ITT: Forgettable moves Pic related, it's Boomburst

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Aromatic Mist

>>32199717
>Boomburst
>Forgettable

>>32199717
Boomburst isn't forgettable

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>140 bp 100% acc move with no drawbacks
>distributed only to 6 mons
>only one mon that isn't complete shit can actually make use of it

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>>32199717
>>32199771
Move tutor when?

Razor Wind

Worst move in the history of Pokemon imo

>charging move
>80 Bp
>fucking normal type instead of flying
>no purpose

>>32199771
Considering the kind of things we have nowadays:
>Ash greninja with base 60 STAB priority that breaks subs and sashes/sturdy and 153 SpA
>Tapu lele with boosted base 200 psychic and 130 SpA
>Alolan marowak or darmanitan with obscenely strong flare blitz and over 130 Atk (be it naturally or with thick club for marowak)
>etc

I can't help but wonder why gamefreak is so afraid of giving boomburst to anything with SpA over 97. Is not like it will break the game more than any of the above.

>>32199827
Boomburst pZ when

>>32199827
*Base 60 MINIMUM

It can be base 100 priority that breaks sashes and subs off of 153 Sp. Atk. Now that's what I call power creep.

>>32199788
So true.

Hyper Beam and Giga Impact. They've become more useful and less forgettable with Z-moves, but still not enough.

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>>32199874
>mfw Ash-Greninja can't be transferred to gen 8

>>32199874
Wait I thought water shuriken ALWAYS hits only 3 times (no more, no less) when used by ash greninja. Can it really still roll a turn where it hits 5 times?

>>32199901
Yeah, it hits minimum three times now. It'd be a nerf if it were locked into what was already the most common roll.

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Crafty Shield
Flower Shield
Rototiller

>>32199922
>READ NIGGA READ
my sides

>>32199912
Well that's a load of bullshit I just learned about.

Greninja can have a potential 100 bp priority STAB and exploud is stuck with 91 SpA to use boomburst? I'm not even an exploudfag and even then I think this is stupid

>>32199771
It hits your partner

>>32199874
Don't forget that it's base 60 plus STAB, so it's effectively a 90 BP minimum, 150 BP maximum priority move with all those other bells and whistles you mentioned.

>>32199945
that is, if you have one

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>>32199771
>no mega flygon with a ground-type pixilate and a higher sp.attack stat to make use of boomburst

>>32199954
And why wouldn't you!

I'm just busting your balls though. It seems like the moves that are most commonly posted as forgettable are basically doubles exclusive

I did not know Mist and Haze were two different moves until recently. They're both forgettable as fuck.

>>32199995
Hazel is pretty popular competitively

>>32199771
all pokemon that get boomburst suck ass

>>32199995
Haze is one of the most important moves in online battling

Kinesis
Telekenesis

>>32199901
>>32199912
>>32199941

battle bond buffs WS from 15 to 20 BP and makes it hit a minimum of 3 times and a maximum of 3 times

>>32200022
mega pidgeot needs it and focus Blast

>>32200022
>anything not OU or above is a shitmon

>>32200035
>>32200003
Haze has historically only been good on weezing and toxapex

whirlwind, roar, and dragon tail have all been more significant

>>32199788
High crit rate :^)

>>32200138
Isn't that actually a typo?

>>32200143
Is it? I'd never heard of that before. I have no idea.

>>32200153
I remember reading that it actually doesn't have an high crit ratio, but I can't find anything about it so I'm probably wrong.

>>32199788
It's not forgettable, it's the most hated move in the entire world.

>>32200164
That's only in gen 1 because crit rate was fucked

any move that had increased crit chance actually had zero crit chance

>>32199788
>check to see if anything notable learns this garbage-tier move outside of Gen I mons
>Type: Null gets it
>at level fucking 70
for what purpose

>>32200256
Slash and razor leaf had a 100% of a crit

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>>32199827
>tfw the only water-type special priority move is too theme-specific to justify giving to more than two mons

>>32200022
Specs Swellow makes pretty good use of it

Power Trip. Look it up. I didn't know it existed for a good while after the games came out.

>>32202661
So it's a physical Dark version of Stored Power?

I suppose Scolipede could pass some speed boosts to a Moxie Krookodile. Not sure how that'd work out, but it seems good in theory.

>>32202661
I wouldn't say that it's forgettable, more that it's not something that most casuals would run into. This happens with every new generation.
For example, Fire Lash. I would bet that 95% of people have never encountered it on cartridge.

Truly forgettable moves are things that have been around for a while, but aren't any good. Constrict is only known for being absolute trash, and vicegrip is just another normal type move.

>>32199899
It can be deposited into Pokebank, so it's staying for the long run

Quash

>Laser Focus
Tell me without googling what this does

>>32200256
No, that's Dire Hit.
>>32200314
Crit rate was based off Pokemon's Speed.

The problem is, high crit moves were EIGHT times more likely to crit, meaning some Pokemon always critted with these moves.

The joke is that crits ignored all stat changes, even ones that would help the user.

>>32203077
I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say it has something to do with Accuracy. Either that or its a reskinned Lock On. Time to google and see if I was on the mark.

>>32203077
Next move is always a crit and its on Necrozma. Thanks Metronome

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>>32203099
>the next move will be Critical
>only 4 Pokemon learn it
>Necrozma isn't one of them

>>32199788
Even submission isn't that shitty

>>32203147
>Submission now forces your opponent to recharge next turn
Did I fix it?

>>32203077
>>32203102
What this anon said, aside from the Necrozma part. That's Prismatic Laser.
I know it's a level up on Kartana, but I had to look up what else learns it.

>>32203158
>100% accurate
>90-100 Power
There. Now it's usable on some Reckless mons, without using some borked side-effect

Burn Up.

Boomburst fucked me raw at the 19th super double battle tree.

That's the reason why My Garchomp has Outrage now.

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>>32202852
>Look it up
>They give Heatmor a signature move two gens after it was introduced
>It's not even that good
What the fuck?

>>32199788
I used it for EV grinding on Talonflame in gen 6 since it hit everything in horde battles.

>>32200136

Dumbest post I've read all day

>>32199848
>equivalent 280 bp attack of a 135 sp-atk stat
>on something with stat boosts

it would be fun but oh so broken

>>32200373
what is aqua jet?

>>32199717
Rolling kick. Cool name and cool animation, but the move itself is just all-around shit: 60 bp, 85 accuracy, and the 30% flinch chance is pretty worthless since most of the pokemon that learn the move are slow as fuck, and that's on top of the 85 accuracy I mentioned earlier.

Hell, I even ran an experiment with a super gimmicky scarf Machamp set with rolling kick and it was STILL shit.

>>32203650
>special