>it has less than 100 accuracy AND does recoil

>>32101277
>only 80 BP
Is there a move more JUST than Submission?

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>>32101319
At least it looks rad and is super satisfying to land in Pokkén

>>32101319
hyper beam
>once the most meta defining move in the game
>now complete garbage, even ingame.
>has several variants that are all garbage
>Z-move damage cap ruined their one chance to shine again
>Now the subject of a shit tier meme

>>32101364
Z-Hyper Beam and Z-Giga Impact are actually pretty good and relevant in the current meta. Put them on setup mons not resisted by Steel or Rock that happen to wall your STAB to blow through them.

>>32101319
Yes. A turn to charge Razor Wind and only for 80 bp;

>>32101425
and it isn't even flying type

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>>32101319
Curse (Ghost-type)

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>Mega Punch and Mega Kick
>both powerful normal moves, but inaccurate
>signature moves for the Hitmons, but since they didn't receive stab on them, why use them
>overall worse than Body Slam and Hyper Beam since former provided paralysis and the other skipped the recharge if you KOd the opponent
>didn't get better in Gen II, Return is now almost as strong and entirely accurate

Pointless moves all in all, although Mega Punch was somewhat handy since it's an early TM.

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>>32101277
>Take Down
>Normal type
>90 damage
>85% accuracy
>Has 25% recoil

Slam
>80 BP
>75% accuracy

Worst move in the game

>>32101425
It's so fucking overpowered in PMD.

>>32101635
>worst move in the game
I think Constrict still takes that title unless they somehow changed how it works in SM

>>32101510
That's useful if you have a suicide bomber.

>>32101943
doesn't constrict lowers enemy speed?
and z-splash raise atk by 3 stages...

>>32101966
Only 10% of the time, and it has only 10 BP

>>32102058
i still think vine whip is worse.

>>32101319
So did gf forget submission to do something about it?

Barrage has got to be the worst
>15 bp
>85% accurate
>blocked by bulletproof
>physical
>given only to a predominantly special attacker

>>32101422
Indeed. Z-moves were a godsend for pokemon with setup options but lack coverage to complement their STAB. Z-Hyper Beam Serperior OHKOs Char-Y at +2

>>32101925
Fairly sure it wasn't room hitter until something like Gates/Super.

>>32101610
It is just a move to use ingame, not competitively. Double Edge is just a better Take Down anyways

Herdier with Take Down destroys early BW

>>32101610

Fucking Take Down. My Gumshoos just learnt it and it missed on it's first three consecutive attempts. I hate this move, but they put Return obnoxiously late. I hate the accuracy of this move the most, and everything seems to get it as well rather than a good move.