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Did GF redeem itself with SuMo?

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Did GF redeem itself with SuMo?
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>>32006386
they were close but ultimately no
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A little.
It's certainly better than X & Y, but that wasn't hard to do. Hopefully they'll continue improving, though.
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SM is better than ORAS, at least. We'll see.
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>>32006398
why not?
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>>32006386
>SuMo
make i hate mars bars
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>>32006386
Tsareena ruined the games for me
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The only way it was better was PvE balance was improved compared to ORAS and XY

Otherwise it was even worse than Gen VI
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So many advances but so many mistakes. Better story, better model animation, refined mega mechanics, but over the top z moves ruined it for me. They abandoned mega evolution which could have been cool if it wasn't reserved for the popular and powerful. Z crystals were a poor attempt to give all Pokémon an edge, because it still works even better on the best (see Flyingnium on Landorus). New Pokémon were actually a big plus in terms of design, and I didn't mind the slowness of the gen because it forced players to try different strategies when winning, unfortunately once the bank was updated the new slow mons faded into the meta oblivion of UU/RU and no attempt was made to make or introduce a way to give slow Pokémon more of an advantage. I'm talking about a lack of auto-trick room abilities. I just want more regional alternate forms and more megas, I could care less about z crystals or legendary forms (Necrozma's fabled dragon form).
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It's better than XY but it's still pretty eh.
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>>32006411
i liked what they did with trials and some of the story, as well as the new pokemon which were pretty nice
but the level design is terrible, the region is too small, the story is terribly executed after the 2nd island, the game has bad performance which the graphics don't justify, more features are removed again and the post-game feels more dead than x and y
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>>32006468
>Better story
>lillie's character development is cutting her hair
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>>32006481
>the story is terribly executed after the 2nd island
why? i understand the other points but not that. it's better than BW story wise
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>>32006490
>story about a girl escaping from an overbearing mother with the help of you (the hero) leading to her growing out of her mother's nest to take on her own journey
>involving neurotoxins from otherdimensional beasts
>the most realistic gang leader so far
>"but the story is shit" when BW didn't make any sense and the others didn't have one

ok
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>>32006386

Gamefreak soiled itself with SM.
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>>32006527
no story > shit story

a minute of VHS static like most of the series is preferable to two hours of a completely unamusing trash movie like Gen V and SM
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>>32006527
Guzma was really fucking disappointing and bland desu
Lillie and Gladion were pretty good
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>>32006386
ultra space was literally a fucking room
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>>32006494

BW's story is better because it fuses with the League progression and has a strong conclusion. Even if you don't like N it's still entertaining.

The problem with SM is that its story blows its load after island 3. Gladion and Hau disappear and you're left with Lillie for the rest of the immediate plot. The island trials basically get thrown to the wayside, the Dragon Trial being an obvious example. The conclusion to the plot involves you fighting octopus-mom and then you're off to the League.
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>>32006568
>gladion

tfw you hated edgy characters in all games but found gladion surprisingly well made because I grew mature enough to not get angry at edgy characters to prove I'm more grown up agan, but I saw him as a decently written chuuni teenager that he is
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>>32006527
That plot would be cool if we had anything to do with it.
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>>32006630
why
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>>32006386

Not really no. It's a tiptoe in the right direction. They need to put up a lot more effort to reedeem themselves in my eyes.
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>>32006652
Because why do I exist in that story. I do nothing but fight the people I'm told to fight. Everything is decided for me as I stand still listening to monologues and escort a Loli around.
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>>32006709
>why can't I self insert
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>>32006709
You are a guy from kanto and you hear about trials and you travel around in order to beat them, while you do that you grow attached to a loli and she admires you for your adventure and pokemon training skills and thinks you are a Pretty Cool Guy for doing all that and decides she wants to do it too herself at the end

in the end you are the catalyst for every person's character development in the story

happy?
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>>32006494
>it's better than BW story wise
Not a hard to achieve feat.
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>>32006740
SM protagonist = venom snake

you know what at least venom snake shows more than one fucking emotion.
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>>32006762
no protagonist in pokemon has ever shown any emotion or anything at all really
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>>32006762
What did you want to see then? Have the MC cry and be angry unnecessarily? Oh, we see Lusamine. Better get an angry face on. Is that what you wanted?

During cutscenes, the MC showed enough emotions without coming off as too much. Outside of cutscenes, the protagonist didn't change facial expressions much, but still showed a lot of emotions, with their actions. There were also a lot of little movements in simple conversations that added to it. That's a lot more than literally everything that came before.
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>>32006386
Almost, but then they rushed it so that it would be out in time for the 20th anniversary. If they had finished it, it could have been great.
But as of now, every Pokemon game on the 3DS has been shit, worst of the series.
I hope the Kanto sequels can redeem the console.
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>>32006881
All I ask is that he's not smiling the entire fucking game. At least give a neutral face during events that the protagonist shouldn't be smiling during.
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>>32006386
>SuMo
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>>32006881
people dont fucking blankly stare at crazy bitches. i dont give a shit how much body cues are used
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>>32007129
Personal preference, I guess. I hated the neutral look on DQ9's protagonist, so I'm glad it's still a smile.
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>>32006386
Witch one the games, or the anime,

Because the games were great, I've seen most of the people who rateted it gave it a high score, nothing below 7/10.

But as for the anime, it's still a little too early to see how it's doing, as of right now it's doing decent. But I feel like episode 21 is a redflag. Depending on what rout it takes.
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>>32007164
I would, because it would be impossible for me to take them seriously.
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