Kucheat is # 9!!
remove mimikyu
>>32137831
Salamence, Mimikyu, and Mawile going up are probably attemts to counter the Garchomp meta
>>32137831
THE ENTIRE TOP 6 IS FAIRIES AND DRAGONS
THIS IS NOT FUCKING OKAY
>>32137862
>gf tries to fix Dragons: The Meta
>by introducing Dragons 2: The Fairy Reckoning
How do we fix it, /vp/?
Steel is now immune to both Dragons and Fairies and hits both for SE? Ice/Poison 600BST UB?REMOVE TOTEMS?
I know that this is usage data based on only 24 hours of the new BSS season so its likely to drastically change overtime, but holy shit at Mega Gengar/Gengar hovering at the every edge of dropping out of the top 30.
How the might have fallen.
>blaziken
>no mega
Nani?
>>32137831
This is why I don't play Battle Spot Singles
>>32137891
>buffing steel
>>32137891
Fairy could use an additional weakness, limiting them to Steel and Poison was a mistake (same as Water being weak only to grass and electric)
Garchomp needs a nerf period, but someone at GameFreak obviously has a stiffy for him seeing as they decided to nerf a route 1 regional bird only good for its 1 gimmick but not a pseudo that's been shitting on the meta since gen 4
>>32137891
>Steel is now immune to both Dragons and Fairies and hits both for SE?
Yeah, let's buff Steel even more. What can possibly go wrong?
>>32137831
The heck is wrong with that Gengar art?
>>32137831
where the ubs at? what is that?
>>32137984
It's the Dream World art.
He's kind of in an awkward pose but other than that there's nothing wrong with him.
>>32137987
Tekkaguya is #17!!
>>32137831
>Gengar is #30
It is sad how the big ones fall
>>32138006
>#17
For how long will we have to deal with Celesteele?
>>32137831
What is this? BSS?
Mimikyu is the most used pokemon there? I didn't expect that.
>>32137831
Hahahahahaha!
Get fucked Kangaskhanfags.
>>32137973
Or just remove its resists from fighting maybe. SE can remain. Both are overkill
Grass maybe should resist Fairy, too
>>32137973
Make Ice resist Fairy perhaps. It's about damn time Ice gets a new resistance
>>32137973
Fairy shouldn't be SE against Fighting because Fairy, Fighting and Bug should all represent the trifecta of "good and justice". Psychic isn't part of this trifecta because of its weakness to Dark.
So, Fairy should simply be neutral against Fighting. Bug should also resist Fairy.
Fairy also needs a weakness; Fire easily comes to mind since it resists Fairy.
Water has had similar issues for a long time (weak to two types, one of which is rarely seen as a major threat in the meta). Make it weak to Poison, and it should knock it down a peg.
From there, GF needs to work on making competitively viable Poison types to control Water and Fairy. In turn, Psychic can make a return to meta (its currently outclassed by Fairy), as would Fire. Since everything can also learn EQ, Ground would be plenty capable of keeping Poison checked.
>>32137945
>ever using mega blaziken
Really man?
>>32138169
Fire doesnt need the offensive buff. And as it is bugs are actually doing well despite the types resisting them. There are 7 bugs in OU right now
>>32138221
Mega Blaziken is unable to run Life Orb and Z-Crystals while eating up your megaslot. Its inferior in every aspect.
>>32138233
Okay, so which type would you propose to be a third SE against Fairy?
>>32137862
>charizard
>dragon
Make ice resist something besides itself. They increased the number of types steel and poison were super effective to because they had very few, so they should have done the same to ice resistances
>>32138343
Ice purely for competitive balance standpoint or Normal because normies dont believe in magic
>>32137831
only because of garchomp. I predict Gyarados and Excadrill increasing ranks in the future as a counter to mimikyu's disguise
>>32138352
It's a dragon more than half the time, I simply rounded up.
>>32138370
>Flyium Z
That says Firium Z though.
>>32137831
Why is she perfect
>>32137891
>make ice resist ground
>remove bug resistance from fairy
>psychic SE on fairy and resists it
>hail buffs Ice type special def
>poison SE on water
>>32138445
>she
>>32137891
Remove fairy's unnecessary bug resistance
Fairy is now weak to grass
Grass and ice now resist fairy, maybe psychic to
While we're at it, steel loses its psychic resistance and it now weak to electric
Ice resists flying and dragon now to
>>32138024
Mega-mom's nerf wasn't really enough. Talonflame got completely circumcised and Mega-Mom came out of a nuke with a scratch on it's knee. It needs to lose sucker punch and power up punch
>>32138169
>Fighting and Bug
>"good and justice"
Fuck off with your headcanon.
>>32138551
>Justified
>Swords of Justice
>headcanon
>>32138551
>Fairy
>good
>>32138551
Not him but he's likely referring to how often bugs are portrayed and associated with superhero roles in Japan.
>>32138016
>serebii claims kartana is the "premier steel type" in competitive play and has replaced Celesteela
>Celesteela has higher usage stats and while Kartana is used a lot in doubles Celesteela consistently remains in the most used Steel types
And yet all I see with her is STALL
STALL
and more STALL
>>32138543
Doesn't PuP no longer proc twice?
>>32140836
It does
>>32137891
>Making Celesteela and Megagross stronger
Yes please
>>32137891
>wanting to buff the best type in the game
>>32139861
Celesteela is a bulky offense pokemon you tard.
>>32140949
That's why I was expressing surprise that all I see is STALL when the better sets for her are usually ones that utilize her bulk and decent power to survive while dealing out damage, plus boosts.
I was expecting to see bulky offense sets, but almost every fucking team was
>Heavy Slam
>Leech Seed
>Substitute
>Protect
With leftovers. It was infuriating.
>>32141004
I see your point. Personally I run an Autotomize offensive set. It snowballs real quick after a KO or two.
>>32137891
Ice/Poison UB PLAGUE
HP- 20
Atk- 100
Def- 10
SpAtk- 200
SpDef- 10
Spd- 250
Total- 600
Ability: Dazzling
>>32141099
All UB base stats are prime numbers tho
What's with all these retards lately saying baaaaaaaaw Garchomp needs a nerf baaaaaaaaaaaaaaw? Everyone has been fine and dandy with Garchomp for 3 fucking gens and now that he's easier to kill and deal with than ever before in Fairies The Meta is that you faggots want him to get nerfed?
Jesus. Why is /vp/ so awful at game?
>>32141158
19
101
11
199
11
fuck u speed
>>32141099
that adds up to 290 kek make hp 30
>>32141209
>Everyone has been fine and dandy with Garchomp for 3 fucking gens
Did you come from another world?
>>32138364
Fuck no, Ice is already offensive as fuck. I swear you retards have no fucking clue what you're saying and just parrot garbage spouted here.
>>32141255
>Gen 4
>Banned, everyone moved on with their lives
>Gen 5, banned, unbanned when rough skin got released, Everyone moved on with their lives
>Gen 6. The worst he has ever done and then made a comeback with his defensive set, became stable again after that. Everyone moved on with their lives
>All of Gen 5 and 6
>Had to compete with Landorus-T
>Gen 6
>Had to deal with fairies
>No one ever minded
But no. It's during Gen 7 when there's the Tapus every fucking where and Zygarde as yet another competitor that Garchomp suddenly became too much for the retards here to deal with.
>>32141276
/vp/ is full of casuals who have little actual idea about anything related to competitive. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them related Verilis' furry cock.
>>32141325
That Garchomp is still good after 3 damn gens and after every fucking gen introducing something that competes with it or nerfs it in a way is a goddamn miracle. Garchomp is a symbol of masterful design that no matter what happens it'll come to the top one way or another. I wish other Pokemon had half as much care and thought put into them as Garchomp did.
Well, actually, there's some Pokemon who have had as much thought put into them, except it's focused on how to make them bad instead of good. Kommo-o is a fucking disgrace. How the fuck do you manage to make a Dragon/Fighting with 600BST bad?
>>32141018
I've run a similar set, Celesteela is one of my favorite steel types to use.
Many people have a love/hate relationship
How do you feel?
>>32137831
As much as I like Mimikyu as a 'Mon, it's such a pain to counter w/o a dedicated Mold Breaker lead.
Hell yeah my favorite is #1
>>32137891
Grass and Ice resist Fairy now.