Swampert's Sap Sipper raised its attack!
Wonder Guard
My bro has always been OU because I have great taste in bros.
>>32042467
>>32042467
>snorunt used ice shard
>>32042438
Levitate.
>>32042438
Remember back in gen 4 when people were talking about how overpowered Swampert would be if it got Damp?
>>32042498
delet this
>>32042500
That was back when Explosion was used on tons of Pokémon, especially on suicide leads and Magnezone.
Serene grace
>>32042545
Just give it Boomburst, it's enough
>>32042438pre-nerfGale Wings
>>32042438
>Vulpix used freeze-dry!
>>32042498
Patrician opinion: Cursed Body is better
>>32042627
>Ahh yes, you knocked out my Gengar in one hit, but there is a 30% chance you will have to pick a new move next turn.
not even sure there is an ability that would make him ou at this point, even huge power wouldn't do it due to his terrible movepool
maybe drizzle or arena trap could do it but even then...
>>32042659
Gengar got knocked out in out before it lost Levitate. Why can't low ladder scrubs understand this?
>>32042686
EQ is probably the most common coverage move and Gengar just went from immune to weak to it. How is that not a big hit?
>>32042686
*in one hit
>>32042438
>Grass moves
>In OU
Are you even trying? The most it'd do is stop a stray leech seed.
Can we just replace Magician with Magic Bounce or Magic Guard already?
>>32042709
It doesn't switch it on anything that runs EQ in the first place, except Hippowdon I guess.
Cursed Body makes it's SubSplit set even better, and it gives you a chance for hax against choice users which can come in handy sometimes.
>>32042557
talking about things that need boomburst
gamefreak pls?
>>32042438
>Fur Coat
>>32042754
How would that even work
>>32042523
That'd be great if there was a way for Sceptile to learn Draco Meteor
>>32042777
like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0
>>32042754
I understand why you want it, but how would it work?
Wonder Guard
>>32042467
Why even try that hard? Just give its preevo's ability and it would get banned from OU.
>>32042818
you are a motherfucker
>>32042728
I'd just be happy with Trace at this point, be like gardevoir's ghetto fox buddy.
>>32042627
Levitate is so vanilla, but EQ immunity is a huge deal.
>>32042863
Dugtrio would still be better tho.
>>32042438
Make it Alolan Marowak 2.0 by giving it an ability that deals with Fairy/Ice moves.
Close Combat
Well, maybe UU.
>>32042863
Sheer Force wouldn't be that good on it.
>>32042587
Drizzle would be pretty cool too, don't know if it would make it OU though
not even a new ability just give it recover
Tough Claws
Stakeout
Sand Stream
>>32042487
Same.
>>32042498
Give it a month and it won't even need that. It's already sitting above 3.41% usage in OU because it's literally the best offensive Ghost-type this side of Ubers and will continue to be the best offensive Ghost-type this side of Ubers for the foreseeable future, and the Tapus chased nearly all of the Dark-types out of the tier.
>>32042789
Contrary Leaf Storm is fine. It would be a direct upgrade to Serperior, boasting much better Speed and significantly more power even after factoring in held items.
Leaf Storm/Dragon Pulse/Focus Blast/Hidden Power Fire or Iron Tail would be the go-to set, though the last slot really doesn't matter because after a boost and SR damage you can destroy just about anything not named AV Magearna.
>Chansey
Loses without doing any lasting damage unless it's packing Thunder Wave
>Togekiss
Dies to two Leaf Storms if SR is down
>Sap Sipper Azumarill
I mean I guess but really nigga?
>>32042818
>It now has a weakness
You and the mong who squealed over your idiocy disgust me, it can't even accomplish what you're oohing and aaahing about
>>32044040
air balloon
Sheer Force
Fucking anything else
>>32044112
Alright then
>defeatist
>>32044112
>New ability that combines Zen Mode, Stall, Defeatist, and Truant
Huge Power (^:
What it really needs is leech seed. recover, and at least +20 HP. Still it has its niche.
I've thought about it a lot and the only ability I could see making it useful is Prankster for Spore + Leech Seed shenanigans. But Sleep Clause fucks that over
>>32044239
He'd still be better.
>>32043704
Would be outclassed by Gigalith, let alone Hippowdon or T-Tar. Sand Force and a few decent coverage moves are all it really needs to do well.
>>32044277
>Prankster spore with no sleep clause
I have seen hell
Stakeout.
>>32042438
Nasty Plot.
Ah shit, this guy needs some work done
>Ability-Fur Coat
>New Moves-Cosmic Power, Yawn
>Have him hold Eviolite
>Lanturn
Now gets Wish, +10 in both defenses and +20 Special Attack.
give it magic bounceand also give it more reliable recovery than pain split and higher base HP for extra stall cancer:^)
>>32042733
If you don't make plays you don't. Gengar's Immunity to 3 types and 4x resistances is what made it a great glass cannon. It's Gengar's bread and butter. Without it, it's significantly worse than most other glass cannons like Alakazam.
>>32043257
>Contrary Close Combat
Well that's a niche that would be fun to play with. Even more so on a mon with good recovery.
>>32043704
Fuck that. Sand alone has few offensive benefits and Lycanroc-Midday is too frail to capitalize on the defensive perks.
>well then anon if you're so smart, you fix it
I would make it Rock/Ground instead.
Hear me out on this one.
First of all, Rock/Ground is one of the best offensive STAB combinations in the game. There are 802 Pokemon right now, and EdgeQuake alone hits over 790 of them neutrally or better. The only reason why none of the existing Rock/Ground-types are offensive hotshots is that they're all slow as shit. Dayroc does not have that problem. Secondly, Lycanroc wasn't going to survive a Super-Effective hit of any kind anyway, so the defensive flaws of Rock/Ground really don't matter. In fact, it's actually better off defensively because it takes less damage coming in from Stealth Rock and it has an immunity to abuse.
>>32042438
Give it Huge Power I guess. Anything's better than Unburden.
What if he is already? Should I do another one I like?
>>32045167
Unburden is actually a pretty good ability, it's just that Sceptile's is unable to take advantage of it. Personally, I think a Special Moxie could work well on Sceptile. Just give it Nasty Plot or something and watch it turn into a ghetto Salamence.
>>32045318
Personally I'd go for Grassy Surge. We'll need setters other than Bulu, it fits Sceptile's fluff, it works with physical and special variants, and it helps him when he Mega Evolves too.
Huge Power? I really dunno 2bh
Give Flygon tinted lens, the legendary birds magic guard, and the regi trio Regenerator.
>>32042728
Give it "Sorcerer" as an ability.
Said ability is a brand-new one that gives effective STAB to all non-stab moves and now Delphox learns one 80-90 BP special move for each type.
Energy Ball, Flash Cannon, Power Gem, Aura Sphere, Earth Power, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Scald, Tri-Attack, Dark Pulse, Air Slash, Sludge Wave, Signal Beam and Dragon Pulse all can be learned by it now.
>>32042438
Mega audino gets regenerator!
Blissey vs Audino GAS THE EGGS RACE WAR
Give Electivire galvanize so it can have a decent physical stab move. doesnt take it to OU but better than Vital Spirit at least.
>>32045604
Sweet everloving fuck.
>>32045520
on one hand that seems absolutely insane, but on the other it's slow as fuck, not that bulky and x4 weak to fairy
Gamefreak you fucks buffed the wrong stat
This guys special movepool is disgustingly huge and sheer force makes it usable with his mediocre SpA stat but it doesn't hit strong enough. Buffing speed instead would've been much better too.
Give it Huge Power.
Also should learn Thousand Arrows, High Jump Kick, Spectral Thief, Shadow Sneak, Shadow Force, Dragon's Ascent, and V-Create.
Also Spirit Shackle now traps the opponent for 5 turns and will stay trapped even if Decidueye switches out.
I'd just buff toxic boost
Make it a 100% increase?
Make it also increase speed by 50%?
Add some other effect like it's STAB moves get increased priority? Or something else worth the toxic killing him
>>32046079
toxic already gives him a spammable 140bp stab in facade on top of the damage boost, he just needs better speed
I'd give Flygon Mold Breaker. That'd patch up some of its shortcomings and make it a bit more relevant in OU.
... Or would that just be an inferior Excadrill?
>>32046139
explain to me what abilities in OU prevent flygon from doing what he does, ie being a shittier garchomp
>>32046136
It's still a shittier Guts
>Lightning rod
>>32046145
Mold Breaker Stealth Rock + Roost for Stall teams. Earthquake for Levitate mons, etc.
>>32044040
>what is air balloon
allow it to keep flash fire with it's mega
>>32044051
>>32046322
At this point, who cares about Eelektross, any pure electric type can achieve the exact same effect.
>>32046384
>slow
>frail
>mixed attacker
>>32046384
Well, OP did say "favorite pokemon".
>>32044248
And Emergency Exit of course
>>32045940
This logic makes probably three or four other fighting types (alone) eligible for Huge Power
>>32043160
>Steel Body
>The Pokemon with this ability now gains all the benefits that the Steel typing would normally confer.
Basically gains Steel resists and STAB without the weaknesses, an improved and what Steelworker should've been.
>Resists Fairy
>Neutral to Ice
>Neutral to grass
>4x resist bug
>4x resist Rock
>Gains 3rd STAB
>Resist Steel
>Immune to Poison
>Keeps immunity to Normal, Fighting and Electric
>Only 2x weak to Water, Ghost and Dark.
>>32045157
One slight problem.
Lycanroc doesn't learn ANY Ground attacks, like it's one of the only Rock types out there that for some reason can't learn any form of Ground attack.
Not even fucking Dig. It's a wolf/dog which can't fucking dig.
>>32045981
>Learn Thousand Arrows
Somehow I'm okay with that -only that.
Fits the Archer theme and trapper set-up. Also Ground coverage for days.
>tfw no alolan sudowoodo
>>32046330
Either that or have solar power not drain your HP at the end of the turn.
>>32043340
worked for peliper
>>32045277
Float : immune to entry hazards
>>32046868
don't worry we'll get one for the next region
>>32046330
Sheer force would also work pretty well on it and not be out of the realm of imagination. Why is a helldog powered by the sun?
>>32046900
That's true.
>Silvally
Memories can now be combined out of battle to make Silvally (and Multi-Attack) dual typed. Memories now also give moves of their type a 1.2x boost on top of STAB, although this boost is only calculated once for a dual typed Multi-Attack. Also it gets Recover, Calm Mind, Bulk Up, and Cosmic Power now. I know that's not the point of this thread, but really, it needs those so it can fill literally any role - currently, all it's good for is various attacking roles and Z-Parting Shot.
>>32046797
I mean I was assuming that it'd get some Ground STABs out of this deal. Unless I missed something, every fully-evolved Ground-type gets Earthquake. Even Wormadam-Sandy. Only Ground-type I can think of that DOESN'T learn Earthquake is Nincada for reasons that should be obvious.
>>32046917
>>32046868
>ANYONE wanting johto shitmons
lol
Unaware is basically what gives it its niche, but if I had to think of anything else for it, maybe Regenerator?
>>32042438
>Corrosion
>Prankster
>Arena Trap
>Magic Guard/Bounce
>Harvest
>Unaware
>Simple (+Baton Pass)
>Shields Down+ Extremespeed
If custom abilities are allowed:
>Berry Gather: Gains a random usable Berry any turn it doesn't have one. Also gets Natural Gift.
>Split Guard: Whenever Shuckle gets hit, performs a single-stat Power Split on the attacker
And just for completion's sake, some useful moves:
>Baton Pass
>Speed Swap
>Pain Split
>Leech Seed
>Recycle
>(Toxic) Spikes
>Magic Guard
>Recover/Slack Off
>>32042438
I am not sure a new ability would be enought at least not a non broken ability like Protean, WG or Speed Boost but I guess that Drought would make sense?
>>32042438
>Speed Boost
Suck it Blaziken.
>>32045954
why the fuck does it get Confusion
>>32042728
>>32045604
If original abilities are allowed, why not change the Magician ability so that instead of stealing items, it auto-sets Magic Room while making the user immune to Magic Room?
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Magic_Room_(move)
That way it still messes with items to respect Hoopa's lore, but the user can hold an item and won't steal something harmful.
>>32042438
Give it explosion and we're golden
>>32049414
Being immune to taunt would be very nice
>>32044239
Would be way better than slow start. With Regigiga's defenses and few weaknesses it'd wouldn't be too easy to take it down to half HP. Shame about the no recovery but still better than slow start
>>32051809
Just make Magician an integrated Knock Off, damage buff included
>>32042717
>Having literally zero weaknesses.
I'm sure that wouldn't be OP
>>32053203
Still weak to Freeze Dry :^)
Besides, people only complain about Eelektross because of how terrible and ineffective it is. Swampert is obviously much better than Eelektross, but a fucking Grass weakness isn't what's keeping it in the throes of mediocrity.
Sceptile:
>Huge Powers
or
>Dragon Dance and sheer force
>>32042662
Electric Surge
>>32042438
Retcon Mega Launcher like Gengar's levitate.
Give Mega Blastoise a Sp.Atk equivalent of Huge Power to compliment its design.
>>32044421
>>32045167
>>32045397
>>32053359
This kinda takes away a Signature move from another 'mon, but I say just give Sceptile Electrify. He'll use that, Lightningrod will take effect, and boom. Eventually he'll be topped out.
Only real threats are Pherosma, Ninjask, Mega Aerodactyl, and Ice Shard. Maybe Mega Alakazam.too
Just give it Moonblast and maybe Ice Beam.
>>32053542
That would be fucking rad, but I'd settle for Blastoise just getting Origin Pulse which already works with Mega Launcher. Having essentially a base 165 STAB move with 85% accuracy would be really nice.
>>32046079
top tier bro here toxic boost is just a much worst guts and all it needs is speed bonus to make it at at least UU it already has stab quick attack
Head Smash now has 100% acc
New ability Reckless
252+ Atk Choice Band Reckless Tyrantrum Head Smash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Deoxys-Defense: 237-279 (78.2 - 92%)
More Blood for the Blood God
>>32053542
>>32054344
Origin Pulse + Shell Smash would make Mega Blastoise top tier.