starters are shit. Even pikachu in yellow that game shills starters so much its fugging disgusting. Its like gf wants you to like them just because they are your first.

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>>32335374
decidueye and blaze ken are in love

>>32334369
I feel like this bullshit is like the Speed tier shit.

Decidueyefags are so sure their starter will be a neo-Greninja, only to get BTFO. Then Incineroarfags automatically assume their starter will get the competitive viability, but they also proceed to get BTFO.

I feel like this scenario, in one way or another, will simply repeat itself with the shillmon war.

If only you fuckfaces could stop jumping to conclusions and forcing your assumptions to be objective fact, maybe you could save yourselves the embarrassment.

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>>32335440
k

>>32335444
Are owlbros just blessed?

>>32335440
>Caring about what some retards on a chinese dog-eating board think about your favorite fictional animal's fans

Holy shit have sex immediately

I don't give a single shit, I just want to have fun and cause starter wars

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>>32334369
>Based el Tigre will be the shill mon of this gen

Feels good

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Was this the highest peak for grass starters?

>>32335738
Yes. Unfortunately they gradually got shittier since then

>>32335287
Damn it anon, you were supposed to mention the unnecessarily high special attack.

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>>32334369

How did these starter wars even begin? In the XY days it wasn't that bad but all of a sudden everyone is loosing their minds.

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Haha XD

>>32334369
You people keep arguing about the starters, It seems you haven't realized the actual shill mon of this gen is Top Kek.

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why do we need to go to war over this
all starters are good

>>32336206
Because Greninja shilling and all three Alola starters getting cucked statwise or HAwise happened.

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>>32334681
This. People act like they are shitmon when they are definitely above average. I can't wait for move tutors, hopefully they improve all three of them. Just because they aren't stupid broken like Greninja, it doesn't mean they "made them shit on purpose and want to shill it more". They are just well balanced, like starters are supposed to be.

>>32334771

Where did this particular crop came from? Just interested since it looks vaguely 3D-ish. Some TCG art?

>>32336339
Where's the Tapu Koko song that was released before the game?

>starter wars now get a containment thread

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>>32334369

>>32337606
>People trying to make containment threads for starter wars when starter wars are pretty much scattered everywhere, in and outside the thread regardless of how they start the thread

Why can't mods just do a sticky'd starter war general thread? At least that way, it'd guarantee that anyone who opposes to it gets the ban hammer. I'm not saying starter wars should be promoted, but if we're going to live with them, might as well make a contained thread that obliges people to shitpost there.

Starter wars will never really end desu as much I'd like them to

>>32335452
Kek this

Peacefags btfo

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>>32335452
>>32337723
>When people want to strive for peaceful boards but shitheads like these exist in order to make you feel bad about ever wanting people to just get along for once in their pitiful lives and properly discuss things instead of "lol have fun and cause starter wars" which basically leaves us with even more shitposting and unneeded wars just because someone thinks it's amusing

I also really doubt the first dude ever had sex, otherwise, he wouldn't be on a chinese dog-eating board shitposting in his free time but to each, their own.

>>32336475

>owlfugs somehow are not complaining at blastoise ect.

this really makes you think...

to be honest, all starters are fucking shit when it comes to stats

>>32337763
>I also really doubt the first dude ever had sex, otherwise, he wouldn't be on a chinese dog-eating board shitposting in his free time

Why not? Plenty of people who have had sex are still complete shitheads. Not sure how caring about the reputation of a Pokemon's fanbase correlates to losing your virginity either haha.

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>>32337539
Just tcg promotional art

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reminder that the Rowlet line is the most popular everywhere

>>32339347
>rock and water dogs are 7 and 8
Cute!
>No Incineroar
boo...

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>>32339347
good for them

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>>32339347
Cheers

>>32339347

As a owl fag, I really don't think people should judge a starter's line by merchandising alone, but eh.

Mimikyuu's not really a favorite of mine, but good on the little guy having his keychain sold the most.

And I wish I could have a wallpaper version of 5th place.

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>>32335738
No.

>>32339580
>As a owl fag, I really don't think people should judge a starter's line by merchandising alone
Yeah, no shit. Popularity of any Pokemon should have no effect on your impression, unless you're a contrarian faggot.

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How do footfags feel about Decidueye?

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>>32339347
>reminder that Rowlet is the most popular first-stage starter everywhere

Fixed that for you. Rowlet itself may be popular, but it's final evolution is a complete joke. Owlfags BTFO

>>32340156

Looking kinda choppy there, Tony.

>>32339610

Oh, noticed I forgot to add 'popularity' after "starter's line", making it" I really don't think people should judge a starter's line popularity by merchandising alone". Talk about a misfire there.

Because just because a line might have the most merch bought, doesn't mean it's the most popular one because we're not entirely sure of their proper place and tastes vary by region/country.

>>32340202
Merchandise is the second best way to judge the popularity of anything, the first best being just a poll. The only problem with this would be cost difference. For example, Mimikyu is much cheaper than Rowlet line, and Lillie card is the most expensive one. But the cost the is the same for all three starters, so this doesn't apply here.

>tastes vary by region/country
Just what? Name one Pokemon that is popular in just Japan and no one gives a shit about it anywhere else. I could understand this sort of thing varying if a story or character was involved, as those things are influenced by culture. But the things people find cool or cute in looks alone? They're pretty much the same universally.

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>>32340253
Can't wait to see the sales for these

>>32340265
Why wait? We all know it'll be Primarina >>> Incineroar > Decidueye.
Primarina plush is almost perfect.
Incineroar is Incineroar, just without the wrists, as they're pretty much impossible to make on a plush.
Decidueye is shit of lowest quality, to the point it can't even be called a Pokemon.

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>>32340285
But pic related looks bad and it sold out in stores within an hour

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rare unedited footage of a gijinka incineroar

>>32340285
Just like the Primarina keychain here is shit >>32339347 and may have sold less because of that.

>>32340299
No, it doesn't. I would buy this. I wouldn't touch either of those two. Especially Decidueye. I wouldn't look in its general direction.

>>32340305
Not even close. You might not like that pose, but there is nothing inherently wrong with it. Unlike the owl plush. It is actually lacks a few features, and what it has looks absolutely shit, like the wings.

>>32340305
I like the keychain tbqh

Decidueye's looks like shit too honestly, another possible factor is that people could have bought the set just for Rowlet.

>>32340321
>>32340323
Oh, believe me, you may not see it but it looks pretty bad upclose. The eyes are all fucked up. I would have bought it if it wasn't for that. Point is, quality does play a factor. Although >>32340299 proves that maybe it's not that important.

>>32340285

The things I'd argue bad about the Decidueye plush as a whole (instead of just downright calling it shit) is the way how the wings were made, they clearly did not know what to do here, the shape of the hood itself (I might not be sure here) and the pose itself clearly didn't lend any favors (look at Incineroar and Primarina and how they're simply looking straight).

Why the wings may look like that and he has that pose? I think I might actually know why; because they might be able to be positioned, along with perhaps its head, which explains the feathers' look. I'm not entirely sure though.

also kek at Incineroar's literal bulgy chest.

>>32340338
No, you're the one with fucked up eyes here. What exactly is so bad about it? Does it lack some features, like the owl plush lacks the feather? Does some of its features are just off model, like the hood or the wings with wrinkles? If not, then there's nothing wrong with it, you just don't like the pose. If it was actually bad, it wouldn't be in top 10, while Incineroar isn't.

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>>32340338
Believe me, I've wanted the set for a while so I've looked at it long enough to decide that I like it. I think you're exaggerating a bit, the eyes aren't that terrible, and what flaws they do have don't really ruin the quality as a whole.

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>>32340378
I find the pose to be lovely; the eyes are missing the pink flecks and look a bit devoid of life. Maybe it's just for the pics I saw though, as it looks much better here >>32340399
Not perfect but I would buy it seeing it like that, yeah.

>>32340378
>Like the owl plush lacks the feather?

why are people jumping into this conclusion when there's a thing called perspective that might be playing a trick in all of us by the feather possibly being hidden behind its head?

>>32340438
Because they don't see it? It MIGHT be hidden, but the plush MIGHT also look gorgeous in certain angle.

>>32340438
Another problem is that you're not even gonna see Decidueye's face from any angle that is not straight up-front, as it's almost completely covered by the hood. Even if there is a feather, it might as well just not be there at all at that point.

>>32334582
How are we defining 2010s starters? Empoleon and Infernape have very good niches in higher tiers, for example, but only recently

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Plush of pic related when!!

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>>32340521
Never, because it won't exist.

>>32340547
That looks fucking terrible

>>32340516
>How are we defining 2010s starters?
>How are we defining 2010s starters?
>How are we defining 2010s starters?

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>>32340521
>>32340547

Why would anyone want either of them is beyond me

>>32339347
I'd find it absolutely hilarious if this bickering went on for the rest of the generation, and yet ultimately Mimikyu is the chosen one to represent Sun and Moon in Smash Bros.

>>32339599
>Sceptile
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>32340285
>Careing about what plushies look like.

People will buy plushies regardless if they're made Terable or not. Especially when it's a plush made officially from there respective company.

Just like Lycanrock midday,
Decidueye plushie is ugly AF but people will still buy it over the incineroar or primarena one.

It's like having a ugly pikachu plush and a perfectly made riachu one. Wich one do you think the kid is going to buy more.

>>32340299
See this guy knows.

>>32340516
They didn't come out in the 2010s, now did they?

I didn't realize it was possible to be this retarded

>>32342369
It's DEFINITELY possible to be that retarded. Have you seen the grammar of the post above yours?

Leav the sun and moon anime to me.

You're a bad trainer if you hate any Pokemon. You should want to be friends with all the Pokemon!

...Except Tapu Fini. Cunt was fucking annoying as hell to catch

>>32344761
I'm wondering if I should pit that thing against a Maractus with one of its Water-type absorption abilities to take care of Hydro Pump, but that doesn't deal with Aqua Ring.

>>32334561
The wings on this cosplay with mediocre craftmanship look better than the actual wings on this thing.

>>32344879
Honestly if you haven't used the Master Ball, just use it on Tapu Fini. It's constant healing makes it really annoying

>>32335295
It's a kids game.

>>32339347
Reminder that you all are just specks of dust compared to mimikyu

All the starters fan bases this gen are shit

Barafags are the most shit of the three

Hey owlbros please rate my Decidueye set

Bold nature
Item: Leftovers
EVs: 252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 SpAtk
-Nasty Plot
-Shadow Ball
-Rest
-Sleep talk

>>32335738


>What is Venusaur?

>>32346245
It's verlis teir garbage and you should be ashamed for creating it.

>>32346245

You want Deciudeye to do the offensive work of Mismagius.

>>32346245
>one attack
>from a type with a common immunity

Better off doing Swords Dance Leaf Blade, and that's still shit.

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>>32339347
>mimikyu is number one

as it should be

>>32334582
Don't ALL starters have a "niche" use in OU? I mean, even Emboar has a niche.

>>32334694
>>32335689
I AM PROUD TO BE A BARAFAG! WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M NOT AN OWLKEK! I'm a barafag and decidueye is ugly. Sue me

>>32340156
Agreed. Owlfags are a joke

OFFICIAL STARTER POKEMON RANKING LIST ACCORDING TO ANON:
(Guaranteed to trigger plebs with shit taste)

Elder God Tier:
>Empoleon

God Tier:
>Venusaur
>Torterra
>Decidueye

High Tier:
>Meganium
>Sceptile
>Infernape
>Delphox
>Greninja

Mid Tier:
>Charizard
>Blaziken
>Blastoise
>Swampert
>Samurott
>Primarina

Low Tier:
>Serperior
>Typhlosion
>Emboar
>Feraligatr

Bottom Tier:
>Chesnaught
>Incineroar

Barafags are free to leave at any moment.

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>>32340547
>Barafags actually believe incineroar Will be the shill Mon.

What ever helps you sleep at night barafags.

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>>32349221
>Owlcuck thinks decidueye will be the shill mon of this gen.

Say if with me COMEDY

>>32348569
I don't know. I was just looking at the grades Smogon listed for OU and Serperior was at C or something.

>>32349454
Serperior is B+ rank in OU right now

this is all a joke right

>>32349980
die barafag

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>>32349985

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Why is he the only Alola starter that gets fursuits?

>>32350623
I saw a WIP Incineroar head the other day.

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bump

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>>32349417
>Comedy

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>>32349417
>Shill mon.

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>>32353059
>>32353071
>BARUUN!

>>32334694
Agreed. Edgy Owlcucks should hang themselves

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NOW YOU'VE FUCKING DONE IT
THIS IS THE END, THERE'S NO SALVATION
I FUCKING HATE ALL THE ALOLA STARTERS
YOU REALLY THINK THIS STARTERWAR BULLSHIT'S FUNNY, HUH?
WELL NOW IT'S FUCKING OVER THIS IS THE END
I'M GONNA NUKE THIS FUCKING THREAD
AFTER THAT I'M GONNA NUKE THE FUCKING BOARD ITSELF
I FUCKING HATE ALL OF YOU, DIE
JUST FUCKING DIE IN A FIRE
I'M GONNA SELL THIS EMPTY BOARD TO THE GOVERNMENT SO THEY CAN MAKE GOOD BOARDS AGAIN
PREPARE FOR THE END

I'M JUST SO FUCKING DONE
EVERY DAY JUST "BARAFAG HERE, OWLFAG THERE, SEALFAG EVERYWHERE" BUT I'LL END IT NOW
THE FUCKING END HAS COME THANKS TO YOU, THIS IS IT, THERE IS NO GOING BACK NOW, ACCEPT YOUR FATE
lol you're all just falseflagging Barafags trying to make us Owlbros look bad amirite? upboat that shit for copypasta material XDDDD

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>>32353163
subscribed

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Why is Incineroar so hot?

>>32340299
Yea right Owlcuck, No way an autistic school shooter owl sold out that fast, a plush of that quality deserves to be burned.
It'll be Incineroar = Primarina > decidueye

>>32340521
Nice deviant art drawing,
OWLFAG

>>32353178
Because he's part fire type, anon.

>>32346205
No owlfags are. There are Ash decidueye fan fictions and Ash x decidueye and even vore of it deviantart

>>32349221
And YOU think edgy-owl will be?????? In your wet owl dreams

>>32349417
COMEDY

>>32335287
Don't forget:

>100 base special attack stat, but almost no special attacks to use it with

Say what you want about Incineroar and Primarina, at least their best attacking stats support that same type of movepool they belong to. Decidueye's 100 base special attack is fucking useless.

>>32335689
the shillmon for this gen and every gen will forever be Pikachu.

>>32334369
You owlfags are fucking retarded. When decidueye was confirmed and the moves and stats were leaked through the datamine, Owlcucks were saying it was going to be Uber no question asked, even after seeing the stats. Then, you create this retarded "royal theory" that of course got it all wrong. Then, ash caught litten, and now all owlfags are having a fucking seizure because you guys are afraid he will be the shillmon, which he will be. Now, you create some stupid wormhole theory about cross, in attempts to keep the owlfag community believing that Comedy relief owl will be the "Shillmon!" You owlcucks will never learn, will you?

>>32346245
This is a joke, right? Like a Verlis parody?

>>32346245
Thanks dude gonna use it in Ubers now

>>32353277
Sadly, no. The owlfags have become so dumb it's making the community look like a joke

>>32353285
>Decidueye
>Ubers
> B- in UU
Kek

>>32353310
Yes special Decidueye is fucking OP in Ubers. Gonna use 6 of them right now.

>>32353302
Never mind, I realized it was a parody once I saw it not only had only one special attack, but only 4 points invested in its Sp.atk stat.

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Hey guys. This owl's pretty fuckin' cool.

I like it. I wanna give it a hug. How are y'all enjoying your starters? I hope you are. They seem pretty cool, too

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>>32353260
Keep telling yourself that.

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>>32353273
>Nice autobiography barafag.

>>32353273
Fuck off.

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>>32353348
I'm enjoying them a lot, anon. That owl melts my heart with its cuteness.

>>32353645
My icy heart is also melted with splendor of the mermaid pokemon.

(seriously, is it wrong if I just like all the starters? It's sad that everyone is fighting over it when you can easily enjoy them all)

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>>32353663
No one is allowed to like stuff I don't like. Because my opinions are objective and if you don't agree with them you deserve the worst death imagineable. Also stop liking shitty starters like Trannyrina and Shitcinefur.

>>32353679
dumb frogposter
you're supposed to use Greninja and insult the other Kalos starters

>>32353685
That's boring and pointless, because there's literally nobody in the entire world who likes these two shitmons.

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In truth, I dislike every starter. In fact, I injected a Snover as my SM starter.

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>>32353710
When will owlcucks get off my board? They're as bad as the pedofags.

>>32353961
This was meant for >>32353603
Sorry snover bro>>32353710

>>32353961
POPPLIO PUT THE GUN DOWN WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH DECIDUEYE ALREADY

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>>32353971
It's okay, my nigga.

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>>32353603
>>32353961
>>32353972
I'LL SHOOT EVERY INFERIOR STARTER THAT DOESN'T GET OUT OF MY FRANCHISE RIGHT NOW REEEEEEEEE

>>32353961
Put the gun down Popplio. It's gonna be okay, please don't do anything you will regret.

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>>32353989

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>>32353961
>>32353972
>>32354032

:^)

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>>32354121
POOPLIIIOOOOOOOO

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pop quiz

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>>32354825
Poor birb

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>>32354121

_______:^)

>>32353235
Decidueye's attack is 107, retard. He's clearly a physical attacker.

bampu

>>32354873
What's the whole picture?

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>>32334369
Incineroar is gonna be so great with intimidate, gonna be the next best thing in VGC and gonna be a top tier threat in singles

>>32359970
>top tier threat in singles
nah

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Cutest Starter Incoming

>>32360014
disgusting

>>32359970
In battle spot yes, but in Smogon singles intimidate isn't gonna be enough sadly. Still he will be a super interesting Pokemon to use in doubles once he gets that ability, and he will be straight unstoppable in battle royals, not that anyone else still has fun with that.

>>32360047
>Poor man's Arcanine
>unstoppable or viable in any metas even with Intimidate
Dream harder barafag.

>>32360056
>bulkier and stronger
>dark stab
>will inevitably get new moves from move tutor

If move tutor gives Incineroar fire lash, it'll be on par with Arcanine.

>>32359970
Too bad it'll get it by Gen 10, and by that time the powercreep will be so far up its ass that RU would become the new OU.

>>32360056
It has enough of a niche to set it apart in doubles. It'll depend on what your team needs.

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COMEDY RELIEF KITTEN

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Reminder that gamefreak doesn't know how to design pokemon anymore and should hire real artists like pic related

>>32360975
Those are terrible.

>>32361080
More terrible than the literal piles of shit we already got?

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This thread is officially useless.