"Fire Type Specialist"

They could have at least given him a Magmortar. And Rotom-H.

>>32236932

in D/P Magmortar was post game.

why i don't know luckily Platinum fixed it and gave him some new mons.

He should have gotten Heat Rotom though, would have been a good counter mon.

>>32236918
its because sinnoh has literally no other fire types.

fire moves Specialist

>>32236942
Post game for the player. No reason why Flint couldn't have one.

>>32236932
heat rotom wasn't in DP

>>32236942
heat rotom wasn't fire type until BW

Maybe in the remakes he will have fire rotom and perhaps a fire Sinnohan Steelix?

OR he could become a non-specialist and Sinnohan Rapidash not be fire type?

>>32236932
I agree with Magmortar, or heck even magmar would have worked. Rotom's appliances were in platinum, and even so, it didn't have the fire type back then, it really would only have over heat and or will-o-wisp. Sure, it would have be coverage, but if it takes the pokemon to know sunny day, or a fire move, pretty sure people would be pissed off at rotom too. Also it was a mystery gift exclusive form, also. You don't have a unobtainable pokemon in the elite 4 until a specific date, or after the specific date.

>>32236918
At least Platinum fixed his team.
Aaron's ace still isn't a bug.

>>32236918
>sunny day fire fang steelix
>not even a stab move
every time, it's like a verlis set

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>>32236957
>sinnoh steelix
>fire/ground

>HP: 75
>ATK:200
>DEF:65
>SPAtk:30
>SPDef:55
>SPE:85

>>32236987
That would make an insane wallbreaker.

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>>32236987

>>32236932
Rotom-h wasn't in DP, newfag. And anyway in gen 4 it wasn't even a fire type.

Why people complain about DP fire distribution and the fact they put in a fire type specialist where are almost no fire type and nobody complain about rse where they pulled the same shit with an ice specialist.
Would have it been better if Flint used 2 monferno and a second Rapidash instead of hos 3 no-fire types?
Honestely I prefer what we got at this point.

>>32237058
His 3 non-fire types*

>>32237058
Hoenn is full of Water Types that learn Ice moves.
Fire has always been much harder to come by, DP just made it more noticable.

Flint is what more teams should be. He has a clear fire theme going, but can't just be swept by spamming surf

>>32237126
He can just spam surf though.
He should had weather ball roserade or something.

>>32236987
>wishiwashi used water gun

>>32236955
magmar and magmortar weren't in the Diamond Pearl Sinnohdex, only the Platinum sinnohdex and the DP nationaldex

>>32237126
Agreed. My favorites fights in ALL games remains the Lance fight in FRLG because of its variety

>>32237240
wishiwashi wouldn't be able to outspeed it

>>32236918
I like when a you have a type specialist that changes it up. Almost like they know their type of choice well enough to at least attempt to compensate for their weaknesses.

>>32237311
>fight volker in DP
>bring a ground type
>fucking Octillary out of nowhere

>fight Volkner in Platinum
>use Torterra
>Luxray used Ice Fang


>fight flint in Platinum
>send out Buizel
>Magmortar used Thunder Punch!
>send out Rampardos instead
>Magmortar used Solarbeam!

>fight elesa
>bring ground type
>sends out flying/electric type
>have to get a Crustle with Smack Down located conveniently nearby


>fight Bruno
>bring flying types
>he's got an Onix

>>32237394
>fighting crasher wake
>fightiing gyarados
>luxio use thunderbolt!
>Crasher wake sends out quagsire

>>32237394
>>he's got an Onix
oh no. not onix

>>32237431
i was surprised the first time (i had not trained a psychic type)

>>32237440
were you planning on sweeping with dodrio or something?

>>32237449
Pidgeot

>>32237311
>Almost like they know their type of choice well enough to at least attempt to compensate for their weaknesses
DP Flint isn't compensating for any weakness: its team has no Water resist and only one Ground resist( an immunity to be accurate). Steelix, Drifblim and Lopunny are shitmons and their movesets aren't good even by ingame standards

>>32236918
i mean, he follows the volkner background of being a normal "ace trainer" like before their paths were divided and he joined the e4 while volkner took control of sunyshore

i'm more triggered by the lack of any stab on steelix actually

>>32236918
>What kind of drugs was he on?
The same ones they were on when making Agatha, Karen, Glacia, and Lance. For some reason they fucking loved putting E4 members in a game and giving them a type that had basically no pokemon of that type in the region

>>32237394
>he's got an onix
oh no not the thing that gets instagibbed if someone turns on a sink in the same room

>>32237274
Ok.

So they could have put Magmar/Magmortar in the DP Sinnoh Dex and then Flint could have had one.

You are autistic as fuck, Anon.

>>32238248
that's why platinum exists moron

>>32238245
>hurr durr i want the jimmy liders and le lit 4 to have themed teams and not boring monotypes
>durr hurr i want the trials and themed teams to be monotype trainer battles
t. /vp/

>>32237126
Absolutely. I have no problems with this, I do think it could've been done just a little better. It's kinda a shame how they'll probably put all fire types on his team if they do a gen 4 remake

>>32238267
>glacia's terrible as shit team

If you dont count previous forms of an evo line as new pokemon, she has only 2 kinds of pokemon, Walrein and Glalie. That's pathetic.

>>32237282
Wishiwashi can't be found in Sinnoh in the first place
>''I was talking about online''
>Implying Wishiwashi isn't a shitmon

>>32238296
i can agree on this
at least in gen 3

but the ice were still lacking back then
her team would look very similar to lorelei from frlg and pryce if she used dewgong, lapras too and sneasel would have been full special back then

wish glacia's pokemon line used different movesets at least

the rng parade of hoenn league kinda helped them between attract, curse, confusion and evasion as well as ohko moves

also disliked the dig flygon and lack of kingdra in a sea captain team when even lance used it, only fixed in emerald but still, kingdra wasn't used by any trainer in rs

>>32238254
So they shouldn't have just included this new Pokemon they introduced and given the specialist of that type that Pokemon...... because they'd eventually make Platinum? Lol you're a fucking retard.

>>32238621
Stay mad anon. What they meant was that someone already thought of your idea after D/P's release, and implemented it into Platinum.

If you want to know why they didn't do it from the start you have to bring it up with GF.

>>32236918
>fire types was so non-existent in Sinnoh that GF was forced to give Flint the fire starter just so there wouldn't be one sole fire type on his team

>>32236987
Switch Speed and SpDef and maybe it'd be balanced.

>>32238989
85 is a slow speed for the current OU meta. And making it bulkier (even marginally) is a bad idea.

It would basically be Hoopa U with better stab, but more weaknesses.

>>32237311
This would be great, but since they changed the pokemonof Volkner and Flint in Pt, it's quite obvious they didn't realize how many fite/electric pokemon were in the oriiginal sinnohdex.

>>32236987
>Any regional variation
>Having a larger stat change than +/-20

Oh boy.

>>32237311
A lvl 58 empoleon with average spa vs his entire team (adjusted for levels and stuff)
>128 SpA Empoleon Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Rapidash: 180-212 (122.4 - 144.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
128 SpA Empoleon Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Steelix: 210-248 (130.4 - 154%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>128 SpA Empoleon Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Drifblim: 120-142 (48 - 56.8%) -- 89.1% chance to 2HKO
128 SpA Empoleon Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Lopunny: 76-90 (51 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>128 SpA Empoleon Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Infernape: 186-218 (108.1 - 126.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
You were saying?

>>32238245
Agree on the other 3, but
Karen: Houndoom, Murkrow, Umbreon, Sneasel, T-Tar.
Was it really that hard to compose a team like this? The even have diverse secondary typing.

>>32239501
>Ttar

She should have had a Sneasel but Ttar, they probably didn't want to give anybody but the Champion a pseudo back then

>>32239501
karen took agatha's position
both have themed teams and not simple monotypes until rematches which are hardly canon

agatha is based on fears and scary mons and beside the ghost assonance pun most of her poisonous mons can be also related to agatha christie

karen's team is definitely a witch themed one, poisonous plants, black cats, spoops, crows, hounds and shit

>>32239270
>Starter solo
I wish you luck against Cynthia

>>32239521
She's technically the leader (Lance's position in RBY), so it would have been a neat parallel to him having the gen 1 pseudo back then.

this shit better get fixed in DiaPer remakes

>>32237311
This is the reason that makes me miss Stadium teams.
I got really disappointed in PWT.

He should've had 6 pokemon. Full teams of 6 are more fun. and that 6th mon should've been Flareon.

>>32236918
>literally two fire lines the entire region including the starter
>make one of the E4 a fucking fire specialist

Sinnoh was a joke.

>fire type specialist
>lol that just means he's a fire type pokemon specialist

>>32236918
If they ever add difficulty settings I hope every type specialist with a party of five has at least two Pokemon who aren't their associated type.

I wish they would make gym leaders/elite four's like this, you don't have to have 5 of the same type to be a type specialist.

>>32243110
Exactly!
Like OP said, they could've swapped one of his fire types to give him a mixed team

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>>32236987
>200 Attack
>85 speed
>STAB Earthquake and Flare Blitz or Heat Crash
>Coverage moves like Iron Head/Heavy Slam, Crunch, Stone Edge, Exposion, Thunder Fang, and potentially Ice Fang and Aqua Tail.
>Has access to Sneaky Pebbles
>Choice Scarf and Choice Band exist
>Thinking this is at all balanced.

An adamant scarf set will OHKO max physical defense Toxapex after Stealth Rocks (yet die to its scald), has an OHKO on Latios (while outspeeding non-scarfed versions) with Crunch, 2HKOs max defense Lando T after rocks, etc.

While looking at the calcs, its a fucking glass cannon, with no real safe switch ins. It fucking OHKO's standard Greninja after rocks with Flare Blitz for Trump's sake.

Earthquake/Flare Blitz/Crunch/Stone Edge or Iron Head would deal with most threats.

>>32236987
>anything in the Onix line
>having good Attack

you know they'd probably make it a mixed attacker that was Dragon/Rock type