/pdg/ - Pokémon Duel General

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(-・ˇˇ・-) first for Shelgon (-・ˇˇ・-)

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>>32193809
>someone considering using weavile
that's a good gif tho

>>32193829
vroom vroom!

magmortar
more like FAGMORTAR cuz this guy sucks dick

seriously. he ever lands flame gun when you need it

>>32193863
i guess you meant ''never lands flame gun''
I think Lucario is the better option, though by much.

>>32193863
This
I literally had to replace it with Deoxys A due to it's Anti-fug status

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Post prospective Gym teams

I'm hoping to get a Rhyperior in time, but I'm probably gonna end up swapping Rhydon out anyway at some point after it jobs too much

>>32194325
>Ho-oh is my only good Fire type
If I don't pull anything else in time, I'll just have to load up on Ground types

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>>32194363
Doing way better than me.

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>>32194325
Probably this. Fires are meh, grounds are shit. I thought about putting in Magmar but just doesn't seem worth it.

>>32193829
vroom vroom !

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>>32194325
posting options list

>>32194783
I got a Zygarde recently, but I'm anxious about putting on a team with any good amount of purple. It seems like you'd just be asking to fuck yourself over

>>32194806
its a pretty swingy piece, but it's not anything I would ever rely on

>>32194806
>>32194848
oh also you can get his plate and then it only effects the enemy's non-flying figs instead

but he'll still have 1mp

>>32193863
Magmortar is high risk high reward kinda mon. I love him, but he for sure doesn't fit everyone's play style.

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>one month from now
>next hotel comes out for story mode
>most of the enemies run deoxys/reuniclus
>don rog continues about how the game has become p2w as a result of these pieces
>he introduces a great counter (something along the lines of a single plate that doesnt end your turn, rather than having to build your deck around countering a specific deck)
>the counter is given for free as a reward
>deoxys/reuniclus were implemented for the story the whole time to prove don rog's point

>>32195160
Plate gives Bug Types "Supereffective" attacks, +100 attack, doesn't end turn to use.

Hotel Boss is Bugbot

D E E P E S T
L O R E

>>32195160
>hotel boss runs 6 Deoxys with Cosmo Enrgy

>>32195329
>yfw its 3 Deoxys A, 2 Deoxys D, 1 Deoxys S and Ho-oh

Does the game end as soon as you touch the goal point or can you misclick?

If yes, does moving Pokemon around with things like Spiky Shield also work?

>>32195380
>3 + 2 + 1 + 1
Anon...

>>32195387
if you're already sent the command to land on the goal, as long as your mon doesnt instantly die from a surround you cant misclick (if you mean going on goal and starting a fight or something)

getting forced on the goal from displacement moves counts for the victory

>>32195394
By misclicking I mean "FUCK I DID NOT WANT TO CLICK ON THE TILE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF GOAL POINT"

>>32195389
> 5 Deoxys and Ho-oh
What?

>>32195398
oh if you walk over the goal point then it doesnt count, so yeah you can misclick like that

>>32195401
>3 Deoxys A, 2 Deoxys D, 1 Deoxys S
Can you add?

>>32195401
>5 deoxys
You might want to give it another read.

>it's a 3 turn win because opponent's Pokemon jobbed against my Mew
Normally, I'd feel sorry for him.
But lately my luck has been sucking everybody's dick. So fuck that guy.

>>32195453
>people that attack within the first few turns
they deserve to lose 100% of the time

>>32195453
>>32195456
>opponent moves up three
>send out Moltres
>they Hurdle
>Soar
>move next to point
>Soar onto point
>they move back on my entry
its the same song and dance every time.
and people thought Wait 9 would be any issue

>>32195485
I always rush with Deo-S. I've maxed Dodge so there's a better chance of them jobbing and me immediately bouncing to goal. Some know better and run a 3 mon to block the centre path so then I move to an entry, they have to move to goal (if they're not dumb) and then I switch Deo for Magikarp and basically own it. Dumb strat or good one?

>>32195550
you sound like you're 2500 rating or below

>invested enough xp to get an EX to level 5
>and an EX cube in it
>don't use it any more

who is it for you guys?
Yveltal for me
poor guy can't stand up to the deoxys and reuniclus' going around and his draining wind is more of a hinderance than a helper

>>32195871
Latias

I never liked Hallucination, and with the Deo/Reuniclus Meta running wild having a Lati is Far too much of a liability nowadays

>>32196248
>I never liked Hallucination
you're not supposed to like it...

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>just learned that fusion moves override magikarp's fast evolution
>mfw he forfeited right after

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>>32196297
>fusion moves override magikarp's fast evolution
Does it now?, maybe swapping my hurdle jump for 2 reshi/zekrom plates could work...
if only i had pulled a zekrom...

>>32196306
Yep Magikarp goes straight to the shadow realm

>>32194783
Something tells me the prize figure is gonna be Groudon

>>32196340
No, you can draw him.
It's going to be something we don't have.

It's the Fire/Ground camel dudes.
Numale [C]
Camelman [R]

>>32196393
no you cant
groudon is likely, they all but said it already

>>32196406
?? I swear he was added to the booster

>>32196411
are you sure you arent thinking of heatran?

>do a room match for daily
>opponent goes first
>doesn't make a move and i get a timeup win
Why

>>32194806

I'd be hella scary of facing one with the team i'm gonna use, but if i had one i'd run it with my Moltres and a couple golems

>>32196502

honestly i often start up room matches for the daily and then get distracted as the load, and usually I make the other people wait for a whole 2 minutes and a half, my bad

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>last match before I rank up to masters
>get paired with a 2500 with a really good team
>RNG is on my side, end up knocking everything but his Moltres and Zekrom out
>have a long ass stalemate as I took his entry points, his Moltres keeps on getting frozen by my Glaceon and my Moltres keeps on landing Dodge against his Zekrom's Fly, which would've otherwise gotten it surrounded
>Glaceon eventually misses and the Leafeon I had on the left entry point gets knocked out as well
>he pushes Mew back up after getting it out on the field again
>attack Zekrom one last time, I land Flame Charge, he lands Fly and gets surrounded then moves his Moltres onto the goal
>despite his Zapdos being on the bench and my Moltres can't Soar over his, I move Yveltal from the right entry point to get a surround on Moltres since I didn't want Metagross back on the field
>he attacks Yveltal with Zapdos, prepare for the worst
>it lands on Dodge
>move Yveltal and surround Moltres

In hindsight, I should've just Hurdle Jumped my Moltres, but what a fucking clutch game to rank up with

>>32196502
>>32196536
How the fuck do you just do random room matches?

Blur flare or fusion flare for Reshi? I was thinking of leveling blue flare and having Zekrom go fusion

>>32197690
Make sure you have location services on, they'll pop up automatically once you go into the Room Matches menu

Ban respinners

>>32197765
so when's don roger's funeral

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>Weekly mission is win three matches in a row

Anybody else like to try and get double kills? Usually zapdos can pull it off with one surround and a thunder crash

>>32198266
>Get two wins in a row
>Next match is against Reuniclus x3 + Cosmo Deoxys

>>32197721
>Make sure you have location services on
How? I've looked everywhere. GPS is on on my phone.

Is Flareaon not trash?
Literally the only thing I've been getting that's at least R it's him.
I got 4 right now but it looks like C tier shit

>>32198707
>48% on-curve 3MP
>can hit top curve
>best status
>only 8 miss
Why do you think it's bad, and why do you think C figures are shit?

>>32198734
>40 damage
>To apply status you need to faint
>Even with focus energy you still get 80 if you get it in the first place

Leafeon and Glaceon plain look better

>>32198734
>best status
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>32198707
>>32198734
>>32198751
>>32198756
all eeveelutions are good

>>32198734
>>>>>>>thinking Flareaon is good
you're bad.

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>>32194391
>>32194325
im shooting for ranking top 100 in the world just like i did with dragon cup

>Let the AI play
>It uses Whimsi as an aggro piece
>It uses 30 damage and KO's Latias

>>32199176
the AI is charmingly optimistic sometimes

>>32199200
It manage to cap the entry points and it's trying to KO Metagross with Whimsi now. I have no idea why it likes Whimsi so much.

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Is this thing any good for league matches? Will it be any good for the gym? everyone is going to be using the 3MP fire pokemon while this is only 1MP

>>32198764
>Sylveon

>>32199208
And it somewhat managed to win the match, it won 3 times in a row even.

>>32199223
did you even read the description? Rhyperior is fucking awesome

>>32199223
Why do people get so assblasted over a figure having 1MP?
Do they play like such retards that they constantly get caught out of position if they don't have a 3MP crutch?
Do they think only Hurdle Jump and Goal Block exist as plates?
Have they never looked at a figure that isn't Reuniclus?

>>32199257
>lol why do people think a figure that moves three times slower than their other figures is bad?

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>>32199257
People have different playstyles.

>>32199287
Like fucking pottery.
What's wrong, sub-2800 faggot? Can't apply pressure without Deoxys holding your dick?

>win 11 games in a row a few days ago
>2700 league score
>play an hour ago after not don't play for 2 days
>lose 3 games in a row

fuck, this game is hardcore about rust

>>32199303
no retard. some people don't like the fucking trash mobility of 1MP figures.

>>32195557
Well yeah because I can't beat Renu cancer or Deo spam either way.

>>32199313
If you haven't played for that lomg, your first game would have been against a bot

>>32199349
>sub 2500
>"muh Deo and Renu spam!!"
shut the fuck up lol. you haven't seen shit.

>>32199374
is this true? anyone know what qualifies as a long time?

>>32199384
Maybe like 36 hours, or a bit more than that. I've gotten two bots after not playing for around that amount of time, they're usually at around 1900 or 2000 rating and have a team with EXes and/or rares (some have triple weavile, I've also seen one with Lugia, Ho-Oh, Glaceon).

A few threads back, a guy who had a second duel account posted a screen of these bots, which appeared for him since he didn't play on the second duel account very often

So it's basically a "welcome back bot" that has a meta-looking team, but plays randomly like bugbot and usually never attacks

how do i know when i can have the pokenon

>>32199985
no pokenon for you

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So I have about 700 gems but a mediocre team. Should I buy a bunch of 4-packs or hold out for 6ers and git gud with what I got??

>>32199999
replace giratina and maybe druddigon too

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>>32199999
T-those digits...
sexpacks never ever, give in and buy quads

>>32199999
Wait for a better rotation to buy quads from. Just keep opening time and key boosters.

is it worth buying quads right now? are the current pokemon decent enough? or shoud I wait for next rotation

>>32200044
From what I understand, Rhyperior is garbage and Heatran is ok. So, no?

>>32200064
>Rhyperior is garbage
No

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>>32200044
total EXs available: 8

good EXs: 3
Ho-Oh
Reshiram
Moltres


Decent EXs: 4
Heatran
Magmortar
Rhyperior
Delphox

Not quite good enough: 1
Torterra

Overall its a pretty decent lineup, but the first 3 are the only ones you would take a while to replace in a deck. The others are just fillers if you have nothing better

>>32200064
Rhyperior would be good if it wasn't soo damn slow, and heatran is pretty fun.

>>32200070
>less reliable Multi-Hit than Jobninja
>A worse Flame Gun
>A Blue
>1MP
>NOT hot garbage

>>32200182
>>less reliable Multi-Hit than Jobninja
That does 100 damage minimum
>>A Blue
>bad
?
>>A worse Flame Gun
>>1MP
True and valid

>>32200182
>less reliable Multi-Hit than Jobninja
it already hits 100 without evolving, just clv it up to 101 and you're good
>A worse Flame Gun
still an useful purple
>A Blue
how is that bad?, birds have a blue that make them get wait 3 and they're fine
>1MP
this is it's only problem, if it wasn't for that it would be used in the same way that chesnaught was used before the deo/reu cancer.

>>32200182
blues in general are arguably the best moves in the game (excluding past mew and present mewtwo) and rhyperior has the bestest blue

>>32200214
>birds have a blue that make them get wait 3 and they're fine
That's because the birds are already strong. They don't mind having a Blue that just stalls.
I have literally never rolled Roost and thought "oh sweet I got Roost."

>>32200219
>>32200202
>blues
>literally just stall turns
>this Blue lets me set up surrounds every day of the week

PSA: Blues are only good when you threaten the goal, which will only happen with 3MP figures.

mb I thought the mutli-hit attack was 60x

>>32200268
>PSA: Blues are only good when you threaten the goal, which will only happen with 3MP figures.
Nothing in this sentence is true.

>>32200279
no respectable player will let a 2MP, god forbid a 1MP, get close enough to capture the goal without the use of a Hurdle Jump.

The only time this will happen is in the case of being pushed back since the 2MP figure is strong enough to run though your team. In this case, a Blue won't matter, since your team is being crushed by it.

>>32200337
what rating do you consider a 'respectable player'?

>>32200360
Rating doesn't matter. You can drop 500 rating in an hour if you get unlucky.
I consider a respectable player someone that plays the game well and uses proper positioning in proper situations depending on the opponents team stacked to their own. Doesn't take risks if they don't have to unless are in a position where they can afford a bad roll.

>>32200268
>PSA: Blues are only good when you threaten the goal, which will only happen with 3MP figures.
i have been saved multiple times by rolling blue when the opponent used a plate to power up their figures,

>>32200360
I'm guessing he's around 2600, so his idea of respectable is a drooling retard.
Don't give him any (you)s. Either he's obviously trolling, or he's unironically bad enough to require a 3MP crutch to apply pressure on a goal and he genuinely doesn't understand what application a literal free turn has when it comes to securing objectives.

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Huh,never exected this to happen and definitely not from a purple box

>>32200415
yeah he gave a 'shitter that knows his rating sucks' response by pretending it doesnt matter
no good player loses 500 rating ever

>>32200415
>everyone at 2600 is a drooling retard
stop spewing shit if you want to be taken seriously. This is the only (You) you get from me.

>>32200412
and I'm sure a nice effective purple that did something other than "ha you didn't kill me this turn." would've been better.

White < Purple
Purple < Yellow
Yellow < White
is the perfect cycle of moves. Blue is literally only there to do nothing.

>>32200523
call a nigga good when they roll a hot miss to a lower rank player and bomb 50 rank.
man said you can drop 500, and damn straight you can. people in this thread have dropped tons of rank in a day from bad luck. it happens. only place it doesn't happen is down in the shitter ranks, where you can come back from two bad rolls. you cop a bad roll vs Deo and you might as well just close the app.

>>32200614
unless you made a bad deal with satan you're never losing 500 rating in one hour
once you drop 100 or so you'll be getting matched with far lower players and if you're still losing then its your own fault

>>32200545
>and I'm sure a nice effective purple that did something other than "ha you didn't kill me this turn." would've been better.
not really with the amount of yellow pokemon that there are there.

>Blue is literally only there to do nothing.
Nothing happening sometimes is the best outcome, especially if it's on some figure blocking or defending.

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Are there any good poison types for when we get the inevitable grass/poison gym?

There aren't really any poison lengendaries for the devs to put out. I'm guessing this is when they'll finally put in Gengar since that's one of the only poison pokemon I can think of getting an EX figure. They might save that for the ghost gym though. I'm guessing if they do, then we'll get Meganium/Celebi as either of our EXs for that gym then.

So back to decent poison figures already in the game, what are our options? Arbok, Golbat, and Wheezing? 6x Tentacool team? Venusaur will be kind of OP since it's getting both buffs. We don't really have many. On the other hand, we don't have that many great grass types either, besides Venusaur of course (and Leafeon, but it's not benefitting from the MP buff).

The people bashing '2600 players' are the ones that just hit 2601 on the day they make those posts. Bet.

>>32200545
Rhyperior's blue is literally hariyama's purple

d-does rhyperior Blue effect activate against other blues?

>>32200674
>yfw Alola comes to Duel for the Grass Gym and Nihilego is the hot new EX on the block

>>32200691
The majority of regulars here are between 2800-3000

>>32200674
>There aren't really any poison lengendaries for the devs to put out.
Gen 7 when

>6x Tentacool team?
Best meme team, it's what I'll be using in the x/poison and poison/x gyms

>>32200674
EX Crobat and Muk when?

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>>32200674
there arent many good ones in either grass or poison

>>32200708
I've only seen 2 players post homescreens with their rank above 3k (Shrugsy and the Trapinch guy). Haven't seen any other 2800+ players besides Shikari when he was around, I'm gonna need some receipts to take you up on that claim

>>32200708
rank is like penis.
of course only high rank people are going to post them.

>>32200749
do you want to see my penis

>>32200697
no, it counts as a tie and neither effect goes off

>>32200743
we did a strawpoll ages ago and the majority was around 2.5k from what I can remember, but who knows if it was honest
if it was though, I'd imagine those people would be around 2.8k by now at least

>>32200652
I exaggerated to prove the point better. Sue me.

>>32200655
>literally Mew, Gren, Zapdos.
>soooo many yellows oh myyy

>>32200655
>Nothing happening sometimes is the best outcome
You would rather status with a good purple or knock them out with a good attack.

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>>32199200

>ALL those times when I say "what would Carlo do?" and I manage to rush to the goal with just one figure

>>32200743
>Shikari
New blog update when?

>>32200769
he quit after a bad rng streak

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>>32200652
you can also lose 500 rank in an hour by winning too. It's happened to me and it sucks. I went from like 2300 to 1700 just by "winning." Sometimes the servers just completely shit themselves. The game kept making me fight Bug Bot and I won every time but they always counted as losses for some reason. I restarted my phone, cleared my cache, etc. everything I could think of. It finally stopped after I waited a day and opened a timed booster. I still have no explanation for what happened

>>32200777
rip

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lemmie weigh in on this Blue attack business.

A Blue move is almost never a problem for a figure.
Sure, you stall a turn, but is that really bad? If the opponent doesn't know how to play the game, stalling one of their turns out is great, because it means you can move something up the board and pressure them from there.
and if they did position, you have a chance to flee or switch and save your figure that was being pressured by that attack.

as another anon said, Blues can frequently kill Plates such as Double Chance.

the only way a Blue is bad, is if you really need to net the kill that turn and no more turns can be wasted.

>>32200777
A reminder not to play under tilt. Also, nice ironic digits.

>>32200777
>high rank player gets bad rng streak and quits
>""Shitter"" claims that everyone can get bad rng and lose tons of rank
adds up.

>>32200777
oh no that's actually really sad. I liked watching him go up in ranks since he seemed like a nice guy and didn't have a cancer team

>>32200762
That's a pretty weak measure. I don't want to advocate higher ranked people attention whoring, but the last few instances of 'post your homescreens' yielded mostly players in the 2200-2700 range. It's very possible that there's shitters itt acting hard behind anonymity and bashing a rank that they themselves have yet to hit, in order to drive home their opinion

>>32200769
He tilted and uninstalled the app lol

>>32200802
>only running two darks and expecting it to work
lul

>>32200800
you can fluctuate maybe 300 rating but your average will still be a good reflection of your skill level and pieces

to say that rating doesn't matter at all just indicates that the person is aware their rating is low and is making an excuse for it

>>32200766
>literally Mew, Gren, Zapdos.
>soooo many yellows oh myyy
It's not like they're in every team that isn't a deoxys deck or something...

>You would rather status with a good purple or knock them out with a good attack.
you already have a decent attack and decent purple, also with 2 purples it becomes Yveltal, which is a good figure but it gets fucked really hard by mews

>>32200834
my rating isn't that bad. My peak is 2700 and fluctuate around the 2600's
thought i still firmly think that rating is not a direct one:one to a players skill.

>>32200846
nobody runs all three. It's just two at most you have to deal with. Just position your figures better.

Ry gets fucked by Mew anyway, what are you on about?

>>32200865
obviously not, but to outright say it doesnt matter is ridiculous
you can comfortably assume that someone 500 rating above someone else is either a better player or has better pieces

>>32199303
>not deranking on purpose so you can actually enjoy the game when there is no gym

i was at 2700 but decided to fuck around and drop down to 2500, best decision i've ever made in my life. no more deoxys reinculus fucking cancer. and when i get back to 2700 i will do the same thing.

>>32200877
>Ry gets fucked by Mew anyway, what are you on about?
that you were suggesting that Ryperior should have another purple instead of blue, that would make it get even more fucked by figures like Mew, Zapdos and maybe greninja, which are really common figures.

do you guys actually grind story mode for fusion fodder?

I feel like this is something everyone is claiming to do but then actually doesn't. Shit's boring as hell and is killing my phone's battery life

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>dark energy needs two dark pokemon on the field to activate meanwhile cosmo energy doesn't require 2 deoxys on the field to activate

BALANCE YOUR FUCKING GAME TPC

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>>32200914
its boring and slow but what other way are you going to get xp?

Sexpacks when?

>>32201056
Nebber

>>32201092
Nebby when?

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>>32200743
I'm sure there are plenty more nonshitters lurking

>>32200925
also it requieres to keep the 2 dark pokemon alive or you lose the effect.

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im shit

ps electivire pls

>>32201472
read your damn announcements

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>>32201481
no there are too many

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>>32200777
Did he really quit ovet a fucking losing streak I went from 1 win away to 2300 to 2130 because RNG and I dick kicked my way back to Master rank and now I'm too scared to fight any more matches because I'm afraid RNG is gonna fuck me up the ass for getting to Master rank help me I don't wanna go back down to the abyss

>>32201566
not just because of it, but it was his tipping point
he got sick of how much variance there was

>>32201583
I'd take variety over gotta go fast deoxys, respinning jellybabbies, soar birds, and ebin infiltrator ghosts decks any day of the week. Shikari is just being a faggot.

>>32201566
Just wait a few days and let the rating anxiety settle. I got relegated from Masters and stabilized my rating to about mid-tier Master (2600-2800). Just focus on grinding boosters to improve your team.

>>32201583
t. Shikari

>>32201603
no VARIETY, VARIANCE
as in how much sway RNG can have over a game

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>>32201566
the trick is to run 4 gotta go fasts. guranteed 2600 vr

>>32200733
leafeon is a decent runner. sleep inducer and can pair well with whimsicott/chestnaught with its ability

>>32201695
whoops yeah, overlooked him, consider him dotted as well

so i have never really look into it, but a frozen pokemon will lose against any attack, no matter how weak it is?

>>32201719
as long as its 1 or more, yes

if it goes against a 0 or something else that doesnt knock it out (like a miss or dodge) then it unfreezes

>>32200891
I do this but just so I can win boosters with whatever shitmon meme/theme deck I managed to come up with this week.

It's pretty fun. And I feel pity for all those common/uncommon figs sitting in my collection I never ever see other people use.

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fuck it, it was worth it

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>>32201735
bra fucking vo

>>32201735
reunis are shit when paralyzed, definitely worth it

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>>32201802
Please remove this image from your computer at once

>>32201735
Zapdos is fucking broken.

>>32201917
Imagine if it was Articuno

>>32201941
i thought articuno couldn't freeze more than 3 mons at a time? am i wrong?

>>32201941
Shit terrifies me. I've only seen it a couple of times because I'm a low rank scrub but every time I see that fucking purple I make sure I'm paying more attention than normal to my figures' spacing.

>>32201956
Pretty sure it chains just like Zapdos. Moltres too. Nothing in the attack description states a limit

>>32201956
>>32201989
Actually, reading it, it does say "adjacent to", while Thunder Charge says "in the same row" and Flame Charge says "and any directly behind it"

Huh. Never noticed the differences.

>>32202006
Meant for >>32201997, not >>32201989

>>32202006
so what exactly does this mean?
can someone make a chart?

>>32202022
Honestly I don't know. "Same row" to me doesn't indicate almost the whole field like it happened, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>32202006
>>32202022
>>32202047
I've always assumed they all meant anything connected even though they say different things. But I have no idea how it really works and can't test it since I don't have the figures.

>>32202071
Articuno will freeze everything it is touching, Zap will freeze everything in the same row, and Molt will burn just the Pokemon behind the space.

>>32202100
Yes, one would be inclined to believe the effect is exactly what is says in game. Until you see some shit like this happen >>32201735 >>32202047

>>32201657
how useful is Lucario for you? I can never make it work

>>32202100
I think Moltres burns everything behind the Pokemon regardless of space or if its touching it.

>>32202149
I've used it since its release and I still don't know how it works.

I -think- it can burn any pokemon in a straight vertical line behind the thing it starts a combat with to activate flame charge. I know it also works horizontally though; if Moltres is on their left entry and I burn a figure on my direct right, the whole row of figures on my opponent's goal line gets burned

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>>32202148
he matches my playstyle perfectly. i needed a 2mp with a giant blue and an instant knockout purple that the opponent would be afraid to battle against.

probably better to replace him with deo-a if i had one... (or maybe even a bird if you aren't trying to use him the way i am)

>>32202047
>>32202071
>>32202149
Articuno - freezes everything adjacent to Articuno
Moltres - burns everything down one straight row
Zapdos - paralyzes all enemies in a "chain" (if youre touching the starting Pokemon, or any after that, you are paralyzed)

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>win 2 consecutive leagues
>beat bugbot
>beat next guy
>win 3 league matches in a row
>beat next guy
>2 more

Fuck this

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>Mew from a White Booster
What the fuck

Is discount Zapdos any good?

>>32202453
I honestly don't get why they made them so broken, single target was good enough. Hell, if their purple did nothing they'd still be good.

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Which one of you faggots was this?

>>32203373
>triple reuniclus
>2573

>>32203379
I go against full deoxys teams 2/3 of the time and have no gold user to deal with Deoxys D in the rare case Deoxys A jobs

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Post avatars

>>32201472
Oh hey, I've seen a few of your replays
You play like you're retarded but you manage to keep winning somehow

>>32203359
they're fine, the purple works in a way that will end their turn if they use it, so they're prone to fuck themselves and it gives enough time for the opponent to separate their pieces or get fucked.

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>>32203897
>tfw i play like a retard
>tfw i might end up on the featured duel page

Anyone else having insane luck today?

Was on 2050 earlier now I'm on 2300. Played a 2600 reunicuck who had both my entry points, was about to have my goal surrounded and I just walked the field with a Rhyperior pushing his heatmor back until I hit his home spot. Played a 2500 who attacked my shuppet on his first go, he hit a dodge, I get on his entry point he attacks again and I hit burn.

When do people get good at this game? If I didn't have such shit figures I'd be so much higher.

Gym when?

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this god damn rhino just steamrolled over my entire base
even after he got burned on the first fight and lose his giant blue he still pulled this shit
not like metagross ever puts up much of a fight anyway of course

>Let the AI play
>He acts what seems to be utterly retarded (like not moving at max range and stopping before getting an entry point)
>He actually setup a win condition and won

It makes tons of risky moves though, but also almost never fails them, wouldn't be surprised if it has a rigged rng

>>32204451
I got one but 1mp is too much for my autism

>enemy runs reuniclus up to my metagross and attacks it
>confuses my metagross
>he spends about 7 turns ramming his reuniclus and deoxys-A against metagross trying to kill it
>confused into dodge every single time

I wish metagross was confused by default

>>32204513
It's the right type of design for a 1mp fig though
a juggernaut that just mows down everything in its path pretty well
If the early 1mp figs were like him then the game would be in a much different state now

Timer increase to 25m each when?

>>32204539
I think 10m each would be reasonable
even 8 minutes

>>32204429
>good luck for me = everyone else is shit at this game
kys

>>32204429
Post your team

>>32204429
There's a reason people say sub 2300 is tutorial mode

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>rainbow shine on gold booster
>both are EX
>it's these jokers
Why do they still exist

>>32204539
>>32204547
So people can ragequit and instead of making you wait 5 minutes you wait 25?

>>32204689
inactivity should auto kick or individual turns should have their own limits

>>32204675
>boo hoo I have three EXs and one of them is a Zapdos woe is me :'(
Fuck off

>>32204742
2 terrible EXs and a duplicate

it's a get 10 shards by losing to six deoxys teams so you can fight bug bot twice episode

>>32204664
Shuppet
Vibrava
Charmeleon->Charizard
Wobuffet
Salamance
Rhyperior

Just entered masters and I'm on my longest win streak of 8.

>>32204648
I keep playing people who are making stupid moves and getting punished for it. Like attacking my shuppet on their first go with pokemon with a large dodge/miss. I only need 2 fights to not go against me to win instantly. I've won about 6 times in the last 2 days from shuppet rushing at the start. I'm seeing fewer and fewer kirlia/gardevoir.

>>32203897
lol that sounds like me

>>32204078
its gonna happen. on of my favorite plays is baiting an opponent to take both of my entry points when i have a figure in counter attack range. or i just jam jolteons hoping one paralyzes an opponent upon dying. or just rushing metagross

>>32204539
once you know team lineups, most of the games play the same.
if you cant see the moves ahead of time, youre doing it wrong and you deserve the time loss.

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thoughts?

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>>32205986
Pretty rad.
I would move Magmortar up a rank and Manaphy down a rank, that's about all I would change.

>>32205986
Move Deo S and Moltres to A
Drop Greninja to B

Otherwise,I've got no issue

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>>32206025
Magmortar is shite if you don't roll Flame Gun.
I was going to put him in C originally but I thought Flame Gun was just too good to not be B.
definitely not A though.

I do agree on Manaphy though. I guess I was still thinking about synergies in the back of my head when I put it there.

>>32206052
Yeah, thinking about it now, a 40 on a 3MP that can run all the way to threaten the goal in one turn is A-worthy, even without the plate.
I don't think Moltres is that good though. It's Purple is generally useless and Roost doesn't do it any favors, and those take up pretty much half the wheel. Add in the Miss and the weaker attack, and it really doesn't seem A-material.

As for Greninja, a 3MP with a huge Yellow and Blue is easily well deserving of A-rank in my opinion. Why don't you think so?

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>End up against an oppoenent with 2 Deoxys A, 2 Deoxys S, 1 Deoxys D and 1 Shuppet with Cosmo Plate and Scoop Up
>I plain resign from the match so I use my AI tickets since I never use them and let Carlo play the game

>Check the game 3 minutes later
>I'm surrounding his Deoxys D and I'm literally two steps from winning
>Win

Thanks Don Roger

>>32206187
>As for Greninja, a 3MP with a huge Yellow and Blue is easily well deserving of A-rank in my opinion. Why don't you think so?

Because while the huge yellow is certainly a big boon, Water Shuriken tends to crumble against pretty much any other figure outside of the rare occasion Greninja wants to break 100 with it.

Also, don't doubt burn status. The combination of a miss piece and damage reduction can really screw some figures over.

>>32206299
>Meet an opponent with a 25 gold Greninja
>It still jobs hard turn two

>>32205986
>>32206187
It's fair but the fact you don't take in account possible synergies and plates will make a new player think Deoxys D is bad when in reality you will see it switching like a motherfucker with Deoxys A and be the most annoying cunt you will ever meet.

>>32205986
>>32206187
>Huh? There's a Keldeo figure?
>look it up
Totally splashing this in my Deo deck to counter Weavile fags 100% chance of success
But really, having an attack with 51 power is fucking weird. Are there any other figures that have moves that aren't multiples of 10 without increasing their CL?

>>32205986
Are you counting Metagross' rapid calculation's niche of countering Reuniclus and Deoxys-A, or does 'no synergies' apply to that as well? If you are counting it, Meta has a case for A-rank.

Your lower tiers are pretty bad though. Infernape and Garchomp are good mid-range attackers that can kill most runners easily. Infernape has a large gold and Garchomp has a purple that lets him jump an enemy. Both of these are pretty useful under the right circumstances. While it's nice to have a team full of bulky 100 attack-plus fuckers, you can almost always set up a good matchup against a runner with a figure like Infernape or Garchomp, and gain a positional advantage. They aren't amazing and definitely have their flaws, but they're good for teams on a budget and shouldn't be in the same caliber as garbage like the Sinnoh trio, solo Manaphy and unevolved Dragonite.

I'd move Zygarde down to E because Land's Wrath requires some synergy in teambuilding in order to avoid your purple attackers being wiped out. Even on a synergetic team, it's far weaker than most other 1mp Pokemon.

Empoleon and Keldeo could also be moved down to E. Empoleon's ability is nice but it's been power creeped to hell. Keldeo is really mediocre outside of rain teams and any attacker with a large white, or even an X-Attacked runner almost always gets the free kill on Keldeo.

Finally, Heatran into B. It's ability is fucking legit and it's giant purple can be quite useful if you ever have to go on the offensive with it.

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>>32207050
Actually here's a pic

>>32205986
>>32207069
As nice as they are, why aren't you taking evolutions into account outside of where Speed Booster happens?

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>>32206299
debated this quite a bit with myself.
overall came to agree.

>>32207050
Yes, I am counting the Metagross Ability.
I am also counting the fact that it sucks as it is now. Having it need on the field is a critical flaw, especially for a 1MP.

Infernape is hot garbage that I refuse to move.
As a 2MP, a max 80 with no ability or purple is just sad, and well it does have a decent Yellow, it just doesn't hold up to the rest of the figure. It well deserves the rank it has now, under figures like Deo-N. You say it doesn't belong next to the Sinnoh Legends, yet I see all these figures in the same light. They don't fill any niche and the best they can do is fill the roll of better figures until you get them.

As for Zygarde, It's other attacks make up for the potential bad his purple can do. His purple can also be amazing based on the opponents team. He is fine next to niche figures like Aggron.

Keldeo is a 3MP with 51. That alone gives it a major edge in the early game. However due to the miss size and the fact that it lacks abilities or purples, it remains in that tier.

Empoleon has a crazy good niche ability that changes how the game is played. If it had good attacks, it would easily be A-rank. But for now, it rests next to the other sub-par figures.

I can agree on Heatan and Garchomp though.
I do admit I thought Heatran was only 1MP when I made this. Haven't seen him very much.

>>32207106
Speed Booster is a major change to the figures viability. A boost from 1MP to 2MP is huge.
They might as well be completely different figures.

>>32207178
>They might as well be completely different figures.
Did I say not to take Speed Booster into consideration?
No, I said the opposite.

>>32207188
I thought you meant "why do you only consider evolutions that have Speed Booster, and not the evolution of figures without Speed Booster?"

is that not it?

>>32207216
Right, and then you went on to explain what Speed Booster does instead of addressing that.

>>32207178
Mewtwo should be D rank - even though his blue and white attacks are subpar, his purple is crazy good on either goal row.

>>32205986
it's shit

>>32206187
Do one for R's.

>>32207223
No, what I meant by that is the boost makes the evolved figures completely different, whereas a normal evolution doesn't make nearly as much of a difference to warrant a new place on the list.

>>32207225
His Blue might as well be a miss.
His 70 is subpar.
His Purple doesn't make a difference most of the time, and the the large purple keeps him scared of Yellow Rushers.
That niche of being good when attacking towards the goal line is just way too small to boost him next to something like the Gen 5 Legends.

>>32207230
I might another day if I get some more free time on my hands.

>>32207286
>No, what I meant by that is the boost makes the evolved figures completely different, whereas a normal evolution doesn't make nearly as much of a difference to warrant a new place on the list.
So putting Gardevoir, Empoleon, and Lucario above curve, or letting Infernape and Delphox check Mew isn't worth mentioning?

>>32207305
Yes. They are fairly low increases at the high cost of running bad pre-evo figures.
High Risk Low Reward. No thanks.

Nobody is running these pre-evo figures.
The only one I see is Kirlia, maybe once every 20 games, and only because some see her as better than Gardevoir.
If you have a Lucario, you run it as Lucario. Nobody evolves it.

>>32207435
>bad pre-evo figures.
???
Monferno is above curve, Kirlia is in a class of its own, Riolu can match curve, the list goes on

>Nobody is running these pre-evo figures.
No one is running a majority of these shit EXs either but you still decided to include tiers below S, so what the fuck is your point?

>>32207453
>Riolu can match curve
riolu is lucky if it doesn't die against mew's 50dmg attack, you need to carry an attack X just to have a good chance at evolving and even if you evolve it you get a lucario with 2 stars and 80 attack, not worth it at all.

>>32207496
So EXs only being able to match Mew after evolving doesn't matter, but Riolu losing to Mew is suddenly so, so, so important?

>>32207178
reshiram and zekrom should definitely be in A or B even as solo pieces

Mewtwo should be in D at the least

whats the point of a 'speed booster active' version when you're not factoring easiness to evolve?

the difficulty to evolve those figs is what makes them bad

>>32207453
>???
Yes, they are BAD FIGURES.
Bad figures that give you a mediocre bonus when you manage to evolve them.
You can talk about "curves" all you want. You are wrong. There are no people who run evolving Riolu, dispite it "matching curve". On the other hand, Lucario is seen as a strong purple attacker with a nice dodge. It is used.

>No one is running a majority of these shit EXs either but you still decided to include tiers below S, so what the fuck is your point?
Why get so hostile all of a sudden?

Anyway, tons of people run Lucario.
Nobody runs Riolu.
some people run Empoleon as a niche.
Nobody runs Prinplup.
some people run Delphox.
nobody runs Braixen.
Lower tiers have Infernape use.
and no Monferno.

get it yet? nobody wants to take the risk of having a worthless figure for the small benefit of "aha, now I have 10 more damage and my purple is stronger!"

They are not worth the space on the list.

>>32207513
i should have put in there that i wasn't the anon you were talking to but

>So EXs only being able to match Mew after evolving doesn't matter
the fuck you're talking?, most of those EX kills mew without the need to evolve as long as they don't roll purple

>but Riolu losing to Mew is suddenly so, so, so important?
i was just pointing how you said riolu can match the curve when actually is total shit that only someone who wants to get fucked would use.

>>32207550
i do run Prinplup just because of it's ability, i use it to kill mews and evolve it to empoleon, but if i had a Heatran i would change it in an instant

>>32207550
I'm getting upset because you spent however the fuck many years putting together a tier list that INCLUDES pure garbage like Dialga and Snorlax and Giratina

But then when someone even SUGGESTS that you maybe take a core gameplay mechanic into consideration, you're suddenly typing out wordcap posts about how it's not even worth considering even though there IS an impact that lets them better deal with C, B, A, and S-tier figures.

Can you seriously not connect these dots in your head?

>>32207550
people do run riolu, prinplup and braixen though

>>32207531
Give me some reasoning at least.

I know evolving the figures is hard. I have people up my ass right now about these fucking evolving figures.
If I didn't try to take Speed Booster into consideration, I have no doubt people would tell me all about it.
I can't please everyone. These are the ranks assuming you pulled the evolution off.

>>32207581
I have the bad EX Figures on here because they are EX Figures. They go on the EX Tier List.

I added the Speed Booster evolutions because the difference they make is large enough to where they are completely different figures that dramatically change from if they were not evolved.

10 damage more to kill a Mew means fuck all.
I am not taking your suggestion. Stop trying to force it on me. I have given you my reasoning.

How many 3MP figures should I limit myself to? I'm currently running Glaceon and Leafeon and I'd like to add Mew to my team, but I feel like I'll lose a bit of push momentum if I swap Leafeon out and just save Mew for opposing Deos and Yveltals

>>32207581
you remind me of that fag that kept preaching Genesent a few months back.
you word your posts pretty similarly and have the same mindset, lol.

>>32207679
You only need 2.
One for when you go first.
One to block goal against Deoxys S.

>>32207688
>Genesectfag
oh boy, i still remember that fucker, so baaaad...

>>32207665
>10 damage more to kill a Mew means fuck all.
Evolution allows certain figures to check or pass Birds, Lugia, Xernease/Yveltal, Reshiram/Zekrom, Ho-oh, Metagross, and a number of your C/D/E rogues that still fit into 2800+ comps.

You're not actually putting forward an argument as to why you're arbitrarily ignoring an entire gameplay mechanic.
You keep talking about Speed Booster as if someone suggested you not include that, which no one has.
You're suggesting you didn't consider evolution because it's an EX tier list...but we're talking about things that evolve INTO EX Pokemon.
You're discussing the viability of these pre-evolution Pokemon as if that disqualifies them from being considered, yet you didn't even consider the viability of Charmeleon or Dragonair when weighing in Speed Booster.

All of your arguments are either non-sequiturs or a double standard.

>I am not taking your suggestion. Stop trying to force it on me. I have given you my reasoning.
I'm sorry, I didn't know you were the ultimate authority when it comes to discussing a children's mobile gacha game.

>>32205986
Aggron should be S

>>32207751
not him but everything you just said is bullshit lol.
shut the fuck up already.

>>32207831
Socrates shed a tear at how eloquently you've worded your argument, way to represent the game's target demographic.

>>32207842
It isn't an argument. I'm saying you're fucking stupid and wrong.

>>32207861
And I'm saying you're incapable of actually discussing the game. You're literally shitposting in the classical sense of the word.

>>32207867
I'm not trying to discuss the game with you. I'm telling you that you're wrong and stupid.
Get your head out of your ass, retard.

>>32207751
I do not want to add them, I think it is dumb. I have told you why. You do not listen. Fuck off.
Just imagine everything that evolves one rank up if you care so much.

>>32207901
I genuinely couldn't tell you weren't, I assumed your idea of discussion just normally defaulted to autistic shitposting and repetition.

There's nothing left to discuss. If anyone cares, they can follow the reply chain and see your failure to actually address any points.

>>32207949
>posts a tier list
>asks for thoughts
>fails to form an argument when someone calls you out on missing the point
>"nevermind this is dumb just go away retard"
nice

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I've been keeping track of the matchups I face in league mode to get a bit of an idea of the meta

Sample size is too small to make much of but its still pretty clear
Classifications coming up after this post

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>>32208023
13 out of 28 were deoxys decks
such a snoozefest

>>32208023
>Magmar, Quilladin, Kirlia, Ralts
>"N-no one uses those! Not viable! Not worth considering!!"

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Well, I thought the list was pretty good.
Poor guy just didn't want to go though the trouble of adding all those evolutions.

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>>32203855
So much diversity in options!

>>32203855
>>32208271
I just treat avatars as a way to show off your best mask because everything looks like trash

>>32208023
>The top ladder player (3400 guy) who is 200 monthly rating above the #2 runs Deoxys-A and Metagross on the same team

What the fuck?

Or does Meta's ability not cancel your own figures' respins?

>>32208298
it does cancel your own
its antisynergy but they're both still good enough for some people to justify doing that

>>32203855
Thanks doc

>>32208064
The players using those are 2500-2700 but nice try

Should I buy Deoxys-A or Zekrom for my Reshiram?

Nerf shitters do not need to apply. It's been... two months? and Deoxys haven't been nerfed yet.

>>32208064
>Magmar
Magmortar is p okay, but Magmar is going to get fucked by most things and even dies half the time to Mew's Hypersonic.
>Quilladin
Good vs Mew, but giving Chesnaught 100 damage makes it ironically even more susceptible to Mew bullying. Chesnaught is only okay because it can beat Mew at 90 damage.
>Kirlia
Only good due to its purple, which is only about 1/4 chance to happen.
>Ralts
Literally can do nothing to Mew except imprison Psychic, which makes Mew even better.

Try again buddy.

>>32208298
Meta doesn't work if it's on the bench, and you honestly don't need all six figures on the board to win

>>32208415
Who the fuck said anything about Mew
Or have you genuinely been misreading posts this entire time

Not that it matters, there's objective proof of those figures showing up in 2500+

>destroy a 2300 shitter all game
>gets crazy good rolls that if he didn't get he woud have lost right there.
>roll miss three times
>lose
>drop 60 rank
Fuck this game.

>>32208298
>Or does Meta's ability not cancel your own figures' respins?
Yes but what do you prefer?
> A) being able to force the opponent to respin once, but you get fucked by Reuniclus that even if they roll 1 miss, they still can respin by themselves into something useful like confusion, which totally makes your deoxis become garbage
or
> B) Losing your ability to force respin on the opponent, you still have your 130 dmg deoxis, but Reuniclus decks become a JOKE, because the only move that beat deoxis A is their confuse that they now have to cross their fingers for them to be able

>>32208429
Literally just joined the conversation, didn't know what you were talking about. Still though, just because they're used by one person doesn't make them any good.

>>32208429
One of the main niche that evomons fill is countering Mew by using it as evobait. Even if the opponent doesn't send Mew forward, the threat of evolution disincentivizing the use of a top tier runner early game is a reason why it's decent. If you're advocating the viability of evolution mons, you should be aware of this

That said, it's still a tech that is on the fringes of the meta. It doesn't show up past 3k in that screen, or even past 2800

>>32208462
Yeah that's fair. I guess you'd also end up seeing a bunch of Metagross on opposing dark energy/reshizek teams at that rank too

>>32208480
Just yesterday someone was saying that most people arent 2800+ here or something like that

should 2500 meta not be considered in discussions?

>>32208505
>reshizek teams at that rank too
that's one exquisite meme you got there buddy

>>32208508
If you're not ranked in the top five than your opinion is automatically discarded

>>32209419
Rhyperior should've kept "Lucky"

>opponents delphox keeps missing
>opponent keeps reviving goal block

well that was annoying

>>32208064
I can understand Kirlia/Ralts. Why would you wanna use Magmar/Quilladin for? they seem shit tier

>>32209803
I assume Magmar is for making a Salamance that kills you with its purple instead of leaping over you and Quilladin for turning Chesnaught into an alternate Blastoise

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My current team is feeling really bland lately, always hovering around 2400~2500 rank.
Build me a new team /pdg/, I dont care if it's meme or viable or anything, can even just be a couple figs different from my current one, but I feel like something new.

>>32209851
Going on absolutely nothing here.
Natu/Gabite->Garchomp/Articuno/Shuppet/Golbat/something with sleep or burn. I recommend not sticking with this team for very long.

>>32209851
imo ditch salemance. i used him forever and just stopped being viable above 2400. put in articuno.

maybe swap whimsicott for another mew

yvetal i don't really get the hype, too easy to beat with mew/a clv 1 zapdos. either another blastoise or good 3mp (could keep whimsicott or fuck it, three mews)

>>32209914
>yvetal i don't really get the hype, too easy to beat with mew/a clv 1 zapdos

this is such a poor argument
you can say you dont get the hype for zapdos because its too easy to beat with a clv 1 yveltal

>>32209851
Magikarp>Gyarados
Audino
Blastoise
2 Mew (you lucky shit)
Metagross

>>32209920
in regards to his team, a clv 1 zapdos with a 101 thunder crash is an automatic win because his yveltal is at clv 0. i guess icould have worded that better

also, a clv 1 yveltal still has too high of a chance to lose to zapdos of any clv because more than 50% of its dial is purple or red and zapdos' gold, while not stupid huge, is still pretty sizable

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>>32209943

this doesn't account for a 101 thunder crash

add 15.28% if so, to make 36.18 percent, higher if thunder crash is leveled up

maybe my views are skewed because i run a clv 2 zapdos and when i pit it against yveltal, it wins waaay more often then not

>>32210041
meant to reply to >>32209978

>>32210041
it also doesnt account for a 110 oblivion wing, you cant compare them like that

you only compare at equal clvls

>>32210046
as i said before, i was talking about HIS clv 0 yveltal

also, i did my math wrong, it kicks to 35.42% chance of a knock out

>>32210063
well then he can just put a chain on it

you're making false equivalencies

>>32210077
yeah you're right, he could. but as is, too vulnerable to a clv 1 zapdos (in my experience, common in the current meta) or a mew

>>32209898
>>32209914
>>32209925
Thanks anons, Will have a play around and see what sticks

>>32209851
Damn you seem to be collecting all the same shitty EX figures that I am. Wish I had a Gyara though.

I think your current team is actually pretty good if you put Aticuno over Salamence. Salamence is way too easy to kill in this meta and fly away isn't as threatening to attackers as Articuno's 90 dmg or Ice Charge can be.

here's another team tho:

Yveltal/Umbreon/Mew/Metagross/Gyarados/Articuno

and run dark energy on that shit

>>32210148
by Gyarados I mean evolved from Karp, I figured this was obvious but I figured I'd clarify anyways

>>32210198
premium friday?

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>>32210204
premium friday.

>>32209978
What's this? Is there a site designed to calculate my RNG for losing games?
>>32210198
>>32210204
>>32210210
>premium Friday
What did the turkey mean by this?

>>32210148
Yeah, think mence is getting the boot honestly.
Cheers for the suggestion

>>32210204
>>32210210
>>32210212
Googled it,apparently premium friday is some kind of japan thing where people get off work early and get discounts and stuff

>>32210212
http://www.pokeduelhub.com/

>>32210372
Neat.

monthly booster tickets soon
can't decide whether to burn them all straight away or wait for the next rotation
leaning towards burning straight away to try for a moltres for the gym

>>32209825
>Quilladin for turning Chesnaught into an alternate Blastoise
you mean an actually acceptable mewtwo

>>32211617
>leaning towards burning straight away to try for a moltres for the gym
Moltres is pretty much the only thing worth getting right now, you should wait till we get like 3 new figures that are good and then use all of your tickets

>>32211668
but I am so very very weak

wtf, i got a match where i was against a reuniclus team, i had my metagross so i waasn't too worried, but for some reason the game decided to give him amazing rolls and suddenly half of my team was confused, i couldn't even kill one of his figures, like holy shit

>>32211748
What, you thought Reuniclus was good because of the rerolling?

>>32211754
Why did they think 3star purple and a minimum potential 100 attack was acceptable on a 2MP rare?

>>32211761
Because there's a 2MP that hits for 130, duh.

>>32211761
>minimum potential 100

>>32211754
it usually turns to shit after i disable his respins, the hyper beam is small enough as to be a super rare move, and i've got enough figures that can hit for a 101 as to not be worried about it, but holy shit that guy got lucky with confuse after confuse

>>32211668
>implying Reshiram, Ho-Oh, Heatran, and Rhyperior are bad
Even Delphox, Torterra, and Magmortar have their use and are much better EXs than fucking Dialga or Garchomp

>>32212009
>Garchomp now gets Sand Veil
How does this affect the meta?

>>32212019
viable memes

Does anyone have any idea why I'm not getting booster packs from monthly ratings? I was on track for 15 last night, but now the rankings reset and I ain't got shit. Happened last month too.