Rock Smash now smashes stealth rock. How does the meta change?

Ghosts rise in usage to block both Rapid Spin and Rock Smash in one team slot.

>>32056167
If only removes SR with no other upside it's shit

People use Rock Smash.

>>32056167
Not a bad idea OP.

It doesnt change because rock smash is a terrible low bp move

>>32056167
actualy many more moves should affect eachother.
Why SURF isn't working as defog? Or even Whirlwind

>>32056179
so's rapid spin

>>32056179
>rapid spin is used despite being 20bp
>so clearly rock smash, with 40 bp, will never be used

>>32056167
rock smashers with serene grace, technician and scrappy rise in usage

>>32056167
>Rock Smash removes Stealth Rock
>Bulldoze romoves all hazards
what other moves could have the same effect?

>>32056216
And rock smash lowers defense, too.

>>32056258
earthquake :^)

>>32056258
Bulldoze might be a bit strong for that. 60 power and 100% chance to lower speed, making it a lot like having sticky web up on the opposing pokemon. Not to mention it has a rather large amount of distribution via TM. Maybe if it removed one layer of a hazard at random.

>>32056181
>Whirlwind working like defog
>Giving skarmory a free space for another move
>Letting skarmory phase you and remove hazards in one turn
Is a cool idea but it is very dangerous

>>32056296
60BP isn't anything anymore, nowadays you gotta run 120BP moves otherwise it's shit

>>32056173
>>32056179
>>32056389
>what is rapid spin?

>>32056389
Yes, but consider it for bulky support 'mons. Now you can have a Pokemon use a move that is about 2/3 the power of Earthquake, drops the opponent's speed by one stage, and gets rid of all hazards. Also, it's learned by things like Landorus, Ferrothorn, Heatran, Gliscor, Blissey, and many more, quite a few of which also get STAB off of it.

>>32056167
So, you'd still need Rapid Spin/Defog for Spikes/Toxic Spikes/Sticky Web? If that's the case, things won't change much, i guess.

>>32056586
good

Rock Smash now does 4x damage to Rock types. How does this change the meta

>>32056597
>Lando-T getting more usage
>good

How do we make thevery other HM's worthwhile? Cut with a high crit and flinch rate? Strength with a chance of switching out the opponent?

>>32056636
Lando is already on top of possible any usage

>>32056628
Sky Uppercut now does 2x damage to Flying types. How does this change the meta

>>32056647
Strength is now Rock-type
Cut is now a 60 BP Steel-type move that always crits

>>32056694
>Cut is now a 60 BP Steel-type move that always crits
I like it. It'd certainly give some fairies a bit of trouble with a hell of a lot more mons.

>>32056653
I was going to say adding more usage would be bad, but if it got just a bit more, it might get sent to Ubers, if I understand the usage stats right.

>>32056694
>Cut is now a 60 BP Steel-type move that always crits
Kartana is now Ubers, good job.

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>>32056750
so then it'll be my chance to shine again AHAHAH FUCK YOU CANCER TIGER

>>32056750
Sadly that's not how it works. It can be at 99% usage but won't get banned because people will always argue that it's healthy for the meta and not broken at all.

>>32056167
Technician Breloom with rock smash now becomes A rank

>>32056770
And Gliscor could make use of Bulldoze in the same way, too, while still being able to Poison Heal.

>>32056803
Damn. I thought it was 50% usage automatically bumped it up a tier? Or does it work different between OU and Ubers?
Or is this just everyone who plays OU being faggots?

>>32056823
Only if it's not OU already. Ubers is a banlist, not an usage based tier.

>>32056885
Damn. I'd have thought they'd have reworked the criteria for Ubers since AG is the new banlist.
Blaziken for OU when?

>>32056439
A move that removes all hazards.
In OP's situation, rock smash would only remove stealth rock, which isn't that useful on some teams