Physical versions of Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant and Hydro Canon when?

>>32191457
Who even uses the special versions ?

>>32191517
all hyperbeam-like moves now work like gen 1 bugged hyperbeam: No cooldown if you faint your opponent.

would they see use?

>>32191457
Physical/Special split is shit. Gen 4 was a mistake.

>>32191532
kill yourself

>>32191531
Yes, especially with Z moves. you're essentially getting multiple nukes with no drawback.
Well, I'm talking from a VGC perspective, I'm sure the calcs are different in singles since everything's bumped up to 100.

>>32191531
>giga impact slaking
Woah...

>>32191541
A lot of people have Pheromosa run Normalium Z with Hyper Beam just to be able to KO Toxipex after Sneaky Pebbles and any sort of switch in damage.

>>32191541
yeh and even without z-moves it would give a high risk/reward option to a wide variety of 'mons that currently lack a power move

a good example of this would be porygon-z

what if it was an ability instead?
i guess it would depend on what sort of mon got it

>>32191548
T H I C C

>>32191457
special version of intimidate when?

>>32191596
when we get the special dragon dance

>>32191624
>Quiver Dance

If Volcarona's typing wasn't so abysmal, it would be ban material. And even then it manages to be competitive in Stealth Rock: The Meta Part 4.

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>>32191532
>tfw no physical version of hidden power
Fuck Gen 4

Status move that causes freezing when?

>>32191701
Today, and it's forever exclusive to Aurorus.

>>32191665
Don't worry, it will have an unown with an physical version.

>>32191647
quiver dance isn't really an equivalent as it has incredibly limited distribution, I mean only 5 pokemon with an sp-atk of 100 or more learn it and 2 of them are beautifly and masquerain

something interesting could be a +sp-atk +spe move named "upgrade" could be shared between all artificial and appliance based pokemon

something that could work as a slight more general

>>32191725
I don't like that name, so here's one better!

Call it Optimize and make it -Atk +SpA +Spe

>>32191725
porygon z is now a A+ in OU
>+2 sp. attack
>+1 speed
please gf make it happen, that life orb porygon would be pure hnnnnn

>>32191548
>Slaking is loafing around!

>>32191757
Rotom would enjoy it too

>>32191750
lets see what pokemon could reasonably get a move like that

>Bug
Genesect, obvious
Vikavolt (line), a battery and a railgun, fairly obvious

>Dark
nothing truly fits, dark doesn't have anything truly artificial looking, closest is guzzlord

>Dragon
Latios/Latias could fit based on their "jet" theme
Kyurem B&W are artificial (sortof), possibly Zekrom as well given his technology theme

>Electric
Golem-A, again railgun theme (not that it would actually help him)
Magnemite: hilarious combo with magnet pull
Voltorb: fun boost, not the one it needs thoguh
Rotom (all forms): interesting boost, probably boosts his popularity
Xurkitree: if it can survive a turn to boost welcome to a world of hurt, "if"

>Fairy
Magearna: welcome to uber, enjoy your stay

>Fight
the only thing that fits is covered under psychic

>Fire
closest is Chandelure which is a bit to rustic
though chandelure would really REALLY want this move so maybe?

>Flying
Again not to much, but we can scrape some
Celesteela kinda fits
Aerodactyl: fossils could technically all be considered artificial, so either all of them or none of them (only mentioning aerodactyl because flying is anemic)

>Ghost
Golurk: I know it doesn't help him but it fits

>Grass
Its all natural here, maybe if electrode's in Amoonguss?

>Ground
Claydoll: if chandelure is in, its in as well

>Ice
Regice: all the regis get it

>Normal
Eevee: its hinted humans have done something to it a few times, its a maybe
Porygon (line): yeh, no other way, they love it
Castform: it needs more than this, but its a start
Regigigas: all the regis
Type: Null: additional niche acquired

>Poison
either none or else the man-caused
Grimer
Koffing
Trubbish

>Psychic
Mewtwo: well... obviously
Metang: special metagross could be fun
Deoxys: like its gonna live long enough
Bronzor: maybe under the chandelure clause?
Elgyem: guess

>Rock
Nosepass: maybe reaching
Regirock: all

>Steel
Registeel:
Klink

>Water
Remoraid: its a gun

>>32191624
Idk why, but I always felt Illuminate should do this, since it does /nothing/ in battle. At least give it some niche.

>>32194107
Oops, meant to reply to
>>32191596

>>32191701
will never happen
freezing has a 20% chance of thawing every turn
unlike sleep or confusion, the probability doesn't increase with each turn.
too broken

>>32191548
Doesn't it already work like that?