Why are these blatant shitmons OU on smogon right now?

>shitmons
>Doesn't understand these mons ability/potential
You need to be 18 for this website kiddo

>>32330648
Alolan Muk isn't a shitmon. The typing is great, stab knock off is GOAT, Persuit fucks Lele in the ass and if you really want to be gimmicky you can use it with minimize. Alolan Marowak is just used as a check for the UBs, its relevance is decreasing a bit though because of the Pheromosa ban and the potential drops of Buzzwole and Xurkitree. As long as Kartana remains in OU though it will remain a relevant check UBs.

>>32330679

>weee i can copy paste smogon

>>32330674
>both are slow
>marowak is frail
>muk has only passable bulk, but no recovery and a mediocre attack

>>32330648
1) March stats haven't come out yet (and probably won't due to a server fuckup)
2) Pheromosa was only banned a couple of days ago, give it some time

>>32330648
It's amazing how much a simple type change can do for some mons

Change Avalugg to a pure Steel type and it shoots up from PU to OU in an instant

>>32330733
t. 1100 elo

>>32330733
lolno

>>32330744
lolyes

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>>32330648
Because people use them enough for them to be considered OverUsed.

>>32330708
Minimize is banned in smogon, soooo....

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>>32330708
More like he plays the format relevant to the thread

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marowak is
>immune to fighting (rip pheramosa)
>x4 resistance to bug (rip leech life)
>resists steel (rip kartana)
>thick club makes the max attack 568
>rock head STAB flare blitz (rip steel types)
>lightning immunity (rip tapu koko)
>signature physical ghost move that has the highest bst of any non-z move non-phantom force ghost move

and muk
>STAB pursuit
>STAB knock off
>shadow sneak
>STAB gunk shot (rip tapus)
>already tanky, with poa acquiring levitate so no weaknesses, with assault vest because no recovery moves anyway

>>32330769
OU = the best of the best.
These are NU material

>>32330811
No. OU is based on usage and only usage.
If everyone got together and decided to use luvdisc on all their teams, it would be OU.

>>32330713
>Marowak is frail
So is Pheromosa, so what's your point?

>>32330827
If OU was usage only it wouldn't be a ban list. Shit like Alomola and Mandibuzz would have been banned to the upper tiers

>>32330833
>Pheramosa is frail with 151 base speed
>Marowak is frail with 45 base speed

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>>32330827
I remember reading that they filter usage statistics.
They've a list of things to check for before it's logged (NFE w/o Eviolite doesn't get logged iirc)

>>32330839
Yes, I agree there shouldn't be ban list. But that doesn't change the fact that tiers are still primarily and mostly based on usage.

>I don't understand how mons can be viable without garchomp-esque stats and everyone that tries to explain it to me is an idiot that I have to mock

Summer started early here huh.

>>32330907
spring break bro

>>32330907
It's been summer on /vp/ since S&M were released.

I mean, this board has literally always been bad, but it's gotten noticeably dumber since then.

>>32330850
>60/110/80 bulk with 7 resistances and 3 immunities is """frail"""

ok retard

>>32330973
for OU's power creep yes
plus
>no leftovers

>>32331017
and yet it counters most of the UBs which babies like you are forever complaining about being power creep. and it does it with no leftovers. that's a bit contradicting isn't it, for something you're arguing is a frail shitmon?

>>32330648
>wah it's not garchomp

>people think OU is the best of the best
>when in reality there are two tiers above it
>one with an actual banlist

When will this meme end?

>>32330806
OU chandelure when? it deserved shadow tag

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OU is the only tier they'd be good in because it's full of pokemon who they are conveniently good against.

Muk and Marowak would struggle in UU. Prove me wrong.

marowak fucks stall in the ass

>>32331688
>shadow tag
hello Ubers

>>32331017
>leftovers
>when you KO anything that doesn't KO you back

>>32331704
muk was already considered good in uu before it moved to ou a few months back. and marowak is just a physical chandelure that trades speed for more power, bulk and an electric immunity. chandelure is uu btw. so work it out for yourself numbnuts.

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>>32331688
Keep it on an utter shitmon. Gothitelle is horrifically bad, but it would wreck OU with Shadow Tag.

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>>32331017
>Leftovers
>Marowak

At least try anon. What's with this weak-ass bait?

>>32331793
Goth isn't THAT bad
It's a defensive pokemon (70/95/110) with an admittedly shitty typing

>Marowak potentially has more than 150 base attack, 3 immunities, good support options, near unresisted STAB coverage with great moves, decent bulk and enough coverage to hit anything for neutral or SE damage.
>it's not a pseudo or a legendary so retards like OP think it's a shitmon
epic

>>32330733
>"Shuckle used Hidden Power Fire!"