How does /vp/ feel about Z moves?

I like them. Would be cool if the next games had a Z-move creator/editor.

They are a stupid gimmick and were invented just for the sake of marketing and impressing children with big cool displays of power, because Sun and Moon needed more selling points.

>>32255619
sounds familiar

>>32255498
cool during the team creation process, awful in battles unless they are bo3

>>32255498
Awful. Should be dropped.
Megas are better in every way.

>>32255498
>>32255498
>>32255498
I hated them at first until i decided to try to see how they work competitively for myself and they're not to bad. It was a good decision to run fightanium on blaziken.

>>32255756
Why exactly can't we have both? More gameplay options is a good thing.

>>32255756
>Megas are better in every way.
>megas can only be used on selected pokemon
>Z-moves can be used on every pokemon
hmm...

>>32255619
This. Classical ygo-tier generational gimmick. Just like megas. They are banned from vgc now and they stopped doing them.
Z-moves will have a similar fate.

Wasted potential like everything else in this franchise.

>>32255498
Could be better if the games actually bother to explain the effect of a status move when paired with a Z-crystal of the same type outside of "lel go find out yourself kid". If you don't have your trusty Bulba, Serebii or Smogon with you it's a guessing game where you memorize what one of these 200+ status moves does with its corresponding Z-crystal, which one matters, which one doesn't, which one boost which stat, which one heals...

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>>32256109
>Z-Moves can be used on every Pokemon therefore its better
But only a couple of Pokemon actually benefit from it, mostly Pokemon that were already good like Garchomp

>>32258540
Z-moves benefit every dedicated wallbreaker you fucking idot. I can use Rockium on Rampardos and get a free kill without dealing with Head Smash recoil. They aren't supposed to significantly improve a mon's viability, but to give you more options to work with.

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>>32255498
I liked them. I think they do what they're supposed to. I liked having something to fall back on in-case things aren't looking absolutely perfect. And it made me more inclined to try out Pokemon I otherwise wouldn't, because even a weak Pokemon can achieve a OHKO with them. Once you get used to them, you can try using them with Support moves, which opens up a whole new set of strategies.

So, yes, I liked them. If there is one complaint I have, it would not having a way to skip them. I liked them, they looked cool, but there were times I just wanted to get the battle over with, so having a way to skip them would've made it even better.

>>32258540
But still much more Pokemon like Z moves than Mega evolution.

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>>32255498
Every fucking time I think there's a Mario Strikers Charged Football thread

I like them because I love that dumb pose shit and limit breaks, but they don't really add much, they certainly don't effect the game the way Game Freak intended them to, and it's a big shame that they ignored Megas in SM to "give attention" to Z-Moves

Also they really should've spread out what stats get raised by Status ones better

They made my bro viable in OU, so I love them.

Z-Conversion is fun as hell to abuse.

>>32256109
Both can only be used once. who gives a shit

>>32255790

This. I hate how quickly GF drops concepts between generations. Having both is the best option, I think.

>>32261402
Aren't you excited for the gimmick that will replace Z-Moves in the next generation? I bet it's another literal "press button to win" gimmick, like Megas and Z-Moves. Oooooo the excitement