ITT: Pokemon ruined by their 3D models.

>>32230589
Please be bait

Aka. none.

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>>32230589

>>32230589
>You could've posted some of the more atrocious flying poses like Tropius or Xatu
>You could've posted something that genuinely looked way off like Haxorus
>instead you posted that

Well I meant 3D models which are far worse than the Gen V sprites.

>>32230589

It looks exactly the fucking same.

>>32230589
God I hate the washed out colors

>it's another "people post shitty zoomed out stills instead of the actual models" thread

Rip Delphox

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It doesn't have the cool glowing wires and tail, nor does it have to cool 'fists slamming down on the ground' animation.

>>32230589
all of them
in general everything looks a bit more rounded, and lost some of their fierceness or something

also the animations have a lot to do with it, a lot of them look really shitty and lifeless

I miss Typhlosion's flames.Why do the other mons get to keep theirs.

>>32230649
>It doesn't have the cool glowing wires and tail
literally just send it out in battle

>>32230649
it does have in battle. It's like Xerneas and it's active mode.

>>32230689
>It's another "I don't know how Typhlosion's flames work episode"
They only come out when they attack, they were just seen all the time in previous gens because of the one/two-frame sprites instead of animations, and in Gen 5's case because they were cutting corners by trying to reuse DP assets for its sprite. Go play Stadium 2 etc. and you'll see it was always that way.

>>32230695
Alright, maybe your're right about that, but the /Gad/ Daddy doesn't look at all threatening standing there without slamming his gorilla arms on the ground.

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>>32230649
>It doesn't have the cool glowing wires and

Yes it does, just only in battle.

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>>32230616
You're hurting me

>>32230731
That's true

>>32230589
ITT:autism

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>>32230808
Where do you think we are?

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>>32230649
>cool 'fists slamming down on the ground' animation.
it does, but it really have no impact compared to the original

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Can't believe we're 25 replies in and no mention of the once glorious bipedal Xatu. Now it's just some stupid flat flying fuck.

>>32230873
there's no weight to the animations
looks bad, man

>>32230879
>What is ctrl+f
I can't believe we're 1 reply in without someone calling you an retard.

>>32230879

This thread is about models, not animations.

>>32230879
This triggers me to this very day.
The whole point of Xatu was it being able to see in the past and in the future, standing still while it is watching everything.

>>32230895
To be fair, Gen VI ruined most of the animations too.

>>32230630
Even the official artworks have more saturation than the textures.

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>>32230918

Older Pokemon perhaps, because they weren't designed with 3D in mind.

The Gen 6 and 7 ones are however, which you can tell by how much better their animations are.

>>32230960
What website has these animations?

>>32230960
Yeah, I'll give you that. And most of the Mega evolution's have decent 3D models.

>>32230894
Just because they mentioned it doesn't mean they meant to discuss it though, and I do, hence the 3 replies to my post

>>32230879
This gets me every time. Absolute shit. How could they fuck this up so hard

>>32231093
Eelektross and Butterfree are fine tbqhwyf

>>32231093
That Blastoise is abhorrent.

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>>32231093

There's nothing wrong with Eelektross you shitter. It actually levitates instead of hopping up and down. It actually moves like an eel would.

Guess who is
Just stand and barely breathes in

>>32231093
What is wrong with Eelectross?

>>32231111
It's not an eel. It's a Pokemon. The model animation makes it look like a retarded windsock.

Would it have killed them to give the flying pokemon some variety in how they look/flew?

The real tragedy is that because the models have been made for future-proofing, we're going to be stuck with them for years to come. They don't ruin games but they're pretty bland.

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>tfw a great deal of your favourite bird Pokemon are still standing in battle

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>>32230616
>>32230879
>>32230908
>>32231051
>>32231093
>>32231273
Care for a Sky Battle with a Sky Trainer?

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Nidoking looked so threatening back in gen 3. Now he looks fat.

>>32231952

The standard model creation formula:

>Make it shorter
>Make it fatter
>Wash out the colors

>>32232025
>Make it shorter
>Make it fatter

This never happened

>Wash out the colors

They didn't wash out the colors, they corrected them to match the official art.

>>32232025
No, don't forget. You need to make the arms look retarded too if the pokemon is bipedal.
Just butcher any personality of the pokemon had and make it CLEAR to the person playing the game that this model was made with clear time and budget restraints.

>>32232039
>they corrected them to match the official art.

there's more than one official art. The sugimori art IS washed out.

>ITT people don't know the difference between a model's geometry, textures, and animations

It's been 4 years since XY came out and you fags still don't understand the difference

>>32231093
>butterfree
k

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JUST

>>32232125
Both of those got fucked by art changes over the years, the sprite to model transition had nothing to do with it

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>>32232113
>proportions are flat out wrong yet the people who defend this are probably the same people defending the shitty colors just because they match the sugimori artwork

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>>32232138
>Both of those got fucked by art changes over the years

No. Blastoise could have looked good if they actually tried.

>>32232172
Except the figure there is off model compared to every official depiction released for blastoise since gen 3.

>>32232212
No. It matches the Gen 5 sprite better than the gen 6/7 model does.

>>32232172

you missed his point. Blastoise was butchered long before the 3D conversion. They used the overall bulk/frame from the already butchered later gen models in 2-D as their basis for 3D.

>>32230600
>none
arcanine, hippowdon, venusaur, blastoise, just to name a few

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>>32232227

Sprites don't mean shit, what's canon in the Sugimori art.

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>>32230624
When Venusaur was designed I don't think anyone thought about how it would look like in 3D. I don't think they even thought about what its ass would look like.

>>32232237
>the thing that actually shows up IN THE GAME for a franchise about GAMES doesn't count and somehow isn't official

stop moving goalposts and stop being a retard.

>>32232233
>you missed his point. Blastoise was butchered long before the 3D conversion

But it wasn't. All of its sprites look fine. The dream world artwork even looks better than its model does.

>>32232273
>stop moving goalposts and stop being a retard.

Nah, that's you, you are implying that the official fucking artwork for the character isn't what everything else is based on

>>32232277
News flash: sprites are official artwork.

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Literally a yellow man

>>32230879
Good taste

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>>32232273

Sprites have been wrong before, Anon.

>>32232294
look at this angery yellow man

>>32232288
no, they literally aren't.

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>>32232266
Could be worse

>>32232332
It's not wrong if they've been portraying Blastoise the same way in sprites for ~10 years.

>>32232375
yes, they literally are.

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>>32232294

Get a load of this

>>32231264
(You)

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>>32232161
>people complain about new pokemon with bad proportions
>complain when a bad proportion pokemon is given normal proportions

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>>32230589

>>32232457
who the hell complains about proportions of new pokemon? The only complaints I've heard are that they're overdesigned or overly cartoony, like decidueye having limp noodle wings instead of actual bird wings like pidgey or something

>>32232477
Literally every incineroar thread

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>>32232161

At least the use the real model for comparison instead of a pixelated zoomed out screencap

>>32232500
It doesn't matter to the point at all. Stop being an autist.

>>32232508

It does, actually.

This thread is about models, not 2D sprites of the models.

>>32232381
20 years later, and I still can't see what the fuck they wanted me to see there.

>>32232408
The Yellow Man becomes cool for 1 second each 5 minutes, wow

These threads are always the same.
Same start;
Same progression;
Same points;
Same discussion;
Same everything.

>>32232500
Most people just use what is on most popular websites. I have yet to find a website that has the images like yours, but admittedly I haven't tried looking.

>>32232521
>It does, actually.

No, it doesn't.

Your image is still 2D you retard. And the other image posted is essentially how it looks in-game anyway. Stop being autistic.

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I think he overall looks like shit and flaps his wings slightly to fast

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>>32232125
Look at that pose, is like he's saying "you're fucked."

Now he's all like pudgy and fat.

I can see GF making the argument that all flying pokemon have that stupid soaring pose for novice players to tell which pokemon are flying types, and it makes sense to an extent, but pokemon like Xatu and Tropius just look hideous.

What they need to do, is make all flying pokemon grounded, and give them dodge animations. Like how protect got that blue circle animation in gen 7, make flying pokemon visibly jump and hover for a bit when they dodge an EQ.

>>32232039

>This never happened

Im
fuckin
plyin

I'll never forgive them for what they did to Aggron.

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Ya'll are complaining about XYs models, however in XY there are no models that flat out ruined specific Pokemon, heres one contender that isn't from XY. Who thought of that needs to be fired.

>>32231273
>some variety in how they look/flew?
Such as?

>>32232405
>It's not wrong if they've been portraying Blastoise the same way in sprites for ~10 years.

Except they fucking haven't.

The Gen 1, 2/3, and 4/5 sprites all use different designs. Look at the cannon ports and body/arm proportions

>>32234957
I will forgive them though, since there were so many unique animations, a lot of which added a lot of character to Pokemon. Those animations for recovering from being hit were very cool.

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nubby blades

>>32234992
Don't they extend during animations?

>>32234994
Yes they do

Ignore bait threads
Ignore bait posts
Do not reply to bait posters

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>>32232527
The flower is best to look almost at a 90 degree angle at the opponent.

Kinda drunk but here you go

>>32235007
bent**

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Literally no animation.

"""MODELS"""
This whole thread is full of memes who STILL don't know the difference between models, textures, animations and everything 3D related. In pixel art, you have really no restrictions besides pixel count and in 5th gen the number of frames iirc
Don't reply further, don't decay further into stupidity

>>32232172
blastoise will never look good until they bring back the red eyes and round cannon hatches

>>32232676
>literally the same pose as in the models
(You)

>>32233432
>I'll never forgive them for what they did to Aggron
Nothing?

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>>32230788
I don't know what it is about the model that makes it look so off. Pic related is in the same post but manages to look so much better.

Can someone explain to me why people complain about Haxorus's model?

>>32235572
They gave it legs.
That's about it.

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>>32235067
I think that they meant that Aggron's shiny colours are washed out, but are normal only in it's mega-evolved form. Don't know why they're complaining about Aggron- the majority of pokemon got more washed-out colours.

>>32230589
They were all ruined by the 3D models. At least with the 2D sprites, they didn't need to be very detailed to look good. But now 99% of all Pokémon look like bad Play Dough sculpts. They're all just spheres and curved cylinders now.

>>32231093
>Lugia
But that model makes its tummy look more huggable

>>32235603
this

there are literally zero pokemon that were improved by 3d modelling and animations

>>32235069
>I don't know what it is about the model that makes it look so off
It's autism, like the majority of this thread.

They all look the same. Some are just posed in "boring" manners.

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>>32232294
better?

>>32235940
is he atacking all the time?

>>32235955
>badger
>not attacking all the time

>>32231111
Agreed. Definitely a casualty of how limited/lazy animations were in BW. XY saved Eelectross.

>>32235973
Typholasion is a weasel

>>32231093
>wailord is still not scaled properly

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>>32235673
>2016+1
>not having autism

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>>32230589
All of them. The graphics peaked at gen V and the 2D sprites had way more personality. 3D was mistake.

>>32236127
>Gen V sprites
>good
>citing Cinccino of all Pokemon

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>>32236127
ugly and lifeless

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>>32236138
>I don't play the game and just play Showdown and look at .gifs of the status menu idles

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>>32236148
A lot of the attack animations in gen 6+7 are pretty bad. The only time they did the 3D animations right was for the Stadium games.

>>32236164
That still means it's superior to the sprites.

>>32231111
There is one problem. the model is too small for some reason.

>>32231952
Why they just don't put the arms on the ground like it is about to ram something?

>>32232266
It looks like a frog. So its ok.

>>32234957
I fucking love that face.

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>>32236164
Completely true, but the 2D attack animations were never good either past the GBC games. Which are also the only times the sprites have been good at all, with Gen I charmingly off model and Gen II the only actual instance of decent spritework. Since then the attack animations have been kept in the same style for that sake, 2D or 3D, regardless of what the hardware is capable of. Gen VI and VII at least took us into the SNES era where the Pokemon themselves will make some form of movement while attacking beyond sliding around a still image.

>>32236257
Gen 3 had amazing attack animations
>Thunder
>Leafblade
>Surf
>All ice attacks

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>>32232294
every fucking time

>>32236266
also superpower is top tier animation
the only thing i hate about gen 3 is that they fucking butchered hyper beam both visually and sound wise

>>32232457
>"bad" proportions

explain why it's bad, faggot

did you perhaps mean "exaggerated"?

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>>32235050

Then what's this

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>>32235669

>>32232477
Fearow wings in the 3D model are awful

>>32232266
That's what a frog looks like... which is what he is based off of.

>>32238253
Spinda has one of the best faggot

>>32238457
It's a fucking crime.

>>32238877
That's what he meant you sped, he replied to a guy who said no Pokemon looked good in 3d, to show him Spinda, a Pokemon who DOES look good in 3d

>>32238457
I do like that if you look at excadrill from head on it looks like it's wearing a mining helmet

>>32238457
Identical.

Nidoking and feraligatr

>>32235669

>Not loving Porygon-Z and its eternal glitching

Get the fuck out of here.

>>32236138
It can be debated how good some of the animations, however there's no denying 3D makes pokémon feel more alive. They come out, they attack, you can see them wincing when they take damage or faint, you can see them smile and be happy on Amie, while in Gen 5, they were stuck on a 5-frame loop for all time and kind of just faded away, their expressions never changing.

Comparing the idle stance of a 3D model to a sprite is outright stupid, but you might have a case if you say animations are bad

>>32238812
>he

>>32239349
Oops. At least I supported his cause

everything that hovers in place because of sky balltes, fuck xy

>>32231093
I don't mind Haxorus

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Inverse example,this could be a good pokemon

>>32230649
>GADs
>being bad
>ever
What kind of bullshit is this

>>32232381
this is honestly the worst spritework in the history of video games

Why do people hate Haxorus' model when it looks better from a proportional standpoint?
>legs aren't super tiny anymore
>neck isn't too long anymore
If anything they fixed Sugimori's mistakes

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>>32230731
>The /gad/ Daddy

Fucking kek in heaven, who said /vp/ is trash?

>>32231758
>Some dipshit at GF thought sky battles were a good idea to make as the new battle type for xy
>They weren't fun or interesting, nobody liked or cared about them, and now we're stuck with flying animations for all flying pokemon forever.

>>32231093
what's wrong with Haxor