Overrated pokemon

I'm 30, have played and enjoyed every Pokemon game from start to finish, have favorites in every gen, and you posted my #1 favorite Pokemon, OP.

My suggestion to you is to stop letting popularity affect your feelings and opinions.

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How do you do fellow overrateds?

>>32104259
It's cool

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Barafags need to die.

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>>32104312
>his favorite pokemon is actually mega charizard x

GARDEVOIR

TELL HIS FANS TO FUG UP

>>32104327
What would be a better favorite Pokemon? I mean do we seriously need to be elitists about a cartoon monster game?

>>32104259
>I find the blue flames from the snout and sholder spikes are obnoxious
What, exactly, is "obnoxious" about it? I could understand if you just personally didn't like it, but it's pretty well designed. None of those just stand out, the colors of the flame fit the Pokemon and look authentic. And while I could understand why someone would think the spikes are unnecessary, they still fit the Pokemon.
So what makes it so "obnoxious"?

>>32104327
>He isn't Alainchad masterrace

>>32104367
Something that is black or has darker colors, and has spikes on top of it is just edgy, pandering to edgelords and kids, and thus is the worst thing to exist. It's even worse if it's popular on top of that, because it's getting the attention it doesn't deserve.

>>32104327
Well it is the one that makes sense out of the two.

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When I first saw the leaks I was like "oh shit I think I'm choosing Rowlet now" but then I thought "am I really choosing this bland, edgy Greninja knock off " and I've been a catfag ever since after I got over "muh quadrupedal starter". Now I'm actually okay with the owl, but I still think that it's somewhat overrated

>>32104324
overrated not underrated. Post decidueye for school shooter awareness.

>>32104324
Everyday on /vp/ there's at least half a dozen anons who hate Incineroar for no good reason other than "bara", something that fanart is responsible for making you think, not official art.

Incineroar is underrated and overhated if anything.

>>32104402
>its black
>it has darker colors in general
>ITS FUCKING EDGY AND PANDERS TO EDGELORDS AND I HATE IT REEEEE

Sorry that not every pokemon is a cuddly little fluff ball. Not everything that has black on it is edgy you fucking autist.

>>32104798
Same way people here hate on Charizard non-stop.

>>32104324
>Autist will continue to get worked for all eternity

BASED BIG CAT

Overrated != popular
Underrated != shat on

It seems /vp/ can't understand basic English. Incineroar is overrated, because it looks shit, is the weakest of the three Alola Starters and is still fairly popular. It's gets more praise than it deserves, thus it's overrated. Calling it underrated would imply it deserves to be treated better than it is. No. It doesn't.

>>32104827
That post was clearly sarcastic, attempting to show just how stupid the hate is.

>>32104856
Oh. Well it appears I am the autist in this situation.

>tfw I don't like Incineroar and it manages to be the best Fire starter anyway
why did Game Freak fuck them up this badly?

fuck you Burasto is GOAT

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>>32104259
Who the fuck overrates ZardX? It probably gets more hate than any other mega. Genwunners are the MOST likely to hate it since it fucks with their precious nostalgia.

Here is a truly overrated mon. Every shitlord thinks it can compete in OU with muh free z-splash, and handwave that it's another lazy pikachu knockoff just because they tried to justify it with a contrived story.

>>32104856
I disagree. I think Incineroar is a very solid looking mon on its own. It just had the misfortune of being the third starter in a row that went from a quadruped to a biped, and with a less smooth transition than the past two to boot.

>>32104902
Z-splash is literally the worst Mimikyu set

>>32104919
>very solid looking
What part? The ridiculous proportions? The sausage fingers? The fucking dick flame?
I honestly give zero shits about quadrupedal felines. We've got more than enough. But Incineroar doesn't even come close to being a good looking Pokemon. It might not be the worst, but it's still shit.

>>32104523
>he fell for the edge meme
>>32104854
You're a big cat.

>>32104856
>I'll act like my personal opinion is a fact and people will start thinking like me

>>32104919
Shitty unnatural looking stripes, should be wilder like Electabuzz
Sausage fingers with tiny wrists
Small legs, tiny feet with no claws
Fire belt probably the stupidest looking fire feature on any mon

It's only better than Primarina by not being repulsive, and Decidueye by making physical sense.

>>32104923
I'm aware, that's why I referenced it as the shitlord set. It's garbage regardless though.

>>32104951
And yet, tons of people love it. Opinion isn't fact.

>>32104946
>>he fell for the edge meme
Those were my first impressions. Now it's not nearly Greninja level to me, only a bit bland for a starter

>>32104902
Its not even a good pokemon with a double swords dance. Its just annoying to deal with.

>>32104960
Tons of people love Sword Art Online. Ad populum is not an argument.

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>>32104902
Not everything is about competetive. Mimikyu is more fiting in UU in my opinion as well.

Mimikyu is a cute idea that plays off pikachu's popularity well. It's a cute, pitiful raggedy creature, who doesn't love those?

>>32104960
Thus, it's overrated. It has more flaws than any starter to date, and there's no real reason to like it other than muh buffcat.

>>32104259
Charizard is complete garbage. Charizard Y is slightly less garbage, and Charizard X, while a bit exaggerated, looks fine.

>>32104980
Primarina and Decidueye both have more flaws. Incineroar is still shit, but it's the least shit in its gen.

>>32104934
>>32104951
I personally really don't mind cartoonier looking Pokemon. Though having more beast like and realistic proportions would make it look like a more logical progression from Torracat, that's for sure.

>>32104432
I'd disagree, I think Y is a more natural thematic evolution. But, to each their own!

>>32104934
>The ridiculous proportions?
What about them? You realise this is a Pokemon right? It's not required to have normal human porportions if it's humanoid. Hell, there are barely any humanoid pokemon that have proper proportions.
With that said you're over exaggerating the "issue" with the proportions.
>The sausage fingers?
Same as above.
>The fucking dick flame?
What?
Does your penis come out of your stomach or something? Because the flame belt is clearly waist height rather than the crotch.

>>32104998
I'm not talking about it being natural I'm talking about how Y zard has features that don't accurately represent the changes to the mon.

>>32104934
>>32104951
If you break down a design like that every single pokemon is overrated because there's always something to nitpick about the anatomy of an exaggerated, oversimplified animal marketed towards children

>>32104994
>Primarina and Decidueye both have more flaws
Such as?

>>32105000
So no such thing as a flaw exists, then? I mean, if it's a Pokemon, everything goes! Every Pokemon is the best thing ever made! Completely flawless!

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>>32104934
Its head and torso are aiight

>>32105017
They're very glaring flaws. Pokemon has an established level of realism, which isn't very high, and he still looks too cartoony for it.

>>32105017
Other Pokemon have more pros than cons. This one doesn't. There's really not much to like about it. I guess it has a nice face, but other than that, literally nothing.

>>32105000
The issue is that disproportionate body, ridiculously long fingers and that flame belt over its crotch look ugly. You might be able to accept literally everything, even actual shit, if it was a Pokemon, but I can't.

>>32105021
>So no such thing as a flaw exists, then?
Not in those areas no. You're literally complaining about something being cartoonish in a series built off of cartoonish designs.

Do you realise how retarded that sounds?

If it were something relating how it's abilities in game then yes you'd have a point about how flawed it is but designs are literally subjective and have to be considered within the medium they're in.
For example something like Resident Evil's Nemesis would look hilariously bad in Pokemon's cartoonish environment and vice versa with Incineroar in Resi but the two in their respective series look fine regardless of your personal tastes.

Are you getting all of this?

>>32105038
Since when? There have been plenty of goofy looking motherfuckers mixed with more realistic ones since day 1.

>>32105038
>Pokemon has an established level of realism
Uh no it doesn't. It never had any sense of realism Not even back in generation 1. If you want to complain about Incineroars features then may I direct you to the original games where proportions weren't exactly a thing?

>>32105000
>>32105078
Is there ANY Pokemon you think has a flaw in its design? I'm genuinely curious.

>>32105056
>Other Pokemon have more pros than cons.
The only con that I can agree with is too big hands and it's not that big of a problem anyway

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>>32105021
Primarina is just a fucking mess. It has this overly simplistic shape with its teardrop head and featureless anatomy, and then it's covered in clutter to make up for it. The color split in the middle is too jarring even for a mermaid, just due to poor choice of shades. Instead of breaking up these big empty spaces of color gracefully, they just tacked on nonsensical shit like those pink spikes. Its human features are also abhorrent. Compare something like Milotic which uses fins to evoke hair and has a sleek, graceful animal look while still conveying a mermaid, while this thing looks like a dog in drag.

I've made the Decidueye spiel before. The bow just doesn't make sense. Its arm would have to detach from its body for it to work. "But it's fiction," you say. Except it's based on a real thing, a bow and arrow, and when it's so far removed from said thing, why bother forcing it in the first place? "But they're magic arrows," you say. If they're magic, why the fuck would they need the bow in the first place? It's completely forced. It can't even use it while flying, which puts it in the same category as Samurott's quadruped swords. That plus its nonsense ghost type. It has too many flimsily related things going on.

So again, Incineroar is bland and kind of awkward, but that's not as bad as being a repugnant tranny or a nonsensical clusterfuck.

>>32105111
Find me a Pokemon that doesn't fit in and we'll talk.

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>>32105129
It looks good in some angles when the thinness of the wrists isn't showing, but boy when it shows, it really fucking shows. Would it have killed them to thicken the forearms a little bit?

>>32104856
>weakest of the three
Are you trying to turn this into a Decidueye thread?

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>>32105153
>ywn be this vitriolic

>>32105078
>cartoonish
There it is again. Disproportionate != Cartoony. Everything that is disproportionate isn't cartoony. Cartoony design would one with exaggerated proportions in a humorous fashion. An example of that would be Makuhita. It has a simplistic design with simplistic facial features and exaggerated body parts. That's cartoony. There's absolutely nothing cartoony about any Pokemon in Litten line.

>>32105190
>you will never be a shiteating basic bitch

>>32105153
lol

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>Based Big Cat derails yet another thread

GOAT

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>>32105207
These 3 based Pokémon have the ability to trigger the most autistic anons on /vp/, I love it

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>>32105193
>There's absolutely nothing cartoony about any Pokemon in Litten line.

>Litten
>Exaggerated head size and tiny body for cuteness

>Torracat
>Takes a step towards realism but is still a simplified anime cat overall

>Incineroar
>Is a literal looney toon for the over the top villain look

What the actual shit are you on senpai?

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>>32105193
>Disproportionate != Cartoony.
There's a reason why people attribute disproportionate designs to cartoons mainly because a large majority of cartoon used disproportionate designs from Ed, Edd and Eddy to say Popeye.

>Cartoony design would one with exaggerated proportions in a humorous fashion
So a lot like Incineroar right? Because it's nearly a spitting image of the old strongman cartoon design that's top heavy but small on the bottom.
I mean this is the first image that comes up on google when you type in Cartoon Strongman and it's pretty much it to a T from the tiny wrists and small legs.

Of course what you're saying is true at the same time because Cartoonish designs can be just about anything that can be imagined.

Basically Cartoonish = nonsensical and unrealistic.

>Incinroarfags getting this defensive and angry after spamming the catalog with ineffective Rowlet hate

>>32105243
>Exaggerated head size and tiny body for cuteness
LITERALLY EVERY STARTER HAS THESE

>simplified anime cat overall
Yes, it looks like an anime cat in an anime style game. Big fucking surprise. Again, LITERALLY everything is anime-like in Pokemon.

>>Is a literal looney toon for the over the top villain look
It's disproportionate. Other than that, there's NOTHING looney toony about it.

I'm fucking done. I lose. Incineroar is the single fucking greatest thing to ever be conceived. It is THE most flawless thing, with every little detail on it being just the epitome of character design.

>>32105263
I love how owlfags get triggered even in threads not about Deci's line.

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>>32105263
>Implying you didn't spam those threads yourself

>>32105156
So nothing. Didn't expect anything, but still a bit disappointing.

>>32105307
Ah, caps.
The sign of someone who has no argument left.

>>32105307
They're cartoony you fucking mongoloid. Anime is a type of cartoon.

>I'm fucking done. I lose. Incineroar is the single fucking greatest thing to ever be conceived. It is THE most flawless thing, with every little detail on it being just the epitome of character design.
I'm not even remotely suggesting for you to believe that

I've noticed a lot of people using disproportionate in the wrong sense here.

>>32104902
Fuck off smogon

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>>32105331
>Anime is a type of cartoon
Not every fucking type of drawing is a fucking cartoon you fucking retard. A cartoon is a drawing in a simplified or exaggerated way. Cartoon is a type of anime, not the other way around.

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>>32105207
No one works the autists quite like big man beltigre

Gonna try to nudge this thread back on track by posting this guy right here.

>>32105364
>A cartoon is a drawing in a simplified or exaggerated way.
So most anime.
You realise shounens aren't the only anime out there right? That's like saying every cartoon is Avatar or Ulysses 31

>>32105383
From the current season, give enough examples to make up the "most" part you're referring to. And don't just fucking go "they have big eyes so exaggerated features". Eyes are part of anime artstyle. Their bodies and other features are what I'm talking about.

>>32105364
>A cartoon is a drawing in a simplified or exaggerated way.
So, the Litten line?

>>32105243
That image just doesn't look right.

>>32105382
How the fuck is Salamence overrated? It's popular, but overrated?

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>>32104324
No need to be upset. ;3

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>it's the "thread gets derailed into Alola starter war" episode
I dread the moment either of them gets an alternate form of any kind

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>>32105153
>all this nitpicking about Primarina's design
>comparing a sea serpent to a seal, each with different themes
>ywn be this retarded and autistic simultaneously

>>32105153
People are so much at a loss for ways to criticize Primarina and Decidueye that their arguments are "Blue and White are a jarring transition" and "This fictional creature doesn't make sense in this fictional world" and "they have human features/clothing, so they are bad"

>>32105197
>people who don't act like armchair design critics are shiteaters

wew. keep up that projection.

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As long as even one person likes this piece of shit, it's overrated.

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>>32105527
Overrated implies it should've be rated highly. It's a great looking Pokemon.

>>32105544
>should've
Shouldn't*

>>32105544
>draw a ring around a llama
>this is the god of the Pokémon world

>>32105510
The same thing can be said about Incineroar, in addition to "muh proportions".
All starters are equally good/bad.
All starters are equally

did anybody mention greninjash yet

>>32105544
>Overrated implies it shouldn't be rated highly
Of course it shouldn't. It's a fucking malnourished, meth-addict cervidae with a hula hoop ring and it has terrible lore.

>>32105394
Cinderella Girls Gekijou
Warau Salesman
Lunatan: 10,000-nen no Himitsu
Makeru na!! Aku no Gundan!
100% Pascal-sensei
The Snack World
Buppu na Mainichi
Akindo Sei no Little Peso
Puripuri Chii-chan!!
Nobunaga no Shinobi: Ise Kanegasaki-hen
Shounen Ashibe GO! GO! Goma-chan
Rilu Rilu Fairilu
Shin Chan is apparently getting a movie as is Doraemon

Then there's the hundreds of shorts pumped out that go unlisted.

Come to think of it most anime uses disproportionate and simple designs to represent old people, babies and what not. Then you have things like Appmon where only the main characters are particularly complex and everything else is made intentionally simple like Messemon or something.
Of course I'm just expecting you to go
>They don't count because they're cartoons!
Or something to that degree but you know what

Anime is just eastern cartoons

>>32105566
>>draw a ring around a llama
>>It's a fucking malnourished, meth-addict cervidae with a hula hoop ring
>implying either of those are even slightly bad things
I'm not even sure if this is a bait or you're just acting stupid on purpose to add more autism to this thread anymore.

>>32105153
I agree about Primarina, but I think you're giving Incineroar too much credit.

You argued that Decidueye's typing is nonsensical, yet Incineroar's is even more tacked-on. At least Decidueye looks "shadowy", whereas Incineroar's only reason to be dark is its coloration (they could have at least made it look more malevolent). When GF made Incineroar, they pretty much designed a fire-fighting, colored it black, and said it was a fire-dark.

Additionally, Incineroar's design is excruciatingly cliche. We already have a ton of "bipedal fire starters themed around combat", and we even have another "bipedal domestic-animal wrestler" that's a fire starer. I'll give Decidueye a pass because the only starters similar to it are Greninja and Empoleon, and they're certainly different. Also, besides Chesnaught (who's irrelevant) and arguably Sceptile, we don't have any bipedal grass starters (plus, it's an owl, so it kinda needs to be bipedal).

Also, Incineroar comes out of nowhere in the evo line. Torracat (despite being "it just gets bigger) had a lot of possibilities for its evolution. Its sleek design and dark typing suggests something stealthy, cunning, and definitely bipedal. But nope, we throw all of that away to get muscly fire starter #4. While Decidueye has some problems (your complaints about the bow are completely accurate) it at least is a consistent design all the way.

Also, I didn't care for Incineroar's design for a number of other reasons, but those are more subjective.

I wish Incineroar had better proportions and more speed.

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>>32105598
>Cinderella Girls Gekijou
>Puripuri Chii-chan!!
>Nobunaga no Shinobi: Ise Kanegasaki-hen
From the looks of what I got on google image, these three are just fine anime. There's nothing exaggerated or simplified in any way. Just made more cutesy.
Though I'm not 100% about the Nobunaga one, as some shots on google images lacked detail while others were just fine.

>100% Pascal-sensei
There's a single cartoony character in it, everyone else is just fine. If a single character is enough, then I guess the Berserk is cartoony manga because of Puck.

And even if I count all of these as cartoons, even the ones that were airing from before this season, even then it's just 14 out of the 87 anime that just started airing this season. More if you count the ones that were airing. So is this "most" anime? Because 14 out nearly 90 are cartoony, most anime is cartoony?

No, it's not. It's not even 20%. It's barely anything. Thanks for backing up my statement that cartoon is a style of anime, not the other way around.

>>32105660
>When GF made Incineroar, they pretty much designed a fire-fighting, colored it black, and said it was a fire-dark.
Except for the fact he's designed literally as a heel wrestler which are typically depicted as the villain in the act. As in the evil one if you needed clarification on what villain means.

>We already have a ton of "bipedal fire starters themed around combat"
We have three at best.
Blaziken - Kung Fu
Emboar - Sumo
Incineroar - Pro Wrestling which despite the name is actually acting rather than legitimate wrestling like Amateur Wrestling. Which is why it isn't a fighting type.

And before you bring up Infernape it's based on Sun Wukong who was more magic than fighting based so Infernape would have been better suited to Psychic if anything else and his HA should have been changed to protean given Sun can use Wind, Water and Ice abilities.

Anyway, it's a completely meaningless complaint and is akin to complaining about grass starters that are on all fours and look like a plant or tree of some kind or a bipedal water type of which all but Samurott (in most media) are.

>Incineroar comes out of nowhere in the evo line.
There's a fair bit of foreshadowing in the previous evo lines actually from Torracat using punches as a method of attack rather than scratching like a cat and it's more developed upper body.

> Its sleek design and dark typing suggests something stealthy, cunning, and definitely bipedal.
None of these words describes Torracat.
For one it's not sleek. It's arms are far more "muscular" than it was before.
Two it's not a dark type.
Three it's not stealthy and prefers to batter the opponent.
As for cunning, I wouldn't really call a Pokemon that acts like a spoiled child very cunning.

>it at least is a consistent design all the way.
Not really no. It's really all over the place the only thing that ties them together is the flavor text.

>>32105857
>Emboar - Sumo
It's actually another character from Journey to the West, the demon pig who first fights Sun, later joins him and does all sorts of cool stuff in the background.

>Sun Wukong who was more magic than fighting
His primary way to fight was melee combat, using his staff. So no, Fighting is the best pick. If anything, he should get Rock-type, because he was literally made of rock.

>Protean given Sun can use Wind, Water and Ice abilities
By that logic, Charizard should get the same, since there are European Dragons of all kinds, some capable of doing more than just spewing Fire.

Other than that, I've got nothing to say about your post.

>>32105764
I totally called it. You're really going with the "they don't count" path.

>Just made more cutesy.
Yeah, however that requires simplifying them and making them disproportionate. That's generally how the "kawaii" shows work in Japan.

>100% Pascal-sensei
Now, be honest here.
You only glanced at it didn't you. I mean even in the promo image you can see how simple the human characters are. Then there are the ones like the robot kid, knight and the Dog-like teacher. Not to mention it's a comedy so you know they're going to use the usual cartoon tropes.

> then I guess the Berserk is cartoony manga because of Puck.
You mean the one character in Berserk that follows your rules and does not follow the design philosophy of it.
Well if you want to call it a cartoon go ahead, I personally wouldn't call something so serious a cartoon because of one character. It'd have be something that uses it throughout like Pascal-sensei

>even then it's just 14 out of the 87 anime that just started airing this season.
You don't even know how many series are starting this season do you. Also we're going by your strict definitions here, any other person under the sun would place them under the same roof as cartoons because that's exactly what they are. Regardless of how "detailed" they get they're all going to be extremely simplified and have varying degrees of disproportionate designs at some point or the other. After all that's precisely why the term Moeblob came about.
Oh and this season still doesn't represent the entirety of anime either mind you.

I don't think you quite understand what makes something a cartoon.

And just out of curiosity what would you consider Avatar?

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>>32106177
>I totally called it. You're really going with the "they don't count" path.
N-NANI?!

>that requires simplifying them and making them disproportionate
They looked like normal humans with normal amount of detail. Only like pic related of my previous post, they had small kids with rounder faces, like kids do have in real life.

>how simple the human characters are
They're as normal as they get.

>robot kid, knight and the Dog-like teacher
The robot still seems to have a body same as the other kids, just detailed differently. Can't see clearly, so not sure. As for the knight, I didn't even notice him, and I still can't clearly see him, so I don't know how cartoony he is, so no comment on this.

>usual cartoon trope
We're talking about artstyle and the LOOK. Not the tropes.

>follows your rules
Correction: the very definition of cartoon, not my rules.

>I personally wouldn't call something so serious a cartoon because of one character.
Again, the serious tone has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand.
And no, I wouldn't call Berserk a cartoon, but the artstyle Puck is usually depicted in is cartoony.

>You don't even know how many series are starting this season do you
How about correcting me instead, then? Admittedly, I made a mistake here. I checked the wrong season by mistake. Counting continuing shows, because I'm not going to bother with taking them out again, Winter season, at least according to MAL, had a total of 210 shows. There's a lot more cartoons included in this, such as Shin-chan and Doraemon, so the numbers are still probably the same.

>And just out of curiosity what would you consider Avatar?
I wouldn't dare call it an anime, but it's not a cartoon, at the very least. As far as artstyle is concerned though, it is anime.

>have varying degrees of disproportionate designs
>because I say so!
The only unrealistic part is their faces, with big round eyes, non-existent lips and nose. The rest is literally the same as any human.

>>32104339
>his

>>32104980
>More flaws than any starter

>What is Emboar
>What is Delphox

>>32104324
Decidueye is the most popular one though. Incineroar has a niche in the furrydom and I guess the same can apply to Primarina but they are all BTFO by Rowlet line.

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>>32105510
It is jarring with the way they set the colors, and being fictional doesn't prevent a design from being fucking stupid. Again, Pokemon has a certain level of realism that is extremely low, and Decidueye still fails to meet it. If Charizard's wings were shaped like boulders, it would look fucking stupid flying with them, even though it's a cartoon. Sure, you could say "it flies with magic," but in that case it doesn't need the stupid fucking wings. Same concept.

>>32105488
Being a seal doesn't excuse having a ton of clutter slapped on it instead of flowing naturally from the body. The mermaid excuse doesn't work when another Pokemon did it much better.

>>32107820
>>32107841
I disagree

>>32105153
>>32107820
Well, I didn't really want to respond because you just seem too spiteful to allow new things in - but alas.

There's not really much I can say against your points for Decidueye as that's just how Decidueye is but as I'm sure you're already aware, I don't agree with you at all.

Everything you said about Primarina, however, is pretty much just subjective. I, along with most certainly a lot of other people on the board do not see this "jarring" element to the split within its colours and for me the combination is pretty cohesive in both visual appeal and what it's trying to convey. The frills are also used there to soften said split further, emulating a wavy, calming aquatic look which is absolutely beautiful. It's honestly interesting that you like to compare it to Milotic, who arguably is far more jarring within its aesthetics in the form of its mosaic pattern tail - something that I've always found jarring and cluttered myself. Different strokes for different blokes, eh?

Addressing the point of "tacked on nonsensical shit", well; here we go. First of all, the aforementioned spikes on its torso are used for it to stabilise itself when swimming underwater and granting it the ability to manoeuvre nimbly, a trait of real life sea lions. These spikes are honestly my favourite part of Primarina's entire design, just simple little touches that bring a tad bit of build and realism into it.
As for the other "nonsensical shit" - I assume you are referring to its frills and starfish. Honestly, there's no real way for me to defend the tiara-like frill on its head as I haven't found a purpose or reasoning behind it yet. The frills on its body and tail, however, once again grant it that soothing ocean wave look that you'd expect out of a mermaid design.
The starfish are pretty simply, they're both a homage to classic Disney-like mermaids and in combination with the bobbles on its head, a simulation of headphones wrapping around its skull.

>>32107969
In closing, I just can't really take any of your arguments seriously. It all just appears to be incohesive whining that fails to take into account both how it can appeal to other people and the origins of the elements within in its design. Everything you point out is a flaw is ultimately a reason as to why Primarina has become my (joint) all-time favourite Pokemon - every single part of it is just so well thought out and explorable. I fucking love the thing.
You really don't need to suddenly like it, that's a given. Going about ranting and raving, insulting the design and claiming it's a travesty, however; you're just being silly.

>>32107969
I don't feel like everything needs to have a reason to be part of a design. The tiara just looks good, so I'm okay with it (there probably is a reason for it, but understanding it is not always necessary). Congratz on giving him a serious answer though, I couldn't bring myself to do it.

>>32105153
ITT: People rant about design then get upset when their favorite gets destroyed by this guy.

>>32105243
What is Rowlet and Popplio lines for all these.

>>32104259
Because it's a Dragon-type.

>>32107969
>>32108012
Thank you so much for saying this. While not immediately obvious to some people, it's a fact that every little detail about Primarina just has much thought put behind it. I can't stand when people dismiss them as "clutter", it's uninformed and wrong.

Now since the dust has settled.
Fun quick question.
Who will benefit the SM anime more? Decidueye or Incineroar.

It's not about who will be the shield mon.
>so on out of here comedy relief fag.
It's what will happen if they do become the ace mon.

Choose one and tell me witch one would benefit the the anime more. Witch one will get more views, how much viewers will they loose. How good will they be in the market compared to the other one. Who will get triggered.

I need your thoughts anons

>>32108092
how? >>32107969 >>32108012 brought a way better, much more in-depht argument.

>Ovbious answer
>Probably said earlier
>Don't care

Pikachu.

Really, over 700 Pokémon now, but this little fucker is still everywhere.
It's given way too much screentime, it gets too much attention, and, legit, EVERYONE knows who Pikachu is. Ask them to name a different Kanto Pokémon, and then they'll say, "What's Kanto?" Fucking pathetic.
The fucking anime is the cause of all this BS. Think of Viridian Forest with that rare Pikachu. In the games, it's a hidden gem that actually helps you out with it's evolved form, Raichu. The anime keeps Ash's Pikachu unevolved but makes it super OP. So all of these dumbfucks praise Pikachu but not in the right way. Plus, just in general, there are way better Electric Types out there.

But, yeah, yeah, that's fine and all.
But what MAKES MY FUCKING BLOOD BOIL is the fact that Pikachu is LITERALLY the ONLY ONE shown on merchandise.
Can I get something else for once? Can I get a tee with Brendan and May on it or something? Or any other Pokémon?
NOOOOOPE, IT'S FUCKING PIKACHU, PIKACHU, PIKACHU.
>PIKACHU ON SHIRTS
>PIKACHU ON PANTS
>PIKACHU ON HATS
>PIKACHU ON SOCKS
>PIKACHU ON CONDOMS
Just fucking quit already.

I am tired of seeing that motherfucking face everywhere.

Ugh.

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>>32104259
>overrated
ZardX is the ace of the GOAT Trainer. Respect it.

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>>32105364
Nothing like triggered weebs sperging out

I really hate Dunsparse.

>>32105364
>Cartoon is a type of anime
LMAO weebs

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>>32106765
>Incineroar has a niche in the furrydom and I guess the same can apply to Primarina

I think Decidueye is actually the most popular among furries. I've yet to see a single Incineroar/Primarina fursuit.

>>32108499
>I think Decidueye is actually the most popular among furries. I've yet to see a single Incineroar/Primarina fursuit.

So let me get this strait. You think Decidueye is more of a furry just because people dress up as him?

>Autism strikes back.

Of course you see people dressing up as a Decidueye, because they don't want to dress up as a loonytoon cat, and as for primarena, I think they'll have problems trying to walk as a pokemon with no feet.

They dress up as Decidueye because he's cool and we'll known, they probably think incineroar is like a disgrace to the furry community.

Yes furrys do like Decidueye more then incineroar. But is that really a secret.

And just because a certain group likes it better, it doesn't mean it's more of a furrymon then literally a man in a catsuit wearing a tiger mask.

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>>32109004
>Autism strikes back.

Lucario is the only overrated pokemon.

>>32109004
>>32109012
Don't start this shit again.

Why do I have a crippling suspicion that even a goddamn Incineroar fursuit will have better proportions than the real deal?

Eeveelutions. Their designs aren't interesting, and they're not even that cute, yet Gamefreak keeps shovelling these things. Sylveon looks flat out disgusting and is the worst design they've ever done.

>Disclaimer: This is my opinion. You don't have to reply, or agree in any way... However, I have an amazing sense of style, excellent taste, and a mind for the facts, so, while you may disagree, it's safe to say that my opinion is as close to fact as any subjective piece of literature can be, and it's probably a good idea to think on my words here today.

Incineroar is bad.

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Hard to take the proportions argument for Incineroar seriously when this guy has almost all of the same "problems" (very unrealistic looking, barely even looks like a bird, looks like a midget in a feathersuit, is a wrestler) but still pretty much gets universal acclaim. There's nothing inherently bad about the design, I think people were just salty because they were expecting something completely different.

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>>32109004
>only furries like Incineroar! Worthless furbait!
>w-what?! Decidueye is more popular with furries? That's because it's cool! Not because furries find him attractive!
I'm not a part of this discussion, just wanted to point out your autism

>>32109004
Fuck off falseflagger.