>mon is super strong in the lore >it's shit in game

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>mon has great defensive stats
>pure ice type.

>cool hidden ability that puts an intresting spin on mon
>Shit movepool or stats

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>>32207238
"Zoroark can create illusions that are indistinguishable from reality, deluding many people simultaneously. It can even create illusory landscapes in the forests where it dwells, to hide its territory and protect its den. However, Zoroark is incapable of physically changing itself into another form; it is merely capable of casting illusions. When a Zoroark takes the form of a human, it is capable of human speech. It can make convincing illusions of attacks, and these illusions are extremely realistic, enough to fool even cameras and make one believe they're being physically affected, though the illusion does not have any direct physical effect. "
But it does none of that in battle

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>>32207238
>pokemon has a theme or trait
>pokemon doesn't have moves to compliment its theme or trait

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>both of mons abilities are shit
>hidden abilities introduced
>its hidden ability is also shit

>>32207253
I will always like you, Avalugg

>>32207238
Regigigas

>>32207253
Avalugg

>>32207361
Toucannon

>>32207392
Escavalier (read the poekdex, says its super fast and can fly, lol)

>>32207419
Unfezant

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>>32207238
>Pokémon is found early with decent spawn rate and catch rate
>It's a monster in-game and OU on meta.

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>>32207419
>have a shit ability
>get a shit hidden ability
>get two different mega evolutions with two different shitty abilities

>>32207419
Pyroar?

>>32207392
>minior
>meteor
>no meteor mash
>no draco meteor
>no comet punch
>no wish

>>32207253
I think avalugg is pretty good desu.

>>32207625
>minior
>punch
>minior
>dragon
>minior
>punch

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>>32207659
I don't think Avalugg is the problem

>pokemon gets shit ability but fits the lore and design well

Its an obscure feel. Can't be mad, but still

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>>32207691
>make Ice a type
>it's actually useless because Ice in real life is useless because it melts from touching literally anything that isn't itself or something as cold if not colder

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>>32207253
>great defensive stats
>steel/rock

>>32207419
hypno

>>32207605
At least Mewtwo's strong to begin with

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>>32207722
>>32207722
>Ice is the strongest type in Club Penguin (meta and lore wise).
>tfw It's the shittiest element in the real world and in Pokémon.

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>>32207238
>mon is found early on
>its barely more than dead weight until it evolves
>it doesn't evolve until the end of the game
>even after evolving, it still fucking sucks

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>>32207238
>slow
>frail
>mixed attacker

>>32207596
>Talonflame in Gen 6

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>Has Sheer Force
>it's physical

>>32207605
The only good thing I can say about Mewtwo's abilities is that Insomnia kind of helped it against Darkrai, before Dark Void got nerfed.

>>32210145
Feraligatr and Darmanitan are solid though.