Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

SM18 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=908492

SM17 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_017_Alola_Detective_Rotom!_The_Mystery_of_the_Lost_Crystal!![H264_720P][5C9E1022].mkv.torrent

XY&Z45 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_045_One_Last_Battle_with_Satoshi!_Serena's_Choice!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][689BDB20].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Special_-_The_Ultimate_Duo!_Citron_and_Dent!![H264_720P][D17531C2].mkv.torrent

MOVIE 19 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=882608

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 19 - INTENSE ELECTRIC SHOCK TRAINING! A REMATCH WITH KAPU-KOKEKO!! (MARCH 23RD)
>The popular comedian Abareru-kun appears in the anime as a character. Don't miss his passionate battle with Satoshi. Also, Satoshi and Pikachu battle Kapu-Kokeko again! Will Satoshi win this time?!

>Summary:
>Satoshi and the others have dropped by Māmane's house after school. They're there in order to get advice from the Electric type expert Māmane on how to win against the legendary Pokémon Kapu-Kokeko, which they have battled once before. Satoshi and Pikachu also train with Māmane, and gain confidence about the battle. And then Kapu-Kokeko appeared right before their eyes!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Abareru-kun: Hiroki
>Megumi Hayashibara: Iwanko
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amamaiko
>Yuji Ueda: Māmane's dad
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 75 (Mar 19th)
>Abareru-kun and the Others Get Turned Into Past Shokotans and Confront Kasu-Kokeko in a Game in Order to Turn Back to Their Old Selves!

The Exact 20th Anniversary for the Pokémon Anime "Pokémon no Uchi Atsumaru?" Special (Apr 1st)
>On Saturday April 1st 2017, it will be the exact 20th birthday of the "Pocket Monsters" anime, which started airing April 1st 1997.
>At the house where Pokémon fans gather, "Pokénchi", both the Pokénchi residents and guests that truly love Pokémon will gather to celebrate that the Pokémon anime is now 20 years old!!
>We will bring you tons of precious and nostalgic clips from TV series and movies featuring famous touching scenes and famous Pokémon battles that won't fail to excite you!
>Not only that, but Abareru-kun and Shokotan will leave Pokénchi to visit a company that produces Pokémon toys, as well as "other Pokénchi"!
>And you can't miss the special live concert with Rica Matsumoto, the voice of Satoshi!
>To celebrate this memorable day, just say "I Choose You" to this special program!!

SM20 - The Promise Between Satoshi and Pikachu (Apr 6th)
>Satoshi has gone shopping with his classmates when he hears talk about a small island located nearby that's known under the name "Treasure Island". Satoshi immediately set off for Treasure Island, and as he spent some alone time with Pikachu there, he once again strengthened his feelings towards it. And as it was getting dark, a mysterious, shining Pokémon appeared in the sky, and......?

SM21 - It is Time for Nyabby to Set Off! (Apr 6th)
>As Satoshi is in the city doing some shopping, he spots the Nyabby he has has met before. He goes to Nyabby's home, where the old Mooland that guides Nyabby in life is. And after a while, Nyabby incredibly enough asks Satoshi for help. It appears that Mooland is extremely ill, and as Satoshi hears Nyabby tell him this, he...

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!EAcUCTrZ!pVFBHejs9JcUzK7M1YE2oQ_ns753N5O0ldYFfHW_ra0

POSE:
https://mega.nz/#!TlYTBZ5A!kZi8TzDkFIHwsU10_0PuZrVDoymIGjuPWWg0XcXxDws

>>32086590
>STILL making threads this early

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I love Lillie

>>32086627
Fuck off Hau

>>32086612
>>32086619
Look at the filename, he's that fag who is always making new threads and spends around 16 hours here in padt.

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Dawn best girl.

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reminder

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>>32086590
Connie?

>>32086649
There's nothing special about the filename, you paranoid autist.

>>32086663
Fuck off Barafag autist, I'm still enjoying you salty ass Barafag shittenfag tears

>the old threado just hit bump limit
>a new thread is made
>autistic filename
OP should be gassed

>>32086707
>>32086649
literally who cares

in before "new xD", browsed these threads since they started and it never mattered.

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>>32086590
>>32086664

nah man it's Matsuda from DXD.

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Who is the best girl and why is it Sophocles' mom?

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but, a butt

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>>32086627
tell us more Satoshi!

>>32086729
We'll find out next week. Or maybe she knows how to rock the big chick look.

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>>32086750
>rock the big chick look

you have to go back

needs more team rocket episodes

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>>32086749

>>32086775
DELET

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what is its endgame?

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Ash seriously looks like he's 5 years old in some shots. Sasuga SM.

I want to find the person who came up with this design of Ash and punch him or her in the face.

I love Lana's armpits!

>>32086803
ow the edge

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>>32086803
It was this guy, they interviewed him on Oha Suta once while promoting the show.

is there more mallow butt pics?

>>32086844
Also, his name is Satoshi Nakano, not Satoshi Mukano, I can't spell.

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>>32086803

>>32086844
Fuck this guy for single-handedly ruining Ash and the Pokemon anime then

>>32086901
Lewd

>>32086844
JUST

>>32086775
>>32086749
>>32086837
>>32086876
>>32086901
>>32086925
Not this shit again

>>32086803
>M-muh badass edgy Ash!!!!!!!

Something tells me youre under 18

>>32086950
Are you sure you're over 18 if you prefer this clown of an Ash? And no this is not how 10 year olds behave if they're non-degenerate.

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>>32086883
>implying it wasn't already ruined since Unova and Kalos

The only reason you faggots liked Xy and XYz was because Ash was apparently a forced "badass". I'm glad that Ash is gone for good it was ruining the Pokemon anime anyway. Sun Moon Ash is way better

>>32086729
>Who is the best girl and why is it Sophocles' Ballchu?

Fixed that for ya

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Stitch time, really fun episode today.

Ash and Mallow pair up really well together, it makes a part of me wish that Alola was a typical region with travelling partners and she was one of them.

She and Ash almost feel like brother and sister, a dynamic Ash hasn't really had yet with any of his friends.

1/8

>>32086983
Nice try,Fato

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>>32087001
2/8

Steenee is really cute, I I hope she gets a lot more screentime with Rowlet. It'd be fun to have an episode where the two are forced to hang out together similar to the episode with Rowlet, Litten, and Poplieo.

>>32086978
>kid acting like a kid
>degenerate

authentic, bona-fide autist detected

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>>32087020
3/8

>>32087020
>she

>>32086981
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

>>32086663
I actually prefer Borb to the other comedy relief Pokemon
Is this a crime?

>>32086803
Firing squat for those who came up with the SM style and for changing Serena when?

>>32087030
wow, this kid is furious

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>>32087028
4/8

>>32087029
It's gender ratio is 100% female.

>>32087031
No. Borb a cute.

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What happen heree!?

>>32087029
Just give up

>>32087034
Fuck off to >>>/pol/.

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>>32087046
5/8

>>32087048
main girl animation
only main girl understand

>>32087046
>Bulbapedo will still say it might be male

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>>32087058
6/8

>>32087048
One of the anons posted a screenshot last night from the Oha preview and it had this terrible looking Pikachu and Ash face while he was turning his head.

Another boring episode, if it weren't for Steene's evolution, it would have been yet another dull filler.

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>>32087028

>>32087031
no

borb isn't obnoxious or attention-seeking like chespin and oshawott. just cute and comedy, sometimes hotblood

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>>32087071
7/8

>>32087077
Hi Scott

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>>32087048

>>32087085
AAAAAAAAHHH I LOVE YOU LANA! PLEASE BE MY WIFE!!!!

>>32087096
Calm your tits lolifag

>>32087085
Aside from showing few meme faces and having moments where her autism gets triggered, Lana has been and continues to be irrelevant.

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When is the next Popplio episode?

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>>32087085
8/8 My only big disappointment in this episode is that there wasn't a full/half body shot of Mallow to stitch, or anything of her to stitch in this case. We got plenty shots of her blushing though, so I guess that makes up for it.

Like always here's the SM album: http://imgur.com/a/CElwS

And I also put together an XY album for those interested: http://imgur.com/a/j32dX

>>32087078
Did you make Lillie bigger? I don't see the change.

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>>32087109
aside from clogging up the thread, your opinion continues to be irrelevant

>>32087114
He cut out some of the hair that was blocking the front of her neck/throat to make her look like a giraffe

>>32087114
>Did you make Lillie bigger? I don't see the change.
He removed her hair to show how badly drawn her neck was

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>>32087129
k

>>32087133
but it wasn't. the skin below the strand is her clavicle.

>>32087110
Not sure, but if Litten does end up joining the crew in SM21 or a little after, it'll be interesting to see how Popplio reacts.

>>32087143
glad you agree, nigger

>>32086803
Actually, he looks Asian in the picture on the right.

>>32087048
Add it to the list.

>>32087153
>not knowing the "okay" guy meme

>>32086729
Fat fucks.

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>>32087073
Found it, it was one of the screens that preview .webm anon uploaded

>>32087176
She's acceptable

>>32087071
>SM hypu.jpg
But seriously this is a good capture anon

>>32086729
>Sophocles has both of his parents

What sorcery

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>>32087181
>Pikachu's face

so I take periodic breaks from this threads and come back just to ask this question: is SM still shit?

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What's with sun and moon and the amount of family members introductions? the only one who seem interesting are lillie's family due to the game, and maybe Mallow's brother since it's related to her goal

>>32087267
10/10

>>32086981
>Ash was apparently a forced "badass"
No. XY and XYZ had character development, satisfying arcs, and genuine hype moments. it was essentially another round of everything that made DP the best season and updated it. I don't get why this is so hard to come to terms with.

>>32087298
Because he's shitposting. Just another variant on the "Gary Stu" meme.

>>32087260
It's never been shit. It's just been kind of boring/dull

>>32087260
It hasn't improved any recently, if that's what you mean.

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>>32087276
I like that we're seeing the families of all of Ashs friends, you get to see their backgrounds and home life and what they were doing before they met Ash. It gives the main group more depth.

>>32087306
More Hoshi when?

>>32087276
> maybe Mallow's brother since it's related to her goal
explain.

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>>32087048
I tried

>>32087276
Because most have been introduced in what in previous seasons would have been "Ash and co. meet Character of the Day and his/her family". Nos replace Character with Classmate, and you have essentially half of SM's non-plot episodes.

>>32087260
come back in three years when the next series starts, if they revert Ash's design and next series got gyms and league it'll be good. there is no hope for SM, sadly

that faggola here, holy shit I wasn't expecting Bounsweet to evolve

how was the episode
was there exposition
are we hype to meet Fat Boy's parents and Abareru-kun next week

>>32087340
It was alright, kinda dull outside the evolution but Mallow was cute
A little but not really, it was kinda fillery otherwise
Abareru-kun yeah, and fat fuck's parents eh

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>tfw cant time travel to next week to watch the next episode already

>>32087298
probably because it isn't true

>character development
for serena, sure. except it had absolutely no impact on the plot. her only purpose was cheering ash up twice, the same exact way as before all her "development." nobody else developed.

>satisfying arcs
fucking what? do you mean the arcs that ended with everyone losing, making the whole thing a waste of time? or the arcs where literally nothing happened until the very last second, as if that somehow makes up for the wasted time before that?

>genuine hype
hype towards things that never happened.

>>32087306
Okay but why should I care about them? They all have families, that's fine and all, but so what?

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>>32087276
>sophocles's parents look the same
THIS IS LIKE VAN HOUTEN BULLSHIT RIGHT HERE, WHY DO CARTOONS DO THIS SHIT? THE KID SHOULD BE A MIX OF THE PARENTS, NOT THE PARENTS BIGGER VERSIONS OF THE KID

>>32087365
their families are entertaining. why do they need to be anything more than that? do you realize what show you're watching?

lillie's family is probably plot, too.

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>>32087352
;_;

>>32087365
It gives the main cast more depth, they don't just spawn out of nowhere. We see their homes, everyday life.

It's called character and world building.

>>32087298
didn't even address "another round of DP." total horseshit.

xy's rivals were garbage, serena's goal was completely forced, she was way less dynamic than dawn, and greninja's arc doesn't hold a candle to chimchar. the battles were better too, xy's were just prettier. lake acuity is better than any battle in xy.

>>32087390
>the families are entertaining
Barely. Seriously, all they usually do is mundane shit around the house. Hoshi was amusing, everyone else at Kiawe's ranch was boring for instance. All the dad did was have his picture taken. The mom basically just led a prayer. What have the other family members done that was of relevance to the show, its plot, its direction?

They basically just exist for the sake of existing, outside of Lillie's mom and brother, who, ironically enough, haven't actually made any in-person appearances yet. I need a genuine reason to give a shit about these characters besides "they seem nice/entertaining because they exist and we see them do housework" or whatever.

>>32087427
not everything has to have a direct impact on the plot you autist. like the other guy said, it's character and world building. that's completely okay for side characters. that's what they're for.

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>>32086590
>Reminder that Sun Moon Ash is based and Serena is gone for good and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it

except you know, whine and cry :^)

>>32087409
>character and world building
Stuff that previous series did better without having to resort to just putting other characters on screen for the hell of it. A general rule of storywriting...don't start loading up the show with characters who don't do anything important and try to bill them as really important "character episodes." Otherwise you're just writing a season of filler episodes, which is kind of what SM a has felt like sometimes.

It's not BAD, but it's hard for me to give much of a shit about most of these family members they're throwing in there, and even some of the schoolmates themselves like Lana and fat fuck.

>>32087415
XY's rivals were fine for what they were. After Paul all other rivals were just going to be friendly rivals anyway.

SM > OS >AG > BW > DP > XY

I'm so looking forward to watching the same fucking Pikachu Z move stock footage for the third time next week.

>>32087446
when people say "character episodes" they're not talking about the family members, they mean the character whose family they're showing.

>previous series did better without having to resort to just putting other characters on screen for the hell of it
name one example

>>32087340
>how was the episode
Pretty meh
>was there exposition
Some
>are we hype to meet Fat Boy's parents and Abareru-kun next week
Parents no, Abareru-kun fuck yeah

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>>32087442

>>32087440
>not everything has to have a direct impact on the plot
Never said everything had to, that's why we have filler episodes. But so far this is pretty much all we're getting: forgettable COTD filler-like episodes by another name, with some of them having an evolution or capture or whatever shoehorned in for like two minutes to try to save face.

And even if they are "character and world building," the same point remains...why should I care, if the main characters like Sophocles and Lana and such aren't doing anything worthy?

>>32087427
The entire joke with the dad was that he was acting like this super stiff businessman. It's kinda funny if you're familiar with the stereotype.

>>32087357
What is this supposed to mean? Every character had a proper arc in XY. Outside of Ash never beating Alan, XY delivered everything else it promised. They wrapped up Serena the best possible way they could in terms of her goal and Amourshipping, and Bonnie/Clemont had plenty of great moments in the series.

>>32087454
>friendly
no, you nigger. it's not about their personality. it's about their dynamic with ash. there was no character conflict or emotional subtext. just ash slapping shota around for the hundredth time, and losing to alain forever, making ash-greninja a complete waste of time. there was nothing on the line in terms of their rivalry so the battles had no emotional drive.

>>32087357
for the entire cast.

>Ash in the first gym battle has a crisis where he questions his ability as a trainer, but sticks to his convictions
>during the last gym battle sticking to his convictions is what causes him to lose, leading to him having to reevaluate his convictions
pottery.

>clemont goes from unsure beta who gets kicked out of his own gym to an alpha who gives Ash one of the best battles in the series

Bonnie probably gets the least but thats because she's already such a versatile character that you can make her the star of almost any filler and have it be engaging.

>Alain goes from edge lord to a humble guy

>watching lysandre progressively lose his shit as he goes from this charismatic devious man to the psychopath we see dying in the inferno in characterization the gen 6 games wish they had.

>do you mean the arcs that ended with everyone losing
The arcs where everyone grew by the end. we knew they'd lose from the beginning however the ride was so damn good we managed to fool ourselves into thinking this was endgame. it's truly a case of the journey making the destination worth it and that last episode (hell the entire team flare arc) was the most satisfying conclusion to any Pokemon series before it.

>brobowl (or any gym battle for that matter sense almost all of them were pretty hype) didn't happen
>megabowl didn't happen
>league didn't happen
>flare arc didn't happen
You really are in denial. are you by any chance a SM apologist? I know they habitually try to bring other series down to SMs level.

>>32087415
>xy's rivals were garbage
They weren't paul because paul is just too elder god tier to ever be touched again but they were great rivals and you just knew you were getting a good fight when they showed up.

> serena's goal was completely forced
which goal? the performances or Ash? because both were executed flawlessly. "forced" as a criticism doesn't make sense. it worked, it made sense, it progressed naturally. on battles XY>DP

>>32087465
How about the very first episode of XY, where Serena's mom was introduced in a way that wasn't just for the hell of it. It was entertaining AND did the story stuff in one fell swoop.

It served to establish one of the foundations of Serena's character arc, which centered on her being forced to do something she didn't want to do. It was something actually had a story behind it and a natural path forward. Serena's arc from XY08 to XY38 was boring unfortunately, but her mom was someone we knew we needed to pay attention to, and we knew Serena would have to reckon with her mother's heavyhandedness later on.

With these random "let's meet the family" episodes in SM, there's been little to none of that. It's been the family members just doing things for the sake of doing them. And the most potentially interesting family members from a story standpoint like Gladion, Lusamine and Kiawe's grandpa didn't even appear in the flesh.

>>32087517
Unf

>>32087523
Oh, and add in XY02 and XY03 for more of Serena's mom, which also did similar things to set us up for later on the road while still managing to throw in some humor and cuteness.

>>32087239
might as well add this to the folder as well

Paul was one of the few good things DP had.

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>>32087517
>>32087525

>>32087481
>character building is filler
you are an absolute fool. if all you care about is plot then go read a plot summary, don't know why you're even watching the show.

>>32087544
DP advanced the show in every possible way. It basically took what the writers learned from AG and went further with it. Had they gotten rid of Brock than DP would have been even better.

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>>32087481
>why should I care about world and character building
>why should I care about the world we're seeing be expanded on to make it feel more alive
Holy shit your stupid. You talk about not wanting bland characters and a boring world, but you can't have that if you don't have something to build off of.

Kaki's episode made his character a lot stronger then before it aired.
We learned he's a siscon, overprotective, a really hard worker. Traits he picked up from his mother, father, and grandfather.

That there is something we wouldn't have known if not for meeting them. You learn a lot about a kid by how their parents act.

Before the episode we could say Kaki is a strong battler and is uptight and strict. We wouldn't have known about his endearing side if not for his episode at home.

>>32087549
>>32087571
"Character building" happens pretty much every fucking episode of the anime. Same with "world building." By your logic, nothing can be filler because everything gives us more details on characters and the universe.

The Clemont-Bonnie episode with the Meowstic for example, served to tighten their sibling bond, but guess what? It was filler because nothing of any importance to the anime's general direction really happened.

The Parfum Palace episode...the gang got to see that palace and we saw Clemont weasel his way out of trouble thanks to SCIENCE. Guess what though, it was filler.

How hard of a concept is this for you to understand?

>>32087510
motherfucker ash's two 5 minute crises in a 150 episode series do not make a character plot. they're not development either, it's just ash faltering and then going back to where he was. he doesn't grow as a character in the slightest. outside of these two moments he's just a battling automaton and occasional serena wank.

clemont remains the same through the whole series: a beta who steps up to the plate when he needs to. the only development is episode 9.

bonnie had no development.

i'll give you alain's development. frankly i always held the mega specials were the only good part of xy.

lysandre was always an evil maniac. losing his composure isn't character development.

nobody fucking grew except serena. and i'm not saying that character building for its own sake is inherently bad, but you're glorifying her role in the story.

none of those delivered. even listing the league unironically just shits on your whole statement. it was pure garbage even before the loss, the loss was just the final nail in the coffin.

if xy doesn't compare to dp in the things that made dp good, then it's not another fucking round of dp.

I'll even add the Bunnelby flashback episode as an example. It was a "character backstory" episode with nothing that really affected the show going forward.

It was basically a filler too as a result, though most people here actually liked it because it expounded on a Pokemon and trainer we had reason to care about.

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>>32087571
>your stupid

>>32087606
Ash himself was at the apex of his arc in XY. He was the leader of his group and the strongest trainer. We didn't get a repeat of Paul/Chimchar, but then again why would you want the anime to do the same thing again?

Also Bonnie had development with squishy and her brother. Obviously a little girl isn't going to change that much, but she had plenty of character moments.

>>32087591
we already knew that clemont and bonnie fight and make up. we knew that clemont can take charge sometimes. those episodes didn't build character like the family ones in sm did.

only lana's sisters were pretty much pure fluff, but it was brief and entertaining.

>>32087606
>ash's two 5 minute crises
>not noticing the second one building up ever since the first time he fainted.
yeah I'm just gonna dismiss the rest, if you missed development that obvious you obviously have no clue what you're talking about so its not worth reading.

>>32087631
>>32087499
>>32087562
Scott is that you again?

>>32087591
>characters getting more depth is filler
A real example of filler in XY is the house of puzzles episode towards the end of the series, or the Litten episode where nothing happens at all.

The episode at the start of XYZ where the gang help fix a robot to make the ground farmable, while looking like filler, actually gives you a good look at Clemont and how he has changed over the course of 100 episodes.

I didn't say all episodes provided substance, but a lot do.

>>32087622
If all you care about is plot, drop the series and come back in a year so you can skip 90% of the episodes that happen inbetween that time. It's fucking Pokemon, the show has always been slow with a bunch of filler episodes in the series. The difference though between SM and other series is that instead of having CoTD's or random Pokemon of the days, we're getting characters who actually have or had a direct influence on the cast and we get to learn about them. They may even appear again at a later date.

>>32087641
People are bashing DP and XY again, I can't stand idly by and watch that happen.

>>32087631
he didn't develop. that's the point. he struggled early on, and they could have developed that more, since that's what shonen is about. but most of the series he just roflstomped the whole region until getting cockblocked by alain, and then never progressing past that despite overcoming the hurdles that prevented him from doing so.

development is an upwards motion. there was no upwards slope, just a horizontal line leading to a dead end.

>>32087571
That's the one character focus episode people here actually liked.
Now defend any of the others that way.

>>32087020
This. Hopefully we also get a Steenee/Brionne or a Tsareena/Primarina episode later down the road.

Almost every episode in SM has felt like filler.

>>32087673
(you)

>>32087636
exactly. all that build up for five minutes of moping in the forest. even the intro was disingenuous.

that's not development. you could argue greninja developed, but it wasn't in any logical way. he and ash just suddenly, arbitrarily "clicked" so his special snowflake birthright started working. compare that to chimchar's power emerging from his anger at his abusive past, and learning to control it by trusting his trainer again. that's fucking development.

>>32087633
>we already knew that clemont and bonnie fight
And? That was because it came later in the series. And luckily for us, the character/world building was happening in other episodes where lots of neat stuff was happening. XY09 was another good example of character and world building since we meet Clemont's dad (in his normal identity, not Blaziken Mask) and Citroid. But in that episode there's actually other interesting shit that happens too that directly builds Clemont's character vis a vis him taking back his gym from Citroid, and it helped us build anticipation for BroBowl.

XY15, that Chespin filler...that was also character building and development, though will you hear many people here say that was "a character focus episode and not a filler"?

There are literally hundreds of past filler episodes that do exactly what you're saying, but somehow when SM does them, they're "character/world building episodes."

Good lord, it comes off as really desperate damage controlling when people keep making this same argument to defend SM's lack of coherent direction or lack of interesting character arcs.

>>32087654
Lanas episode was less about her family but introduced us to her sisters who were cute, until we have a full episode dedicated to her and her sisters doing stuff there's nothing to really defend considering that episode was about Lana's goal and not home life.

I need to wait for subs before I can properly say anything about today episode without saying baseless stuff. But we learned that Mallow wants to take over the restaurant, that her brother I believe is going around the world finding new recipes which Mallow learns herself from his notes, as for her dad I can't say much until subs.

Lillie's episode was major foreshadowing and we'll get proper Lusamine stuff later on. But, it did give us a look at Lillie's home life. Before Snowball arrived, Lillie lived in that giant mansion alone with her maids and butlers, her mother lives elsewhere and her brother isn't home either. We know the reasons why, but it hasn't been explained in show yet. Lillie is actually a very lonely character if you think about it, not only that we've seen that Mallow really cares for Lillie because of that episode. She visits so that Lillie wouldn't be alone in that giant mansion.

>>32087267
A plant shouldn't be this cute.

>>32087645
Where did I say all I care about is plot? Seriously? You think I didn't sit through filler after filler during early XY or during OS's Johto days or even some of the duller slogs of AG? I know exactly what filler episodes are, and I can tell you that past series did better at having the right amounts of plot and nonplot, making the characters' purposes/roles clear early on, and character-building/world-building every step of the way, whether in "character/world-building" episodes or otherwise.

>>32087697
how was chespin character building? we didn't learn or see anything new.

sure xy09 was good. it was also a plot episode. nobody said that plot and world/character building are mutually exclusive. but that doesn't mean episodes with less plot and more building are bad. nor does it mean fillers do it. none of the actual fillers you listed qualify in the same terms as the family episodes.

>>32087732
I can't comprehend why people complain about filler endlessly at this point. Every saga of the anime has to last 3-4 years, of course there's going to be fillers. Nowadays you can simply skip or not watch filler if you don't want to bother with it. It's not like when we were all kids watching Johto on TV and had to watch every filler because nothing else was on.

Wait do people genuinely think DP was good?

>>32087758
Stop trolling.

>>32087622
>filler
Why the people think that in an anime like Pokémon the word filler make sense?? Where is the manga on which the series is based?

>>32087758
DP, along with XY and Kanto, are usually considered as the three best Pokemon anime series.

>>32087758

Nah, just Scott and some random guy
Ignore them

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What are Mallow and Steenee looking at here, /padt/?

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>>32087352
Next week will be collecting every egg we've seen thus far to combine their powers to save Vivit. They should be able to get 22 minutes out of that. The following episode will be the final episode before the new season, so that will probably be finding a way to make Vibit a God, or finding another way to make her father take her, and her farewell.

>>32087781
>mfw Nikori gets more screentime
I hope it gets eaten by a snake in the Amazon

>>32087709
People actually like Mallow and Lillie's interactions and liked the fact that there's Lusamine and Gladion coming down the road. The problem was the Lusamine stuff was a 30-second moment in the episode where we're basically spoon fed "Yeah, by the way, Lillie's comic relief gag is actually important, sorry guys", and Lillie ends up becoming a trainer because...??? Like, what does she plan to do now she's a trainer? Even Serena leaving home to get her first Pokemon and reunite with Ash was more interesting than that, plus at least the writers added lines in those early episodes that signaled to us "okay, she doesn't know yet what her goal is, but look out for it because you know it's coming."

Anyways, if that's the only example you can think of, you're in a tough spot.

>>32087747
>we didn't learn or see anything new
Rewatch the fucking the episode, you git. Jesus Christ, I'm arguing with idiots.

>none of the actual fillers you listed qualify in the same terms as the family episodes.
Because..."reasons" (aka "I said so".

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>>32087352
>>32087391
>>32087781

Not pokemon related. lol
Post pokemon related pics.

>>32087780
My dick

>>32087777
Anyone who doesn't like the better parts of DP is either borderline trolling or doesn't want the anime to be good. I can understand not liking the pacing, Brock, or some other aspects, but the bulk of it still did things no other anime saga did as well.

>>32087796
No offense Scott, but even though you're right, you're not in any position to be accusing other people of trolling.

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>>32087666
Bffs who love to abuse Rowlet when

>all episodes are fillers meme
If sm 18 is filler then you can say that dance ep was filler or goomy evolution.

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>>32087747
>i didn't actually watch the episode: the post

>>32087769
Filling time & episodes in order to space out the "main" plot that's been written. It's a valid term in this context.

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>>32087780
My dick

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>>32087833

Best Pokémon Anime:
XY/XY&Z > DP > AG > OS > SM > BW

>>32087817
Nobody's saying that every SM episode was filler, genius. Just that the seven or eight ones that mostly are or definitely are fillers shouldn't be euphemized with the "character/world-building episodes" term.

>>32087833
Dumb frogposter.

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>>32087790
the fuck did we learn other than chespin has overgrow? we knew clemont was a bitch sometimes.

i explained the reasons to you. we didn't learn anything we don't already know. that's not character building on the level of the family eps.

>>32087776
Yes, and are people in the world who eat his shit, that means nothing my friend.
Probably the most of the people in /vp/ began to see the anime when DP was in transmition, the nostalgia is a heavy factor in the opinions. Also Dp was a mistake.

>>32087758
At the very least, it was better than the shitfest known as XY&Z.

>>32087866
Smoking.
Fuck off cancerous person.

>>32087881
Please tell me you're joking. Most of the people who like DP are people who started watching during the OS.

>>32087886
You better be joking too. XYZ had amazing episodes.

>>32087893
The cigarette isn't the part I'm interested in.

>>32087780
Sophocles fat mom

>>32087896
It would've been amazing if Serena was written out of it.

>>32087912
are we trying to give Skot an aneurysm here

>>32087896
Learn to recognize bait, Scott.

>>32087850
ANON!

WTF is with all these anti-DP and XY people here? DP people hate on XY, and XY people hate on DP.

The fuck is wrong with you people? Both sagas have plenty of great episodes and so some things a little better or worse than the other. We've seen sagas where the anime was truly poor or lackluster, and you guys criticize the two best ones?

Jesus Christ. Go back and watch your Johto fillers from 2001 if you criticize DP and XY. Have fun.

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>>32087879
>we didn't learn anything we didn't already know
>yet he admits we learned something new
>but it doesn't count anyway

>>32087936
xy didn't do anything better than dp besides animation.

it had the same level of pacing issues just on the opposite side of the spectrum.

>>32087936
Are you genuinely retarded or just pretending to be for (you)s?

>>32087936
Half of them are trolls trying trying to trigger you Scott because of how much of a shitposting troll you yourself are, the other half just have shitty taste.

>>32087936
sure thing Spud

>>32087951
Skip's always gone for the latter

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>>32087790
How is that a tough spot? I gave perfect examples about how Lillie's episode expanded on her life. That episode was about her and the egg, not her and Lusamine, or her and Gladion. The stuff you learn about her family in that episode is extremely minor but speaks volumes about her. It doesn't spoonfeed you, you have to see everything for yourself. Lillie being alone in that giant mansion, her mother, father, and brother don't live with her, the episode isn't made to make you think about those things. It's a passing moment that gets overshadowed by the events with the egg.

The Mallow and Kaki episodes are different then Lillies at the mansion because they focus on the families where they introduce new characters who have effected the main cast, not about the egg which was the focus of her episode.

Lillie, Lana, and Sophocles haven't had their version of that episode yet.

Lillie's is coming that's obvious to anyone with a brain, Sophocles gets one next week so we'll see how that goes, Lana will likely get one in the future once her trial episodes start taking place.

A lot of the smaller details about characters happens in the background and doesn't get noticed because it's not a big thing, it's up to the watcher to figure these things out.

Lana for example takes care of her little sisters which makes her protective of them, we see that side of her shown when it comes to Ashimari and how she goes into her yandere mode. I wouldn't doubt we get an episode in the future where her sisters get lost/taken by Team Rocket and we see Lana act similar to how she was in the Litten/Rowlet/Ashimari episode.

>>32087943
what does overgrow add to chespin's character? i'm pretty sure we never even see it again, though i dont remember the other chespin fillers too well.

>>32087954
>shitty taste
Well, another dp fan who think that all the people need to love his overrated saga.
Anon...

>>32087962
>once her trial episodes start taking place

Why is Lily so much better than Lilie?

>>32087936
But DP is full of fillers.

>>32087993
What are you complaining about then?

>>32087267
>>>/wsg/1593180

>>32088014
DP doesn't have that many pure fillers, and what it does is only in certain parts. Some of its fillers like Mismagius episode, the evil Togepi ep, and some of the fun travel fillers were pretty good.

>>32087962
>Sophocles gets one next week so we'll see how that goes
Hah, barely. It will be Ash battling Hiroki and Top Kek most of the time.

>Lillie being alone in that giant mansion, her mother, father, and brother don't live with her
She's not "alone." She has a butler, at least a maid or two, and a bunch of staffers there.

>It's a passing moment that gets overshadowed by the events with the egg.
And that's not exactly a good thing when the most interesting part of the whole episode is just a "passing moment," anon.

>new characters who have effected the main cast
Affected them...how? Besides existing? All I can think of is Kiawe's grandpa, and that was just a flashback that could have happened any other time.

>Lillie, Lana, and Sophocles haven't had their version of that episode yet.
Yet we're almost 20 episodes into the series. That's also pretty fucking bad, especially considering each of them has already had a "character focus/intro" episode that got lackluster reception here.

>Lana for example takes care of her little sisters which makes her protective of them
Which matters...why?

>I wouldn't doubt we get an episode in the future where her sisters get lost/taken by Team Rocket
Which is basically the plot of like 25% of the anime's filler episodes: TR kidnaps the Pokemon or does something else to a COTD. Again, why should I care about her sisters? Their moment in SM05 was cute, but most people here quickly forgot about it.

>>32087993
I'm not a DPfag, though, anon... I grew up as an AG fan (English dub, sadly) and later became an XY fan. A lot of DP I still haven't fucking watched, because so much of it isn't subbed yet and it apparently has a godawful dub thanks to TPCi.

>>32088050
>she's not alone
holy pedantic batman. she's without her family, that's the point.

wow, they didn't unload her entire fucking plot on you immediately, starting small with her phobia and the egg and alluding to future events. what terrible writing.

>>32088050
Anon, i can smell your injustified hate to the SM saga, you can rewatch Dp or Xy.

>>32088086
>AG fan.
I need to apologize, sorry then.

>>32088130
You better be joking as well. I'll defend the better parts of AG as much as DP or XY for obvious reasons.

>>32088134
don't be upset Slav

>>32088100
>implying I fully watched DP

>>32088099
Okay, and? There's nothing in the episode that gives us any reason to think that that situation truly bothers her or affects her everyday functioning.

>wow, they didn't unload her entire fucking plot on you immediately, starting small with her phobia and the egg and alluding to future events. what terrible writing
The phobia wasn't even plot for the first eight episodes, it was comic relief.

Nobody is saying "give me their whole fucking plot on a platter right now," but so far the plot stuff we do have is either uninteresting as shit or way, way too thin. Only the Island Challenge genuinely intrigues me, and even then I don't know what he'll do once he completes it. There may be a league tournament that's created just the Elite Four/league are created later in the games, but we'll see.

The Top Kek stuff would interest me more if there were any real stakes involved. Top Kek has "chosen" Ash for whatever reason, but I still don't see to what end. Just for the hell of it?

>>32088050
>you want the the entirety of all the characters backgrounds in 20 minutes
It's not even worth discussing this with you if you can't use your brain to understand how story telling works.

SM has 3-4 years before it ends, you're asking for the whole plot to be given to us before the first season ends.

That's not how long running anime go anon.

Even if all of DP isn't subbed can't you still watch all of DP raw? I mean outside of a few plot heavy episodes, it's pretty easy to enjoy the anime even without knowing what the characters are saying

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>mfw SMfags/BWfags will always be butthurt as their series are perennially counted among the lowest rated of Pokemon series

>>32087780
Me cuddleraping Lana

>>32088099
>alluding to future events
Which involve her mother and brother. If we have to rely on her mom and brother appearing in year 2 or 3 to bail out her whole character, then a lot of people will give up on her pretty quickly. What importance has her apparent "loneliness" played since then, anon? It might as well just be another character footnote.

The egg part is pretty much disconnected from that, since it was basically "girl gets Pokemon from an egg," with the phobia only influencing it insofar as Lillie is able to touch it and now Vulpix (and now she is because twice already in 18 episodes we've had her "maternal instinct" kick in).

>>32088164
I'm not asking for the whole damn thing. I'm asking for better sense of direction and more reason to give a shit. We didn't get the whole plot dumped on us early in the previous seasons, but we did get a better sense of direction and a much more coherent character trajectories overall.

>>32088154
something can be comedic with serious undertones. it was obviously a real character aspect.
>affects her everyday functioning
nigger where the fuck do you think her phobia comes from? jesus christ. her family being absent along with that is alluding to some traumatic past involving them. do you need everything spelled out to you verbatim? i was joking that you should just skip the show and read plot summaries, but now it actually seems to suit you.

>Top Kek has "chosen" Ash for whatever reason, but I still don't see to what end. Just for the hell of it?
have you even played the games? that's literally what he does. he picks a trainer he thinks is strong to make them a worthy challenger. he fights for its own sake. like goku.

there's nothing wrong with the slow approach when individual episodes are entertaining. and they can be so without shoving the plot forward constantly.

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>>32086595
>Abareru-kun and the Others Get Turned Into Past Shokotans
no we can only deal with one Crazy Aunt Shoko at a time

>>32088170
>watching DP

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>>32088154
>a plot point is used as comedic relief
It's still a plot point you idiot. It's used as a gag, but the point still stands that Lillie fears Pokemon for some reason. Just because it's not talked about every single episode doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

Your asking for Team Flare level stuff within the first 20 episodes. Our first and only look at Team Flare we had at that point in time was the Mega Special around episode 20. The fact that Team Skull has appeared, Aether is being alluded to in the first 10 episodes of SM completely blows that out of the water.

Your probably an XY baby who is used to the fast pace of the series after showing up around the time XYZ began airing. Do research for yourself on these things, compare the "plot" centric episodes with past sagas to see just how much screentime it gets at the start.

It's not a lot. the deep character development doesn't start for a long period either. It's been like that for every single saga.

XY has a minor exception due to Ash and Serena's relationship, but after the first 7 episodes which was essentially a small arc of it's own.

>>32088216
Ash wants to do the trials and earn Z-Crystals. He wants to fight and beat Tapu Koko. He wants to go to school. It's should be fucking obvious what it is Ash is looking to do in Alola.

Mallow wants to run the #1 resturant in Alola.

Kaki wants to be the strongest fire Pokemon user in Alola.

Lana wants to travel the sea in Ashimari's balloon and capture Kyogre.

Lillie wants to be able to touch Pokemon without fear.

Sophocles wants to invent shit I believe.

You need to realize that SM is not like past gens where we've had 4 companions max to a group, with 1 of those not serving any real purpose. SM has 6 protagonists, and a fuck ton of recurring characters. We're only 18 episodes in, giving them all shared and equal screentime barely amounts to 3 episodes each which they don't even get since Ash has gotten multiple focus episodes.

>>32088256
Is this real? There's underboob there.

>>32088256
Horny shit, is she the ancestor of Olivia?

>>32088256
those are her bounsweets

>>32088196
>appearing in year 2 or 3
they appeared much earlier in the games. and her plot can move without them appearing in the flesh. the picture is just a reference to something that can be developed in numerous ways, not just them physically appearing. you have a real knack for taking shit at face value and then spewing conjecture with it.

we don't absolutely know that she feels lonely, it hasn't been explicitly talked about, we're just inferring because that's what you do when the story doesn't reveal everything immediately. the egg part is directly connected to the phobia which is connected to the family past.

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>>32088231
You're getting four and you're gonna like it.

>>32088226
>nigger where the fuck do you think her phobia comes from? jesus christ. her family being absent along with that is alluding to some traumatic past involving them
How do you know that? How do you know Lusamine wasn't with Lillie until relatively recently? You don't. There is a traumatic past, sure, but you can't say with any level of certainty that that's exactly why Lusamine and Gladion are both off doing their own things, and it certainly doesn't mean Lillie feels "lonely."

>you even played the games? that's literally what he does. he picks a trainer he thinks is strong to make them a worthy challenger. he fights for its own sake. like goku.
I am playing them and I know about all that. Thing is, when I'm playing a game, that's all well and good. But when I'm watching something that's happening to someone else on screen...I need more reason to care than that. Most people here likely feel similarly. I don't dislike the Top Kek stuff at all, I actually do like it, but it doesn't really give me much to be excited about.

Maybe the writers will surprise us later on with an amazing Aether arc, that's totally true. But a basic aspect of writing a TV series, especially in this day and age where people have dozens of shows to choose from, is giving viewers a really good hook. Something that will make the viewer think "Ohhhh, so THIS is why I should stick around for the whole series, because this is where we're headed." Right now, SM's writers haven't delivered on that hook. Hence the relative inactivity you're seeing on social media, on forums, fansites versus in previous seasons.

>>32088178
Fuck off unless you have something intelligent to say.

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>>32088246
>Not watching every series

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>>32088274
OLM's getting braver

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>>32088302
>getting

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>>32088283
are they all gonna take turns eating Shoko's pussy

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God this is bringing back memories when girls had huge tits on the show.

>>32088324
Fuck off Scott

>>32088290
>How do you know that?
we don't "know" that, we're inferring that based on the evidence. just like we inferred from the mega specials that team flare was up to some apocalyptic shit, largely based on the games. did you bitch back then too?

>stick around for the whole series
xy's approach was baiting you into thinking it was building up to something so you thought it was worth putting up with all the garbage. sm's approach is making each episode generally entertaining, with some bigger plots down the line. you don't need a promise of something to keep watching it.

>>32088290
>Hence the relative inactivity you're seeing on social media, on forums, fansites versus in previous seasons.
That's because the people are pretty comfort with the games, anime and other things, when the people are inconform the sand get up and the forums are completely full of kids crying.

>>32088345
>xy's approach was baiting you into thinking it was building up to something so you thought it was worth putting up with all the garbage

There was no garbage to put up with in XY though. It had the fewest bad fillers compared to past sagas as well.

>>32088365
>inconform
Non-conform fucking spanish influence

>>32088369
xy had a ton of garbage including plot episodes. half the gym battles were lackluster too, if you weren't entranced by ugly cgi beams and glowing limbs bursting into smoke.

this goes back to my point about xy's main appeal being its battles, but they were mostly flash without substance compared to earlier sagas. and the vast majority were against TR.

>>32088280
>the egg part is directly connected to the phobia
No, it's not. Replace the egg with literally anything else that isn't an egg, and what would you have? The egg isn't the cause of the phobia, it's not the root of the phobia. It exists for its own sake while being used as an ancillary device as Lillie starts getting over her fear.

>Mallow wants to run the #1 resturant in Alola...Sophocles wants to invent shit I believe.
Two of those goals have nothing to do with Pokemon in and of themselves, and I'm having a hard time thinking why I should care about most of the others. How do you stretch out "goals" like that over a three year series while making it interesting? Also fat fuck just makes computer programs, he doesn't really invent.

>SM is not like past gens where we've had 4 companions max to a group, with 1 of those not serving any real purpose.
Yeah, one character tends to get short shrift, so let's fix that by adding a few more and giving most of them goals that don't serve any important at all.

>It's still a plot point you idiot. It's used as a gag, but the point still stands that Lillie fears Pokemon for some reason.
Did you even read the post? Try reading it again, because I explicitly said it was a plot point (just that it wasn't officially so until SM08).

>Your asking for Team Flare level stuff within the first 20 episodes.
No, I'm not. Where did I say anything about Team Skull, about having Lusamine show up in SM20 or having chaos break out across Alola? That's right, I didn't say any of that.

>Your probably an XY baby who is used to the fast pace of the series after showing up around the time XYZ began airing. Do research for yourself on these things, compare the "plot" centric episodes with past sagas to see just how much screentime it gets at the start.
I've watched this show since OS, buddy and have been here in these threads since the hype thread days. And I've watched most of the seasons since then.

>>32088390
I don't think this at all, XY generally had great Gyms and battles, not just the animation. All it's plot episodes were very good too, not going to debate about the tripokalon's if you don't care for them, but everything else was well done.

>>32088345
>we don't "know" that, we're inferring that based on the evidence.
What "evidence"? Have you considered that maybe she's kind of happy to not have her mom around? Your inference is based on nothing. It's pulled out of your ass.

>team flare...largely based on the games.
There's not really the same kind of game analog with Lillie because she's being treated much differently than in the games.

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music for the Kalos Crew

>Ash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udQ6G8eR5wE / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR6pxe8jaMs
>Serena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_kVaENf6Q / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj-VODFNeCU / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWpfHhoyDlg
>Clemont: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm-Y9idMMQ4
>Bonnie & Puni-chan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d28WQQaX8ig
>Collective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEH2ICPkLlU
>Ash/Serena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CB6lEmuTL0
>Alan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3KxPwoaXaM
>Manon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWAnVLbaWX8

>>32088392
>not the cause of something = not related to something
holy shit you are one stupid motherfucker. ancillary even means in support of the primary thing. yes, it's a plot device, but it directly plays into and demonstrates her character struggle, which is strongly implied to emerge from her past. it's connected.

>>32088365
>"That's because the people are pretty comfort with the games, anime and other things"
>he seriously believes this

>>32088409
Hi Scott

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Post Spiceshipping

>>32088476
Mallow is a lesbian and likes Lillie.

>>32088482
>>32088476
And Kiawe is gay and in love with Ash

>>32088461
It's connected in some sense, but people keep treating it as this special super important plot thing that is in and of itself part of the phobia just because it's an egg. It's not connected in the same way Lusamine presumably is. It's an indirect connection.

The Pokemon egg spiel has been done a bunch of times anyway, and this time the egg was seemingly included in order to shill the two Vulpix forms in a more interesting way than with, say, "filler episode that features the two Vulpix."

>>32088482
>>32088487
Shut up you fucking faggots, Spiceshipping is pure and hot!

>>32088434
>Have you considered that maybe she's kind of happy to not have her mom around?
yes, that's possible. but that would be unusual so it's not a common theory. more importantly though, that would still play into character building via family.

they fucking said verbatim that she could touch pokemon before but after some incident with her family she developed a phobia. it's fucking reasonable to assume that her past with her family is troubled. then again, they're not revealing it all immediately, they're working up to it you fucking sperg, take your goddamn ADHD meds.

>>32088476
Holy shit, those kiawe muscles and the masculine mallow, who drew this? Michelangelo?

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>>32088457
Extreme autism.

>>32088503
you mean like how every single fucking thing in pokemon is written to shill merchandise? do you really think that's relevant in the context?

the egg is the plot device that sets off her story. yes it is relatively minor because like i said they appear to be starting small and working upwards. that doesn't mean it's not relevant or connected.

>>32088504
You're the thirsty faggot for posting that drawing of Kiawe

>>32088507
>calling me an ADHD-med-taking sperg
How original. And duh they're not revealing it all immediately. The problem is they've revealed very little of it while not really having much else for Lillie's character to do besides hold on to her new Vulpix. If she had other stuff going for her, maybe this wouldn't be such an issue. But when there's nothing else to speak of besides her owning a Vulpix and becoming a trainer (with no clue or sense from the writers on what direction they could go with that), then deficiencies in other areas become a lot more glaring.

>>32088552
Is Yordel going to draw literally every fucking iteration/permutation of Serena possible before he dies?

>tfw new Nozomi lewd on Pixiv
>tfw it's a good one

>>32088600
>>>/h/

>>32088552
C U T E
U
T
E

>We could have gotten Event mons based on Ash companions and another Chronicles
>Instead we get PickAShoe hat edition and I choose you Remaster
>No Misty Togepi/Azurill
>No Brock Croagunk/Happiny
>No May Torchick
>No Dawn Piplup
>No Iris Axew
>No Cilan Stunfisk
>No Serena Fennekin
>No Clemont Chespin
>No Rato
>No Mao Bounsweet
>No Surien Popplio
>No Kaki Turtonator
>No Chris Chan Sonichu
>Not even Shit like Charizard or Sceptile
>NOT EVEN ASH GRENINJA
>BUT THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8

>>32088551
i'm calling it like i see it.

they didn't need to reveal any more of it since lillie had complete plots in both of her episodes without it. no, i don't know what she'll do in her next one, we'll just have to fucking wait and see, because that's how shows work. you're just complaining ahead of time, assuming that because it isn't the ad nauseum 8 badge quest, they're not building up to anything at all.

>>32088504
Kaki is Hoshi only.

>>32088702
Not him, but I don't think the issue is that we think there's nothing bigger planned for later on. The issue is how much hinting and other things the writers do to guide us along. It's been pretty sparse and scattershot so far, unfortunately. We really could've used a bit more.

>>32088561
Hopefully

>>32088649
can't post her outside /b/.

>>32088823
Why? If you can post Pokegirls on /h/, surely you can post her there?

>>32088841
She comes under loli.

>>32088853
Based on what? By that logic, half the Pokegirls should too.

>>32088870
That's shit quality.

I miss XY

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>>32088888
W A S T E D

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>>32088895

>>32088901
I wanna fug that Chespin desu

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>>32088888
WITNESSED

>>32088888
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>32088920

>>32088895
daily reminder that the pokemon anime will never be good again

>>32088900
he's right subhuman whiteknight of shit anime

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>>32088888
>25 years lead to this >>32088870
???

>>32088870
can you imagine having so little pride in your work that you fuck up meowth's already shitty looking eyes

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What did they mean by this?

>>32089016
P U F F Y

>>32089016
She likes olive/slate-colored shorts.

>>32089011
>25

>>32089016
"Sorry SM is so bad, have some sexy Mao to compensate."

>>32089204
Stop eating so much of Mallow's alolan stew and the problem should stop

>>32089204
>>32089244
Mami pls

>>32089287
>>32089260
>>32089204
>>32089244
Autism

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>>32088888

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>>32089436

>>32089492
Link?

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Find a flaw.

>>32089577
Do a search for "find a flaw". She's there.

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>>32089579
Not Eureka.

>>32089598
Nice

>>32086950
Speaks the manchildren
OLM fault for giving hints of development for Satoshi yet they will never abandon Satoshi & Pikachu as protagonists
TL;dR
Would be better if this was Sun/Moon protagonist instead of Satoshi

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>>32089612
>>32089601
>>32089598
>>32089579
>>32089577
>>32089492

Do people like SM now? I notice whenever an episode focuses on one of the girls or Kiawe people seem to enjoy it, as well as the TR eps or Ash capture eps.

Honestly out of all the episodes aired so far, more than half of them are good or decent. I only really hated Sophocles episode.

>>32089691
Fuck off, Scott.

>>32089691
.ttocS ,ffo kcuF

Be honest, if SM didn't follow XY and Ash had his old face it wouldn't get anywhere the amount of dislike it has now. Like imagine if SM came after BW instead, people wouldn't feel the same way towards it. The problem was following a serious shonen series like XY with Ash at his best with SM.

>>32089757
See >>32089734 and >>32089747.
Fuck off

ded

>>32089757
This anon is absolutely right. However, it'd still be disliked for being so slow and having nothing happening, so while it would be doing better, ti'd still have the same problems.

We want traveling and adventuring back, among other things.

>>32089944
>This anon

>let Abareru-kun be in an episode
>it's a Mamane episode

Why do they hare Abareru so much? What dud he do to them to warrant being in a Sofatcles episode?

>>32089970
They want to give people a reason to watch it.

>>32089016
flat

>>32090010
>not shaving

>>32090000
Then he should have been in a Suiren episode.

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>>32089944
Anon...

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What did they mean by this?

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>>32090064
I don't read moon, you tell me

>>32089477
>mexican ash 2
1?

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>>32090000
>>32088888
THIS THREAD IS AMAZING

>>32089598
Where?

>>32088552
Cute~

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>>32090115
This is the first iteration of it that I saved, another anon added the Mexican hat and maracas later

New bred:
>>32090195
>>32090195
>>32090195