Why people think rowlet is not going to evolve? Ashnime love

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>>32154161
>Why people think rowlet is not going to evolve?
The leaked concept art of starters showed a fully evolved Incineroar and a Rowlet in base form with Ash. That's literally the only reason.

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comedy relief owl

It's recycling the idea of a first stage starter as comedy relief. Like Piplup, Oshawott, and Chespin.

>>32154161

Because Incineroar is already confirmed to be the ace, and last time Ash had two fully-evolved starters, one of them became a jobber while the other got all the glory.

It's better that Rowlet stay cute and marketable than become Incineroar's fall guy.

If he evolves, he's doomed to be Torterra 2.0

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>>32154377
>Because Incineroar is already confirmed to be the ace

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>>32154450

It's true though, they've been hyping up this cat too much for it not to be the case.

Episode 21 is where Litten joins the team.

>>32154161
all of you shits go fuck off to padt where you belong

>>32154496

Too many Serenafags and other cancer lurking in padt

>Getting a Fire/Dark
>Right after a Water/Dark

Potential for Ghost type shenanigans: Lost

>>32154687

Greninja was never treated as a Dark type, it didn't even know a single Dark type move.

>>32154161
It would be great if Rowlet turned out like Grovyle
>Evolve into Decidueye to protect Steenee
>Get rejected by Steenee for Chad
>Start jobbing due to heartbreak

>dartrix is a canon idiot
If "comedy relief owl" is a real thing they're gonna have Rowlet evolve only once

>>32154571
Not this shit again, don't you idiots have any clue? The "Serenafags" or whoever you're talking about mostly post in their own weekly threads nowadays, stop being so gay

>>32154467

after watching preview I assumed that if writers won't screw up, we will get incineroar looking even more badass that charizard-greninja

... hype

Pikachu is going to be the ace of this region and they're going to build up to Ash & Pikachu getting their 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt Z-Move later down the road.

There. Now nobody wins.

>>32154161
>Ashnime love to recycle ideas
Just because they do, doesn't mean it's a confirmed thing. That line of reasoning is just as bad as what this guy >>32154291 points out.

>>32154467
Honestly it's almost like you barafags haven't learned anything from GF yet.

>They trick people.
O let's start with a big one ash greninja wining the leaug. Witch it was foreshadowed multiple times, first olympia the person who can see the future told ash that when foggadier becomes a greninja he will help him beat the kalos leaug, and I'm not lying she legit did say that. And next we get the preview of the kalos leaug, we see ash greninja doing his finisher mega water shrunken. And that led up to a lot of people to believe that ash would beat the league. Greninja emotional background, all the training and emotional parts in story, all the struggles, literally ment nothing.

And as for pokemons with just sad backgrounds you need to think, there was a pokemon they emphasised more compared to the other ones, remember tepig, sad background, wanting to be strong, got trashed for krookedile, And speaking of witch, a pokemon with sharp white teeth, red with black stipes, a stack type, a long tail with the ability intimidated, sound familiar,
They literally already did incineroar before.

Not to mention that ash doesn't need another OP fire starter, we already got charizard and infernape, nor does he need another dark type, krookadile, greninja.

>>32154772
Your right they did barley treat greninja as a dark type, but did you forget ash's ace before gen 6, krookadile. Literally two gens with OP fire types, and two other gens with two OP dark types, they only stop at two.

And other is only one OP grass type ace ash has, trust me there hyping litten for no reason, notice way they avoid showing us how rowlet is in the night. There saving that for a rowlet focused episode. Were we get to see rowlets true nature after episode 21 passes were going to get a rowlet or a Popplio focused story, and this litten hype you have will be forgotten.

>>32154161
Actually I'm starting to think grovile was comedic, he didn't just fell in love with one pokemon he had a crush on two, first it was another grovlie who had a flower in it's mouth instead of a twig, then it was magaineum,

I don't really know what happened to the other grovile, due to me not watching the full anime, But I do know what happened to magaineum he fell in love with a banana tree, And grovile was so heart broken that even when it evolved fully it wasn't able to use any moves for about a few episodes. And that pretty much was a gag for awile, and weird part about that is, it wasn't even a comedy relief anime But yet sceptile made funny faces fell in love with more then one mon, got rejected twice, had a heart broken gag for about a season, and with all that it's still not a comedy relief pokemon. But yet rowlet has a crush on one pokemon and quickly being accused of being a joke. In a comedy relief anime, Ya bullshit. Or better yet who the comedy relief pokemon do for gen3?

>>32158179
Even the "cool" Pokemon get into silly shenanigans sometimes.

And even then, Chikorita and Totodile were the first gag starters in the anime, Chikorita being more akin to the modern ones, and that thing still evolved.

>>32158067
Yeah, that's exactly why they have a special story writer assigned to the Litten episodes and Litten's character development (who was the head story writer of XY), because they want to trick us.
I'm sure they can afford wasting extra money, especially on a high profile writer, just for the lol's.

>>32158067

maybe you didn't realized this yet but...

-incineroar have the most depth from all 3
-litten in anime have cool character mixed with total badassery similar to froakie, trecko ect.
-incineroar was the first starter that got own background on pokemon tcg pre-SM era
-they are showing incineroar alongside greninja for reason
-they could push both own and tiger in one team for extra money milking, because imo owl+tiger+ninja frog together are fucking hype but... maybe in gen 8 they will show a grass starter that could be paired with incineroar and greninja

>>32158352
Uuuu... what?

Who's tepig? He literally had a sad story, he got good development, but yet got out shined by...get this,
>A pokemon with sharp teeth,

>Red And white, with black stripes,

>Dark type,

>Gets the ability intimidated

Am I missing something, that's literally incineroar.

At latest when they did infernape they made him a ape that can't fly, nor have any resembles to charizard, but incineroar is just a slower, buffer, stupider krookadile. With the fire typing instead of ground.

>>32158591
>Incineroar has more depth compared to the other two,

>He actually just said this

You might want to retype that, I could esaly call you stupid for this comment, but I thick you already know when typed it.

>they are showing incineroar alongside greninja for reason

What? When?
Oh are you talking about that one pic were they where demonstrating double battles in the official website. Ya,... this is a very delusional kid I'm dealing with right now, Isn't it. First
That's not even anime related. And that literally means nothing.
Not to mention that's the only time they ever put greninja next to inshitaroar.

>>32154291
That concept are doesn't really imply it being Ash's though. In fact considering how early it leaked it was probably a plan for an early episode where the fully evolved starters appear and the cast interact with them.

>>32158591
>they could push both own and tiger in one team for extra money milking.

First
>Own >not on.

Next,
>Incineroar

>making More money

Hum... Ya, I'm not the only one that can see through this barafag's headcanon right.

Yes I could see incineroar marketing a little money if he were the shill mon. But at the end of th day, rowlet is making more money then litten and Popplio. And Decidueye will be the same thing. He just sells more well then incineroar. There are three choices here,

>Incineroar, decent choice.

>Lycanrock, good choice,

>Decidueye best choice,

And having a sad background And being cool doesn't mean anything when your the least popular choice.
Tell tepig, he had everything going for him, but got outclassed by a krookadile.

And as for cool, bulbasaure,(witch has a lot of traits from litten) And snivy, they both acted the most serious and and most adult like compared to the other two, but yet still got overshadowed by one of the other two. And note, they both battled ash to get caught.

>>32159042

dude, pokemon now have more competent writers for the anime...how you can even compare with BW...

>>32159019

but what character has primarina and owl get? I can't see anything than boring popmaid and aristocratic robin hood... they are just..terrible when you look how fucking wild and cool incineroar's acts

autism

>>32159073

what do you expect from people who want their mon to be shilled?

>>32159152

now this is bullshit because starters got special treatment in SM and they actually gave them personality, which of course will be motor to promote them in the anime and later in the games when they will get exclusive movesets

>>32159068
And are you really still on about the writer thing. Let me just give you a fresh reminder of what I said.
>Sad background and acting cool means nothing when you don't sell as well

>And Decidueye being a boring character.

Well not really he's supposed to be like the the better litten. He's cool, and calm. But will get esaly panic if he got surprised. Kinda like rowlet right now. Is that a foreshadowing?

And don't you think that sounds just like greninja In a way.
In fact frokie acted silly and charming out of battle or a troublesome situation, but he is always ready to battle for ash. Just like rowlet.

And keep in mind we are only seeing a half asleep rowlet. Since he's nocturnal and all. And i'm quite suspicious on why the writers keep on making us see rowlet for too long in the night. Is it because there saving for a rowlet focused episode.

>>32154161
My question is why people care about what happens in the anime?

>>32159171

and? who the hell cares other than autist like you?

>>32159312
Simple, because the anime is like the biggest thing keeping the franchise running, no matter how much people say they don't watch the anime, they always surprise me when they know a certain seen in the anime I didn't see yet. Literally I see and here this all the times.

The anime brings a lot to the table like ships, best to worst rivals, shill mons. All this stuff people can talk about. Or in this case argue about. But at the end it all keeps us together in a way.

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>>32159312
My question is why does a board that claims to hates the anime so much end up being so obsessed with certain aspects of it.

These same three or four threads are posted every day on this board, and they always end up exactly how you'd expect them to: full of starterfags flinging shit at each other and other random faggots who last watched the show when the Coliseum was being built debating how old Ash is and when they'll finally see him and Misty make babies.

Between this, that one falseflagger who posts his daily "defend this shitty SM background" threads, and those fuckers who spam Lillie porn and literal shit and Tailsscat across the board to try to call "Amourfags" the worst cancer since sliced melanoma.

This board just gets more insufferable with every passing week.

>>32159428
(You)

>>32159311

lel then let's just fix incineroar design, he's in fact more badass than this retarded emo owl [which design I love but it's fucking boring]

>>32162197
Wait
>Incineroar

>More badass then Decidueye.

Wow, you have prooved me that your not just delusional, but your also telling me that your cross eyed.

Here let me show you something.

Chesnaught And greninja.

Witch one appeals to both male and female. Witch one has a slick design. Witch one looks the fastest.

And, on the other corner, we got the one that's masculine, the one that looks like it could be a good body gaurd, the one you could potentially trust with your life, the big hunk.

So witch category do you think Decidueye and Incineroar fit in.

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>>32162272
>witch
oh boy what is going on here

>>32162272
>a coward owl that's afraid of its shadow and tries to look edgy is more badass than a strong wrestling tiger who gives zero fucks about anything but children

>>32162300
>a strong wrestling tiger who gives zero fucks about anything but children

anon...

>>32162330
What?

>>32162330

wtf I want be little boy now!

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>>32162330

>>32162355

to be honest, incineroar is better starter mainly because of it's theme of a hero...

>>32162300
>a coward owl that's afraid of its shadow and tries to look edgy is more badass than a strong wrestling tiger who gives zero fucks about anything but children

To answer your question yes.

>And a coward owl? Not even close, Decidueye is scared when he gets sneaked on, not by just anything. And I think anyone can relate, how would you react if you were walking home on a quite day, and all the sudden you heard a gun shot directly behinde you, and a man shouted empty your pokets.you would be starduld too.

And really you point at Decidueye weakpoint but don't bother to mention that incineroar does not even listen to it's trainer sometimes. Wich if you don't know yet, could actually be a ten or eleven years old. Which counts as a childe no matter how you look at it. So

>Giving fucks about the children.
Is actually quit debatable.

Oh. I almost forgot, incineroar my sometimes hit the other trainer. So just imagine what incineroar would do if, let's say, if kukui went against ash with his incineroar. Incineroars would most likely hit ash and give no fucks. Your point is actually.

>>32162656
They specifically pointed out how jumpy Decidueye is, both in the dex and on the pokemon website, even saying that it becomes flustered and unable to properly battle, which (that's how you write it btw) means Decidueye is naturally more cowardice than normal, not just in a dire situation, but any situation, they wouldn't have focused on it that much if it was just a natural fright that everyone feels.
And the flaws you listed for Incineroar can be seen as "badass" by some people, as being a villain is often viewed as cool.
What I'm trying to say here, recklessness is considered more badass and appeal to a wider range of people than being jumpy and quick to panic.

>>32162656
>>32162833

you idiots, it's anime, they can do whatever they want, but when you look at the games, incineroar is more provocative and edgy than owl which makes him look badass, I believe they tried to check if people will be still into greninja v2 or will come after reckless tiger

if they make incineroar looks better then they will for sure make him even more popular, imo they fucked up with it's moveset, it have much bigger potential that suits it's theme

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>another retarded thread with people posting the same shit over and over again ending in the same "die barafag/trannyfag/nu-male" spam
Since this thread is unsaveable anyway: I think Ashs Rowlet is gonna fully evolve and become his ace, Kukui is gonna have Litten and Popplio belongs to Lana.

>>32162978

anime concept arts already proven that rowlett is another oshawot and totodile while incineroar is another infernape, charizard and greninja

>>32162978
>>32162987
Here we go again ...

>>32162833
>both in the dex and on the pokemon website, even saying that it becomes flustered and unable to properly battle,

Dude I think your reading two Dec entries at the same time.

Because if I'm not mistaken, not one of Decidueyes entries stats that it's unable to battle when it gets straddled.

But I think you my friend actually were reading dartrix's Dex. When it gets flustered it becomes unable to battle, not Decidueye.

It's like you were looking for something to argue with and you found dartrix's entire and you just thought that you could esaly trick me with that shit.

So ignoring and being bad is badass you say. Then why and how is anyone actually going to accomplish anything with incineroar.

Even dartrix has a better story that's not copy and paste off any other.
Just read this from the official website.

>Revealing a certain snobbiness in its personality, Dartrix cares a great deal about its appearance, grooming its feathers in every spare moment. In truth, it’s also a bit of a birdbrain, with a tendency to bungle things up. Once it makes a mistake, it sometimes gets into a desperate struggle to gloss over the situation and ends up making a bigger mess than ever.

>Struggleing emotionaly

And judging from how it's selfish It would mean that the trainer would have been giving it too much love and effection, thus evolving into a selfish mon. Then this.

>At times, this Pokémon feels so bothered by its dirty or ruffled feathers that it can’t focus on battle. When it loses its focus, it sometimes even retires from the battle on the spot!

>It’s up to each Trainer to help Dartrix overcome this troublesome stage. If this Pokémon is with a Trainer who helps it through, its strength will grow hugely!

It's funny how they mentioned a trainer. And then said it's power will grow hugely.

Ash has a rowlet.

>>32162987
>This delusional guy
>And his Barafag logic.

>>32163036
>>32163054
>>32162978
>>32162987

can't you fucking wait for the anime and stuff to see who they decided to chose?

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>>32159946
He's not wrong though, anon.

>>32163082
They can't apparently, that's just /vp/ being /vp/ though.

>>32163036
>when it's caught by surprise, it's seized by panic
>Decidueye usually acts very cool, but it can become terribly flustered in unexpected situations like a surprise attack

How are you going to fight when you're stuck in a state of panic? do you not understand what seized or flustered mean?

And it's not about accomplishing anything with Incineroar, again, do you understand what badass even mean?
we're not asking you who you prefer to have as a partner.

>>32163036
Hay now that you mentioned it, when he first found rowlet it was half asleep as always. Ash saved it from a fall, gave it all the food it could eat, then let it roost in his backpack. Food nerterying it and giving it a comfortable place to rest. And all it has to do for ash is battle for it. But if it evolves it'll get a little bit more greedy. Care only for itself. And worst avoid battles because of it's face got a little bit dirty. But if it had a trainer who took great care of it and helped it. Meaning doing pokemon refresh every time it got out of battle,

>Wich could be a good way to demonstrate pokemon refresh in the anime. And ash has to take care of the emotionally broken down dartrix for an entire season or just a few episodes. Then it'll come time to were dartrix is ready to evolve. And like the dex says it's power will grow hugely.

See that sounds like a solid story. Not just charizard rip off 2.0.

And as for the being a startled part. Since it's a comedy relief anime I can see it being Decidueyes comedy factor. I'm at this point everyone in the anime should have one now.

And too be honest rowlet is already showing us a glimpse of that startling thing that Decidueye will have. Remember when ash took out rowlet from his ball and they worked him up. He noticed he was in a fight with a yungoos And a gumshoos.

>Foreshadowing rowlets evolution so soon

That and he sneak up behinde people without them noticing.

>>32163140
Ya, your right it is pretty hard to battle when your in a panic. But unlike the cat, Decidueye could at least pull itself together if it's trained to handle panics like this. But that's the big thing here. You could train your Decidueye to handle itself. At least it'll listen. And also to get into the panic you have to sneak attack it. Wich that quit hard to do to pokemon that will sneak on you first. Decidueye is a dependable pokemon with one flaw.

But Incineroar on the other hand.
>Attack opposing trainer.

>Will ignore your commeds

>and only fights it's best when a big crowd is cheering for him.
You think I forgot about that little detail, didn't you. It says on th official website that it won't battle to good if no one cheers for him. Ya good luck with your cat.

>And badass
And I'm not even going to lie incineroar is badass in his own way, like any other fire starter. But the only thing badass about him is that, he mean and he looks likes he might kill you if you don't give him catnip every two seasons. He's just dangerous. Kinda like seminar to emboar in a way. And the things he could do is barkest diarist you to death or hit you with flams at that very questionable area. Seriously is this thing for kids?

But comparing him to Decidueye, Wich is a calm and collective robin hood/green arrow like owl, that shoots it's feathers like arrows, it wears a hoodie, a x on it's chest to keep it's hoodie stable, can sneak behinde you without you noticeing. Not to mention it's got powerful kicks, you can't escape it because it'll trap you with it's badass signature move spirit shackles. It's literally a ghost. That sounds really badass and you can't deny it.


And proof that they tried to make Decidueye the badass one is there shines, just look at shiny Decidueye. And don't lie to me and say it's a bad shiny.

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>this will never happen

>>32159312
Some people cant accept a show they liked in childhood sucks.

>>32159418
Because /vp/ worships it so you always passively know what's going on. Every time I criticize it people go "but u dont watch it!!!" and always fail to point out how i'm wrong. Which would be easy on an actual decent show which this isnt.

>>32159428
/vp/ doesnt claim to hate the anime, not sure how do you conclude that. Not only is padt allowed here but also non padt threads despite padt existing. And everytime someone says something remotely bad about it you're guaranteed apologist replies.

>>32163354
If you're going by that logic, then you can train Incineroar to listen to you as well, with a good trainer, and then he'll be a powerhouse and listen to commands, does that fix him for you?
To be fair it isn't that hard to preform sneak attacks on slow pokemon, and Decidueye happens to one of them, yes he does do sneak attacks of his own, but there are many pokemon who are faster and rely on sneak attacks, it's the whole theme of ghost and dark types.
And finally, you seem to mistake cool for badass, Decidueye acts cool, and Incineroar is a badass.

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>This thread

what is this even

I don't know who's going to be this generation's shill mon and I'd rather not want to figure it out, but if irony plays out and the anon who's arguing against "baragfags" while throwing these theories does turns out being right, I'm just gonna assume the boards to go completely mad and in denial.

>>32163507
>Decidueye acts cool
Well your right he does. But he doesn't just act cool, he is cool.

>Decidueye being one of the mons
Ya, your one of those fags who takes the games as a conon source. In game Decidueye has a questionable stat spread. He's got good special attack, but he doesn't learn any special attacking moves by level up, and he's got slow speed for no reason. Just look at him. Are you really telling me that magaineum and venasuras look right out speeding him.

But at least the anime fixes it a little. I bet you that they'll make Decidueye be really fast in the anime compared to the games. I just wonder how he's going to use leaf blade in the anime. Will he use his wings like hawlucha or will he make a grass swords come out of nowhere like diance or greninja.

>>32154161
>Ashnime love to recycle ideas

By same reason; Priplup, Oshawoot, Chespin all character for comic relief

Maybe he can evo to his 2d stage, not more

>>32163640
>Ya, your one of those fags who takes the games as a conon source

Ok, this is just beyond stupid.

>>32163640
Did you know, that the games come before the anime and manga and everything else?

Did you know, that the anime use the games as the main and only source of material?

Did you know, the only reason the anime exist is because of the fucking games?

Are you really going to sit her and tell me not to use information given to us by the games, as canon????

>>32163666
>Maybe he can evo to his 2d stage, not more

>Being this salty about not seeing a OP Decidueye in the anime.

Just face the facts, ash has to much good fire types and dark type to just get another one.

It's the grass types turns, since they've been treated like shit the last three gens,

>torterra is a joke, he never one a single battle after evolving.

>Snivy was serious but emolga turned her into a gag. And that she was a girl.

>And chespin is a gag. He's a comedy relief.

Rowlet/Decidueye will be the savior of the grass starters and sun and moon anime.

>>32163726
Uuuuu...what. everyone knows that already dumbass.

I said you shouldn't use logic from the games to compaer with the anime. Because pikachu shocked why too many ground types for me to just believe that.

Decidueye might look slow in game, but he's going to be fast as fuck in the anime.

>>32163561
>"baragfags"

omae ni wa kōgeki wo tsuyo shinai zo~!!!

>>32157423
Unless we get an Ash-Incineroar, i doubt it.