Fixing Poison Stall?

>Just how many players actually rely on bitch tactics like that to win? Too many in my opinion.
fucking none of them you shitter

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>>32114810

>confirmed to have never played competitive ever.

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>>32114596
>yfw toxic stops being universal move

toxic should be poison-type mons only, all the rest could just learn regular poison gas or something

>it's another "shitters try talking about balance" episode

poison is literally not a problem and if you believe it is you're fucking stupid and bad at pokemon

literally, LITERALLY just bring in a steel type/run heal bell or aroma/use taunt/use fini for terrain/run your own poison etc etc

stall isn't even the best team archetype this meta, inb4 muh stall boogeyman bitching

>>32114596
God forbid something other than blind offense exists. This meta is getting too fucking streamlined as it is, stop having a fit of rage every time you lose on Showdown.

>>32114596
You shouldn't do that. You'd nerf the most cancerous poison stallers, yes, but you'd be butchering lots of mons who didn't do anything wrong.

What toxic and toxic spikes (and stealth rock/thunder wave for that matter) need is a more sensible distribution.

Only actual ninja-like or sneaky, dirty-playing pokemon should get toxic.
Only mons with visible poisonous spikes on their design should get toxic spikes.
Only mons with chunks of rocks or detachable rocky parts should get stealth rock.
Only electric mons, a few steel types with machine properties, a few mons with fur dense enough to generate static should get thunder wave.

Half the problems associated with these moves is that they were given absolutely ridiculous widespread distributions. A chansey or similar pink blobs, that have soft bodies and are generally focused on the idea of healing, should never have gotten the ability to toxic or set rocks.

And I say all of this without having a problem with the moves themselves. Is just their distribution that doesn't make sense.

>>32114596
>vp tries to competitive

Honestly the only thing wrong with toxic is its distribution. Why the hell does literally everything get it? It makes no sense.

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>>32114943
Zeroes

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>>32114993
>>32114995
Heroes

Always nice to see a 'muh kill stall' thread get btfo within the first ten replies