Cutscenes are a hell of a drug.

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>glitchless

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>>32159159
I love gen 1 speedruns.

>>32159170
Way to totally miss the point idiot.

>>32159170
>walks through your wall
>wins the game under 25 minutes
>pssh. Nothing personnel

>>32159159
>8 badges

The cut scenes in Moon where really annoying. I just wanted to explore and level but no, non stop fucking cut scenes.

>>32159159
>a hell of a drug
It would be if people liked them and wanted more of them.

>>32159189
Way to totally miss the point idiot.

>>32159198
As in finishing the league first time and not when you beat Red with 16 badges.

>>32159217

If you can just mash A through it, it's not a cutscene.

>>32159159
>ORAS is 1 hour longer than RS
The fuck, where did we go wrong? Are cutscenes + loading times that long?

>>32159182
How about I drill your ass

>>32159266
>teleports behind you
>uses perfect accuracy horn drill
pssssh nothing personnel

>>32159255
I think the really weird one is Emerald being half an hour longer than Ruby/Sapphire, sure there's a few extra areas like Magma Hideout and the Sky Pillar being mandatory before the league, and the cutscene in Sootopolis, but does that really add half an hour to the run?

>rng
>so many options for team building
>no ev/iv maxing for team building
>no glitches
Well shit, no wonder they take forever.

>>32159255
Delta Episode maybe? Or does it end with Steven?

>>32159278
>It's a cornhologram

>>32159325
No it ends with Steven, it's probably because of the cutscenes, and the sixth gen games being slower than the gen 3 games.

>>32159325
Ends with the rival so the actual record is 10 min shorter if you dont count end credits.

>>32159170

>wanting some shitty glitch run where they play around in menus for 20 seconds and warp to the credits

Not that any speedrun of a JRPG is ever good, but the routes themselves can be interesting

How much time that speedrun would be without counting cutscenes?

>>32159391
I liked that blind OoT speedrun where the guy discovered a new glitch room accidentally.

>>32159440

Probably still longer than any other game. It's kind of unfair when thousands of runners have been running red for a decade, finding routes/strategies/etc. then comparing that to a new release

>>32159159
>DPPt this cancerous with "story" bullshit

No wonder they're such shit games.

>>32159440
Youtube shows that there's only 15 minutes of pre-rendered cutscenes, but I don't know if you're talking about scripted text too.

>>32159159
Goddamn it, I wanted SM to be so good.
I mean, they're still fine, but excessive storytrash drags it down so hard.

>>32159499

Obviously they are talkin about scripted text. 15 minutes of pre rendered scenes aren't inflating the run by hours. 15 minutes of pre rendered scenes aren't what that masses are complaining about when they complain about their hand being held for the entire first island.

You fucking know what people are referring to when they complain about cutscenese

>>32159499
If it fades to black to display it, it's a cutscene.

>>32159170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyhEKG_g53o

>>32159537
So, this implies that S/M has a ton of useless talk that go beyond the pre-rendered cutscenes.

The problem is that every fucking game has shit like this. Could Lillie dirty talk be that much to the point to inflate the game like this?

>>32159440
Just the fade to black transitions would cut like 5min.

>>32159159
Rules:
Premiere: You enjoy the game peacefully.
During: You go all round and catch pokémon with good statistics.
Climax: You bring your best 6 pokémon.
Finished: You know the content of the whole game.

Quick Mode:
You analyze the same 6 Pokémon stronger and with traps.
Take shortcuts and avoid challenges.
Anyone can finish the game quickly if you have played it before. LOL

>>32159159
In SM, Lillie takes a lot of time doing nothing in almost every scene in the game.

>>32159159
okay here's the tough question
>why does it matter, and who gives a fuck

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>>32159159
When I tried to get a trainer card with nice digits in S/M it would take between 12-15 minutes after each reset to get my first Pokemon. Gave that up pretty quickly.

>>32160908
This happened with me when I tried to get a starter with a godd ability

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>>32161062
good**

Damn cell phone.

>>32159247
cutscenes =/= cinematics

>>32159159
>tfw want to try a new game on Moon but it's too discouraging because of the cutscenes so the game is still sealed.

>>32161062
nature**

Damn retardation.

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>>32159159

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I love cutscenes...who else?

>>32161341
That Clefable had more facial expressions than the player's character.
It had two.

>>32161341

I didn't love them but I definitely don't have the break random objects with a baseball bat level of rage over them like most of /vp/. Recently replayed Sun and the cutscenes at most were a minor inconvenience, especially in the beginning because it's telling how the play a game I've been playing for almost 20 years.

>>32161385
Mainly it's for replayability

Like, even on your first playthrough, after an hour or two, you start thinking "okay when can I actually play the game" on the less interesting cutscenes. If you try a second playthrough, where you've already seen everything interesting, it's just a long long time sitting through cutscene hell.

>>32161341
I really liked the cutscenes. Since BW I wanted Pokémon to become a more cinematic experiece.

Yes, it makes the game feel slower and kinda boring if you want to replay it, but the first time that I played Moon it was one of my best experiences with the franchise.

I would like to see some long cutscenes like the ones from Metal Gear in future games.

>>32159198
Some idiots consider kanto post game. While somehow never addressing the fact that'd make gen 2 the undisputable worst in the franchise.

>>32161426
what would happen if we put pokemon, metal gear and monster hunter into one game?

>>32161564
lawsuits
lawsuits everywhere

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>>32159159
>nidoking

glitchless but using exploits is basically the same thing. it's basedon a glitch btw

I mean they're like what? 15 minutes or something? Doesn't change much

>>32161554
By some idiots you mean GF and 90% of the fanbase lol

And no, Johto main game in Gen 2 is still not the worst

>>32159159
Huh. These numbers are interesting. I was about to chalk up the DP numbers to the size of the region but it's probably the slowness of the games

>>32159255
Stuff just moves faster in the GBA games, it adds up over time.

>>32159694
The problem being all scripted talk in SM stops the game and gives a fade to black before and after, and still slows down and breaks the pace.

>>32161315
100/10

>>32159159

>Sinnohfetuses claim DPPt aren't slow as molasses

>>32159159
what makes emerald half an hour longer than ruby/sapphire? curious

>>32161662
No it's not. There's no indication that Gen1 X-Accuracy ISN'T supposed to make all your attacks hit.

>>32161554
>While somehow never addressing the fact that'd make gen 2 the undisputable worst in the franchise
>implying it isnt

>>32161554
Uhhhhhh......

>>32162029
>implying it is

I love how Genwarfags try to start genwars in threads now since it's bannable if you make your own thread

>>32161341
I love good cutscenes in other games. Like Thief or Max Payne.
But not the shit in pokemon

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>>32161554
>the game is bad if the post game is good

>>32159159
Why lump the base versions up together? Wouldn't the differences in catchable Pokemon (and sometimes trainers) be enough for them to be considered separate games for speedruns?

>>32162107

No, why would they? It's not like they differ in levels or difficulty.

>>32159266
only if you cum inside it

>>32159159
>The ending to Sun & Moon is a fucking 45 minute cutscene
It ruined the entire game for me. I closed it and never opened it again.

>>32159159
To be fair, it's not like SM has been out all that long, so it's not optimized since Pokemon is luck based garbage.

>>32159159
Are cutscenes the SM pleb filter?

>>32161662
>>32161988
Gen 2 X Accuracy does the same thing as Gen 1's, so the behavior is completely intentional. Gen 2 also changed how the OHKO moves work to balance it out some.

>>32162240
Now you're overreacting.

>D/P/Pt time is the longer among the 2d main games

SLOW
L
O
W

>>32159159
The early cutscenes in Sun and Moon are shit but once you go to Aether Foundation with Gladion their pretty great because you should genuinely like and care about the characters at that point.

>>32163942
Gamefreak must have failed then, because most people dislike the characters at that point.

>>32163957
>implying
Lillie merch sells out faster than any other characters in japan now.

>>32159159
>Dice roll:the speedrun
Pokemon games aren't true speedgames

>>32161341
Yeah, nah. If I wanted that shit I'd play a different game or watch a movie.

>>32163821
>Post Gen 3
>2D

>>32161745
6 hours actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_MT9q54MGY

>>32162240
>i closed the game when it ended
well yeah probably

>>32159308
The magic of 60fps.

>>32159220
good thing /vp/ isn't people

>>32166661
>implying /vp/ is the only place this opinion is shared

>>32163992
This. It's unfortunate but generic waifubait hooks the most people, especially in nipland.

>>32166802
you faggots are the only people I see bitching about too much plot, so
>implying it isn't

>>32167136
Oh so confirmation bias.
Got it.

>>32167188
>ad populum
how does it feel being a social recluse?

>>32167228
Doesn't really mean much from someone who doesn't venture outside of 4chan.

The worst cutscene in the game is the one they tease a battle between Pheromosa and Tapu Koko, because it leads to fucking nothing and there's no point to it.

Ok, they made it to show that some UBs are in Alola, but they shouldn't have showed Tapu Koko that way.

>>32161978
>have to fight twice as many teams as you did in Ruby/Sapphire
>"why is the game longer?"

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