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Dragon gym (potentially) soon edition

>Discord chat
https://discord.gg/VYtmAcs
>Figure Lists (Click the figure to see the movesets)
http://serebii.net/duel/figures.shtml
>Plates Listing
http://serebii.net/duel/plates.shtml
>Quest Rewards
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/amanomurakumo/20170129
>Japanese Pokemon Duel twitter
https://twitter.com/pokemoncomaster

Store Links:
>iOS
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>Android
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>APK File
www.apkmirror.com/apk/the-pokemon-company/pokemon-duel/

>FAQs
http://pastebin.com/U26QTvSY

>Old Thread
>>31991091
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dragon gym maybe in 13.5 hours
don't get your hopes up though (I am)

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20170309T04&p0=4429&msg=Potential+start+of+Dragon+Gym+Cup&font=cursive
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>>32011329
So, let's assume that we get the gym
Is evolving vibrava into flygon worth?

And why do i get the feeling that we will get a gym of an entirely different type?
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>>32011348
just have the evo set up and evolve only if you think it suits the situation
you don't have to evolve

>And why do i get the feeling that we will get a gym of an entirely different type?
for no reason at all because everything indicates dragon+fairy
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>>32011370
They just want you to think it will be Dragon.
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7 MINUTES UNTIL nothing :^)
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>>32011348
I think vibrava's ability with 3mp sounds more useful, especially if youve got more than one .only reason to use flygon is draco meteor
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easiest game of my life
screw people who plant shuppet in the center like that
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Let's see how long I last this time
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>lose my daily mission match
>special mission
>win 3 in a row now

fuck you
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>day starts, pick up phone, play Duel, fight the 4 Deoxys faggot, no problem I've beaten these guys tons of times before
>his Mew fucking Shuttle Flips in the worst time and place possible and now he gets to the win
Good morning everyone, how's your day?
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it's a "opponent greninja spins shuriken 7 times when you used an xattack to just make sure you'd be killing it" episode
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>>32011677
Getting memed upon by the Deoxys-A of free respins, lose, and then winning the match after in three turns because of a very lucky miss. Just 2100 things.
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>>32011701
well, did it die?
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>>32011764

>7 shuriken

what do you think anon? I was just hitting for 50-70 with a Speed Deoxys

>next duel I get bad spins, against a deck that somehow was the direct counter of half my stuff, just by controlling the field with one vibrava of the two he had (everything i sent out died in their first battle)

i thought 4 wins in a row yesterday was the start of my climb through masters, but it was just a trap to make me feel overconfident
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is duel down for something else?
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>>32011842
>what do you think anon? I was just hitting for 50-70 with a Speed Deoxys
So, you totally obliterate it, nice
who the fuck attacks with deoxis speed?, even with X attack you aren't gonna win unless it's a first or second stage pokemon
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>>32012043

expected damage from greninja is really low (i fucking know, mine spins twice most of the time and that's it, sometimes once, sometimes 3, ONCE it hit it 5 times), and if effective i would've won no matter what, but rng decided to give me a big FUCK YOU right after it spun 3 shuriken (the max it could spin for me to win) and proceeded to more than double that shit
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Its kind of bullshit how much harder common figures are to level up than EXs. or literally an other figure for that matter
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>>32012070
I hope you mean CLv, because EXs level up a fuckton slower than Commons. CLv is gotten either from cubes or doubles, which are a lot more common for more common mons (wow, crazy) so either way not bullshit

source: have a CLv'd Emolga somewhere, did not feel rustled along the way
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>It's a Greninja spins Water Shuriken Six times against a 90 power move episode

Fukken beautiful
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>>32011348
It allows Draco Meteor to not tie with Stuff like Will o wisp and Cotten gaurd, Cancel Soar, and snipe goalies from across the board while allowing dragon claw to tie with a non Clevel'd Dragon breath, so it's worth.
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>>32012070

pfffft, come back complaining only after you put some work like the cacneanon

RIP in spines ;__;7
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>>32012361
What happened to them
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>>32012465
Well he hasn't posted in a while, so it's safe to assume he was murdered and his body was tossed into some ditch.
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What's your opening strategy in duel?
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>>32012863
Be bad
Win from people worse
Lose against mediocre+ people
Blame the game
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>>32012103
>which are a lot more common for more common mons (wow, crazy) so either way not bullshit

I don't know, i've been trying to Clv up this prinplup and it's taking me ages, i'm right now at 23/30, and while it's a common figure it's still hard to find any double, so i've been doing it mostly out of C cubes
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>>32012465

he probably fell into madness (i know, i was going crazy just to farm enough for CLv 1) and started driving a nail through his body for each time he didn't spin a Cacnea in the roulette, until he missed enough times...
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>>32012863

move figure forward

if opponent doesn't move theirs next to it, panic
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>>32012863
Always play for the Hurdle Jump trap. Wins you 90% of games, even in 2500+.
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>>32012999
how do you do that?
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>>32012961
There are a couple of redditurds who have a C Lv. 10 Cacnea.
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>>32012961
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>>32013063
For what purpose
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>>32013084
memes
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>>32013059
Move a 3MP to a nearest central intersection
They move to touch it
Hurdle Jump
Now you either win or surround whatever they sent out
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>>32012999
>>32013107
>Wins you 90% of games, even in 2500+.
i don't believe you, specially because players over 2400 won't try to block you with a figure in the middle of the board, they will go for a counter rush or put the figure 1 space away from yours.
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I opened my 3rd Sylveon so I have everything for a fairies deck minus a Ho-oh, is the deck still good enough for comp without it?
What's a good replacement?
ATM I have shuppet jsut because it's 3mp

These are my other deck, the biggest one being my current one
Which is better?

They're all using
> double chance
> hurdle jump
> goal block
> counter attack
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>>32013380
The point of my post is that anything under 2800 is a joke.
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>Marill and Shelgon from orange booster
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>>32013380

anyone who isn't aware of you having a hurdle jump and moves next to your scout is bound to

a) fight it out or risk it walking into the goal (this is why Eons and greninja are mostly the ones used for this, they have good dodge, without wait like Squirtle does)
b) block it's way with their own hurdle jump and give up the entry point for a while (this is the main use for diving entry early in the game, and why people start with the birds, just in case)

c) use goal block early (fags)
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when you drop in rating from 2680s to 2500s
recovered to 2605 but fuck, and it wasn't my fault it was the game's fault this time.
hurr durr 4 misses in a row
hurr durr game hangs during opponent search but when I start the game my rating is 40 points down
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forgot image
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>don't know what to do
>use ai
>nothing is happening
>animations are still playing
>timer isn't moving
What the fuck do I do
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>>32013570
forfeit and accept your fate
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>>32013570
Happened to me once. You're fucked. The game will say you forfeit for DCing.
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It's me or the game is shitting itself?, it's almost as bad and slow as the first week of the game release, it already kick me twice while trying to go through my mail.
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>>32013927
not just you, just happened to me too, servers are shitting themselves. came on here to see if anyone else had same problem
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What's the deal with room matches? Are they just friendly matches? Can I just enter one and forfeit without problems if the daily quest asks me?
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>>32014019
Yes to all
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wow nice server
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maintenance just before I can start unlocking a 3 hour booster.
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Are we /apologems/?
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Get the fuck out of here Joe
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>>32014276

i thought his eyes were looking in different directions there
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>>32014019

I hate when I enter a fundeck and people just quit
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Which move should I clv up?
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>>32013072
I can deeply sympathize with this.
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>>32014373
i did the bigger white attack with less damage. but i only use poliwhirl if i can evolve it. 51 damage can fuck shit up.
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Maintenance is over. doesnt look like they added anything
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>>32014612
they probably fixed whatever was causing the servers to run like shit
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something that just happened to me
>be playing a match against a japanese guy who has all of his ex figures with at least Clv+1 on all of their attacks
>he's playing hard defensive
>i leave my zapdos at one of his entry points
>i move everything back to defend my goal and force him to go offensive
>He moves his blastoise with 103 dmg to fight my 101 dmg yvetal
>Yvetal gets fucked
>move my poliwhirl on top of my goal
>blastoise attack it
>Rolls an attack, poliwhirl moves it to purple
>uses double chance to roll again, rolls purple, poliwhirl moves it to attack
>poliwhirl gets fucked
>my last hope is my reshiram, and i'm gonna use double chance to try and fly over it and on my goal
>for some reason i can get my plates to activate
>welp, might as well leave it to Carlo to save the day
>Carlo activates double chance on reshiram and attacks blastoise
>blastoise rolls a miss and gets fucked
>He surrenders
>mfw
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>>32012066
I just won a match because of this. Ran a Deoxys-S towards the goal, he defended with Greninja, attacked, I landed on Quick Attack, he landed on Shuriken once and I walked into the goal in 3 turns
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>>32012066
>>32015197
>tfw the only time I've seen a Greninja land something really good was a 6x Water Shuriken (126 damage because Clv1)
>against my Magikarp who then proceeded to evolve and murder him
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THANK YOU BASED RAINBOW BOOSTER
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Who do I swap out for my homie zapdos

I have a bunch of good (R)s, namely leafeon another glaceon umbreon etc
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>>32016061
Kirlia

Zapdos (and occasionally Greninja) can do a fine enough job slapping enemy Shuppets around
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3 hours until either fun or disappointment

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20170309T04&p0=4429&msg=Potential+start+of+Dragon+Gym+Cup&font=cursive
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>>32016435
Gym events stress me out
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>>32016435
i hope my 4 salamence rush work
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>>32016435
>>32016551
>>32016599
there might be maintenance before it actually starts
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DRAGONITE - Ex
2MP
Ability: Soar
Moves:
Dragon Rush, 100 white (40)
Dragon Tail, 70 white (20)
Push Aside, 3*, purple (30)
Miss, red (10)
Push aside:
>opponent is moved to the bench and gains wait

>https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemonduel/comments/5ybkys/dragonite_figure_ex_leaked_wheel/?st=J01PORNT&sh=6d582cc1
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>>32016704
segments sum to 96, not 100
try it again but make it something like 40,16,32,8
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>>32016704
>dragonite_figure_ex_leaked_wheel/?st=J01PORNT&sh=6d582cc1
>J01PORNT&sh=6d582cc1
>PORN

I'm a tad suspect
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>open Orange
>get the Gardevoir I was ABOUT to buy

whew

>first time I try it on is a damn 5 Deoxys team + Latios
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>>32016796
It links to a reddit thread about getting to masters as a f2p ignore it.
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>>32016877

>typhlosion
>latios
>raikou
>regular deoxys
>garchomp
>giratina
>dialga

kek what a shit collection of EXs
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>>32016877

and then when I actually gave up and started to rush with Lugia

>he switches to defense deoxys twice
>i hit hurricane twice
>uses x attack on Speed deoxys and attacks from behind lugia, probably thinking "if you roll purple thrice you're dead"
>he was right, since he spun the gold attack
>but I didn't get purple thrice

my clutchest victory ever
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>>32016791
Dude.
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>>32016955
not my fault you screwed it up
will make it more believable for next time
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>>32016948
he screwed up big time
you should never be able to take a goal with a single player against a deoxys swapper

if he moved that attack deoxys forward instead of (assuming) putting defense on the entry earlier then he could keep running speed to his goal and swapping it out to whatever is on his bench whenever you attacked it, so it would be ready to run back to goal and repeat every time you knocked something off with lugia
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>>32016877
Buy two more Jelly Respiners
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>>32017085
but what about meatgross
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>>32017111
>But what about the 1MP EX Figure that one in every 10 players has
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>>32017111

fucking vegan

>>32017085

I'm gonna buy the next non-combo OP EX they bring to the game
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if i run 3 manaphy do i get +60 water damage
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>>32017397
yes but you also get 3 figs with 1 mp
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>>32016704
>>32016796
I think i'll google myself the pokemon duel reddit to check that shit up.
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>>32016968
Wheel totals all add up to 96. Nobody knows why, but they do. Go check any wheel in the game, they add to 96.
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>>32017446
thats what I said
we do know why
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>>32017429

explain to me why 3 manaphy 3 greninja would be bad

>greninja hitting for 120 with hydro pump/minimum 80 with a half-sized yellow
>potential for 6MP greninja if manaphy purple is hit
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reminder to get your dragon/fairy decks ready to use in 1 hour 20 minutes (maybe)
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>>32017488

only if you don't get rushed before you can get all them in
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>>32017488
because you have 3 guys with 1mp
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>>32017488
>explain to me why 3 manaphy 3 greninja would be bad

>need a lot of turns to set up defenses
>manaphy is MP1 which mean 2 turns to get a manaphy out of your entry point so it doesn't block you from getting other figures in the board
>repeat the last step for 3 times, making 6 turns wasted on setting up your team
>if you leave the manaphies defending back at base you would need to sit all 3 of them around the goal, for if one of them dies and leave your goal undefender, unless you have another manaphy right next to the goal, you're gonna lose
>manaphy doesn't work as an attacker
>manaphy barely works as a defender
>manaphy takes too much effort
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>>32017535
>>32017508
>>32017507

ok how about manaphy 5 tentacool?
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>>32017625
then you have 0 guys with 3mp
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>>32017634

but neither do fairy decks and they're good
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What is the best attack to level up on articuno

I was thinking the aoe freeze
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>>32017644
but fairy decks hit for 150 (with only 5 rounders), tentacool is hitting for 110 max

also sylveon round will be doing 250 with 5 rounders after the gym buffs
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>>32017625

I tried the cool meme and it's absolutely useless against proper teams, meme teams should really just fight other meme teams for fun
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>>32017625
it could work but you would need to run all of them with evolution and X attack plates, and maybe goal block, but it could work i guess.
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>>32017726
>with evolution

tentacruel is a downgrade from tentacool
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>>32017501
What do you think? Shelgons make good defenders and +MP will only make them better, plus can evolve, Marwiles have Trickery, the largest segment, which is blue and allows me to choose to whether to basically get away scot free or roll over to a 70 (or 90 in gym) attack. Sligoo is just so I'll have a 3MP defender if necessary. I really want a Reshiram obvs. Also I have 2 Jigglypuffs ready for another, but I do want to see how the Mawiles run.
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>>32017745
mawile is alright, trickery is cool but you have twice as much chance of getting 50 or 30 damage as you do of landing trickery

shelgon is alright, but depends on how the gym meta goes though really
they fall to attackers over 100, so if thats popular it might be better just to use 3mp salamence off the bat
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either good times or dissapointment ahead
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>>32017786
bad news friends
I used the banner time which is wrong
its an hour extra from what I was thinking
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>>32017501
>tfw these are the best dragons and fairies I have
Why do I never have good stuff for Gyms ;_;
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>>32017735
>tentacruel is a downgrade from tentacool
He goes from a 40+50(poison boost)+20(manaphy boost) to a 80+10(evo)+20(manaphy), and his attack poisons or paralyze the opponent, which is better than poison, and it will still buff your tentacools AND it's attack wont go down if you're missing one or 2 tentacools
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>>32018033
yeah and he's fucking 1 mp
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>>32018038
Oh...right
Nvm, don't play tentacool+manaphy decks, it's a fucking garbage meme without any redeemable factor
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>>32018057
>>32018038
they should just slap speed boost on every 1mp final form imo
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>>32017964
We aren't getting it. There will be a period where there isn't going to be a gym icon for a week.
THEN the Gym starts.
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>>32018069
don't kill my hopes and dreams
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>>32018077
t. player who wasted all of his material in a fairy meme deck
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>tfw all the old EX figures like zapdos articuno mewtwo blastoise and Lugia are extremely shit now

I want to get off the Deoxys wild ride
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>>32018099
I miss when mewtwo would kill most things with its 70 damage attack
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>>32018099
>tfw all the old EX figures like zapdos articuno mewtwo blastoise and Lugia aren't broken shit like deoxys/reuniclus
FTFY
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>>32018127
>>32018099
i have my deck set to beat deoxys

whenever i face a non-deoxys deck i lose lol
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>>32018153
what is your deck?
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>>32018087
>best Fairy is Mawile
>best Dragon is Sliggoo

Welp, this gym won't be kind to me.

Hopefully I can reach 100 wins against bots in between all the forfeits.
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>>32018156
mew
metagross
zapdos
poliwag-->poliwhirl
shuppet
vibrava-->flygon

i fear ex teams more than deoxys
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TMs WHEN
>replace a segment of the same size or less with this move
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>>32018156
but yeah any deck with metagross makes the cancer not as intimidating.

heavy purple can stall for positioning and yellow users can knock out shit occassionally
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no apologems
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>>32018227
MEGAEVOLUTION WHEN?
>Same as regular evolution but moves don't change, only 1 allowed per match
Would make some EX-R mons better against broken Gacha-shitters
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>>32018285
>we apologize sincerely for everyone who has enjoyed the incovenience
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is the dragon gym here yet?
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>>32018285
We may get them tomorrow, but then again they aren't the Shadowverse team
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>>32018392
maybe soon, maybe next week, maybe never
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NO GYM
boring
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>>32018557
fairy fags and dragon fags BTFO!
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>>32018573
regular people btfo too though because waiting around for timed boosters and a single earn-able one each day gets boring
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what time do the japanese people sleep play? I want to avoid them at all costs because I'm tired of losing to $500 6x deoxys teams
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THANK YOU BASED METAGROSS
THANK YOU BASED GLACEON
EAT SHIT REUNICLUS
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>>32018902
I'm no fan of encountering full deoxys swappers but accusing them of being p2w is pretty childish in itself
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>>32018903
did metagross even do anything? he's on your bench
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>>32018919
Metagross got knocked out by his Zapdos when it rolled Bullet Punch, which in turn got knocked out by my Gardevoir when it rolled Steel Wing. Managed to knock out two of the Renuniclus while Metagross was still on the field, which helped tremendously.
It ended up back on the bench because the single Reuniclus kept on trying to knock out what I had on his entry point (which I just back onto when I pushed a figure up and eventually it got cycled back to the bench.
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>>32018902
>>32018910
im scared of their cl levels
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>>32018910
how else does someone get an entire team of deoxys then? Deoxys has only been in the game for a few weeks. The chances of getting 6 (along with them all having +2 Clv so it's more like 18 at this point) without paying any money is ridiculously slim. There are people on leddit dropping $200 into this game. It's not a stretch to say that japanese players, a group known to pay tons of money on gacha games like this, are dumping even more in
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>>32018910
>having 6 newly released EX figures and their plate without paying a cent
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>>32018955
>>32018956
I opened one of each except for speed which I could have crafted if I wanted to
the plate is purchasable for not too many gems
I haven't paid a single cent

yeah its probable that they did drop a bunch of dosh for it, but I disagree with accusing p2w every time you come across something like that

especially in the case of japanese players they may have had a lot of mats and cubes saved for something as strong as deoxys to come along

besides the birds in the gym, there hasnt been anything completely game changing like reuniclus or deoxys teams as far as I'm aware in the history of the game
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Gonna start purging my figure case. Are Onix or Slaking ever useful?
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>>32019023
There are very few truly useless Pokemon.
It's a matter of what you have and what you're trying to do.
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>>32019023
onix no
slaking as a filler defender if you have nothing better

but space is so cheap you should keep one of everything anyway
its only 1 gem per figure spot
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do you guys ever actually grind quest mode stages. I'm trying to now and it's awful. It's boring and most of the time you just get coins.
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>>32019056
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is the game running like garbage for anyone else? everything is lagging.
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>>32019124
not exactly like garbage, but end game menus taking a while before I can press buttons
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>>32019124
all menus and things running poorly now
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>>32019056
tedious but worth it
I've got 4 EXs at level 5 now
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>>32019164
damn son, I commend your patience
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>>32019164
Amazing patience, how many turns you win usually?
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>>32011329
I just tap AI until it wins (ocassionally I'll do a manual move which wins while avoiding a fight that the AI never does)
usually its between 4-7 turns? (for each side)
I've got a latias which makes it pretty easy, it only ever dies to bidoof if latias rolls the 4/96 miss
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>>32019245
meant to quote >>32019233

dont know how that happened
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>>32011701
>Poliwhirl has activated its ability!
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>>32019329
it would do it before the spins start in that case
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I don't even play this game anymore, exchanging jewels for AI tickets?
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>>32019367
Is this a question of some sort?
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>>32019373
>exchanging jewels for AI tickets fucking when?
Yes
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>>32019386
ai tickets are a crutch for bad players or for cheating time
I'd happily sell my tickets for gems or even coins
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>hey guys how much did your charizard hit
I thought we were over these trash posts
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>>32019393
You don't understand.
The actual game is boring but I want more boosters.
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>>32019415
if they let you buy tickets with gems it wouldnt be more efficient than buying boosters outright anyway
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Is the game down? I can access the main screen with my figures but can't press anything
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Apologems when
Gym when
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>>32019735
people say its a sync issue
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sideboards WHEN

>keep one figure and one plate on your sideboard
>can swap them in at the start of the match after seeing opponents deck

shouldnt have to have metagross nonstop in case you face reuniclus
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>>32019735
>>32019795
also hear that its an invisible info screen and you can potentially close it if you tap where the close button would be
havent had it in a while to test it out though
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no gym -> dead thread
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Post your decks and league points
2668
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is zekrom any good on its own?
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>>32020740
reshiram is better but yeah still good

fly is a super strong move especially to have on a 2mp fig
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>tfw you stop a reunicuck from reaching master tier

Deo-A actually makes a solid reuniclus check because if you can get confused you suddenly have a 53% dodge wheel so it can just sit on an entry point

I was losing until his tyranitar rolled EQ and knocked out a reuniclus which stopped his respins
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>>32020708
Got owned by a similar team to yours because I thought I could bruteforce the poliwhirl with an x-atk boosted mew
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>>32020831

There is literally no point in unlocking the extra booster slot

>but he's a deo shill

Can't say I'm surprised
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>>32020831
why are you posting an old screenshot
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>>32020850
Didn't play between getting yesterday's rewards and now, so my rank hasn't changed and I was just lazy

There's a live one. Both the gold and purple were shit unfortunately
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>£75 won't even get you five quad packs

Why are gems so horrifically overpriced
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>>32020919
>almost nothing changed
?? are you stuck in timeloop ??
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>>32020940
Keeps kids from spending too much money while still profiting from the mobile game big spenders.
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>>32020945
Yes, I'm trying to get to the steins;gahe worldline where Reuniclus was never added to the game

Nigga I said I didn't play anymore after yesterday's rewards. What did you expect to change?
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Am I using my best EXs? Are there any I'm not using that I should be using?
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>>32020957
why arent you using both a deoxys?
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>>32021006

too unreliable and zapdos makes a good defender

I intend to fuse both deo-a anyway so I can have one with 131 (which out damages other deo and overdrive boosted reshi/zekrom)
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>>32021022
i think they are reliable enought but fusing them for the 131 damge is a good option too
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>>32019414
mine has been spinning for three days help
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>>32021092
Isn't this technically possible?
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Why do 2800+ run scoop up and max revive but nobody below this rank does?
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>>32021092
If your deoxis spins for more than 3 hours please seek medical attention

>>32021228
what build was he running?
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>>32021279
It's RIZARDON not Deoxys
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>>32021308
If your RIZARDON is BURASTING for more than 3 hours please seek medical attention or go to the closest Jobninja.
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>when you style on a triple reuniclus jap 200 LP higher

reminder that reuniclus players are bad and are vulnerable to being outskilled
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he tried
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>>32021632

IT'S HAPPENED AGAIN

REUNICLUS PLAYERS ABSOLUTELY BTFO
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>>32021092

>opponent already spun dodge/purple
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if the jap rumours of 4MP evolved Pokemon are true how does this change the meta?
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>it's another "play really well and nearly win but opponent gets lucky and wins after a few favourable spins" episode

AHHHHHHHHHH
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what should I level up on zekrom?
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>>32021790

the attack that removes things from play, so you can chance on removing zekrom in a lucky mirror
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>>32021228
I'm in the early 2000 rank. It's my best friend
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>>32021774
OwO what???
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>started playing the game a week ago
>only have trash units, best and only EX unit is a venusaur which has 1 movement
>constantly forced against opponents that have good teams and EX units
>I somehow end up winning most matches
>this makes matchups worse and worse as time goes on
how do I fix this? I don't want to play every game assuming it will be an auto-loss unless the opponent is retarded. I'm almost 1700.
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>>32022072

Buy Shuppet

Proceed to reach 2300 with no effort at all
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>>32022081
I only have 150 material atm
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>>32022072
You don't. That's the nature of these sort of games, you languish if you weren't there at the start or get really unlucky with your boosters (unless you're a whale who wants to throw money at the game until you're vaguely caught up, except even then, the rotating draws from boosters limits that somewhat).

That's not to say you can't do anything with a weak team. For giggles, I threw together an all-ground team with only one rare, the rest commons or uncommons, and have won eight of my nineteen matches with it (2200s - 1800s brackets). Luck with attacks and better positioning can trump over a better team, you just need considerably more than if you had a strong team, due to not having as many win states during fights and having fewer options for positioning.

Basically, you just need to get used to being disadvantaged. You either give up, or just keep playing anyway, doing your dailies and saving up, hoping for luck to swing your way.
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>>32022072
>>32022215
Also, the game doesn't even look at your team, just your rating. Since you're still fairly low rated, as long as you pay smart, your rating will keep going up regardless of your team, because you're playing fellow newbs and people who are kinda bad at the game.
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>>32021774
That'd be like combining Deoxys-S with A
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You have the p2w deck and yet you play like a conplete fool. And no, it wasn't the AI.
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>my opponent: I have a 60% chance to almost certainly win the game here, 20% chance to waste the turn and 20% chance for a mild setback
>my opponent: obviously the risk is too great here, I better position defensively some more
thanks for the opportunity to let me regroup
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>>32022460
I'm not gonna lie, this is definitely me when I'm playing Pokemon Duel.
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>>32022460

everyone has their own mindset about the probabilities of success

>from all sorts of games I've developed a 90-80% is STILL GUARANTEED, from there to 60% it's STILL GOOD, somehow 50% is still 50%, 30% is a good chance, but under is probably gonna miss, and oddly 40-45% I don't like it for some reason and consider it's gonna fail, which seems contradictory but that's how it's been formed in my head through the years
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>>32022460
Meanwhile I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum, aka a rusher shitter who will even rely on a 4% miss from the opponent.
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>>32022567
Oh, so you're the motherfucker who keeps throwing his greninja against my Yveltal and see if you can kill it.
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>>32019945
they would probably make you pay for this, and not with gems, but with real money the same way you have to pay for the 4th timed box slot. It also expires after a month. it probably wouldn't be worth it and only whales would be using it
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>>32020940
japanese players will literally spend hundreds on these types of games every month

japanese devs generally don't understand how people outside of japan act, so they just did a 1-1 conversion of gem prices and hoped for the best. They probably don't understand that western players aren't like japanese ones. People will still buy gems because we have autistic whales but it will be nothing like the existing japanese players
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>>32021774
it means half the playerbase of this dead game leaves so the meta becomes even more toxic and stale than it already has when all that's left is whales dumping $300 a month into it
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don't you hate when a respinner just doesn't attack at all?

>game stalls as my opponent's Reuniclus and Deoxys-A are sealed by my metagross
>1:30 left on my clock

"this is gone long enough"

>start pushing forward with Metagross

>it's fucking working, hyperbeams anything that stands on it's path
>check my plates
>use hurdle jump
>realize at that moment i can only move my meta to the entry point of place it where the goalie can come out and surround it, my greninja is out of position since it had to be on the entry point by now, so the goalie would go back to it's place before i can jump in
>can't cancel so put meta on the entry and start moving greninja back and around
>finally move it to the other side while the opponent approaches my goal with deo-A
>a few more moves to defend and my greninja is finally next to the goalie, but meta is 1 MP so it's the frog's turn to win the day
>shuriken the ralts goalie (I used power battle to fight it out but he landed imprison twice against a single shuriken

"i did it!"

>greninja fails to doge a hyper beam from a fresh reuniclus
>just try to push my Metagross from the other side step by step
>Deo-A is now in my entry point and ready to attack my goalie like i'm doing his
>Metagross attacks goalie reuni, Hyper beams clash and mine obviously wins, just one more step and i win
>the first reuni that just got back in the game attacks from the right
>brain link 50 vs fucking 30 bullet punch ruins my moment of glory

and then he just fucked my goalie and what i still had with respins, god damn
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I'm quitting this game
when you drop from 2685 to 2339 because of extreme levels of bad luck then you'll realize how futile this game is.

No matter what you do, all your opponent needs to win is 3 good spins
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>>32022964
just surround
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>be me, not too intelligent for pokemon duel
>take a while to decide on moves, usually a minute behind the opponent
>decide to play faster and not deliberate on moves
>still 20~ seconds behind my opp

Lads, what do? Is it me, or my internet? Even just moving a Pokemon on the first turn usually takes 5 seconds.

I like duel, but it's getting annoying to have the timer against me every game. Recently won a game via timer win on 1 second left. My opp had somehow eclipsed me in time left even though my moves during midgame were basically just methodical goal blocking or moving up to try to break through his goalie. Had to use fucking Carlo to get my time back and barely won by the skin of my teeth.
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>>32023886
first turn always takes about 3 seconds, not sure why.
i trace out the opponents potential paths during their turns, then slam my figures as fast as possible accordingly.
that being said, dont be dumb about it, if they made an unexpected move youre sure to make one too.
get used to patterns, i can generally say "theyre going to do this" then they do
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>>32022887
Your probably gonna be pissed but you can cancel plates. Just close and reopen the game. Just make sure you don't take too long and get loss from disconnection
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Who here is this guy? Sorry cuz. Luck was not on your side. Never seen someone roll so many misses. It was sad really.
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>>32024888
did you finish tutorial mode from that win?
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>>32024888
this guy Karp rushed
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>>32024888
I never heard of this guy before. lol
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>>32024899
But I already have hurdle jump :^)

>>32024998
Karp rush? Nah man I move Deoxys-S to one of their entries then switch, almost guaranteeing ownership of it for the rest of the match.
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>>32025044
does satire just go completely over your head
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>>32025062
No, but apparently sarcasm does. You should learn the difference.
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>>32025312
is karp rush not satire?
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>>32025339
No. How the hell is it satire?

"the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues."

Karp rushing is a strategy. It's not about making anyone look stupid... at least not to me?
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>>32025431
the point is that its NOT a legitimate strategy
so people exaggerate its frequency and effectiveness to make fun of the guy that suggested it and defended however many days back
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How is my team line up?

I just have Articuno thrown in because I'm not sure what else I could put in. I know I need a gold unit and have both Mew and Greninja, but those two have been really unreliable for me so far.
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>>32025462
I don't read old posts so I'm not entirely sure what your referring to, but how it is not a legitimate strategy? As long as they don't have a "Whirlwind" mon, you can push it forward, maybe hurdle jump, or like how I do, rush with Deoxys-S then switch. Regardless of that, it is a strategy. It might not be a good one in your opinion, but that doesn't make it a strategy. A non-strategy would be hoping to win by forfeiting immediately or waiting for your timer to run out.
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>>32025576
its a non-viable strategy which is exaggerated in a satirical manner to poke fun at how bad it is
i'm not going to bother explaining why it is bad to a low ranked player
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>>32025606
Dude I'm at 2200, and I haven't paid a cent for this game. I was higher but had some real shit luck when trying to do a "win 3 league matches in a row" mission. that's lower ranked to you, you must be a whale. Might not be viable for you with your $300 team but it works just fine for me.
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>>32025668
nobody here has paid anything except for two guys who bought that fourth booster slot package

pre 2300 is tutorial mode
everyone that didnt start in the last two weeks is past 2300
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>>32025534
who are you matching mew up with? cockblock the other teams heavy purples and hard hitters. don't attack with it.
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Why don't you have a jelly team?
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>>32025716
Because I've yet to see that team beat me anymore. There's no point to switching to the one overused team I can actually beat with my own, same with the Deoxys.
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>>32025707
My Mew just really hates to land on Gold when attacked by Deoxys-A and Yveltal.
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>>32025716
>jellies:
annoying level:
9/10

strength level:
8/10

>deoxys swapping:
annoying level:
10/10

strength level:
9.5/10
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>down 200 rank because of one bad spin at the literal last second when I made every correct move and was ahead by over a minute on time every single game
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A much needed rebalance:
Deoxys-A loses the ability
Deoxys gains Reflective Laser, it can't be used more than once every two turns

y/n?
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>>32025810
why did you format this post so horribly?
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reminder that these sprites are in game
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>>32025870
rhyperior is probably going to be 1mp. fuck
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first time i ever beat a reinculus cheating scum

and then with the keys box i immediatly pulled a giratina after the duel. this must be what being god feels like
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>>32025870
>no sick feathers all over noctowls cloud

why didn't they model the figures who had tfg counterparts after the actual tfg poses. i mean i get that they have identical movesets but the poses were so much more dynamic :(
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>>32026071
Because Noctowl isn't an EX, obviously
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>>32026126
this isn't a good excuse :/

these are figures. they are in fixed poses. why not make the rares and commons interesting as well? its not like they have to animate anything to do it

all im saying is they should have put more love into this game
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>>32026181
i mean just look at these dynamic ass poses for even shitty commons. so much better than the shit we have now
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>>32026197
the poses are cool but a lot of the 'water' just looks like cum
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>>32013084
being new to the game and thinking cacnea was good enough to clv spam because "DUDE I ROLLED A 200 ATTACK POWER ONCE, CACNEA IS UNSTOPPABLE"
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>>32025870
>Liepard Rare
interesting
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rip Sando
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>>32026221
Dude...see a doctor
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>>32026356
whats replacing it?
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>>32018099
zapdos is still pretty good. soar and 100 gold is not to be fucked with till this day.in 2000-2400

(unless of course you are playing 3 reinculus)
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>>32026405
I havent got a clue what it actually means
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>>32018227
bad idea
>>32018333
even worse idea. fuck mega evolutions. they could be adding actual new pokemon. we don't need crap design mega's when shit like celebi, muk, scizor and the 800 other pokemon who are still missing from this game can get original movesets. the moment stupid ass shoehorned digimon tier mega evolutions come to this game is the moment i stop playing
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>>32019023
don't purge. a random rock gym could be coming up making figures u thought were bad ridiculous. never purge. try to collect 1 of each pokemon
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>>32026461

>I also am hoarding whatever I think could be important with 1mp more

the Ghost gym is gonna be plagued with Banettes isn't it?
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>>32026485
and Giratina. Maybe Haunter too depending on if it's Ghost that gets the MP buff. That would probably be a good time to introduce Gengar so having a Haunter to evolve into it might be good.
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>>32026497
giratina is still bad whether it gets 2mp or +20 damage
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>>32026503
this.

i was reading the giratina i just pulled's info and realized that even if it's mp was 2 it would still be super mediocre. not worth using in a ghost or dragon gym
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is Hydreigon worth using at all? I have four and was wondering I should fuse three of them to get 1 CLv
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>>32027320
that has draco meteor right? how many stars?
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>>32027320
Yes.
Zweilous is good. Roar can win games. Don't forget displacing your opponent lets you evolve. It also counts itself for its ability.
Deino is the deck's weak point. You need to run at least one if you want to stay on curve, but it's an MP2 that only hits for 40, which forces you to run X Attack/Desperate.
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>>32027416
just one
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>3 swap spot victories in a row

lol ill take it
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>>32028162
and now 5
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You should cool down, dude.
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>>32028382
I hope you spent the rest of match just running around aimlessly.
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>>32028443
It was an instant wait win, but honestly If I was that guy, I would be very mad, his last 3 attacks landed in my articuno icre charge or glaceon freeze.
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>Special Challenge: get 3-win streak

Fuck you. Now I have to go down two leagues just to have a shot at gems.
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>>32028564
>not being able to get 3 wins in a row
>needing to drop back to tutorial mode to get 3 wins in a row

come on dude

enjoy your ingots
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how about trying a deck together ??
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>>32028890
>time trenches
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>tfw you absolute shit on a 300+ jap with overwhelming force

Who /no mercy/ here
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>>32028162
I have two Shupperinos and a Gastly. What's a good mon that's not S-Deoxys to do this Swap Spot meme?
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>>32029696
If you aren't doing Deo S it's pointless desu
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>>32029705
Fuck.
>>
I hate this fucking game. Shitty, luck, shitty spins, shitty pulls, shitty opponents.
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>>32029749
I just want an event, man. Or some type of new content. Where the fuck is this gym at?
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>>32029749
It's designed that way to make you waste money on the better figures and the cards you need to use them. You'd figure hating a game would make you drop it, but it's also designed to make you come back every time for dem boosters and missions and gems and general goodies.
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>>32029705

So, you march deoxys-s 4 spaces down the middle, pray the opponent is stupid and doesn't attack it, then swap spot with shuppet/gastly and walk onto the goal?
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>>32029857

this is probably incredibly effective when they send Mew out first turn, they always prefer to run it back and block the path than risk a dodge or miss on Deo-s, i think I'm gonna try it, since more than often they'll ignore the Deo and prefer to push forward since it's already blocked
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I don't understand the swap spot meme. According to the plate text, doesn't it just switch the figure you pick with the one next to it? How does the meme work? I must know.
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>>32030563
Switches any two of your figures on the field, but those not end the turn.
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>>32030588

So the memery is

Turn 1: shuppet on the board
Turn 2: deoxys-s rush
Turn 3: swap spot and walk shuppet into goal

?
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>>32030605
Yep
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oh wait, i just remembered a guy who forfeit the game as soon as i killed his Deoxy-S, he still had shuppet in the bench though, i just couldn't understand why he forfeited so fast, i guess I ruined one of his first attempts at it or something
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Rate deck, below are my EXs and I have a bunch of misc rares

2481
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>the absolute state of deoxys shitters

Reshiram/Zekrom/Metagross is a pretty busted combo lads. Get on board before the reuniclus/deoxys retards discover the real op
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>>32030764

>dude just play with these three specific ex figures XD

fuck off whale
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>>32030764

what do they have to do with this scenario? he clearly fucked up his Speed movement and let your frog go free on the left
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>>32030764

>proud of beating a retard
>>
Got Delphox from a Rainbow Box just now? Is it as useless as I think it is?
>>
Reminder to not make a new thread until page 10
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>>32030770
>not earning enough ranking booster tickets to get the newest figures each month

Apply yourself senpai

>>32030794
>>32030804
>not being proud of beating retards

These are the wins that make playing shitty games like this worth it.
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>>32030881

it can be good

if you max hyperspace hole you can warp things into a pincer
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>>32030881
it used to be decent but in the age of zapdos it's just not powerful enough for a 2mp figure so you probably have better mons you could use
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WHERE IS THE FUCKING GYM

I NEED TO GRIND BOOSTERS NOWW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>32030939
Fug, I'll never get a decent EX mon again. The last three EXes I got were dupes of Lucario and Charizard and then a new Zekrom.
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>tfw cucking a full deo deck

I've discovered the secret to beating cosmofags, it's just not to attack and rely on agessive positioning instead
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>>32030964
Motherfucker, those were good EX, the last 3 i got were 2 giratinas and 1 venusaur
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>>32030955
Get it 4 yourself.
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>>32031083

giratinas will be good in the dragon gym desu
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Can't break 2600. Playing New, Ho-oh, Zapdos, Delphox, Palliative, and Leafeon. My EXs are shitty, and so many rares that aren't helpful outside of gyms. Wat do? Keep grinding/praying for better EXs? Load my deck with 3MPs or Shuppet-shill? Kill myself?
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>>32031183
Mew*
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>>32031183
Palkia*
fucking phone
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>>32031083
I don't really think Zekrom is good unless I have it's white butt buddy to eliminate stuff with.

And Charizard and Lucario are good, but I already had those two for a while now and need something new like a Zapdos or something to really expand my options.
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Why would anyone pick a sleep inducing figure over a freeze inducing one?
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>>32031208

if this refers to the leafeon v glaceon meme, leafeon has higher blue+purple and an ability
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>>32031183

palkia is ass

run this:
>ho-oh, mew, zapdos, leafeon, umbreon, whimsicott

whimsicott and leafeon are really good together because leafeon can move through it and set up some sick strong breeze plays
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>>32031286
>>32031286
>>32031286
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>>32031208
this >>32031248 as well as the fact that sometimes it's better to force the opponent to keep unusable figures on the field. For example, they have a figure on one of your entry points but no other figures nearby. You put it to sleep and suddenly they only have three usable figures to reach your goal with.

The only time freeze is better than sleep is when you're trying to take out their goal keeper. Otherwise imo it's better to just put things to sleep and leave them there.
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>>32031309
What makes sleep better than freeze when there are figures on your entry point? They both let you move through them, but freeze also freezes their wheel. Freeze is just a better status condition period.
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