Some Pokemon are made to be shitmons, common and mowed down for EXP. This thread isn't for those Pokemon. Some mons have great designs or concepts, are rare, are built up as powerful in the dex or by general appearance - but have stats that mean they'll never see OU. I'm not saying they deserved to be pseudo-tier, they just deserved better.
Some Pokemon have stats that, while not bad, don't suit their design. Any fixes for them are also welcome.
Golurk
Ghost/Ground
BST: 483 > 540 (same as Gyarados, Electivire, Kingdra...)
HP: 105
Atk: 135
Def: 100
SpAtk: 60
SpDef: 80
Speed: 60
>>32234290
Switch Sceptile's Atk and SpAtk. I get why it is the way it is, but it's still bullshit when Leaf Blade used to be its fucking signature.
Vikavolt
BST: 530
HP: 77
Atk: 55(-15)
Def: 95
SpAtk: 145
SpDef: 75
Speed: 88(+45)
Access to Aura sphere
Samurott
Same BST
HP: 95
Atk: 100
Def: 95 (+10)
SpA: 78 (-30)
SpD: 80 (+10)
Spe: 80 (+10)
And give it access to Sacred Sword.
Incineroar
Same BST
HP - 95
Attack - 115
Defense - 90
Sp. Att - 50 (-30)
Sp. Def - 90
Speed - 90 (+30)
Access to moves like Power Up Punch, Drain Punch, Thunder Punch, and Sucker Punch
>>32234620
>50 SpAtk
>on a starter
No. 70 SpAtk at least. 80 Speed, but give it Agility
>>32234655
>wanting to use a special attacking Incineroar
No. 60 Sp. Attack, 80 Speed, but it keeps Nasty Plot and gets access to Agility.
>>32234687
No starter has a off-Attack that low. Primarina has an Attack of 74, Delphox is the lowest with 69.
Incineroar didnt do so badly in that regard. 70's a pretty good deal- it doesnt 'deserve' minmaxing beyond that level
>>32234290
Give a good reason why Golurk deserves a BST greater than starters, on par with Gyarados and crossgen evo
>muh bro
isn't a good one
>>32234428
>Access to Aura sphere
no
>>32235957
>evolves at level 48- exclusively lategame
>A fucking giant robot
>Created using ancient magical powers to defend the world
You're right that 540 may be overkill, though. Was kind of thrown off by the fact that Vanilluxe has 535.
530, then? (Exeggutor, Walrein, Aggron...)
Decidueye
>70
>170
>70
>1
>70
>154
Barafags will deny this