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How would you make the Pokemon franchise great again?

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How would you make the Pokemon franchise great again?
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Not localise the games anymore.
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>>32034930

Difficulty toggle at the start of the game.
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Make an anime with the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series. Three eps weren't enough.
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>Minimum of 80 new Pokemon, 20 new variants, and 5-10 Megas at the start of every gen.
>Give it a good plot, and you're the star
>Cutscenes can be skipped
>Customization, including being able to wear old protags' outfits
>A character that can change a Pokemon's Nature, so if you found a shiny in the wild you won't have to worry about it having a shitty nature
>Refresh now has its old minigames, along with new ones
>Vampires. Kids love vampires
>Fusion
>The ability to summon demons
>The plot branches off into different routes, including one where you can destroy the world
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Make it more sandbox. None of this "go down this path and then this path". Restricting areas via HM moves was a good idea.

Also an optional hard mode is long overdue.
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Pokemon was never great.
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>>32034930
Honestly? Get Pokemon GO right.

As it was, they released a half-assed piece of shit, that still managed to put Pokemon back in the public consciousness for months, and resulted in greatly increased sales of the next main series game. If they'd actually been competent, it could have had a more lasting effect that would have put Pokemon back at the level of popularity and influence that it had in the late '90s. If that's what you mean by "great," that's how to do it.
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>>32034960
this is bait right?
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>>32034930
Try to emulate the old art style that was inspired by Toriyama.
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>>32034977
I really don't think they could've, honestly. People now move on far more quickly from trends nowadays than before, especially considering the people who play it don't give a damn about Pokemon anymore/never gave a damn about pokemon, so once the novelty of the app wears off, they'll just quit it. It's just like all the soccer moms that got themselves Wiis and left them to rot after playing Wiifit for a bit.
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>>32034960
This post is definitely bait but I really wouldn't mind SMT Pokemon crossover
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A game design like GSC, difficulty, puzzles, a good region with a lot of exploration, a good content of things to do after and pre league, more interesting characters like BW, and a good plot that doesn't seem shoved down your throat. All of this with a good OST and some good pokémon, better if more than an hundred., and with a good select pool with a balance between new and old pokémon, like the bw2 one and unlike the alola one.
So basically HGSS with BW2 content and characters.
Ggimmicks doesn't fucking need to be in every game, I wouldn't put in any if it was for me.

>>32034966
Fucking this also.
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Give me back the slots and add more casino games.
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>Get rid of .pk7 Pokemon and use an entirely different filetype for new games.
>Have Nintendo litigate the shit out of anyone attempting to develop a PKHeX for future games.

And done.
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>>32034993
Not really. The latter parts are a joke. I'm not fishing for (You)'s, just making a joke.
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Removing GEN 7, why does GEN 7 pokemon exist?
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>>32035099
Because Gamefreak likes making money, and releasing new games is important to making money.
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>>32034930
Make sure the good designs got into the mainline games.
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>>32035106
Yeah, i know... but aren't bruxish,dhelmise,drampa,komala,pyukumuku,yungoss,minior"a bit" pointless?
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>>32035206

...no? They're all Pokemon that someone might be interested in using. Just because you're not personally interested in them doesn't mean that nobody is.
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>>32035206
All those are great except bruxish
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>>32034960
All of these:
>Minimum of 80 new Pokemon, 20 new variants, and 5-10 Megas at the start of every gen.
>Give it a good plot, and you're the star
>Cutscenes can be skipped
>Customization, including being able to wear old protags' outfits
>A character that can change a Pokemon's Nature, so if you found a shiny in the wild you won't have to worry about it having a shitty nature
>Refresh now has its old minigames, along with new ones
>Vampires. Kids love vampires
Good!

All of these however:
>Fusion
>The ability to summon demons
>The plot branches off into different routes, including one where you can destroy the world
Terrible. Terrible ideas. The branching plot could be really cool though. No world destroying though.
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Hard mode.

>trainers have evolved versions of thier teams
>pokemon earn less experience points
>gym leaders have competitive and challenging pokemon

Also the fact you can't pick from any starter pokemon from any gen is just a missed opportunity for more fun.
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>>32034966
>Restricting areas via HM moves was a good idea.
Commit seppuku anon
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>>32035048
It will never happen
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>>32035532
>pokemon earn less experience points
This is rather dumb, since it makes Hard mode objectively worse for postgame grinding and doesn't really add much to difficulty in the first place.

If you have to nerf experience gain, just lock off the Exp. Share until postgame or something.
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>>32034966
>Restricting areas via HM moves was a good idea
Poké Ride is way better and they should expand upon it. Going back to HMs would be a huge misstep but knowing GF that's exactly what they're going to do for the HM-heavy Sinnoh in the remakes.
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>>32036845
Poke ride requires the following changes
- remove stupid music
- remove stupid safety clothes, keep own outfit
- bring back oras soaring
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>>32034930
revert to GSC
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>>32036910
>tfw you forget FRLG even exist until you see this bait image
why are they so forgettable?
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>>32034930
Another shadow pokemon game.
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>>32034966
>Restricting areas via HM moves was a good idea.
I unironically want to end your life
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It's as good as it's always been. Which is the problem. GF should be making much bigger strides.
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>>32036910
>Having this much shit taste
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To me, it doesn't matter what happens before the league, I pretty much always find that fun

We need:
>Postgame, lots of it
>Battle Frontier
>Repeatable miniquests
>Worthwhile content like the slotmachines (worth literally 100s of hours)
>Customization, lots of it
>New mega-evolutions
>New Z moves
>All Pokemon (except some legendaries) obtainable in the two/three versions
>Dynamic E4 and champion, chosen out of a given selection of trainers (some references to old games perhaps)
>When you become champion, you don't rechallenge your E4, instead you continuously defend your title against challengers
>Actually running the game on a system that has good FPS

And finally:
>All gym leaders and E4 catch up to you sometime in post-game
>You lose your badges and champion title
>Since you lose badges, HMs are locked
>You now have the option to rechallenge every gym leader and trainer in a challenging way, without having to restart
>This also happens to either your old rival or a new one appears
>Some new trainers appear
>Maybe use a different storyline for evil organization
>After beating NG+, you can challenge trainers like Brendan, Gold, N, Lillie, Iris, Brock, May etc
Essentially a NG+ for Pokemon
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>>32034960
>>The plot branches off into different routes, including one where you can destroy the world

so no endgame then?
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>>32034960
These were really good ideas until you started talking about vampires
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Never, because game freak are bad developers
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>>32037555
Trips confirm
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>>32037547
>Huge region
>Pokemon following you
>Being able to sneak again
>Dexnav returns
>World Tournament
>GTS showing what ability, moveset, ect the pokemon have
>Bottle Caps is easier to get and you can give it to an pokemon no matter what level it is
>Broken Bottle Caps that turns you pokemons IV to 0 if you want to use a Trick Room set or Foul Play
>You can get egg moves by Heart Scale
>Being able to change the nature of you pokemon without breeding
>Ability Capsules can be used by a Tutor guy to change your pokemon ability permanently. You can also get hidden ability
>Changing backgrounds in wifi battles
>If Nintendo ever makes a more powerful Switch they should release the next games on it
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>>32034930
Everyone who forced this joke deserves terminal rectal cancer.
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>>32036883
All of this.

All.
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>>32037547
>Essentially a NG+ for Pokemon

The journey is a means, not an end. Particularly to play against others online.
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>>32036910
We need to bring back Tajiri.
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>>32034977
you're vastly overestimating the attention span of people who unironically play smartphone games
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>>32034966
>Restricting areas via HM moves was a good idea.
As compared to restricting areas via roadblocks/angry NPCs/ bullshit power outages etc? It's literally the same thing
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>>32035053
>Get rid of .pk7
You're an idiot, anon. .pk7 is a fan-made filetype, simply containing the data of a single pokemon as represented in the save file.
As long as you have a save file, you will be able to modify it with 3rd party tools. Only way to stop cheating once and for all is playing the game on a central server, in which case you'll always need internet to even play the game, and I'm sure they're not stupid enough to do that. Other than that, they can try to put countermeasures, such as additional security on the console (to prevent obtaining/modifying the save file in the first place), or additional sanity checks to check for modification of the save file (which they tried in sun/moon, but with the debugging symbols being left in the game, it turned out to be pretty easy to read the code to figure out how it checked it, and modify the save file accordingly).
Really, the only thing that can stop cheating is a disapproving community. Much like steroids in real life, it should be discouraged and the rules should be enforced. But since this is a video game, people don't care enough.
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>>32034930
More Gen 1 pandering.
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>>32034930
random trainers are more difficult
admins are mini boss fights and will scale 3+ levels of your highest level pokemon
maybe +5 for leaders though that could be a little brutal,
delet cutscenes entirely
don't need to skip
don't need em period
back to sprites, honestly gen 5 had it the best, if only the sprites had more pixels these 3d models are shit
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>>32034930
by taking a break and start working on a new drilldozer
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>>32034930
>By not making more Gen 7 games and release a Gen 8 game in 2020.
>End the traditional RPG Hawk Eye perspective and make the camera be able for you to look at the horizon.
>Actually spend a lot in designing gorgeous and huge landscapes, so the player must take at least one hour to go from one side of the map to the other.
>Don't make Pokemon Battles interrupt the overworld experience. Every movement can be used outside battle, but only a few are useful when you are not battling.
>Open world. Stop with the "cities connected by natural passageways" trend, and actually make the player be able to explore two-dimensionally.
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>>32035206
Learn to space holy shit.
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Remove Masuda
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>>32034996
This
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>>32034960
You had me until vampires. Now I'm having flashbacks of Gantz.
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>More Pokémon
>More Post-Game
>Keep the story writing like Sun and Moon but with the hability of jumping Cutscenes
>Instead of adding stupid new features every game, improve the ones we already have instead of scratching the ideas and jumping to new ones
>Making one game that isn't inspired in a place in the world
>Main games on Switch
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>>32038473
I agree with everything except the open world, I'm getting a bit tired of that concept.
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>>32034960
So, you just want to make it an SMT clone?
**God did nothing wrong**
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Multiple save files
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>>32035027
An Atlus made Pokemon game would be kino and everyone knows it.

The onlt reason it hasn't been made yet is because Game Freak know they'll be exposed otherwise
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>>32035053
>WAHHH HACKERS

I bet you watch Verlisify too.
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>>32038081
He not come back to him the series should had ended in gsc
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>>32034930
Get rid of all the Mexicans, Try to ban everyone from 7 countries and replace obamacare with something that funds the jews.
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Get rid of the leveling system.
>No more level curves
>No more grinding
>No more overleveled play-throughs
>No more EXP Share

You can still raise your stats through other methods like Pokethalon, Super Training, and Gym Training.

Gym Training: You partake in training at any of the Pokemon Gyms. The harder the gym, the more stat points you can earn.

No levels means more world to explore. You aren't restricted or limited to any level cap. A Poliwag can stand toe-to-toe with a Squirtle. A Pikachu is probably going to lose to a Magnezone. This make the gameplay more focused are Type-Matchups and Pokemon Movesets/Abilities. Even though your Pidgeotto is a first stage evolution, if your opponent sends out a Roggenrola, you might want to switch out (unless you actually trained its stats).

Side Quests. Make NPCs actually important. They give you incentives to fill out your PokeDex. Rewards are given to completed quests. They could be anything really:
>Fish a large Magikarp for $500
>Put a Zubat to sleep and catch it for 3 Dusk Balls
>Catch at least 100 Pokemon. Here's a Bike!
Just stop giving us free shit.

Bigger World. Now that we don't have levels, we can have as many regions as we want. Stronger Pokemon are going to be more difficult to obtain. Bigger World means more Pokemon to catch, less Pokemon to trade. Obviously there are going to be version exclusives, but make 80% of Pokemon catchable on one game, 10% through Legenday Events (in game), and 10% version exclusive.

Different ways to catch Pokemon:
Surfing, Diving, Fishing, Grass, Tall Grass, Caves, Mountains, Night time exclusives, Safari, Quests, Honey Trees, Headbutt Trees, Rock Smashing, Fossil Hunting. Swarm Routes. More variety.

Make money harder to get. I'm tired of always having millions of dollars with nothing to spend it on. Clothes are good money burners, but introduce more things to buy, or actually make money more tedious to get.

There's more but this is a good start
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>>32034930
>Option to choose difficulty at start of the game, also a Hardcore mode that restricts items and maybe moves
>All trainers have better AI, Gym/Elite AI nearly cheats
>Remove IVs, Now Pokémon will have 1 Nature and 1 Trait Instead
>Make it so 1/100 of wild Pokémon have a chance of being shiny
>Redesign all post Gen 3 Pokémon to look less retarded
>And this >>32034996
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>>32034930
This would require the players to stop being whinny bitches, but try to train 12-15 pokemon at a time, trust me, have a rooster of 12+ pokemon at every moment and switch them either when they're 1-2 levels higher than the rest of your team or you need a specific pokemon to defeat a leader, then move them out of your main team when you get a new pokemon you want to use instead of them, this way you'll have a very wide team, 1-2 levels above the the wild pokemon's (thanks to exp share) and actually have fun playing with pokemon you never considered worth of your main team without the fear of losing them nuzlocke gives.

>>32036910
>The remakes worse than the originals
g8 b8 m8 I r8 8/88

>>32038473
This is maybe the worst set of ideas I've ever read.
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>>32034930
Make every game that's released from now on set in kanto with only kanto mons, removing everything that was included past RBG because they're all shitty mechanics that shouldn't be in te game. Also keep the old gameboy graphics because mons back then looked more fearsome and original than the shitmons we had now

:^)
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>>32044425
ill juts call dem le gen wunnar xD I am so fanny and original xDDD
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I dunno. This is what I would like to see:

1. Immediate removal of the casualization. They have made the games easy in one way but complicated in another - the battling, breeding, mechanics etc are way more complicated now but the actual game play is easy. Bring it back to the way it was in the beginning - a more open ended sandbox type game where exploration is rewarded. We don't need a super anime type plot where you are the sure rspecial universe-saving chosen one whose main purpose is to catch the legendary and kill the big bad evil dude. I hate it. Stop this. Man in GSC Lugia and Ho Oh were rewards for exploring. That's what I want. This also includes removing the constant handouts - I played Moon, and it felt like every time I got to a new area I was gifted tons of cash or rare items. Like why? Also, the goddamn cutscenes have to go. this was just go to area, unstoppable video, repeat until the end of the game. It really needs to stop.

2. No HMs but doing it smarter than before. Either you use an item system in place of HMs, or you simply allow Pokemon originally capable of using the HMs to use them after beating the relevant gym leader. So, for example, after defeating Koga, anything capable of swimming with Surf can swim on water.

3. Eliminate megas, z-moves, any stupid gimmicky shit. Pokemon are not digimon.
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>>32044465
dude i love charizard lmao gen 1 amirite lol
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>>32044744
KEK xD KEK GENWUN GENWUN
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>>32044804
ew that pokeyman isn't genwun get it outta my screen xd
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Rerelease GSC, with the physical/special split built in.

That's it. End the series after that,
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im glad gamefreak will never listen to the pedophile neckbeards that post on this site
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>>32044827
So, HG/SS?
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>>32044827
>physical/special split
>mechanic introduced after gen 1

ew no gen 1 was perfect lmao haha kek xD
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>>32044711
objectively best opinion
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>>32044854
>t. redditor

I le tip my fedora to you m'lady
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>>32034930
I'd end it.
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>>32037555
well that's that
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>>32044351
All of this and no more HMs
>Example
>Any Pokemon with sharp claws or blades can cut things or any electric/fire type can use flash once you get the required badge, they don't need to know the moves
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retcon megas
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>>32034930
Let the B team make games again.

Seriously, did they disband that unit or something because I can't recall them working on a game since BW2
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Remove competitive autists and pkhex
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Retcon gen 6 and gen 7 as a whole.
Reboot the franchise with new regions but only the first 649 pokémon and first 5 gens mechanics.
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>>32048349
>but only the first 649 pokémon

That's idiotic.
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>>32044353
>>The remakes worse than the originals
>g8 b8 m8 I r8 8/88

>Now pokemon have natures
>If you find a shiny it is shit not only because it has not perfect IVs but also because its nature isn't the better.
>Same every mon, you'll probably need invest a lot of time to get a decent one
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>>32046036

>no more HMs

Fuck, usually I don't agree with this, but

>Any Pokemon with sharp claws or blades can cut things or any electric/fire type can use flash once you get the required badge, they don't need to know the moves

The badges idea is great
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>>32034930
mainline game on the switch
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>>32034930
* DexNav, Refresh, and Super Training are now permanent features.
* We are in dire need of a "catch up" generation, like Gens II and IV, to fully-flesh out evolutionary lines like Qwifish, Carnivine, Durant, Komala, etc. with either new evolutions or Megas.
* Likewise, focus on adding to and improving on existing features, like Mega Evolutions, regional variants, and Z-Powers before abandoning them for the next big thing.
* New batches of original Pokemon lines should be based on what happened in Gen VI: A limited number of newly introduced monsters, but with strong designs, inspiration from unused animals or concepts, fully-flesh out evolutionary lines, and use of unused type combinations where possible.
* Bring back Triple- and Rotation-Battle formats.
* Improve the fucking frame rate, at least to the levels of Pokemon X and Y. If this means getting rid of trainer models on the battlefield and superfluous special effects, so be it.
* Gym leaders and Elite Four members shouldn't be tied to a specific type anymore, but rather a specific theme.
* The introduction to the game shouldn't last longer than ten minutes.
* The ability to skip all duologue and tutorials at any time.
* More complex dungeons than what we've gotten in Gens VI and VII, with more puzzle elements.
* The number of Pokemon trainers have return to their approximate X / Y levels.
* Remove time-based wild Pokemon appearances. Again, X / Y did this right by having each route instead contain a large amount of unique Pokemon.
* Combine Pokemon Hordes and S.O.S.: The initial Pokemon can call up to four additional allies, one per turn, but only up to four.
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Improve how GF maintains their game after launch.
So what I'll probably do is.
>Additional content/DLC instead of THIRD/NEW version, ergo expanding the lifecycle.(I'll talk more about this more)
>Uses the Global Link analytic to check under-represented pokemon, then buff em.
>Global Mission is now gone -It's not fun "missions" that forces player to keep playing for lame prizes.
>Changed into DLC stories mode with satisfying prizes.
>Mystery gift pokemon is not given to you; You go and get it, like Azure Flute/Eon Ticket, BUT with story.
>Game ties in with movie
>Game keep being supported for 4+ years, instead of making new games every couple of years.

XY and ORAS uses the same fucking engine, even gen 7 and 6 uses similar shit in many parts.
Instead of over-glorified new games that are just slightly improved from the previous ones, just improve the fucking game. Third version is just a lame excuse to release a DLC with price-tag of a full game.
Doing shit like this will make sure players don't stop playing after a month.
When new console/handheld device is out, THEN release the new game.
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>>32048817
DLC > Third Version

Oh my God, yes. A thousand times yes.

Knowing GF, though, they're opt for the route with better short-term financial gain at the expense of long-term goodwill.
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Eventually, the handheld Pokemon games need to move past the same turn-based combat that we've had for 20 years. Personally, I'd love for something like Pokken Tournament to be the main battle system.
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>>32048721

What did he mean by this?
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>>32034930
Give it to some developers who know how to make good games because GF has clearly on the decline. It happens, just look at Square. They used to be the kangz and shiet.
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>>32049078
Holy shit this all sounds so terrible. It's like a wannabe-edgy 14-year-old kid's fever dream.

No offense.
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>>32049156
>GF has clearly on the decline

I'd say they've been at a steady level of mediocrity for pretty much their whole existence. Even Gen I was a glitch-filled mess. They've always had great ideas, and questionable execution.
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>>32048942
Kill yourself
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>>32049203
They're a doujin circle
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>>32048942
>the handheld Pokemon games need to move past the same turn-based combat that we've had for 20 years

...why?
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This thing was the downfall of the series

Might as well just go back to 2D Pokemon
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>>32049223
Because its potential innovations are drying up. This is why we're getting flashy but ultimately trivial things like Z-Moves. The series feels like it's stagnating, imo, because of this.

I think a Pokken Tournament-like battle system would be more dynamic and exciting, plus I think you could preserve a lot of elements from the existing system with some tweaks.
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>>32034930
End lag
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>>32049257
>XY sold more than RSE/DPPt/BW/
>ORAS Sold more than LGFR/HGSS
>3DS is the downfall of the series
>Might as well just go back to 2D Pokemon
Butthurt spritefag
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>>32034930
Assuming there is no 3ds successor put the first gen 8 games on the Switch. Don't get too ambitious with graphics and instead focus on speed and being lag free.

Rock smash animations, move animations, the time it takes between an encounter being triggered and menu being active should take two seconds at most.

Make more than 130 new Pokemon per generation again. Making fast ice types, psuedos that aren't dragons and while also making less forms and legendaries.

Keep something like hyper trading but give the player level 95 opponents in the postgame in some form.

Not necessary or cost effective but maybe right before the 3ds dies give an app that allows for backwards transfer and access to older events.

More games that play like main series games. Think Orre but having different gimmicks than Orre's shadow Pokemon snagging and double battle only thing.

Make spin-offs that don't feel too shallow stuff like Pokken and mystery dungeon.

Find some way to wrap up Ash's story. Having him become champion of Alola and then loss to Kukui train for a year then become Kanto champion is one way to do it.

Retell Ash's story with better pacing and less potholes in a series with 25 episode seasons.

Have Ash's replacement get all 8 badges in less than a year and a half. Do something else with the remaining time like having him travel to an older region making the tournament longer.

After an Ash retelling regions have a gap year in the gap year tell an original story in the Pokemon world.
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>>32049267

The turn-based battle system is fundamental to the character of the main series. There's plenty you can do to change the battle system without changing this basic nature. Larger deviations like real-time RPG systems or fighting game mechanics should be saved for spinoff games.
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>>32049281
>Make more than 130 new Pokemon per generation again. Making fast ice types, psuedos that aren't dragons and while also making less forms and legendaries.
>More games that play like main series games. Think Orre but having different gimmicks than Orre's shadow Pokemon snagging and double battle only thing.
Find some way to wrap up Ash's story. Having him become champion of Alola and then loss to Kukui train for a year then become Kanto champion is one way to do it.
>Retell Ash's story with better pacing and less potholes in a series with 25 episode seasons.
>Have Ash's replacement get all 8 badges in less than a year and a half. Do something else with the remaining time like having him travel to an older region making the tournament longer.
>After an Ash retelling regions have a gap year in the gap year tell an original story in the Pokemon world.
Not going to happen
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>>32049267
I don't really agree with that assessment because Atlus exists.

Pokemon is stale as all hell because everyone has accepted that it's for children so we can go nowhere else from that trajectory now. We will never go away from these games being unengaging ultra casualized games aimed at basically the mobile gamer at this point.

Even just working on the aesthetics and presentation would give the series a huge jolt, but nope. I can literally see exactly how uninspired the next game will be.
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>>32049442
>aesthetics and presentation

I'm curious, what specifically would you like to see in this regard? Whatever else you think about it, didn't SM do quite a lot in this area?
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>>32049484
Not him, but yes, if nothing else, the menu layouts and overall presentation during battles was one of the things Sun and Moon excelled at.
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>>32049301
Well no shit but should. The fast ice types thing might happen though.
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>>32051275
Fast ice types is the only thing with chance to happen
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>>32036910
>Emerald
>BW2
>Hall of shame
Kys
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>>32048721
autism
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>>32051323
You have no faith that they might be more than 100 new pokemon at once again.
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>>32052951
yo momma
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>>32053035
Yeah it will 80 at most
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>Gumshoos's design is based on a private eye

>everyone and their fucking mom makes Trump jokes about it

Please stop.
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>>32054887
>Card has ability called Search the premises
>Trump is searching for illegals to deport
desu, if you don't think it's trump the pokemon your a cuck lol.
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>>32055882
also the ability is a reference to the russian hackers helping him because he saw all democrat secrets.
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>>32035206
Fuck you, I like most of those.
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