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FIX THAT SHITMON!

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How on earth was pressure the best ability they could come up with? I mean come the fuck on.
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queenly majesty and a type change

bug/flying is awful
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>>32286120
Bug/Dark maybe?

As in "evil queen"?
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i say bug/psychic would fit the whole hivemind gimmick they have going on
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>>32286120
sneaky pebbles
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>>32286104

Diamond and pearl remakes coming. Hopefully she'll get some buff.

Honey gather should be turned into an automatic leftovers effect.

New signature move "swarm order" acts as a spikes equivalent, or maybe a bug type stealth rock (which would suck kind of suck)

Bug/poison or bug/fairy or just pure bug would both be better types
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>>32286123

>evil queen

How is she evil? Coz shes a stingy bee?
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>40 speed

Not sure how to fix this
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Let's be honest, they aren't going to change the type unless it gets a mega. But what mega could possibly be good enough to justify the loss of leftovers
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>>32286136

defensive mons don't necessarily need speed, but it has tailwind I guess.

It would be nice for fast roosts to lose ice/electric/rock weakness, and fast destiny bond
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>>32286149
Can't say i'd call it defensive with that typing
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>>32286104
>Bug/Steel
>Learns Iron Head, Flash Cannon, the usual steel type moves.
>Ability changed to Levitate to represent it flying.

What tier is this bitch now?
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>>32286134
she's a bee-otch
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increase bst to 500 from 474
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>>32286104
How do we fix him?
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>>32286182
Wonder Guard + Balloon
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>>32286182
More bulk and a decent recovery move.
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>>32286182
>bug and water 3
>learns no water atttacks
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>>32286332
aqua tail by tutor and rain dance by tm
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>>32286332
>learns no water attacks
>What is Aqua Tail
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I have 2 ideas

Idea 1: Electric/Dark physical attacker with Reckless or Strong Jaw. Just an improved Luxray

Idea 2: Electric/Poison manticore Mega Evolution with Levitate. Boosts in Attack, Speed, Sp. Defense, and Sp. Atk if needed. Increases moves that go off it's higher Attack, such as Poison Tail. The levitate represents the wings of a manticore and also means it's only weak to psychic attacks
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>>32286372
by tutor not by levelling up, it should get some water moves at least
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>>32286182
>Citizen Snips
>shitmon
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>>32286140
She has Roost and Heal Order desu
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>>32286442
>Electric/Dark

>Concept is literally the exact opposite of darkness
>let's make it a dark type

Who inflicted this blight of a meme upon the world?
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>>32286941
Citizen Snips is an awful meme set
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>>32286953
>>32286442

>it's black so it's dark type
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>>32286953
>>32286973

X-Rays are pretty dark.

Really it's just so it can get STAB Crunch and a wider pool of physical moves
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>>32286442
I have an idea

>Zing Zap isn't a signature anymore, and all Electric mons have access to it
>Wild charge is now 110 BP
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>>32286133
>Unique move that allows her to summon a Combee similar to a totem pokemon
>the combee is half the Vespiquen's level and only knows Gust
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>>32286120
Queenly Majesty doesn't help though. Magic Guard would be more useful and sorta not so farfetched (she's the queen so she has this magical aura about her). As for typing I'd say make it pure bug. No other type makes much sense although maybe slapping Fairy could work.
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>>32287106
I love this one but how could that work on doubles?
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>>32286961
NO SHUT UP SNIPS IS THE BEST
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>>32286166
>Bug/Steel
Enough of this shit.
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Someone please fix my favourite mon?
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>>32287467
it needs an evolution, and it needs that evolution to get a mega, and it needs that Mega to get Strong Jaw or Tough Claws or something

Barring that it is literally just a bad Absol, which itself is a bad Weavile
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>>32287485
Seconding this
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>>32287467
best dark type...but what's with it's head?
>420 bst

...uhh min max as heck to 480

70 >
90 > 113(23)
70
60
60
70 >107(37)

Turn quick feet into sheer force

How's that?
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>>32287406
What type should it be if not Bug/Steel?
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How do we fix my favorite ghost?
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>>32287542
The only ones that really make any form of sense are:
>Bug
Its just a bug after all
>Bug/Poison
Bees sting
>Bug/Fairy
From the Queenly aspect

Nothing else really fits well. Also we dont want all good bug pokemon having to be bug steel.
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>>32286104
It was gen 4. They didn't make any attempt to do interesting abilities. Look at the legendary Pokemon.
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There's no fixing anything unless GF actually do a large scale stats rebalance for give or take 80% of pokemon
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>>32287257
Day Dog:
>Steadfast changes to either Strong Jaw or Tough Claws
>Add Ice Fang to egg moves

Night Dog:
>Vital Spirit either changes to Sheer Force, Sturdy or Tough Claws
>Change signature move from Counter to Metal Burst
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>>32287560
higher hp
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>>32287591
>vital spirit

Why not keen eye? No guard already invalidates its existence completely
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Hey it's good in the tcg atleast
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>>32287629
It already shares Keen Eye with the Day form and I wanted to keep some symmetry, but you're otherwise right
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Well, in the soon DiaPer remakes she's gonna have a mega evo and a new signature ability.
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>>32287467
movie's already a good ability, its just the stats that are lacking. maybe giving it pursuit to start a moxie snowball will help. but it'll still probably be pu.
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>>32287560
>ghost/fairy

done.
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>>32287591
Just give night head smash...That's literally all I want.
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>>32287485
You really don't know what you're talking about.

It's funny how you try to make it sound like you do.
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>>32287568
Nah dog.

Bug/Psychic. Hive mind.
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HEAD SMASH
BRAVE BIRD
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>>32287591
Or better yet- GIVE NIGHTDOGE ACCELEROCK
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>>32287791
>Aerodactyl
>shitmon
Can you imagine Mega Aero running Brave Bird and/or Head Smash?
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>>32287568
>>32287790
Honestly I prefer Bug/Fairy Vespiquen over Bug/Psychic because that Knock Off Weakness would make it arguably even worse off.
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>>32287817
Humorously I don't care about accelerock anymore when night dog has 100 accuracy stone edges and rock slides. The fact that an attack many rock types would appreciate much more is locked to day dog is asinine as heck though.
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More speed, some priority, actual bulk, literally ANYTHING would help make this Pokemon not be complete shit.
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>>32287827
non-megadactyl is pretty shitty
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>>32287827

Mega Aero looks like shit though. Easily the worst mega of them all aesthetically.
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New ability
>Royal Presence (or some shit like that)
>Upon entering, the weilder's minions clear any hazards from the field to make way for their monarch.
New moves/Changes
>Defend/Attack/Heal order applies to all Pokémon on the enemy team in doubles, or both on your team in doubles.
>Call to Arms- Sharply raises Attack/SpA.

And overall stat raises.
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>>32287185
It becomes a 3 on 2 fight
Either that or it could just be a cop-out and say "but it failed!"
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>>32287560
More padding, duh
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A bigger movepool and gif the different sizes different stat distributions that focus on different stats.
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>>32288356
give it a special attack stat
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Fixing Kyurem B:
Ice punch
Icicle crash
Ice shard

It's not a shitmon, but it could use some actual good physical ice moves.
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>>32286104
>parental bond
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>>32288005
actual good ideas desu
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>>32286104
Bug/Steel

There, I fixed it.
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>>32286104
Make it a Bug/Rock type

>Resists Normal, Poison
>2x Weak to Rock, Steel, Water
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>>32286104
Increased priority for all Order moves.
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