PKSM

>>32052380
I stopped using Bank for this exact reason. It's a huge quality of life improvement.

>>32052380
I never even got Bank desu.

can you use it to transfer Gen1-6 mon from Sun/Moon to ORAS?

>>32052604
I believe so

>>32052604
Yes

>>32052611
>>32052622
Unbelievable. How were GameFreak not able to manage this?

>>32052748
laziness, there is no other reason

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>>32052748
I wonder why?

>>32052611
>>32052622
Isn't there some weird extra data that Sun/Moon slap on that makes it incompatible or were they really that lazy and incompetent?

>>32052908
It's actually a flag stored in bank that says the Pokemon has been to gen 7 and can't be returned. You can extract from sun and moon and inject into gen 6 without any issues for the most cases (and if the Pokemon existed).

is there bank support for gen 4 or 5 yet?

>>32052604
Yep.

>>32052950
can you make a copy of a S/M pokemon and just inject it into gen6 games? So avoid deleting the original basically.

also has anyone tried it with + marked pokemon? I've got a furfrou I bred in moon I'd like to move / copy.

>/vp/ can't pay 5$ A FUCKING YEAR

>>32054609
well /vp/ is mostly neets

>>32054609
This.
I'm not going to get my shit banned by using Bank the proper way.

>>32054609
I have bank, I'm pissed I can't send pokemon back so fuck em

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>>32054618

And a bunch of poor people who like to cut corners and have to think that everything Game Freak does is wrong yet they'll find a way to get their games anyway. /vp/'s faggotry amazes me sometimes.

>>32054609
>>32054642


>Paying 5 dollars a year.

Select Pokebank.

Wait for it to load, oops. Gotta update to the newest firmware to use it.

Update to Pokebank. Hope you already have hax or it's back to homebrew for you.

Finally updated and ready to store some mons.

Oops the service is down for maintainence.

or

Oops campus wifi, gotta log in but can't on 3ds browser.

>Having to be online at all.

It could have easily been a standalone app that you bought for 5, hell even $10 as a one time fee then that's it.

You're at the whim of GF and their servers and it's unnecessary.

Fell for the subscription meme already. It's unnecessarily tedious and even then 100 boxes is a trivial limit, not that most would reach it.

PKSM you can have far more than 100 boxes and even swap out banks if you're a special brand of crazy.

Homebrew devs improving the game yet again where GF falls short.

>>32054752
>I don't have a stable internet
that's like your fault, retard
>cheating makes games easier
Wow who knew

Lol. just testing the spoiler tag on mobile

>>32054609
>>32054642
charging money for a previously free service is pretty shitty

>>32054799
>5$ a year

You can literally ask your mom for that.

>>32054799
When was it free?

>>32054828
Gens 3-5

>>32054815
i can afford it. i just hate that the transfer system was tacked on, and i can't use it without buying a year long subscription to something that is pointless to me. not to mention i'm only going to use said transfer system once or twice.

>>32054609
I look at as getting 5 free dollars a year just from not doing anything.

>>32054774

Stable internet isn't the problem. Having it be a necessity is.

Would you like an online-only Pokemon game?

If not then why make it a requirement for an accessory to the game?

Cheating makes the games more user friendly and better allocates the time you spend playing to actually playing.

>>32054840
I don't remember having an online based service for that, but what I do remember is having to have 2 consoles at once for a couple gens

>>32054909
>Would you like an online-only Pokemon game?
This is a nonargument
>If not then why make it a requirement for an accessory to the game?
For it's an accessory that requires internet. You're just being retarded here
>Cheating makes the games more user friendly
Wow who knew.

>>32052380
It doesn't do transfers from the Gen 1 Virtual Console games yet, does it?

>>32054968

It is a legitimate argument. You wouldn't accept it.

>For it's an accessory that requires internet.

We know this already. The point it why? They added extra hoops to something that didn't need it. This is legit criticism you pessimistic GF apologist.

>>32055026
maybe to prevent cheating?
It's almost like they only added hoops when in reality they removed more of them than added

>>32054609
Why would I pay $5 for something I can get for free?

>>32054609
>>32054642
Bank has already deleted all of my Pokémon before my subscription ended once, I'm not gonna let them do that again. You can't even get any help if that happens because "muh terms of service".

>>32055075

They added more hoops because they could. The existance of fan-made homebrew banks are proof of that. Even if you don't use the "hacking capabilities" it works great. PHBank was a much better offering than the official bank and offered a full detailed display of your Pokemon.

To prevent cheating huh? How did that turn out again?

Pokemon Bank by its mere existence did more to help cheating than anything else.

Instead of learning from fansites like Pokecheck about their own games and learn from the flaws of the past they added a shitty lock to allow hacks from gens 5-3 up.

Game editors have always existed in some form with Pokemon from the Gameshark to action replay to powersave. If they wanted to curb hacks then they'd focus their attention there.

Instead you can pick one up with your game at a gamestop and they're made to be easy to use.

Having an offline backup that you control makes perfect sense. Preventing cheating is impossible under their current model.

>>32055198
Is your post anything but nonarguments and repeating the same shit? Yeah homebrew is more ""user friendly"", like you've said a million times now.
Also
>you can't stop cheating here if there's cheating there as well
Not an argument. And how did that turn out? I don't see anybody editing the bank, so I'd say pretty well.

>>32055266

The bank will take literally anything. It is not a hack check at all.

>>32055322
It doesn't, though. A lot of my action replay'd shit was left behind in W2

>>32055339

That's because of Pokemontransporter, not the bank.

Transporter has a hack check and only for the most blatant of offenses

>>32055376
even then, I got a blatantly hacked Level 99 Shiny Starmie caught on Route 208 thanks to Action Replay through.
I also got an Alakazam caught at the Pokemon League through.

>>32054609
>using up all your good boi points
Neets don't have jobs anon, so the /vp rage is understandable

>>32055322
point was that the bank itself can't be used for hacking

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>>32054609
>can't pay $5 a fucking year
I mean, I literally can't. They literally won't take my money,

Not that I would give them it in the first place, of course.

>Anti-hack fags actually think people on /vp/ can't afford Bank
I mean, I know all of your posts are just bait, but this is just bad.

>>32055476

It being online is not a helpful function of that.

Actually Bank does and did help with "hacking" through duplicating save files and cloning Pokemon.

Had it actually have authentication through a server, which would be somewhat of a justification for being online, then cloning and hacked pokemon would not be allowed because it would detect it.

Again, the point wasn't the price. It's the fact that it's an online service when it could have and should have been a one time payment for an offline application. There is no justification other than money.

The fact that you can pay, once every year with no prepayment options is a joke.

For the gen 1 update they could have even milked it as an upgrade to the base price for the new functionality to be unlocked.

>>32055483
>banned for piracy
>whines about not being able to access a service he wasn't going to pay for

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>>32055539
This

>>32054609
Why pay for an inferior product? With an offline solution I can back up rigorously, too, which is quite useful especially if I come back to the game in the far future, or in the event of some kind of catastrophic failure either on my end or theirs that results in the loss of something dear to me.

>There are people on this board RIGHT NOW willing to pay GF to be cucked out of better options

>>32052748
FYI you can use https://pkxdelta.co.nf to backport any Pokemon between gens 7-3. Theoretically it also supports gens 1 and 2 however the output files didn't really work for me when using gens 1 and 2 saves on PKHeX. However, there's a Java program by the same guy who made this website, (also called PKX Delta,) which converts Pokemon back and forth between gens 1 and 3 fine.

Have this on my A9LH vs Bank and I'd choose bank literally ANYDAY as a VGC player. PKSM is pretty poorly coded (can't even edit TID or SID or reroll PID) also fucks with the legality of some mons. Just use pkhex and pay $5 a FUCKING year please.

>>32055621
Sorry, meant between gens 1-3.

>>32055601
Because it's legal! Deal with it!

>>32055646

>Bringing a hacked 3ds to an official competition.

PKSM is meant for minor edits (IV's/Evs/Nature), event injection and banking Pokemon. Outside of that you're always better off using PKHex.

>>32055376
Somehow my game sharked Suicune and Tyranitar made it easily though (even though Suicune is marked as a hoenn encounter)

>>32054774
Hey verlis,is that you?

Doesn't PKSM cause legality issues even just by banking/unbanking mons?

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>>32052748

>>32056101
I haven't had any legality problems.

>>32052748
ribbons

>>32055266
Do you even understand what a nonargument is? Or is this Critical Thinking 101 wanna-be edjumacated bullshit yet again shitting up this board.

No liking the argument =/= a nonargument

>>32052380
I used to use this until it created 5 bad eggs in my boxes just because. I had to delete them using PKHeX because they wouldn't show up in the app. Since then I just store my stuff in my computer as raw pk7 files.